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permalink #1701 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Mon 4 Jun 01 16:23
permalink #1701 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Mon 4 Jun 01 16:23
jinx- Yes, it is. It drives me crazy, which is the main reason I don't watch a lot of TV. Unfortunatly, a lot of movies these days are like that too. I almost would have liked "The Cell", but I didn't care if she got caught in that world or died. In fact, I was kind of hoping she would die. I think the pendulum is starting to swing the other way, though. There are a lot of good directors, writers and musicians coming out of the woodwork. (and Neil, I know, will be an excellent director) Michelle- Yay for rats! :D Joeseph- I'm currently reading Ursula Le Guin's "The Left Hand of Darkness" It's weird because I've always written sci-fi/fantasy-like stuff, but I've really only recently began to read it. Very good book. Next stop: Mr. Ellison. Will- Congrats on the dancing! I bet it was groovy:) As far as novel length... I've read that the reason they don't usually accept longer novels from previously un-published authors is because, if no one's heard of you, they can't be sure that people will put down money on a big honkin book. all marketing-buisiness stuff that doesn't usually (and probably shouldn't) make sense to an artist. However, if your name is out there and you've proven that people will buy your stuff, they don't seem to care how big or small the book is. But I wouldn't worry about it too much. It's hard to find an agent and get publised no matter what the length of mss is. I would think that if length were an issue, they would tell you that upfront. don't know. When I was trying to sell my screenplay years back, I heard a lot of crazy things. Some said it was too short, some said it was too long, some said it was too commercial, some not commercial enough. Finally, someone offered to buy it, but I think they just wanted to use parts of it or something. Just try as many agents as you can (reputable ones) and if they reject you, ask them why. Maria and Tori bat- Hi! aahhh, off to eat Italian food again. I swear, I'm gonna get so fat living here....
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permalink #1702 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Mon 4 Jun 01 16:40
permalink #1702 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Mon 4 Jun 01 16:40
I had a very Neverwhere sort of Sunday night. I was going up to Fort Tryon Park, which for those unfamiliar with NY, is a very un-Manhattan park way up on the upper, upper, upper West Side (190th St.+) of Manhattan. It's where the Cloisters is, and it's full of winding paths and flower gardens that overlook the Hudson River. Up there is the only place you can go mountain climbing in Manhattan. The reason I was going there was to see a local theatre company, Gorilla Rep, do a production of Macbeth. Anyway, the subway to Fort Tryon lets out, after an elevator ride up [elevators are really rare in the NY subways], right onto the cobblestone plaza entrance to the park. There's tons of trees and grass there--it's like taking an elevator into the middle of a forest. And Gorilla Rep's Macbeth is staged environmentally, meaning that the entire park is their stage-- you run around chasing the actors, the witches appearing at the tops of gates and the warriors fighting their way through real forests-- and with the sun setting over the river, and with the Cloisters hanging overhead you couldn't have asked for a more magical place to see theatre. It worked-- I was transported. This wasn't NYC-- it was NYC's dream of itself 800 years ago. Coming home, I took the A train and transfered to the 1/9 train at 168th St.-- and I don't know if it's the first time I ever noticed it, but the 168th St. station is amazing-- high, vaulted ceilings with intricately patterned mosaic borders, lit by wrought-iron and glass-globed streetlamps that must have been gaslit once. There's even two open bridges-- with their own set of streetlights-- that go over the tracks to allow you to easily change directon. Weirdest yet, at the top of the ceiling vaults are those big tile circles that almost look like chandeliers used to hang from them or something, which I suppose is impossible. The total effect isn't NY at all, but of some Victorian Underground station-- and since it's deep in the heart of Washington Heights, I'll bet that most New Yorkers don't even know it exists. I feel like I got to see one of New York's secret faces last night. I don't know why it lends itself to the language of myth and fantasy, but it did feel transformative--something out of Neil's stuff, or John Crowley's or Peter Beagle's. Maybe the next time I go to that station, or to Fort Tryon Park, what I'll notice will be the grime, or the homeless or whatever... but last night was a pure dose of the magic that keeps me in this city.
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permalink #1703 of 2008: Trinx, or should it be Jiee? (jinx) Mon 4 Jun 01 17:33
permalink #1703 of 2008: Trinx, or should it be Jiee? (jinx) Mon 4 Jun 01 17:33
Linda--I have some good news and some bad news and some worse news. The bad news is POA means price on application. The worse news is that I could have sworn that 'Mischief' had a sold sticker on it when I saw the exhibition. The good news is that if you scout around, you can find a bunch of his work as limited edition prints which, with the Aussie dollar worth a hearty chuckle at the moment, will be dirt cheap for you. Email me (me@ladymisstree.com) and I'll scout around and see what I can find for you. Erynn--I loved the visuals of The Cell. JLo or whatever the hell she's calling herself today, however, gets up my nose. Can't stand the woman. If she had just shut up and wandered around inside the baddie's head for the entire movie, it would have been of the good. Len--How wonderful! I adore that moment when you look up at a building and see a gargoyle that you had never noticed, or you wander down an alley you never knew was there. That fantastic sense of wonder you get. Tree Who is in a shockingly bad mood right now because she received a 60 day eviction notice last night and will be overseas for a large chunk of the time she has left to find a new home. :(
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permalink #1704 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 4 Jun 01 18:18
permalink #1704 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 4 Jun 01 18:18
Tree - why being evicted?? That's terrible! Will send e-mail immediately about Mischief!
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permalink #1705 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Mon 4 Jun 01 21:18
permalink #1705 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Mon 4 Jun 01 21:18
jinx/tree- That's horrible! oh no! I hope you find a place soon <good vibes your way> I love Neverwhere Sundays. And it always seems to be Sundays because Sundays are boring days when nothing is open and I go wandering out of boredom, into strange things....
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permalink #1706 of 2008: Tree: #1 Cardboard Box, Someone's Back Garden (jinx) Mon 4 Jun 01 21:37
permalink #1706 of 2008: Tree: #1 Cardboard Box, Someone's Back Garden (jinx) Mon 4 Jun 01 21:37
Gentrification, Linda. I should have seen this coming a mile off. Literally dozens of new apartment blocks have been built around me recently. The landlord (may lobster-sized boils plague his arse for the remainder of his days) must have found out the exorbitant amount of rent they are charging and decided to slap a little paint on and cash in. But to do that, he needs to evict everyone from the building. Including my brother, who lives upstairs. I'm enlisting as much help as I can between now and the deadline to find a place and get moved. Unfortunately, I have an overseas guest staying with me when I get back from my trip, so he may find himself helping me lug boxes. Poor bugger. Any good vibes sent my way are muchly appreciated. Anyone know of a good real estate charm? ;> Tree Who needs a Neverwhere Sunday this weekend.
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permalink #1707 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Mon 4 Jun 01 22:50
permalink #1707 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Mon 4 Jun 01 22:50
O.K., I'm starting to feel like a jinx. Have *all* of us moved this spring? Tree, I'm so sorry. Many good vibes! The only charm I can think of is buryig a statue of St. Joseph in the yard, but that's to *sell* your house. All wrong. Better to pray to St. Brigid--your woman's Irish, she knows from homeless! Len--when I was in NYC a year ago, we went to the Cloisters. That show must have been cool! (Have you seen Producers yet? What did you think?) Next time I come, I wanna check out that train station. Will--congrats on the dance competition! Sorry about the rejection slip. Next time! Mary, gigglig maniacally over the "Buggre All Thatte" Bible
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permalink #1708 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 5 Jun 01 01:02
permalink #1708 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 5 Jun 01 01:02
I will not take it personally that the Well servers went down at the same moment I sent my reply to the last 30 or so messages, zapping it off into the ether. Nope. Not me. Uh uh. Not even a little bit.
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permalink #1709 of 2008: -N. (streak) Tue 5 Jun 01 01:24
permalink #1709 of 2008: -N. (streak) Tue 5 Jun 01 01:24
I, on the other hand, will take it terribly personally that the post I just spent 20 minutes composing is now so many random electrons someplace. Short version: pillaging Douglas Adams's PC for novel fragments bad. John Bellairs good.
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permalink #1710 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Tue 5 Jun 01 05:56
permalink #1710 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Tue 5 Jun 01 05:56
I mourn for every lost post. A friend of mine got her English prof to accept her pitch of a paper about comic books and their relation to Dostoevsky. The resulting paper cites Neil, Jeff Smith, Edward Gorey, The Battleship Potempkin, Scott McCloud, and Maimonides, as well as including part of a panel from _Arkham Asylum_ by Grant Morrison and Dave McKean. I'm very proud of her, so I thought I'd throw out the link to it: http://www.manufacturingmystique.com/inkursion/comics/maintext.html
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permalink #1711 of 2008: a phalanx, an avalanche of Jews (theboojum) Tue 5 Jun 01 06:30
permalink #1711 of 2008: a phalanx, an avalanche of Jews (theboojum) Tue 5 Jun 01 06:30
Jinx-- oh, man-- good luck! [Have you considered relocating to the source of all good things, Astoria Queens? We need people like you.] Erynn-- Neverwhere Sunday-- lovely coinage! Mary-- No, haven't seen the Producers yet-- I'm seeing it on June 27. To be frank, I'm such a fan of the movie-- and such a critic of Mel's later stuff-- that I thought the musical would be an abomination. BUT-- when the reviews came out (I've never seen the Times give such a rave), I ran to the computer and got tickets off the telecharge website. Cheap seats, but in the theatre. I heard the CD of the score recently and was't blown away-- much better than adequate, but I don't know if it deserved Best Score. I'm hoping that the gestalt effect of the whole show will be better than the effect of the CD. Neil-- an American Gods question-- is the Odin in AG essentially the Odin you used in Sandman, or have you re-invented him to suit the new novel? Were you ever, at any point tempted to throw in oblique little references to the world of Sandman?
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permalink #1712 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Tue 5 Jun 01 06:32
permalink #1712 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Tue 5 Jun 01 06:32
Danguy-- printing your friend's paper even as we speak.
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permalink #1713 of 2008: Angelina Venti (velvetraisin) Tue 5 Jun 01 07:44
permalink #1713 of 2008: Angelina Venti (velvetraisin) Tue 5 Jun 01 07:44
Tori Bat--Just finished the hell that is school as well. :) I suppose that with all the poo I have in my personal life that school on top was just too much. I think I'll play the working game a little bit too. Good to hear from you again! Len--Wow to your Sunday Neverwhere experience. I would love to see a play performed like that. It sounds incredible, but I wonder if my feet would get tired. Tree--My goodness! How horrible to get evicted, and at such short notice. I am definitely sending good real estate vibes your way. Was wondering if anyone here is planning to go to Dayton, as it seems that all my other destinations are falling through. :( I suppose it gives me much more money to buy obscene amounts of American Gods as presents for basically everyone I know...but I was so looking forward to New York. Oh well. Perhaps next time. Angelina.
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permalink #1714 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:08
permalink #1714 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:08
Tree - I am so sorry... I hope that you find someplace wonderful and immediately available in the time you have.
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permalink #1715 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:11
permalink #1715 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:11
Did some laundry, hit the gym, and got some sleep, and am past my cold. woohoo! I tried to find the Moulin Rouge soundtrack last night, but HMV Herald Square didn't have it (or didn't have it new releases, or soundtracks, and *that* threw me sufficiently). Looking forward to a night of revising now. Tree and Erynn- I feel the same way about television and movies, and had that thought watching Moulin Rouge; during that Gichy-Gichy number, the speed and cuts were near seizure-inducing. I've been working in the production end of commercials for the past year; I've thought it's a good stepping stone, but, well, I think it's getting time to move on... It was interesting when Unbreakable came out, to see that many reviewers actually noted that some of the scenes were shot in one take, on one camera, as in the hospital, and on the train. Len- I wish I had days like that. I'm looking for reasons to stay in NYC. I *loved* the Cloisters, and am probably going back within the next couple of weeks. What was the play you mentioned? I'd love to see it, and wondered where I could get tickets. Tori-bat- Good to hear from you! Glad the job is going well. Tree- Positive moving vibes your way! Neil- I'm very happy! I returned to my desk (after learning about new film shooting [24p digital]), and found Live at the Ambassadors on my desk! Woohoo! -Will, who must now decide whether he will revise or watch Eddie Izzard tonight, and is really hoping to do both.
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permalink #1716 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:12
permalink #1716 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:12
And I forgot to say that we in NY will miss you, Angelina.
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permalink #1717 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:31
permalink #1717 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:31
Len, no, neither of the Odins in American Gods are the one in Sandman. And the only reference to a Sandman character is a tiny one in a San Francisco park, and it may not even be her.
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permalink #1718 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:33
permalink #1718 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:33
Toribat -- get Jon or Linda to forward an e-mail from you to me: there's a party in Lexington that night that might be fun, and I'll put you in touch with the host. (I won't be there. I'll be signing in dayton.)
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permalink #1719 of 2008: JaNell (jonl) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:43
permalink #1719 of 2008: JaNell (jonl) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:43
Email from JaNell: Hi, Tori Bat! So, you're from Knoxville. If you'd like to meet another poster in person, drop by the 11th St. Espresso House some saturday night. Just ask for me. JaNell
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permalink #1720 of 2008: Tori Bat (jonl) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:45
permalink #1720 of 2008: Tori Bat (jonl) Tue 5 Jun 01 09:45
Email from Tori Bat: Bill^2--> ah my idea of fun is anything interesting and can be exciting for 4 very different people! *laugh* I think just someplace to eat that has alot of atmosphere and stuff would be nice... my friends and I are staying over that night so I'm looking for something to do after the signing. Erynn--> Hi! *smile* italian food is yummy...but my favorite right now is Indian~ there's a great little place here. and I'm very close to just moving in there! haha Tree--> I'm sorry to hear about the eviction stuff. that would send anyone, even mary poppins into a bad mood! I hope you find an answer to your living problems soon! ok--> I'm going to grab some breakfast and go to work! *laugh* I told a friend of mine that I am giving my dad all of my paychecks...and he said: "why? do you owe him money?" --> well I bet after almost 22 years I owe my parents A LOT of money but...I'm just contriubting to our little house hold. anyway--> don't want to be late. *HUGS* Tori Bat!
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permalink #1721 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 5 Jun 01 10:46
permalink #1721 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 5 Jun 01 10:46
Heya wellians :) I'm on lunch break from a meeting, and wanted to give *hugs* and report that the wedding was gorgeous, I was shocked when Chicago was abouy 20 degrees *colder* than Dublin had been, and that after 3 hours of both of us waiting in exactly the wrong place the Backflip Boy and I did eventually locate one another at the evil known as O'Hare International Airport and I am (mostly) over my jetlag :) Travel Tip #1: If you're ever planning on vacationing in the vicinity of Castlebridge, Wexford, stay at the Maple Lodge if you can. It is a lovely B&B and Margaret and Eammon are just the best hosts in the world. Travel Tip #2: If you're ever planning on vacationing in Dublin, and get a room at the Temple Bar hotel, make sure that it is NOT one that faces onto Fleet Street, because as a trendy part of town their are very noisy young people just outside your windows who will be laughing, shouting, and occasionally even screaming until about 4am every night/morning... Travel Tip #3: If you ever fly into Terminal 5 at the aforementioned O'Hare, make sure you tell your loved one(s) to meet you outside the Aer Lingus *ticket counter*, rather than anywhere else in the area that they might go to instead, such as down by baggage claim or, say, anywhere near customs... It may save you 3 hours of sitting outside in the cold, having visions of said loved one(s) dead in a ditch by the time you reach the 3rd hour of waiting. On the up side, I did have time to read most of "The Commitments" and a chunk of a very funy book called "Aberystwyth Mon Amour" that is particularly entertaining if you're a Chandler fanatic who is also vaguely familiar with Wales... Okay, I go back to work now :)
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permalink #1722 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 5 Jun 01 11:56
permalink #1722 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 5 Jun 01 11:56
Somewhere there is a bulletin board of lost posts.
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permalink #1723 of 2008: -N. (streak) Tue 5 Jun 01 12:07
permalink #1723 of 2008: -N. (streak) Tue 5 Jun 01 12:07
Heh. Run by L00z3N, presumably?
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permalink #1724 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 5 Jun 01 12:09
permalink #1724 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 5 Jun 01 12:09
Most likely, it would be found via the internet connection available from Lucien's library.
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permalink #1725 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Tue 5 Jun 01 12:11
permalink #1725 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Tue 5 Jun 01 12:11
Darn it, Bill_2, you beat me to it.
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