inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #101 of 174: Are We Really? (really) Fri 26 Jan 01 10:47
    
...time zones be damned!

I am interested in a virtual webcast participatory art performance. I
think it would work with a few simple ground rules.
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #102 of 174: Elisa Rose (gunafa) Fri 26 Jan 01 15:48
    
is it over already?!
wonder where all are
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #103 of 174: Bob 'rab' Bickford (rab) Fri 26 Jan 01 17:05
    

  Some of us just got here!
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #104 of 174: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 26 Jan 01 19:38
    

Hey, it's only over if you want it to be!  Let me say thanks for such a
great time, but you are welcome to keep talking as long as you like...
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #105 of 174: David Hudson (davidhudson) Sun 28 Jan 01 07:26
    
Let's definitely come back and chat during webcasts for one thing; for
another, to point to things we know we all might be interested in such
as:

In a Virtual Sculpture Park, the Art Talks Back
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/28/technology/28UNGE.html?pagewanted=all

Gary, this is such a fine line, I simply wanted to repeat it, though I
don't have anything to add:

"What shall we all do there, in the virtual room ?"

Elisa, just to clarify, I completely agree with you on the importance
of public funding for the arts. As you say, Amsterdam is an excellent
example of a city that has struck an enviable balance between govt,
business and culture. All I really wanted to say is that it might be
better for some over here in Europe to think a bit more creatively than
to automatically assume public funding is the only way.

Anyway, I for one will be checking in, and I look forward to meeting
you here -- once again, *thanks* Station Rose!
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #106 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 28 Jan 01 18:37
    
Yes, you were great!

We hereby dedicate this topic to art parties forthcoming....
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #107 of 174: Elisa Rose (gunafa) Wed 31 Jan 01 14:43
    
thank you, Jon!
;-)
I needed some time to get used to the end of the 2 weeks.I enjoyed
them a lot. but now I am back, and say hiagain, also to (rab)!!

David, I liked the article in NYtimes a lot, the one you linked above.
there are many good points in. basically I think, that the net came
first, and now or soon virtual reality will come in - to the net, too.
so when the two are together, cyberspace and VR could become  a strong
couple. the next step for me are goggles anyway, which are on the
market now. I want a pair to hear and listen to audiovisual
compositions Gary and me have recorded, 2 hours later or the next day.
It could be a great way to dive into the art without disturbance from
outside. This is important INMH. very often it is difficult to
concentrate when looking to a small screen only. We have a projector in
the studio, but this is situated in the center of it, opposite our
cockpits. As it is not in the relax section, near the sofas, goggles
would be perfect for that. after having done the work and sort of
consume it.
And when realvideo gets fullscreen, together with them one could
really enjoy webcast-sessions. on the other hand this experience is
excluding others, i know.
we are working on the schedule for the next webcast session, let you
know.
btw, we shall go to berlin next week, which is a chance to meet
personally!
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #108 of 174: David Hudson (davidhudson) Thu 1 Feb 01 14:57
    
We'll definitely do that and drop a note here when we do.

More as it happens.
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #109 of 174: Elisa Rose (gunafa) Fri 2 Feb 01 09:59
    
yeah, good idea, when we meet we could post together from there. 
we shall be in berlin 6-9.feb


and -  here it is - the new webcast annoucment:

NetSTReam - Webcast 131 with topic "24/7" SUN/4.2.01, 9pm CET
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live @home  <http://www.stationrose.com>
topic: "24/7"   
content: always busy - always online versus ?
extra: no more breaks? what about doing NOTHING? 
all versus nothing, always versus never, online versus offline- 
(E.R short slam)

9pm CET is l2 noon in SF, btw.

looking forward to connect the webcast to the conf again.
;-)
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #110 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 2 Feb 01 10:01
    
That's great!
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #111 of 174: Station Rose (gunafa) Sun 4 Feb 01 10:44
    
we shall start the webcast in 1h 15min from now
hope to see you!
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #112 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:25
    
Just got to the webcast... first thing I saw was (presumably
Elisa's) eyeball staring at me!
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #113 of 174: Gary Danner (danner) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:29
    
Hi Jon !
Welcome to our digital Sunday Soiree !
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #114 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:30
    
I try to be here 24/7!    *8-)
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #115 of 174: Gary Danner (danner) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:33
    
Do you think that´s manageable ?
ER and me found out it´s not.
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #116 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:35
    
Heh... I agree, it's not really manageable. But then neither am I!

I've worked jobs where that was expected...
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #117 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:36
    
You can do 24 or you can do 7, but 24/7 is reserved for the bots!
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #118 of 174: Gary Danner (danner) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:39
    
We found out it´s better for your "work" when you take one day
completely off - when you do not even switch on the computer. And are
very •lazy• It pays - I get more focussed again after that.

bots - you mean robots ?
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #119 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:42
    
Yeah, bots is the abbreviated form, usually referring more to software
agents than mechanical men! -- I don't get much time off, myself, I always
have too much stuff backed up...
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #120 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:45
    
Besides, how will we save the world if we rest?!?

No, no....

   How will we MAKE the world if we rest!?!?
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #121 of 174: Elisa Rose (gunafa) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:46
    
yeah, us, too.
but we found out 1 day off is great.we try to stick to it. I just
heard of someone who was 1 YEAR off.this is another extreme.
could you iumagine that, one year off?
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #122 of 174: Elisa Rose (gunafa) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:47
    
we MAKE the world beautiful. and isnt it important that cyberspace
stays beautful?
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #123 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:48
    
I know some very rich people who never work... I'm amazed at how they use
their time, or I should say, how little use they make of the time that
they have.

So this question of time also becomes a question of money... if you were
so rich that work was not a necessity, how would you use your time? Would
you give it to yourself, or to the world?
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #124 of 174: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:49
    
Elisa slipped - by all means, yes... there is too little beauty,
especially in cyberspace.
  
inkwell.vue.101 : Gary Danner and Elisa Rose - Station Rose
permalink #125 of 174: Elisa Rose (gunafa) Sun 4 Feb 01 12:55
    
I think there is beauty in cyberspace. but beauty requires
concentration. so too often many peoplejust say that it is so bad that
only commerce is in the net, but this is not right. art is in it. and
it is so much ibn the beginning.
imagine how powerful webacsting is already now, and how much it still
can develop!

and concerning what would we do if we would have already enough money-
good question. it is a new question we ask ourselves, so an answer is
not here now.Would
       we give it to ourself, or to the world? is it really possible
to seperate that?? when we make a new composition it is always for the
world!!


and you? 
  

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