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permalink #426 of 2008: Emily Whetstone Hey (jizou-sama) Sat 17 Mar 01 00:41
permalink #426 of 2008: Emily Whetstone Hey (jizou-sama) Sat 17 Mar 01 00:41
I like the idea of an epic battle with face hair.... those creations are great! I still remember the phrase "a darkling sky" from something I read in Junior High because I liked the sound of it so much.... and also the meaning is pretty plain in context. I say go for it. And discomfiture (not to mention discombobulation) is a fine word as well. You don't catch people telling artists what colors to use, and authors ought to have the same freedom. Shakespeare even made up a whole lot of words, and the language would be significantly poorer without them. Maybe I should be working on getting Sandman translations for my Junior High school kids here. Mimi, what do you think the chances are of a Japanese school allowing something like that into the library? Though the Japanese DO seem to have a much better tolerance for moral ambiguity and dark stories for children...
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permalink #427 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 17 Mar 01 03:16
permalink #427 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 17 Mar 01 03:16
Stalker-boy - Crossed fingers for attempt #... 11? Len - Scott Connor (from afn-g) is notorious for painful puns. UCB=University of California, Berkeley. Angelina - Just so long as the snakes aren't orange - you might upset certain folks of ignorant nature who *think* they know something. ;) Dan - Tattoos are fun ('cept for the itchy part)... just so long as you remember they're *permanent*. And I wouldn't start with a big piece unless you're certain of your pain tolerance. It would suck to get 1/4 way through and then decide you couldn't take it any more... or just pass out. I nearly lost consciousness on my wings. Ouch. And I dare you to bring said group of friends to SLZ Rasps (weekdays, when I'm there) and see how many employees join you in the "Spartacus" thing. I'll be the one shouting "I'm Sparkatus!" :) Jen B - the problem with the water spat is that it might upset the people dining around you. If you had the big argument and then, sopping wet, made up and hugged and brought on the laughter, tears and stuff, you'd be able to have fun making people nervous, but not ruin their evening entirely. BTW, cute story. Still marvel at the fact that the drummer (he being the beardless guy) is named Beard. Neil - bears aside, I could *never* take a Grizzly Adams lookalike seriously. re: lookalikes being the actual peeps - The day I (sort of) met my friend Kurt, he was wearing a skirt and rollerskates at the club. Stifling my "nice skates" comment, it dawned on me that he looked familiar. Thankfully my boyfriend at the time didn't let me get a word in edgewise. My comment *would* have been "Hey, anyone ever tell you that you look like that guy from Information Society? I used to have a huge pathetic crush on him 10 years ago...<etc.>". After a minute of standing around and not being able to say a thing, I walked off. Later on, the boyfriend was talking about some remix that Kurt did. "Kurt who", I asked nervously. "Kurt... that guy I was talking to at the bar. You know. From Information Society", and I don't think I heard anything else after that. I was too busy being red in a corner. I've since told Kurt about the incident. He was amused. -squeaks, who is now turning red again
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permalink #428 of 2008: "D'OH!", sayeth (miss-mousey) Sat 17 Mar 01 03:20
permalink #428 of 2008: "D'OH!", sayeth (miss-mousey) Sat 17 Mar 01 03:20
So what I *meant* to actually post was this: Attention Bay Area Fans Of <Neil> Gaiman (ba-FOGs for short) Got an email from Cody's Books (Telegraph Ave, Berkeley). Mark your calendars for June 27, 7:30PM. Neil will be there promoting AG. Oh, and if there are any Prachett fans in the house, he'll be at Cody's on May 11. squeaks, who likes having good connections who have good connections
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permalink #429 of 2008: Len (theboojum) Sat 17 Mar 01 06:00
permalink #429 of 2008: Len (theboojum) Sat 17 Mar 01 06:00
Jen-- Outstanding ballad and folktale! As a person with a beard, I appreciate the plight of the common hairy man being elevated to mythic terms. Neil-- I am an art idiot; I will do a quick "use-the-net-to-acquaint-yourself-with-an-artist-you'd-never-heard-of" ;, (as I did with GK Chesterton years ago) and then start looking for the bio. Michelle-- got it. Btw, Bay Area hipsters, do any of you know a Christina Gaxiola? As far as I know, she's in the goth-y scene. Re: Tattoos-- for years the only tattoo that I thought I could stand behind for the forseeable future would be one of Stephen Sondheim, but I thought that would be kind of creepy, so no tattoo. Besides, my pain threshold's pretty low.
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permalink #430 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Sat 17 Mar 01 06:01
permalink #430 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Sat 17 Mar 01 06:01
Madman, Angelina, Emily, Michelle, Len - Thanks. :-) Michelle - The water thing... Had I talked roommate into doing it and we had gone to the restaurant I wouldn't actually have done it. I'm just not that interesting. And, like you said, it could upset other customers. Although, I am still tempted by one of my friend's ideas of having a friend propose to you in public and then telling them 'no'. Or maybe on one of those silly talk shows. Anyway... So you're getting Neil _and_ Terry Pratchett huh? I'm most likely getting neither. Should move to a coast. Jen. "Yeah, and Grizzly Adams had a beard." "Grizzly Adams _did_ have a beard." Happy Gilmore
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permalink #431 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:05
permalink #431 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:05
Len -- Barry Humphries, although a premier watercolour artist, and a dadaist and situationist in his youth, is best known as the manager of Dame Edna Everage. I think the Lahr bio is called something like Dame Edna Everage and the Rise of Western Civilisation. Jen, you and Luna should both be properly ashamed of yourselves. I suppose that's what I deserve for failing to deliver the duck. I thank you both. Bill -- forgot to say thanks for posting the e-bay information. Madman/Angelina/Michelle -- my only one of those stories was the time Brad Pitt turned up to a friend's birthday party. Emily -- I'd love that idea. I think Interbooks has a Sandman website up in Japanese... Michelle -- I love not shaving. It's just at the exact moment when it stops looking like che guevara and starts looking like a real beard, I look like somebody else. Not me at all. And I can keep it for months, but every time I pass a mirror it's with a sense of surprise and puzzlement. We'll see how many more of the signings leak out before I get the official list. (I think it's 95% finalised. But we're not 100% done. I just noticed that I don't get a day off in ten days, which I'm not sure is wise: I'll be punch drunk by the end...) Jen -- surely between Chicago area, and Lexington/Dayton/Cleveland I get somewhere near you...
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permalink #432 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:20
permalink #432 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:20
Neil-- Oh, ok-- I knew that the name wasn't _entirely_ unfamiliar. Everybody-- and this is really apropos of nothing-- I'm watching a movie that I love, and that people should know about, but somehow it seems that very few people actually _do_ know about it, so I'm spreading the word: The Impostors, with Oliver Platt and Stanley Tucci and a whole bunch of other good people-- it's a sort of homage to classic screwball comedies, about two actors who, eluding the cops, end up stowing away on an elegant cruise ship. It's full of great characters and goofy schtick, and has a very different feel to it than most contemporary comedies. Very funny-- esp. if you've ever done any improv-- and very ignored. Anyway, write the name down somewhere and rent it if you get the chance.
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permalink #433 of 2008: Chris (jonl) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:48
permalink #433 of 2008: Chris (jonl) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:48
Email from Chris: Neil, I was reading your journal on AmericanGods.com and you were naming a few books that you can read now that AG is finished. Just curious of some other books that you have read and enjoyed in the past. Chris
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permalink #434 of 2008: Jouni Koponen (jonl) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:49
permalink #434 of 2008: Jouni Koponen (jonl) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:49
Email from Jouni: About tattoos - I can propably never have one. I mean, bein' who I am, I would have to do the design myself (a professional pride can be a bitch sometimes), and proximately one month after taking it, I would propably just think that I could've designed much better picture now. Michelle - Connections. Please don't talk about connections. MailAndNews seems to be shot to hell (with my account) and I'm havin' very VERY HARD TIME even READING (Google is missing helluvalot of messages) the afng. Damn those puny Google-creatures! Jouni (almost angry)
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permalink #435 of 2008: Scott Conner (jonl) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:50
permalink #435 of 2008: Scott Conner (jonl) Sat 17 Mar 01 07:50
http://www.greenmanpress.com/guestbook/guestbook.html is the direct URL for Charles Vess' message board, for the fellow that was asking about Karen. Charles told me she's doing very well these days but still has some pain that might not be apparent just by looking at her. Charles and I had a very nice time at BosKone a few weeks back, and that's one of things I asked him about on the drive up. He also recently sold the Faerie Market, but alas...not to me. If you've never seen the original, you're definitely missing out. Neil, I saw your post on the Tori concert incident in Blacksburg. Being a resident of said place, sorry I missed out on the whole deal. Looking forward to seeing the tree near here in American Gods. Once I get the photos I took during the visit to Mike Kaluta's place developed, I'll have to post them. I'm both bearded and long-haired, although I have never been mistaken for Alan Moore. Michelle.....pun? Moi? Not me. *whistles innocently* I don't know if you could take me seriously or not, even though I don't think I'm into the Grizzly Adams lookalike range quite yet. Even if Kaluta did say something about a yeti. ; ) And now to catch up on a great many unread messages....
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permalink #436 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 17 Mar 01 08:40
permalink #436 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 17 Mar 01 08:40
Oh well, when do I ever see you at a signing when you're not absolutely punch drunk? But try to hold some days off.
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permalink #437 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 17 Mar 01 11:58
permalink #437 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 17 Mar 01 11:58
Martha -- I rather think it's too late for that. Everyone, more or less, has their day, and we probably can't get me a day off without cancelling a day's worth of signings somewhere. I don't think it occurred to the people putting the signing together that I might need one, I suppose. So expect a Bay area signing punchdrunker than most. Chris -- other books I've read and enjoyed in the past. Ever, you mean? Or having to do with American Gods? Scott -- thanks. I owe Charles a phone call. Wrote an epic poem for Maddy over dinner the last two nights (there's nothing like being on your own nibbling sushi to get you writing bad epic poetry). It's called Crazy Hair, which is what Maddy has been calling me in e-mail. Have already e-mailed it to Jill Thompson asking if she wants to illustrate it... And as a final note: I spoke to my wife yesterday. "I read Maddy her Mary Poppins story last night," she said. "It was awful, so long, and so dull..." And I knew immediately what had happened. "You read her Bad Tuesday, didn't you?" "Yes," she said. "The one with the different families around the world?" "No," she said, "Mine was a really stupid one about a dolphin and a bear..." "Ah," I said. "There's a version of it which isn't boring in the hardback I left on her shelf." My wife hated the (revised) version of the story enough that she'd planned to stop reading Mary Poppins. And you know, I think that brought it into focus. The real crime is not offending people; it's boring them. And on that note I shall go back to proofreading.
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permalink #438 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Sat 17 Mar 01 12:08
permalink #438 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Sat 17 Mar 01 12:08
Neil - Luna and I have conferred and we both agree that we do not feel one bit of shame. We have decided to save up our money to buy consciences. Or some cars. And signings - ::looks at names of cities:: woohoo! If I wanted to I could make it to three of em. This makes my day. :-) Tattoos - I hate even semi-permanent bodily things and I'm a wuss, so I shall probably never get one. Possibly I'll get one if I ever get married as I don't wear jewelry. Len - I was trying to think of a movie to watch later. I'll see if the place on the corner has it. Jen, who really needs some sugar.
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permalink #439 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 17 Mar 01 12:15
permalink #439 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 17 Mar 01 12:15
Len - I know a few Christine's, and possibly a couple of Christina's in the local 'scene'. And last names are a joke around here. Half the time I don't know real *first* names (although I do know a guy who was *born* with the name Raven, which annoys him greatly because everyone thinks he's made it up). If you've got better descriptors, or names of people she knows, it'd be all helpful and stuff. Neil - But did you embarrass yourself assuming he wasn't Brad Pitt? :) And I *totally* hear you on the passing mirrors and wondering who it is staring back thing. By the time I finally figure out it's *me*, I usually get bored and have to go cut my hair or dye it neon pink or something. And please don't overwork yourself into oblivion. It's just not good for you. A day or two of sleep dep is funny. A week of it is just kind of painful. Don't suppose you could add a couple of days to the tour here and there to allow for necessary rest? Scott (a.k.a. 'afn-g Master of PUNishment') - Hey, if I'd have had the money, Faerie Market would have been mine years ago, along with the cover for issue 3. I'm still trying to figure out how the colors for the FM turned up so washed out looking on the posters. The original is so much more vibrant. any way, happy for Charles and Karen and 'lucky bastard' to whomever bought the Market. Jouni - You're not alone on the Google issues. I'm sure between the lot of stuck thingies, *some*one will find a solution soon. Fear not. And when do we get to see Tree in harem pants? squeaks, who will learn to be short-winded someday, but not yet.
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permalink #440 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek, tuckered out. (whispered) Sat 17 Mar 01 13:41
permalink #440 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek, tuckered out. (whispered) Sat 17 Mar 01 13:41
This is off somewhat topic, but seeing as the WELLer's are thoroughly peppered across the globe, I thought I'd look for reccomendations here. In about a week, I'm off on the quintessential american road trip; we'll be driving from Minnesota to Seattle, which will take us through North Dakota, Montana, Idaho and Washington. So we've got a point a and b, but it'd be great to have some other letters represented. Anyone have any suggestions of charming littile tourist traps or odd historical landmarks worth pulling over for between here and there?
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permalink #441 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sat 17 Mar 01 17:43
permalink #441 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sat 17 Mar 01 17:43
Michelle-- She may still call herself Gax, as she did in college. Having not seen her in person in over 10 years, I'm honestly not sure what she looks like anymore; she writes f/sf; she was involved in a Vampire the Masquerade larp thing out there, she says that her totem animal is the coyote and she's into comix-- that's pretty much all I can say for sure at this point. Jen-- it's worth it-- I watched it twice today (which really only testifies to my obsessive streak.) Neil-- any word on when you'll hit NY?
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permalink #442 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 17 Mar 01 17:57
permalink #442 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 17 Mar 01 17:57
Sarah, I think the battlefield for the battle of Little Big Horn is in North Dakota. I seem to recall that being the most fascinating part of my trip through those parts (the opposite direction). Then again, I was a little upset on that leg of the trip and wasn't exactly looking for ambiance. Oh, and pictures of Montana really don't do it justice, but it really is a beautiful state to take pictures of. Anyone else remember if Painted Rock Canyon is on that route? Oh, and I think Roslyn, WA is on your way. If you're a Northern Exposure fan, it's worth it for the falafel sandwiches at the Roslyn Cafe. squeaks, who originally typed "Roswell" instead of "Roslyn", a little alien obsessed?
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permalink #443 of 2008: cranky (gorey) Sat 17 Mar 01 18:37
permalink #443 of 2008: cranky (gorey) Sat 17 Mar 01 18:37
<whispered> - if you go to the travel conference, I'm sure lots of people will give you all sorts of entertaining advice on that. There may even already be a topic on weird tourist traps.
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permalink #444 of 2008: -N. (streak) Sat 17 Mar 01 19:14
permalink #444 of 2008: -N. (streak) Sat 17 Mar 01 19:14
The whole discomfiture/darkling issue reminds me of an essay I recently wrote concerning my relationship to the word "gaminesque". The upshot of it was that this relationship was thrown into sudden clarity when, in upstate New York last Christmas, I passed in the street a genuine gamin, wearing an honest-to-goodness gaminesque smile. This startled the hell out of me. I had always assumed that gaminesque smiles were, like darkening brows, one of those facial expressions that fictional people can do with no trouble, but of which the nonfictional are not capable. I further realized that I had a very clear idea of what a gamin was, despite having almost never seen the noun (and only rarely its adjective) and having never, to my recollection, read a description of what the devil a gamin is. However, I've checked this, and it seems like people who read a lot all know and agree on what a gamin is, (though pronunciation varies) and no one knows where they learned this. I never realized, first, how clear my mental image of a gamin is, and second, how obscure that image's origins are, until I actually saw one in the flesh. Ever since I've been keeping a weather eye out for stout fellows, dastards, hippogriffs, and other creatures I've always assumed to be literary creations only.
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permalink #445 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 17 Mar 01 20:08
permalink #445 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 17 Mar 01 20:08
Neil, if this Bay Area signing is punchdrunker than most you will be in a coma. There isn't much other room in that direction.
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permalink #446 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 17 Mar 01 20:29
permalink #446 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 17 Mar 01 20:29
About writers workshops...I've been a part of a few, though, not for long. The main problem I have with them is that I need to learn things and while some things I can learn from other people, I can't in good concience learn or take advice from people who have no idea what they're talking about (or have little idea anyway) Most of these people have never been published, either, so it's like the blind leading the blind...which seems unproductive to me. And ametuer writers by nature tend to have dilluded, overly inflated egos...probably as a defense mechinism, and use it to degrade others work to make themselves feel greater and more powerful than others. (Does anyone remember what a young James Joyce said to Yeats when he first met him?) Groups just make me feel uneasy...so I'm kind of at a catch 22 with myself now..Clarion? I'll have to check it out. Perhaps they won't make me squeamish... Neil- You'd think that authors would have more control of their own work (i.e when it's released...ect.) They SHOULD have more control anyway, as it's THEIR work not the publishing companies. I'm not looking foward to dealing with the weird political buisness aspect of my art. I think I'll just travel around like the bards and promote myself in my own way...Hmmmm...But then, I guess there are advantages to having a strong publishing co backing you as well... You're coming to Cleveland? Yippie!!! I've never seen you in real life. I'll definatly be there, but you'll have to share some of your punch with me...I'll probably be to nervous to say anything and come of as geeky. Wait a minute...isn't it illeagal to be selling AG on ebay before it's officially released? Martha- I ordered your book. It should be on it's way. I know, I'm a bit behind on my reading... *** Information Society! HAHHAHA! I haven't heard them in years...you've inspired me to clean out my closet and find the tapes! My friends and I used to drive around in a big white van with a camcorder and prank various fast food drive up windows...asking for calamari, young fried boys, the sacred cup of coffee and what not...most people laughed and found it funny as it broke the monotany of their boring jobs...but occasionally, we got an angry manager or two...we still have the tapes and watch and laugh at them from time to time. Everyone should try it at least once... Erynn, who is about to wander off to the land of green beer....
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permalink #447 of 2008: cranky (gorey) Sat 17 Mar 01 20:30
permalink #447 of 2008: cranky (gorey) Sat 17 Mar 01 20:30
<streak> - will you let me know if you see someone actually looking up through lowered lashes? People do it in novels all the time but it doesn't seem to be physically possible. If your lashes are lowered, you are, after all, looking down.
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permalink #448 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 17 Mar 01 20:56
permalink #448 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 17 Mar 01 20:56
That's kind of you, Erynn, thanks.
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permalink #449 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sat 17 Mar 01 22:00
permalink #449 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sat 17 Mar 01 22:00
Erynn-- didn't Joyce say "you're not all that," or something to that effect? (ok, probably not "you're not all that" per se.)
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permalink #450 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sat 17 Mar 01 23:29
permalink #450 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sat 17 Mar 01 23:29
Who for some reason just has lots ot say to Michelle today... On Rasputins - SLZ... San Lorenzo?? Criminy it's a small world, I lived two blocks from there just a little over a year ago. On Tattos - My tolerance for pain is pretty high, or so I'm told... I don't really know how to compare that kind of thing... and I figure that if I *still* want a raven in another year I might as well get the damn thing. On interesting names - The woman I am currently (and hopefully for a very long time to come) involved with is named Eden... and yes, it is the name she was born with. giving her that name is probably the coolest thing her parents ever did. On Cody's - Hey! My first potential Neil signing.. groovy. Of course, I have to be in a conference in San Jose that day, but I can make it back up to Berkeley in time to be the 400th person in line, no problem! *sigh* General note re: beards - I just shaved my "goodness you look like a proper british villian, are you sure you're from California" beard that I've had for about two years now. People keep doing double takes.
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