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Topic 116: New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
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New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
permalink #226 of 406: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Thu 26 Jul 01 11:15
permalink #226 of 406: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Thu 26 Jul 01 11:15
(Yes, yes, I hadn't meant that Neil *said* that all writers were liars so much as he wrote those words into someone's mouth once. That will teach me to hurriedly post Sandman references. ^^)
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New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
permalink #227 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Jul 01 19:44
permalink #227 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Jul 01 19:44
JaNell -- Okay. Yes, I remember him. Rafe -- I would much rather not hand the reader explanations. I know that each reader will read a different book, they bring a different life and a different mind to it. Some are brighter than others. Some simply know more. I want to write books which (as Gene Wolfe said) can be read with pleasure by an educated reader, and reread with increased pleasure. And I would define educated very broadly. And mysteries linger in ways that explanations never can. (Who can forget the Hound of the Baskervilles? And who can remember quite why that guy painted the dog in luminous paint and sent it out onto the moors?) I've enjoyed talking to people who have recently reread SANDMAN for the first time in 5 years and discovered all this stuff in there they hadn't known about. That's fun, for an author. Or at least, for this one.
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New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
permalink #228 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Jul 01 19:50
permalink #228 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Jul 01 19:50
BTW -- talking about Kevin Crossley-Holland (as we were some posts back) I just read his wonderful book ARTHUR: THE SEEING STONE, which I cannot recommend too highly. Astonishingly good book, which kept me company on the plane from vancouver to minneapolis.
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New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
permalink #229 of 406: Rafe Colburn (rafeco) Fri 27 Jul 01 20:25
permalink #229 of 406: Rafe Colburn (rafeco) Fri 27 Jul 01 20:25
I imagine that figuring out who the forgotten god is will be a mystery I ponder for quite some time.
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New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
permalink #230 of 406: Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Sat 28 Jul 01 00:55
permalink #230 of 406: Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Sat 28 Jul 01 00:55
Gah... the god that folks forget is driving me batty... keep thinking one then then another and almost at a loss for options. *sighs* attempted all the things that are considered Vegas then looked in that manner... keep going back to dreams.
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permalink #231 of 406: Rafe Colburn (rafeco) Sat 28 Jul 01 08:00
permalink #231 of 406: Rafe Colburn (rafeco) Sat 28 Jul 01 08:00
I probably knew who he was at one time ... :)
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New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
permalink #232 of 406: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 28 Jul 01 11:59
permalink #232 of 406: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 28 Jul 01 11:59
The god that god forgotten had something in common with information that Wednesday gave Shadow, in that Wednesday would tell him, and Shadow would immediately forget. What can we deduce from that?
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permalink #233 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 28 Jul 01 22:28
permalink #233 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 28 Jul 01 22:28
That Wednesday kept slipping Shadow ice cubes made from Lethe(al) water in his drinks? :)
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permalink #234 of 406: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 29 Jul 01 01:47
permalink #234 of 406: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 29 Jul 01 01:47
That was "got" forgotten up there, of course. I just want to weigh in on the side of being happy that Neil gives slippery sideways answers to direct questions. Having to look into things myself has led to some very serendipitous moments.
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permalink #235 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 29 Jul 01 06:05
permalink #235 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 29 Jul 01 06:05
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New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
permalink #236 of 406: Kelly (kellyhills) Sun 29 Jul 01 09:34
permalink #236 of 406: Kelly (kellyhills) Sun 29 Jul 01 09:34
*blinks slowly* Where was Buddha? Anywhere? No where? Why (or not)?...
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permalink #237 of 406: JaZilla (goldennokomis) Sun 29 Jul 01 09:41
permalink #237 of 406: JaZilla (goldennokomis) Sun 29 Jul 01 09:41
(snickering) "Another 'Forgotten God'"?
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permalink #238 of 406: Stuart (sjs) Sun 29 Jul 01 18:42
permalink #238 of 406: Stuart (sjs) Sun 29 Jul 01 18:42
I am enjoying 'American Gods.' It's funny how some of the book's little things catch my attention. I enjoy the TV references (I caught myself drifting off on a tangent wondering whether or not Shadow would feel differently about the TV character offering to strip for him if it had been Laura Petrie rather than Lucy Ricardo). One of my favorite lines in the book was when Shadow and/or Mr. Town, thinking about 'Get Smart' for some reason, thought he "still feels weird and slightly embarassed after all those years about not realizing it was a comedy when he was a kid . . . " In my kidhood, I found the opening credits to 'Get Smart' a bit nightmarish (Agent 86 walking down the hallway with all the unusual doors slamming behind him and just missing him). Neil -- growing up in England, did you see as much American television as it seems you're familiar with, or did you pick it all up from Nick-at-Nite?
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permalink #239 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 29 Jul 01 19:24
permalink #239 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 29 Jul 01 19:24
JaZilla -- not at all. Surely the point about Buddha & co is that they aren't forgotten. They're doing just fine (as Easter claims she is, but isn't), which is why Mr Wednesday isn't looking for them. On the other hand, there are certainly some buddhist deities at Rock City, that everyone spotted... Sorry about irritating you. Stuart -- we get your television. We got our own TV too. Best of both worlds...
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permalink #240 of 406: JaNell, who really should scribble more often (goldennokomis) Sun 29 Jul 01 19:42
permalink #240 of 406: JaNell, who really should scribble more often (goldennokomis) Sun 29 Jul 01 19:42
Neil - No biggie. We covered that already, anyway. :) Oh, are you aware of Moon Shadow, an environmental sustainability living group near Chattanooga? Great parties, and monolithic rock formations, and if you take the time to climb up the cliff at the right time of year, you'll get covered in ladybugs, which is very lovely...
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permalink #241 of 406: Angelina Venti (velvetraisin) Sun 29 Jul 01 20:55
permalink #241 of 406: Angelina Venti (velvetraisin) Sun 29 Jul 01 20:55
JaZilla? Now I am frightened.
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permalink #242 of 406: JaNell, now not in silly mode (goldennokomis) Sun 29 Jul 01 21:07
permalink #242 of 406: JaNell, now not in silly mode (goldennokomis) Sun 29 Jul 01 21:07
Well, that's to warn sharp-eyed people ...;>
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permalink #243 of 406: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 30 Jul 01 11:02
permalink #243 of 406: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 30 Jul 01 11:02
Yes, I did see the Buddhist deities at Rock City (and smiled for it); for some reason it just occured to me now that I'd not actually come across any representations of Buddha. I know the official interview is over, but if you're so inclined... how did you decide which deities were dead or being forgotten, and which were alive and well? Obviously some would be easy to classify in either category, the "official" dead religions such as, oh, Zoroastriansim and the alive and kickin ones like Christianity (I liked the touch with Eostre, as she's not really worshipped, yet still is). But others, say... misc. Buddhist deities, ;-) ... how was that decided? -Kelly
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permalink #244 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:52
permalink #244 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:52
Kelly - now I see what happened. Neil answered your question, but with my name in front... I was so confused.
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permalink #245 of 406: Rebecca Atchison (nefertiti) Mon 30 Jul 01 13:17
permalink #245 of 406: Rebecca Atchison (nefertiti) Mon 30 Jul 01 13:17
>you'll get covered in ladybugs, which is very lovely... Unless you accidently squish one, which is not. Unbelievable reek. We get plagues of them here in the winters, and for months you're afraid to touch anything or walk anywhere. You can't vacuum them either. It's like too much of any good thing, I guess...
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permalink #246 of 406: Angelina Venti (velvetraisin) Mon 30 Jul 01 13:49
permalink #246 of 406: Angelina Venti (velvetraisin) Mon 30 Jul 01 13:49
JaNell--There is a non silly mode? Ladybugs: I like ladybugs as much as the next person, but I was wondering just what makes them so different from other bugs. Why aren't people afraid of them, but they might be afraid of a pretty blue shiny beetle? hrmm... Angelina.
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permalink #247 of 406: Rebecca Atchison (nefertiti) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:15
permalink #247 of 406: Rebecca Atchison (nefertiti) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:15
I suppose it's that they've been cute-ified in song and story. Really you get over the cute thing once you mush one and the reek haunts you for days, or once an entire wall of your home is covered in a swarm, or once you REALLY watch one grab hold of an aphid and lustily chew its head off. I'm rather a green-blue sheeny beetle fan myself.
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permalink #248 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:22
permalink #248 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:22
I actually felt/feel blessed by the ladybugs... but from which diety, I've no idea... Ladybugs are beautiful and cartoonish and friendly, don't bite or sting, and look nothing like at all like roaches. When I was a kid, reading the Bible, I imagined that Satan's attempts to create explained all the nasties in the natural world: God, beetles; Satan, roaches. G, ants; S, fire ants. G, non-poisonous snakes, ivy, dolphins; S, poisonous snakes, poison ivy, sharks and so on. Sort of a failed imitation thing.
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permalink #249 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:25
permalink #249 of 406: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:25
Rebecca, being covered by blue-green shiny beetles *sounds* good in theory, and would look really cool, but it would HURT. I'm not sure I need to be blessed anymore by *that* diety.
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permalink #250 of 406: Rafe Colburn (rafeco) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:29
permalink #250 of 406: Rafe Colburn (rafeco) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:29
Besides, aphids are pests who clearly deserve to have their heads chewed off by ladybugs.
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