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permalink #1051 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Sat 28 Apr 01 04:57
permalink #1051 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Sat 28 Apr 01 04:57
Neil -- You're working on something involving <i>AVALON</i>? Oh my! I've had the first two trailers sitting on my desktop at work for months, wondering if the film is as good as they look. What do you think of it? How exciting that you are in some way involved (hopefully for you as well as for us). Are you doing an English translation (a la Monoke)? The original film is in Polish with Japanese subtitles, yes? How very wild. And good luck thirded!
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permalink #1052 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 28 Apr 01 09:26
permalink #1052 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 28 Apr 01 09:26
Danguy -- the version I'm doing stuff with is in Polish with English subtitles. And no, I'm not doing an English thing -- it's quite possible that the stuff I'm doing will wind up in Polish. Martha - will do.
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permalink #1053 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Sat 28 Apr 01 16:03
permalink #1053 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Sat 28 Apr 01 16:03
...and including #73, this topic is celebrating its first birthday. Whee.
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permalink #1054 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 28 Apr 01 16:44
permalink #1054 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 28 Apr 01 16:44
Thanks for pointing it out, Sarah. & a happy anniversary to all our readers. Signed on the Dangerous Visions table at the LA book fair today. Was astonished by the number of fans (and from the books they carried, serious fans) who didn't know that American Gods was coming out or that I was doing a real signing tour. So, anyone reading this -- spread the word. Tell people. Post things places. There...
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permalink #1055 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 28 Apr 01 16:45
permalink #1055 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 28 Apr 01 16:45
And Martha, will do.
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permalink #1056 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 28 Apr 01 17:46
permalink #1056 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 28 Apr 01 17:46
Now I guess you will do it twice!
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permalink #1057 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 28 Apr 01 21:02
permalink #1057 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 28 Apr 01 21:02
Neil- I didn't even know you wrote books until about two years ago when I found a copy of "Neverwhere" that someone had left behind in a hotel room. And I was like: "Neat! Neil wrote a book." When I regained internet access, I found out that you had more than one book. Needless to say, I was utterly amazed! I have no idea what I'd do without the net....
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permalink #1058 of 2008: Robynne (gorey) Sat 28 Apr 01 21:08
permalink #1058 of 2008: Robynne (gorey) Sat 28 Apr 01 21:08
<madman> and I found a copy of "Neverwhere" for rent at a cute little cult video store in Berkeley. We declined to rent it.
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permalink #1059 of 2008: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Sat 28 Apr 01 21:31
permalink #1059 of 2008: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Sat 28 Apr 01 21:31
I found a copy of Neverwhere quite a while ago at the Hong Kong Blockbuster-equivalent (they went under and now it *is* Blockbuster) and rented it... ... I liked the book better. ^_^; Happy anniversary, topic 73&104! -- Mimi
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permalink #1060 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 28 Apr 01 23:35
permalink #1060 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 28 Apr 01 23:35
I've never seen the series and from the way Neil talks about it I don't think I want to. Love the book, though.
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permalink #1061 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 28 Apr 01 23:47
permalink #1061 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 28 Apr 01 23:47
I stopped by a Tower Outlet on the way home from a Giants/Cubs game this afternoon, browsed around, and found a softcover copy of "Now We Are Sick" of all things. (There was various unusual stock. "Domesticity Isn't Pretty" was there too.) Neil's name is on the front cover of more books than you can possibly imagine.
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permalink #1062 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sun 29 Apr 01 00:51
permalink #1062 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sun 29 Apr 01 00:51
Basically, <gorey> and I looked at it, read the back, and she said, "Too bad Neil said it sucks." Now while I don't really remember just how much exaggeration that characterization may be, we both laughed and put it back. We also declined to rent either of a pair of Eddie Izzard hosted videos about Monty Python, despite having gone into the shop in the first place wondering if they had any of Izzard's standup. Just so Neil knows Neverwhere was in good company.
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permalink #1063 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 29 Apr 01 02:14
permalink #1063 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 29 Apr 01 02:14
Madman -- don't let me put you off: there are some good things in Neverwhere. Some lovely performances, and several lovely moments. ... Survived Nebula night, MC'd, made speech, all went well. Now I am tired. Goodnight.
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permalink #1064 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sun 29 Apr 01 04:00
permalink #1064 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sun 29 Apr 01 04:00
madman and gorey - I rather liked the series very muchly... it's just the cow I have a problem with. the big... fluffy... cow... hmmm... Le Video in SF (the city, not the book-genre) used to have a copy - they might still. (They don't like me, so I try not to go in there any more. Mostly David J's fault, but still.) Neil - Still plugging like mad on my website, and anyone on the sfgoth e-lists, or that goes to any of the clubs I go to, knows about it, and is dying to get their hands on a copy. One of my managers is even trying to make it to a reading, just to see why I'm refusing to work on the local signing dates. (Jeebus, but it sounds like I'm awaiting a pat on the head or something - oh wait, I am! Mmmm... foreign Stardust...) Btw, your speech reminded me to kick myself for dropping out of math classes all those ages ago. I was certain I'd be a journalist or a musician, so why did I need to know calculus? Whenever I make it back to school, I'm planning for a degree in some variety of Geology... requiring calculus. Oh well, I'll probably change majors again before I get that far. squeaks, serious fan who was recently reintroduced to a girl, by a mutual friend, in the following manner: (pointing to me)"Neil Gaiman," (pointing to her)"Jonathan Carroll." and vice versa.
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permalink #1065 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sun 29 Apr 01 08:30
permalink #1065 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sun 29 Apr 01 08:30
Neil-- congrats on surviving nebula; those clouds of superhot gas can be terribly corrosive :) Everybody-- happy anniversary! I send you all roses and champagne!
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permalink #1066 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sun 29 Apr 01 08:38
permalink #1066 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Sun 29 Apr 01 08:38
Neil-- having read your speech just now... Please tell your 12 year old self that he can be proud-- your writing has absolutely and forever changed how I look at the world.
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permalink #1067 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sun 29 Apr 01 10:07
permalink #1067 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sun 29 Apr 01 10:07
Neil- Wonderful speech! (But I wouldn't expect anything less of you) Michelle-Geez. Don't tell me you hang out with David J *and* the dude from Information Society! I'm so jealous. Someday, David J will be my friend....someday....He is, after all, one of the 500 real people in the world.
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permalink #1068 of 2008: the unreal (miss-mousey) Sun 29 Apr 01 12:30
permalink #1068 of 2008: the unreal (miss-mousey) Sun 29 Apr 01 12:30
Erynn - Nonononono... I'm kind of a 'gopher-girl' for the club. David J came to spin for us. He asked that we rent the video Metropolis to be played on a screen on the dancefloor. I set up an account and rented it from Le Video (the only place that had it). Then there was confusion and it wasn't returned for over a month. Come to think of it, after yet more confusion (not my fault, btw), I don't think David J thinks too highly of me either. Ho hum. So no need for jealousy. squeaks, whose hair, however, is green with envy this week.
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permalink #1069 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sun 29 Apr 01 12:38
permalink #1069 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sun 29 Apr 01 12:38
Neil- to put it in perspective, one must realize that it takes something monumental to get me to sit in front of a television for just about any reason. Someday, I will watch it. But this weekend doesn't include that day. Last night I had a dream that was a cross between Sandman, Neuromancer, and Donnerjack. I was, essentially, Destruction, but the plot more closely resembled a cross between Destruction and Ishtar's story and Dream Hunters. Oddly, the dream included some still images that conveyed plot, as though I had been reading something formatted as Dream Hunters is... It was seriously weird.
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permalink #1070 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sun 29 Apr 01 14:54
permalink #1070 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sun 29 Apr 01 14:54
Michelle- So David J dosen't like you because you found a tape for him? Why didn't he have his own copy? Maybe he's only half real. I'd rather meet Peter Murphy, anyway. I saw him up close at a show fairly recently. He was great. I was so close to him, in fact, that I could see his man boobies. Neil- Okay, time for the photo story! Let's hear it, let's hear it! Erynn, who is merely a hallucination on your part brought on by a bad piece of cheese.
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permalink #1071 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sun 29 Apr 01 21:58
permalink #1071 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sun 29 Apr 01 21:58
Erynn - love the cheese thing... Michelle - your hair is green now? How long does your hair stay one particular color? (I mean, I love it... but I remember looking at your Girls with Glasses layout, and your hair was a different color when I saw you, and now it's a different color again... you're a rainbow girl!) Neil - I honestly don't know what to say about the speech. It made me think of what I wanted to be when I grew up, and the twisting and confusing paths I've walked since then. I'm so different from the picture I had of myself at twelve. So different from the picture I had of myself a mere six years ago. The twelve year old me would consider the 30 year old me a work of implausible fiction and would be too mystified to be dissapointed. In any event, let me add my voice to the chorus of "thank you" for being a SF writer in the sense of "SF means whatever the hell we want it to mean"... You've inspired me, as you have inspired so many others, in ways no other author has before. You've even helped me come to terms with my own tendency to go "Fan-boy" about you with your frankness about your own ability to lose higher brain functions around those you respect and admire the most. (If I maintain any sort of eloquence at the book signing in Berkeley, I'll be quite astonished) You've lit my imagination aflame with your work, directed me to other fabulous authors (and musicians), and generally proved that the advice of "never aspire to meet your favorite writer because you'll be deeply dissapointed" is not universally true. Dan
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permalink #1072 of 2008: Kristin Philbrick (kristin-liz) Sun 29 Apr 01 23:10
permalink #1072 of 2008: Kristin Philbrick (kristin-liz) Sun 29 Apr 01 23:10
On the occasion of the 1st anniversary of this topic, I suppose I will have to finally de-lurk. The impetus is not really that its the 1st anniversary, but instead that the lock on my call-room door is broken, and all of my stuff is inside. Thus, Im stuck here at the hospital tonight with no reading material. All my texts are in there and Id even made a trip to Dreamhaven yesterday in preparation for downtime between emergencies and calls. <sigh> So, to de-lurk First the initial fan-girl shuffling of feet: red-faced, ducked head, etc. Ive had this fear of fanaticism ever since reading Harlan Ellisons Xenogenesis and so Ive never gotten around to e-mailing or writing authors who have affected me. That said, Ive always mean to contact you, Neil, through a publisher or some such means to say how much I appreciated Sandman and subsequent works. When I reached the end of The Wake, tears streaming down my face, I was struck by how appropriately final it all wasId just taken a long journey that coursed over several years, revisiting some places more than once, and it had come to its end just where it was supposed to. Obviously I had no idea what that destination was when I picked up Preludes and Nocturnes but I had reached it. Ive only had that experience, tears and all, one other time in my 22+ years of reading: I was in the 8th grade and had just finished The High King by Lloyd Alexander. I consider it a rare gift and I thank you. On other works I have an unbound, uncut copy of Angels & Visitations that I bought at Dreamhaven b/c the real copy was $50 and I couldnt afford it at the time. I thought it might be fun to unfold and spread out and read at some point. Its not. Its a royal pain. So, Im thinking about binding it myself, making my own cover, and possibly bringing it to one of the Minneapolis signings, but I have little to no idea how to do this. (The binding/cover part that is.) I could probably work something out and do a credible job with it I think. It would be easier if someone knew a website with pointers or could pass along some ideas though. Any takers? I've had this thing for almost a year now and I haven't read it. It's driving me nuts to have a book on my shelf that I haven't read. I guess thats all for now. Thanks again. Off to get some sleep if possible.
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permalink #1073 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Mon 30 Apr 01 01:16
permalink #1073 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Mon 30 Apr 01 01:16
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permalink #1074 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Mon 30 Apr 01 01:19
permalink #1074 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Mon 30 Apr 01 01:19
Kristin - Nice to have another local in the topic. Not to mention someone who had an emotional response to "The High King". That series was one of my childhood hallmarks. It was sort of an emptiness...orf, that's it, that's all he's given us of Prydain. So in the next logical step, I pulled out my lovely pink notebook and wrote my first novella. :] . . . Speaking of books, I just picked up "White Noise: An A-Z of the Contradictions in Cyberculture" and had to smile at the fact that the third chaper, Community/Alienation is primarily focused on the WELL. Interesting. Seems I knew next to nothing about this place. Didn't even realize it was connected with the Whole Earth Catalog. :+
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permalink #1075 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 30 Apr 01 02:15
permalink #1075 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 30 Apr 01 02:15
Kristin -- Welcome. I too had such an emotional response to finishing "the Wake", and to finishing <b>The High King</b>. I was just thinking of Prydain the other day, actually, thinking that it has been ten years at least since I last re-read those books, and that I desperately need to purchase my own copies (now that I no longer live at home and have my mother's at my disposal) so that I can re-read them, and read them to Alexander when he's old enough. Neil -- I loved the speech. Thank your 12 year old self on my behalf for being sure then, and thank you now for doing what you do.
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