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permalink #701 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 1 Apr 01 22:39
permalink #701 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 1 Apr 01 22:39
Len -- let me know what you think of 69 Love Songs. I'm at Steve Brust's house tonight -- I gave him 69 Love songs for Xmas, and it seems to have had deep and far reaching effects. It doesn't matter if you love Las Vegas or hate it. It just carries on being Las Vegas. But it isn't like anywhere else. Martha... um... what is rotisserie thing? Michelle -- that is, of course, the April 1st post...
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permalink #702 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 1 Apr 01 22:46
permalink #702 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 1 Apr 01 22:46
Rotisserie baseball is a game that you play, using the playing statistics of real-life big-leage baseball players over the course of a season. At the beginning of the season, everyone has a set budget with which to "draft", in an auction, a full roster of baseball players, covering all the positions you need on a full baseball team. Then you just hope the people you "own" hit home runs, pitch strikeouts, do all those good things, more than the people your competitors "own" do in aggregate. Last year was my first year, and I came in 8 of 14 in a 14-team, NL-only roto league, so if I improve at all I'll be in the top half of our little league. It means you have to do a lot of research about how well every player in the National League (or the AL or some draft from both, but then you get to ignore all the not-so-good players because no one will need to draft them to fill out their roster). Are you glad you asked? Oh, and it's called "Rotisserie" because that was the name of the bar the guys who invented it frequented; and Mike will be glad to know that Mike Piazza is a founding member of my team (but he's no- option--I have to let him go after this year).
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permalink #703 of 2008: Seth Freilich (ceymick) Mon 2 Apr 01 06:59
permalink #703 of 2008: Seth Freilich (ceymick) Mon 2 Apr 01 06:59
i loved the harlan ellison gag. when i first read it, i chuckled because i believed it. then i got towards the end, and it was just too much, and i happened to glance at my desk calander, which reminded me what day it was, and then i laughed even more. so i wake up this morning to find that a good friend's e-mail april fools joke backfired, and caused another good friend to announce, before she wanted to methinks, that she's been pregnant for months. this is problematic because she's been going out with a good friend of ours (and one of my roomates) for about two years, but i'm about 98% sure it's not his. and she didn't know about it herself for quite a while because she's got 2 uterises (uteri?), which will also lead to many problems in the month to come. sigh . . . maybe i've got the material for that first book of mine. re fantasy baseball: the one i'm in sets us up in games - so we play someone new from our league every 3 or 4 days. over the course of the 3 or 4 day game, all our players' points are added up, and at the end of the 3/4 day game, the one with more points gets a win. we then get ranked by win/lose records, with total points only coming into play as tiebreakers. ok - off to drink some sencha to fully wake me up (the pregnancy post did most of the job) and then off to go learn things that none of you, nor i, ever wanted to learn about patent law . . . . -- s
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permalink #704 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Mon 2 Apr 01 07:16
permalink #704 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Mon 2 Apr 01 07:16
Neil-- 69 Love Songs (vol.1) is amazing. I'd heard about this album about a year ago from a friend of mine, who ordered me to get it right away, and who I foolishly ignored. But between his praise and yours, eventually I went for it. I love the idea of doing 69 love songs-- it seems to be a kind of writer's boot camp exercise-- a bit like the 24 hour comic. Merrit's writing is amazingly intricate and precise... I read a comparison between him and Cole Porter or Ira Gershwin, but his colloquial quality and ambivalence remind me more of William Finn-- you feel like you're listening to someone articulately expressing his feelings, then you look back and there's a carefully crafted underlying structure. The disc is a strike against the idea that lyrics that are too precise and perfectly rhymed don't belong in rock-- I mean, he's up there with Elvis Costello in sheer lyric craft. Is he planning to do a musical? I feel like I'm just beginning to scratch the surface of the songs-- the cd's going take up residence in my discman all week. My one tiny quibble-- he obviously pays a lot of attention to his scansion, so when a syllable is mis-stressed, it sticks out like a sore thumb... and I'm not always sure it's intentional. That bugs me-- I have the visceral impulse to take an iron and flatten the line back into shape.
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permalink #705 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 2 Apr 01 10:10
permalink #705 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 2 Apr 01 10:10
Neil - On Placebos The connection between mind/body is one that I continue to be fascinated by. The relationship to "faith healing" is one that I've had my eye on for some time, especially as Jesus himself made references to his ability to heal being connected to the faith of those he was healing. The Rogaine story's really interesting in that capacity. (suddenly wondering if faith healers will make an appearance in American Gods, and hoping so) - On Borders Fiasco I had the pleasure of seeing Patrick Stewart in The Ride Down Mt. Morgan in NYC last summer, and during one of his firey monologues, a police or amublance siren starting going off right next to the stage door and apparently wasn't making much forward progress, since it continued throughout the next few minutes while he doggedly performed over it. It seems that the Horribly, Horribly Wrong fairy visits us all from time to time. ... and if you were able to sign a big fuzzy snake, then you've obviously become very adept at signing strange things. -On Vegas Didn't Tim Burton claim that Las Vegas was the Heart of America, and not the midwest? His point being that Vegas epitomized everything that was truly and uniquely American. I'm not sure it was a compliment, although with him, it may have been. Michelle - Yeah, I had tentative plans to catch that show, but after doing my own show that night I decided that I'd rather go hang out quietly with friends than deal with a jam packed club. As for the depression... I think that music and stuffed animals would be a better investment than shrinks and prozac. Then again, I have a predisposition towards avoiding legal pharmaceuticals in general.
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permalink #706 of 2008: Daniel Lofton (daniellofton) Mon 2 Apr 01 12:12
permalink #706 of 2008: Daniel Lofton (daniellofton) Mon 2 Apr 01 12:12
Something that came up in Medical Anthropology class was the concept of the nocebo effect. It's essentially the opposite of the placebo effect in that illness is found to be caused by the belief of the person. It has ties to sympathetic magic like voodoo and also reported cases of people getting sick because they believed so strongly that they would.
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permalink #707 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 2 Apr 01 14:14
permalink #707 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 2 Apr 01 14:14
Just wanted to let you know that I am having some sort of weird e-mail snafu, so if you send something to be posted to this topic please address it to inkwell-hosts@well.com, not just to me, because I won't be seeing it for a while. And thank you so much for reminding me that the Locus thing was posted on April 1 because I absolutely believed every word of it.
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permalink #708 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Mon 2 Apr 01 18:59
permalink #708 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Mon 2 Apr 01 18:59
Yeah, I was sucked in too.
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permalink #709 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek, world wiser (whispered) Mon 2 Apr 01 19:12
permalink #709 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek, world wiser (whispered) Mon 2 Apr 01 19:12
and just returned from an exhausting and inspiring drive across a big chunk of the U.S., Nick Cave + 2/3rds of the Dirty Three concert to boot..I am now convinced that all northern small towns from the Rockies to the west subsist on casinos as the ones east of the mountains seem to rely on antique stores. At least you can always find animals constructed out of machinery and tractor entrails. And now a week's worth of Well posts gets me through an slow night at work. Yay! Neil- I'd forgotten about your Steve Brust connection. A good friend of mine/ex-RenFest choirgirl is friends with Steve Brust's daughter. Shira, you met her at Renfest. *small world after all*
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permalink #710 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Mon 2 Apr 01 21:42
permalink #710 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Mon 2 Apr 01 21:42
re: April Fools - Of course the Harlan Locus thing was an April Fools day gag. I just meant that I wasn't surprised they poked fun at Harlan, and in the silliest way. :o) One of my co-worker's was telling me today that he planned to move his truck around the corner, wake his girl up and tell her that it had been stolen. He woke up, instead, to her poking him frantically and telling him the truck had been stolen. Then she started laughing. How sickeningly cute is it that they wanted to play the same prank on each other? Martha - Sounds odd, but fun. :) Len - "Chicken with its head cut off" is still my fave of the bunch. Dan - Well, you missed a good show (aren't I mean?). As for stuffed animals and music; after 12-13 years of trial and error, they just aren't quite enough. squeaks, who just bought plushy duckies and bunnies, just in case.
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permalink #711 of 2008: Sweet Shiva on a Skateboard (madman) Mon 2 Apr 01 22:02
permalink #711 of 2008: Sweet Shiva on a Skateboard (madman) Mon 2 Apr 01 22:02
squeaks- that is, truly, about as sickeningly cute as I've EVER heard. Very amusing!
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permalink #712 of 2008: Holy Gouda (erynn-miles) Mon 2 Apr 01 22:23
permalink #712 of 2008: Holy Gouda (erynn-miles) Mon 2 Apr 01 22:23
Re Rogaine: I wonder if anyone who took the placebos experienced any sexual side-effects? Sarah- isn't Nick Cave great? Neil- On the Borders fiasco: I think you should have gotten up on stage, told the folks (in your cute accent) that "sorry, there are no books, it seems that the Leprechaun and the penguin ran off with them." and then proceeded to form a conga line and insist that everyone join in. It would have most definitely stirred up a great deal of media attention, not to mention confuse people to the extent of forgetting that they had only heard of you from a so-and-so. That's what I would have done. I have no idea what I'm saying.... Goodnight from Erynn, who thought that Day light savings time was some kind of sick April fools joke...but is sadly mistaken.
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permalink #713 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Mon 2 Apr 01 22:26
permalink #713 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Mon 2 Apr 01 22:26
Michelle- Shrinks are okay sometimes...but don't do the drugs...they just make you feel numb....and that's worse than blue.
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permalink #714 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 2 Apr 01 23:56
permalink #714 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 2 Apr 01 23:56
Rotisserie baseball is such a big thing that there are magazines published, for-pay websites, and even cable TV programs for the roto player. It's always a surprise how many people you may find when you pick up this rock or that rock to look.
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permalink #715 of 2008: -N. (streak) Tue 3 Apr 01 02:10
permalink #715 of 2008: -N. (streak) Tue 3 Apr 01 02:10
The phenomenon of human subcultures never fails to fascinate me. There are people who have major, major portions of their waking lives consumed by things you and I have never even heard of. Their whole social circle runs around these things, it's the gravitational mass that distorts their life and all their affairs, and we are completely innocent of its existence. And there are untold thousands of these. The obsessive sexual kinks _alone_ are something I've studied for years and keep being surprised by. It really makes me love people.
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permalink #716 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Tue 3 Apr 01 04:47
permalink #716 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Tue 3 Apr 01 04:47
Streak-- That's why I love going to really big magazine stores... the number of big, glossy magazines celebrating interests I've never heard of is truly astounding. FerretFancy... Crossbow Hunter Digest... it's a big world out there. Sarah-- very jealous about Nick Cave. Michelle-- I like "Chicken..." too. Too early to have a fave yet...
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permalink #717 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 3 Apr 01 09:05
permalink #717 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 3 Apr 01 09:05
Martha --oh. I see. Well, good luck. Len -- Stephin wants, among other things, to do 69 Love Songs as a stage show. We've talked about working together -- it's the mutual fans thing, -- but haven't done any more than that yet. Dan -- no faith healers in American Gods. I wrote one in Good Omens, though, many years ago. Sarah -- yes, it really is. Erynn -- good lord.
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permalink #718 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 3 Apr 01 09:06
permalink #718 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 3 Apr 01 09:06
Did I mention that I finished the first draft of the Death movie? No? Well, I did.
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permalink #719 of 2008: Len (theboojum) Tue 3 Apr 01 09:47
permalink #719 of 2008: Len (theboojum) Tue 3 Apr 01 09:47
Neil-- Congrats on the first draft! Yahoo! If you should ever choose to adapt it to stage, I think Stephin's writing would be a dead-on match... and maybe even a better match to D:The Time of Your Life.
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permalink #720 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 3 Apr 01 10:48
permalink #720 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 3 Apr 01 10:48
Neil-- Well, you asked. Congrats on the draft! Do you like it?
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permalink #721 of 2008: JanNell (jonl) Tue 3 Apr 01 11:10
permalink #721 of 2008: JanNell (jonl) Tue 3 Apr 01 11:10
Email from JaNell: Michelle-regarding those packages at ConCat(post 687), yes, the desk staff apparently kept telling NightWalker that they weren't there, but then they were, right after the auction... Linda-sorry your email's messed up, but glad to know I wasn't being snubbed. Did you get the gnome-related email? Neil-I got the answer to my serious question at the tour dates link, so Lexington is a possibility to get things signed and say "Hey" and all. Another question, maybe more- Do authors get any say-so about the cover art? Have you been happy with the cover art on your books, in visual/artistic quality as well as ability to represent the contents? JaNell
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permalink #722 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 3 Apr 01 12:17
permalink #722 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 3 Apr 01 12:17
JaNell -- we get input. Ever since I designed my first book cover on a table-napkin in a pub and gave it to my editor, who didn't know that authors weren't meant to do that, so gave it to the head of the art department, who gave it to the artist who painted it. (That was GHASTLY BEYOND BELIEF). The only one I didn't like was the Avon Stardust -- which I lied as one of a set of three covers (as it was designed). When they threw away that concept, it was too late to start from scratch. American Gods was a cover I loved before ever I'd written the book -- they sent it to me as a rough design after they'd read the outline. Thanks, Len and Martha. I'm much happier with it than I was when I was in the middle of it. Looking forward to the second draft...
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permalink #723 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 3 Apr 01 12:18
permalink #723 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 3 Apr 01 12:18
"...which I liked as one of three covers." Not lied. It was one of a tryptych.
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permalink #724 of 2008: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 3 Apr 01 12:18
permalink #724 of 2008: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 3 Apr 01 12:18
(Note that when I posted JaNell's comment, I typo'd her name in the pseud... it's not now, nor has it ever been, JanNell. I firmly retract the extra 'n.' Sorry, JaNell...)
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permalink #725 of 2008: Justin Wieland (justinwieland) Tue 3 Apr 01 13:54
permalink #725 of 2008: Justin Wieland (justinwieland) Tue 3 Apr 01 13:54
Neil - You mentioned a little while back a possible doing-something with Stephin . Any idea on what sort of thing you might be doing together ? Would it be the mentioned stage take of 69 Love Songs maybe or something else ? And just what is this Snow Glass Apples CD ? Is it easy to find ? I don't think I've ever heard of that one . . . Sarah ( or anyone who went to those recent NCave shows ) - How was it ? I really wanted to go , I've only been lucky enough to see him the last time around . But when I saw that the Bad Seeds weren't going to be playing with him , I didn't want to risk going and being disappointed . One of the things I hate most is being disappointed , especially when it might make me think twice about seeing him again live . Did they play much off the new album ? I've only seen the setlist of the Los Angeles gig and it didn't look like they did but maybe two songs from it . sined me .
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