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Topic 105: Peter Asmus - Reaping the Wind, and special guest Randy Tinkerman
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Peter Asmus - Reaping the Wind, and special guest Randy Tinkerman
permalink #251 of 318: windblowne (satyr) Tue 17 Apr 01 09:25
permalink #251 of 318: windblowne (satyr) Tue 17 Apr 01 09:25
Given that time is as short as it is, there's another approach that should be considered... >news.2672: News about Energy >news.2672.946: settled dogma (satyr) Mon 16 Apr 01 13:33 > > Want people to keep their air-conditioners off this summer, put tents > (tops only) up in public places and make sure that kids are free to run > lemonade stands and frolic in the spray from an occasional fire hydrant. > Encourage employers to institute dress codes that allow shorts and > short-sleeve shirts. Make sure all beaches are well staffed and open. > Encourage churches and other community organizations to sponsor outdoor > acitivities one evening per week. Set up lounges in the basements of > public buildings and keep them open until 10:00pm or so. > > Just setting up televisions in shady spots, close enough together so they > could switch channels by walking down the block or across the park, so > people could stay out of the heat without missing their favorite shows > would help some, partly by keeping some sets at home off. > > The way to beat the power shortage is to treat it as an opportunity to > get people out of their holes and interacting with each other.
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permalink #252 of 318: windblowne (satyr) Wed 18 Apr 01 06:22
permalink #252 of 318: windblowne (satyr) Wed 18 Apr 01 06:22
That, to my mind, would be a REAL rebellion - people getting together to reduce their consumption of something that gets radically more expensive as the supply gets short. At least they could make the generating companies strain a little to dummy up a shortage.
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permalink #253 of 318: bumpersticker madness (satyr) Wed 18 Apr 01 07:30
permalink #253 of 318: bumpersticker madness (satyr) Wed 18 Apr 01 07:30
The weasels want ALL your money!
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permalink #254 of 318: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 18 Apr 01 10:46
permalink #254 of 318: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 18 Apr 01 10:46
I saw <spacedebris> on TV last night, billed as a Common Cause Researcher...
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permalink #255 of 318: Peter H. Asmus (spacedebris) Fri 20 Apr 01 09:24
permalink #255 of 318: Peter H. Asmus (spacedebris) Fri 20 Apr 01 09:24
Yes, I guess I was on TV. I headed to Yosemite after a Sacto press conference. What did I say? The report will soon be up on the Common Cause website. It essentiually makes the argument that because the private utilities and big fossil generators give so much campaign money, their concerns are attended to in the political process, while low-income folks and solar energy get the shaft. The 10,000 word plus report may be the beginning of my next energy book. By the way, I'm speaking at a "Sustainble Fairfax" energy forum this Sunday. I may play my "Clean Power" song, but that depends upon wha the scene is like. Happy Earth Day everybody!
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permalink #256 of 318: David Gans (tnf) Fri 20 Apr 01 10:14
permalink #256 of 318: David Gans (tnf) Fri 20 Apr 01 10:14
Happy earth day to you, Peter!
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permalink #257 of 318: Gail Williams (gail) Fri 20 Apr 01 10:45
permalink #257 of 318: Gail Williams (gail) Fri 20 Apr 01 10:45
Yeah! Happy earth day to all of us.
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permalink #258 of 318: windblowne (satyr) Fri 27 Apr 01 10:21
permalink #258 of 318: windblowne (satyr) Fri 27 Apr 01 10:21
Concerning errata in <132>, <136>, <180>, <185>, and <188>... > energy.178.79: settled dogma (satyr) Fri 27 Apr 01 09:15 > > My apologies to any I've mislead in this. > > To recapitulate, (karish) is right that air cannot be liquified at > ordinary temperatures, no matter what pressure is applied, and my > repeated assertion that 3000psi is sufficient to maintain it in > liquid form at room temperature has been ignorant drivel. > > (Sometimes I do tend to get an idea in my head, and, if the > implications are exceptionally advantageous, fail to double check > whether I've gotten it straight in the first place.) > > It's still true that it would be easier to produce liquid air in > Antarctica than just about anywhere else, but it's not true that > pressurized storage can be substituted for cryogenic storage.
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permalink #259 of 318: Peter H. Asmus (spacedebris) Thu 3 May 01 10:34
permalink #259 of 318: Peter H. Asmus (spacedebris) Thu 3 May 01 10:34
Given Bush's idiotic energy strategy, I have to admit CA's Gray Davis doesn't look so bad. STILL, let's see how we consumers feel when the rolling blackouts start this month. Perhaps the most disturbing news is the following. This is something I put together for Home Power magazine: Too Much Solar? From Clint Eastwood, who installed 242 solar PV panels on his Tehama Gold and Country Club near Monterey, to Pulitzer Price winning non-fiction writer Dale Maharidge of Etrolia, who lives off the grid, growing numbers of Californians are turning to the sun to power their homes and businesses. Eastwood, whose support of solar is motivated in large part by his disdain for PG&E, even lobbied Gov. Gray Davis to expand eligibility for net metering to larger system such as his. Doubt if Dirty Harry pulled a gun, but Eastwoods wishes were granted with the signing into law of AB 29X, which makes solar PV systems as large as 1 MW eligible for net metering credits that paid off so well for Olsen. Maharidge in a story published in the New York Times advocated investing $30 billion into solar PV; an amount of money he calculated would add 3,000 MW to Californias grid. If coupled with aggressive energy efficiency measures, he reasoned there would be no blackouts this summer. Folks like Eastwood, Maharidge and Olsen have all helped contribute to a recent boom in solar sales thanks to state financial incentives. Last year, sales of solar PV systems jumped 44 percent; the year before that, the increase was 30 percent. It is expected this level of growth will continue in 2001. In fact, demand for solar PV is so high today that prices are beginning to go up not down. And this could become a public relations problem for the solar PV industry. I attended a meeting of the International Energy Agency in Sacramento in April and heard some disturbing news. The aggressive solar PV promotion campaigns underway in Germany and Japan are sucking up too much of the worlds solar PV production. Since 1994, Japan has installed just over 209 MW of solar PV. Germany has installed 48 MW last year and expects to install another 65 MW this year. All told, Germany expects to have 350 MW of solar PV on-line by 2002. Given that total solar PV installations totaled roughly 200 MW in 1999, it is clear where most of the worlds PV panels are going. A quick look at the total PV panel output of the USs three largest manufacturers (Siemens, 29 MW; BP Solarex, 20 MW; Astrpower, 18 MW) and one can see why the solar shortage is real. A general rule of thumb has been that a doubling of installed capacity results in a 20 percent drop in price. While temporary, the jumps in demand in for solar PV translate into price increases. Hopefully, they will not mirror what has happened in wholesale fossil markets. Some of the rhetoric of representatives from 21 different nations at the IEA gathering had a familiar ring. A representative from Mexico complained that developing nations, up until recently the primary solar PV market, cannot buy any solar panels today. I think we are now witnessing the greed of the solar PV manufacturers, commented another representative of a large municipal utility in California. He complained that a project that was designed by architects to incorporate blue solar panels was suddenly told that only black panels were available. Trying to get anybody to donate a solar PV panels for demonstration purposes is impossible these days, he added. According to IEG, the current shortage is a temporary phenomenon and is really a result of the boom-and-bust nature of the solar and other renewable energy markets over the past decades in the US. The lack of clear, consistent long-term market for these renewable technologies has these small companies struggling to keep up with sudden explosion in demand for these products. The building blocks for a stable long-term market for solar PV and other emerging renewable resources are starting to fall together in California. Legislation passed last year extends the California Energy Commission buy-down funds ($3 per watt for systems below 10 kW; $2.50 for systems above) at the rate of $62 million annually for another ten years. Given that the original budget augmentation for this fund was $54 million over four years (and there were few takers during the first two years), this represents a major coup for the industry. A new solar tax credit of up to 50 percent is moving through the California Legislature, too. Ironically enough, there is an even more important legislation on the horizon in that doesnt include any direct subsidies but would give a greater boost to the industry. This legislation would nearly double the amount of renewable energy in Californias mix by 2010. Given the current political climate, chances of passage are high. With a policy like that in place, international investors could once again look upon California as the worlds premier market for renewable energy technologies. Given the siting constraints that still face large bulk renewable energy facilities, distributed generation such as solar PV would have to be at the center of near-term implementation strategies. A large, stable market in California (some German and Japanese subsidies could end in a couple of years) would make solar a prime investment option choice among the masses. This would drive costs down and build-up manufacturing capacity to meet the demand in developing nations that most need low-cost, renewable energy systems. Passing a 20 percent by 2010 renewable portfolio standard in California would sustain the global market for solar PV. Investments in additional manufacturing capacity, and sales and service jobs, would reflect a long-term market that finally lives up to its promise. The fossil fuel generators have been painted as the bad guys in this energy mess in the West. Lets not let the solar industry slip into bad habits that sabotage its place in the sun. Lets hope buzzwords such as solar bandits never see the light of day.
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permalink #260 of 318: Paul Bissex (biscuit) Thu 3 May 01 14:35
permalink #260 of 318: Paul Bissex (biscuit) Thu 3 May 01 14:35
Thanks for posting that. Reminds me that I should renew my subscription.
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permalink #261 of 318: John Payne (satyr) Sun 6 May 01 10:09
permalink #261 of 318: John Payne (satyr) Sun 6 May 01 10:09
<scribbled by satyr Sun 6 May 01 10:16>
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permalink #262 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Sun 6 May 01 10:16
permalink #262 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Sun 6 May 01 10:16
According to Bottomquark... <http://www.bottomquark.com/article.php?sid=1532>, New Scientist is reporting "German researchers have developed a photovoltaic fiber" that can be woven into fabric and even used in clothing. The URL is... <http://www.newscientist.com/dailynews/news.jsp?id=ns9999618> however New Scientist's server isn't responding at the moment.
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permalink #263 of 318: Alpha 10 (rmt) Thu 17 May 01 10:45
permalink #263 of 318: Alpha 10 (rmt) Thu 17 May 01 10:45
Lost in the debate over the idiocy of the Cheney "plan" is the fact that the voice of the american populace was heard loud and clear. The huge tax breaks for solar/wind/efficiency and hybrid vehicles, including hydrogen fuel-cells, remained as strong as proposed, against serious opposition from the "administration," is because of the overwhelming support from polls. CNN-Gallup last week reported 91% of americans want an emphasis on solar and wind, forcing Bush's hand. What an encouraging sign.
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permalink #264 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Fri 18 May 01 08:52
permalink #264 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Fri 18 May 01 08:52
Conservation of energy: it isn't just a good idea, it's the LAW.
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permalink #265 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Fri 18 May 01 09:05
permalink #265 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Fri 18 May 01 09:05
I hope to hear Jimmy Carter weigh in on the revitalization of nuclear power. Having been trained as a nuclear engineer, he's uniquely well qualified among ex-presidents...and most other politicians...
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permalink #266 of 318: Peter H. Asmus (spacedebris) Sat 19 May 01 08:47
permalink #266 of 318: Peter H. Asmus (spacedebris) Sat 19 May 01 08:47
Yes, there are a few good things in the Bush plan. I read an article how the stocks of fuel cell and solar companies are going up again. But the emphasis on nuclear and fossil fuels is so primitive! I think this plan falls so short of what could be done that it is embarassing. Luckily, it is mobilizing the troops. Bush/Cheney may have done the renewable energy community a favor. There is a growing movement to support public power, on-site renewables, for people and communities to take more control and responsibility for their energy future. I have a new story in The Electricity Journal entitled: "California Crisis: The Best Argument Yet For Wind Power." I'll track down the URL... Whatever happend to Phred? Wondering how this whole fiasco looks to the guy from Oregon? One final question: Will we see any new nukes in the US in the next five years? Does anyone want to wager?
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permalink #267 of 318: Gail Williams (gail) Sat 19 May 01 10:06
permalink #267 of 318: Gail Williams (gail) Sat 19 May 01 10:06
Phred may drop back by here, but one place he has offered a great deal of interesting ongoing commentary is in a topic in <news.> about energy, one of the continually active topics there in that busy "Town Square" of The WELL. It's a high-traffic area, so if you wanted to just follow energy discussions you'd probably want to add news to your list at the end, so you coudl break out of a "see new" tour there without any impact on the rest of your conference rounds. That and use the "forget" option ruthlessly within that conference.
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permalink #268 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Sat 19 May 01 14:09
permalink #268 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Sat 19 May 01 14:09
Or just head for <energy.>, where that topic is linked as <energy.207>.
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permalink #269 of 318: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Sat 19 May 01 14:27
permalink #269 of 318: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Sat 19 May 01 14:27
I'm still around, but this topic seemed kind of dormant, like maybe Randy was off putting up new windmills and Peter was tilting at 'em :) Actually we are involved in a truly ridiculous fight to save the Oregon conservation/renewable/low income fund we passed in the 1999 sessions from a misguided attack by our Democratic friends who think the bill is all about "deregulation" (they like the conservation/renewable money, of course, but they have this primal political need to kill "deregulation", and it has led to an immense amount of totally unnecessary political grief).
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permalink #270 of 318: Gail Williams (gail) Sun 20 May 01 12:18
permalink #270 of 318: Gail Williams (gail) Sun 20 May 01 12:18
The last two days the SF Chronicle has had eye-opening (for me anyway) reports of how spot power demand is manipulated. I'm wondering how this story can get more national awareness and discussion... >According to the accounts of three plant operators, Reliant's >operations schedulers on the energy trading floor ordered them to >repeatedly decrease, then increase output at the 1,046-megawatt >Etiwanda plant. This happened as many as four or five times an >hour. Each time the units were ramped down and electricity >production fell, plant employees watched on a control room >computer screen as spot market energy prices rose. Then came >the phone call to ramp the units back up. <http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2001/05/20/MN121438.DTL> It's not an energy crisis, it's a greed crisis.
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permalink #271 of 318: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 20 May 01 13:36
permalink #271 of 318: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Sun 20 May 01 13:36
I'd say it's good reporting, except that this new evidence seems to be reported now because that's when the state and federal investigations are finishing up. It doesn't take too much effort to report what other people have figured out for you, six months late. And in the meantime hundreds of thousands of well-meaning consumers' conservation efforts are being undermined by a phone call at some power company when the price gets too low.
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permalink #272 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Sun 20 May 01 16:59
permalink #272 of 318: Deus Kapital (satyr) Sun 20 May 01 16:59
I just wanted to say that I saw SNOW blowing almost horizontally this afternoon... ;-)
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permalink #273 of 318: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Mon 21 May 01 04:22
permalink #273 of 318: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Mon 21 May 01 04:22
Those are excellent stories in the Chron; they finally are waking up after months of slumbering on this. Of course, the Chron has been a PG&E mouthpiece for the better part of a century and it was hard for them to shake that role. The evidence isn't lying on the ground all around, bslesins. Most of itr is in confidential files at the dearly departed PX, the ISO, the PUC and the DWR. Thanks to Governor Davis' policy of preventing the public from getting access to public data, the whole environment around this is infused with self-righteous bleating about proprietary data that has made it doubly hard to get at what there is. We're starting to see various companies involved resisting lawful discovery requests and even subpoenas. On the other hand, as Severin Borenstein helpfully reminds every few days, there is a lot of murk out there and it is hard to *prove*, just from the data, that market manipulation and collusion have been going on. That will take corroboration and supporting documents (some of which have already surfaced in the El Paso Merchant matter). This is going to be in the courts for years. Meanwhile, someone has to figure out how to stop the runaway train of gas and electric prices before it sinks the west coast economy this fall.
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permalink #274 of 318: Gail Williams (gail) Mon 21 May 01 11:02
permalink #274 of 318: Gail Williams (gail) Mon 21 May 01 11:02
Whether or not the chron's reporting is innovative, the question is how to get reporters from national media and east coast city newspapers poking after those allegations, so Bush knows everyone's heard them and is investigating them. That would be strategically valuable to all of us.
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permalink #275 of 318: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Mon 21 May 01 13:10
permalink #275 of 318: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Mon 21 May 01 13:10
It's starting to happen, but FERC has been playing cat and mouse with this stuff for two years now and until their hand is forced, nothing short of a 60 Minutes story is going to break it open in the public view. btw, this stuff is what our own <leftjab> is working on in his day job, which is assisting PUC lead counsel Harvey Morris on the gas market manipulation track. The PUC is also working on the electric side where there is emerging evidence of "market power," "gaming" and "strategic bidding." Get used to those terms because you're going to be hearing a lot more about them. And for you California ratepayers, just remember that when your next electric bill show up with that rate increase, the first of many.
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