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permalink #151 of 282: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 22 Jul 01 12:13
permalink #151 of 282: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 22 Jul 01 12:13
E-mail from Martha Coyote: I always read the blurbs at the front of a book, [no particular reason], and I was struck with Harlan Ellison's quote in the front of the PB of 'The Last Continent'. He got it in a nutshell. "Terry Pratchett is more than a magician. He is the kindest, most fascinating teacher you ever had." Wruite on! Martha
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permalink #152 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Sun 22 Jul 01 14:21
permalink #152 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Sun 22 Jul 01 14:21
To Lisa, via Linda, I didn't know this! Should I know this? Terry
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permalink #153 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Sun 22 Jul 01 14:24
permalink #153 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Sun 22 Jul 01 14:24
To Martha, via Linda I wouldn't trust Harlan on that one. But he was very nice about the Bromeliad Trilogy. Come to think of it, fun though DW is and has been, I'm probably happier with the YA books.. Terry
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permalink #154 of 282: Piers Cawley (pdcawley) Mon 23 Jul 01 05:23
permalink #154 of 282: Piers Cawley (pdcawley) Mon 23 Jul 01 05:23
The research thing... I remember talking to Alan Moore at a signing of The Watchmen, and someone asked him how to become a comics writer. Alan replied that the kid should read. Everything. Not just comics. Especially not comics. I'm not a writer. I don't want to be a writer, but that's advice I'd repeat to everyone.
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permalink #155 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 23 Jul 01 07:04
permalink #155 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 23 Jul 01 07:04
I'm very happy to know that you are going to be writing further on Vetinari. My favorite Vetinari book is Jingo because he gets out of the palace and is in different setting. We see him doing things "off the cuff" so to speak. And find his philosophy for government is just as workable in dealing with the man on the street. I must admit that I laughed out loud at the picture in my head watching him skip and juggle. Your books have inspired me to read about things I'd not read in depth. I bought a book on the Anthromorphic Personifications of Death. Can't remember right off what the actual name of it was and who wrote it but I realized as I read the various personas that people have thought of Death that your Death came from several different places. Here there was the skeleton; there is the dressed in black; and over this way is the scythe and over that way the white horse. Also, in Reaper Man, Death tells Mrs. Flitwick(sp?) that he is famous for dancing. This puzzled me when I read it but in this book, there was a short bit on the Danse Macabre and a light went off to connect to that statement. Also, the author did a piece on Death in modern fiction. She dealt with Piers Anthony and with your Death. This lead me to buy the Piers Anthony book but I can't say I enjoyed it as much as yours. His is too depressing and anxiety and guilt ridden. I enjoyed your YA books and sent The Bromeliad to my sister for my niece and nephew. The Johnny Maxwell's are good also and I have recommended them to people at work who have children. When my grandson gets old enough, I'll give them to my son to read to him.
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permalink #156 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 23 Jul 01 07:47
permalink #156 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 23 Jul 01 07:47
Up there you were saying something about how US businesses often have trouble seeing the rest of the world. I ran into a problem a year or so ago with England. I'd bid on a book on EBay from a person in England. Got it for US $2.00. He wanted a money order. I went to the post office to get a PROPER MO for England and they told me that it would cost me $8.50 for a Pound Sterling money order! To all other countries, it was about $2.00 maximum. I eventually went to a grocery store and bought a general internatinal money order for $1.50 and since he sent me the book with no comments I assume he was able to cash it. But it is sometimes frustrating having to deal with our people over English money exchanges. I do it all the time with Canada and Mexico and don't have near the problems. About the only time I can buy anything from England is via credit card and companies that will convert it - oh, and the English bookstore I buy from accepts my personal checks and invoices me in American Dollars. Do like them.
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permalink #157 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 07:49
permalink #157 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 07:49
Piers, I always advise people to read outside the field they want to work in. I remember once opening a popular fantasy book, one that had been acclaimed, and there was a setnence:'Belike, he will wax wroth.' Right there on the page, where impressionable children could read it and grow up thinking that this was proper fantasy talk. Dreadful. Reading lots of fantasy means you recycle the same old stuff. Terry
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permalink #158 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 07:57
permalink #158 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 07:57
Dodge, The DW Death is doing his job. Some may be some parts of it that are beginning to worry him, but he doesn't have a sense of guilt. Death is pretty much PD, in more senses than one. A good character to write for, though. The money thing always puzzles me. In Europe we grow up knowing that flying one hour in a straight line for much of the compass means you've have to change money. The fact that other nations have other currencies is no big deal -- you just try to get the best exchange rate. It's your banks that seem to be the problem, for some reason. I've heard of huge penalties for the 'crime' of trying to change sterling. It makes no sense in 2001. Terry
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permalink #159 of 282: With catlike tread (sumac) Mon 23 Jul 01 11:46
permalink #159 of 282: With catlike tread (sumac) Mon 23 Jul 01 11:46
I have a paperback copy of Mort. On the back of the dedication page it says "Leslie & Matt's book Indonesia, September 1991" and then "John: Oakland, March 1992" but I am not letting it out of my clutches, so there the record stops. Terry, could you say a little about the strange position in the Uk -- you're a best-selling author, but I gather you still hang out at cons.
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permalink #160 of 282: With catlike tread (sumac) Mon 23 Jul 01 11:47
permalink #160 of 282: With catlike tread (sumac) Mon 23 Jul 01 11:47
(And there should be a question mark at the end of that.)
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permalink #161 of 282: Jane Davis (teleri025) Mon 23 Jul 01 12:03
permalink #161 of 282: Jane Davis (teleri025) Mon 23 Jul 01 12:03
Thanks for the encouragement and comments, sorry about the double postings. To Neil Gaiman, I'm in the middle of American Gods and all I can say is "OOOOOOOOOO wow!." I've always gotten the feeling that both of you don't think *all* of your fans are Ubernerds and don't mind us too much. One day, I'll make it to a con in the UK and I would very much love to have one or two books signed, I won't make you do all of them cause that's just abusing one's favorite authors. (especially Mr. Pratchett, you have written so very much and I currently have all but one of your books in hardback and that includes the Johnny Maxwell books and the Bromeliad. Out of curiosity, have either of you read Phillip Pullman's "Golden Compass" ? Thanks again Jane Davis
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permalink #162 of 282: Jane Davis (teleri025) Mon 23 Jul 01 12:03
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permalink #163 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 23 Jul 01 13:52
permalink #163 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 23 Jul 01 13:52
The money thing always puzzles me too. One of my bosses is the Internatinal Attorney for the company and flies to other countries. I never have the problems with her expense reports that I have when she goes to England. And, it's one of the reasons I've had so hard a time getting into the pewter figurines and stuff - actually, I should say thankfully as I'd spend too much money on it if I could do it easily. As for the language - I am reading an Andre Norton book the name of which I can't recall - or maybe it's Anne McCaffrey. At this time I've got some three books open on my bedside table and another one at work. Anyway, they meet a young girl on this space station in the dregs of the place who learned how to talk by watching old Fantasy/SF movies and talks, therefore, like the sentence you wrote up there. The author wrote in her shudders very well.
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permalink #164 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 23 Jul 01 14:02
permalink #164 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 23 Jul 01 14:02
Ah. And next question: Has anyone ever showed up at a book signing carting (and they'd have to use a cart of some kind) ALL of your books and wanting you to sign them all for them? And, yeah, that would be abusing the author, I'd say.
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permalink #165 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 15:18
permalink #165 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 15:18
Catlike treader... Cons can be a bit awkward. Up until 1993 or so I could just go along and hang out at most UK cons, and after things were generally fine, but...how can I put it? Fantasy/sf is, or at least was, held to be a ghetto, and being seen to have got very visibly out of said ghetto can have all kinds of unexpected effects, not always positive. But I go to at least every other worldcon and maybe one or two others a year. It can be weird when the post on the same day includes an invitation to a big posh event (because commercially I'm a 'big' author) and a student convention (because the books are fantasy) and a school (because of the YA books.) These days I just do what seems interesting. And the nice thing is that I can. Terry
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permalink #166 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 15:18
permalink #166 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 15:18
To Jane: "I've always gotten the feeling that both of you don't think *all* of your fans are Ubernerds and don't mind us too much." It's an odd thing, but I once asked my publicist about the fan mail authors got and she said that my mail was pretty sane and, well, nice. From what I gather, it's the mainstream authors that get the creepy stuff. Fans are fine, even the once that once asked me to sign a scythe blade so that she could have the signature etched on it in acid. I mean, it wasn't as if she was waving it about or anything. Most sf/authors come up through fandom in any case, so we kind of understand it. And tours, despite all the jetlag and RSI, are generally fun. Besides, it's not rock 'n roll until you take it on the road. No, I haven't read any of Pullman's stuff. Life is somewhat full.. Terry
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permalink #167 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 15:22
permalink #167 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Mon 23 Jul 01 15:22
Dodge, The record is 67 items. The guy brought a friend to help him(yes, he had a friend!) I did them all, out of morbid fascination, after the queue was finished. They included published interviews and short stories and other minor stuff. But that was back in the mid-90s. I'm a much more focussed person now, and would probably just scream and leap:-) Terry
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permalink #168 of 282: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 24 Jul 01 11:53
permalink #168 of 282: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 24 Jul 01 11:53
E-mail from Donna: Having tumbled on to this string in a typical web-serendipitous manner, I would like first to say a huge ThankYou to Terry! I truly look on every new book as a mind adventure and the well-reread older ones as life savers - a point of sanity in an otherwise insane world. Back to Thief of Time - Bravo, I devoured it in one sitting, and then immediately started over - so I could savor every chocolate bite. I too lament the unavailability of Josh Kirby covers in the US, (stupid americans can't appreciate fine art when they see it) and the general difficulty in finding TP books. I really appreciate the reprints that Harper has done and continues to do, but, would love to find some of the older/oldest titles reissued in Hard Cover. I hesitate to request any one character be given more (equal?) time than any other because they are all so rich and enjoyable. Its like asking do you prefer Chocolate Decadence? or Strawberry Cheesecake for your dessert. Both please! After all, you have to feed both Agnes and Perdita. Terry, you must hear over and over how much you are appreciated and how much your books are enjoyed but just in case you haven't heard it enough, your books are my gift of choice to all my thinking/reading friends. I never sit down with one for very long that I don't find a fantastic passage to read out loud to whichever long suffering family member will put up with me. My all time favorite passage has to be Sir Samuel's viewpoints on the comparitive qualities of sex and cooking. I have to tell you that I have liberally spread that theory around to many people and have yet to find anyone sensible that disagrees with it. - I did americanize it to Cheeseburger with fries though - I hope you can forgive me. One last note, I have had considerable difficulty in finding the young person novels in my area, and have resorted to passing CofM, LF and ER to my 11 yr old daughter, we read them together, and discuss the various layers of meanings and references. While I will never be able to catch them all, I hope that I am passing the ability to look below the surface to her and at least she is gaining a fine appreciation of great humor. My trouble is not in getting her to read your books, but in preventing her from reading some of the more difficult ones too soon. Thank you again, Donna
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permalink #169 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Tue 24 Jul 01 13:26
permalink #169 of 282: Terry Pratchett (tpratchett) Tue 24 Jul 01 13:26
Donna, "I really appreciate the reprints that Harper has done and continues to do, but, would love to find some of the older/oldest titles reissued in Hard Cover." No plans for that, as far as I know. It would be unlikely. "I hesitate to request any one character be given more (equal?) time than any other because they are all so rich and enjoyable. Its like asking do you prefer Chocolate Decadence? or Strawberry Cheesecake for your dessert. Both please! After all, you have to feed both Agnes and Perdita." Not me. You wouldn't get me near cheescake:-) Stand by for more Vimes... "My all time favorite passage has to be Sir Samuel's viewpoints on the comparitive qualities of sex and cooking. I have to tell you that I haveliberally spread that theory around to many people and have yet to find anyone sensible that disagrees with it. - I did americanize it to Cheeseburger with fries though - I hope you can forgive me." Just this once. I was amazed to find McDonalds in New Orleans. I left there in tears knowing I'd probably not visited 99.6% of the heavenly restaurants, and yet people would go out for a Big Mac. But sometimes you just want warm grease with a pickle, One last note, I have had considerable difficulty in finding the young person novels in my area...' To the best of my knowledge, the SFBC still support the Johnny Maxwell trilogy and the Bromeliad. Look out for The Amazing Mauirce (DW *and* YA combined!) in the fall. "My trouble is not in getting her to read your books, but in preventing her from reading some of the more difficult ones too soon." Well now... no one one directed my reading so I grew up reading 'more difficult' books and just filled in my education as I went. It seemed to work. I'd let her make her own way (although be prepared to explain what Nanny Ogg is talking about...:-) Terry
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permalink #170 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Tue 24 Jul 01 13:54
permalink #170 of 282: Dodge (hnowell) Tue 24 Jul 01 13:54
Nanny Ogg can be hard to explain to a somewhat knowledgeable adult. I think a lot of stuff like that goes over a child's head. I remember reading things when I was much younger (older books they said) which I didn't pay much attention to - until I read it when I got older. Of course, children learn those grown up things much younger these days but it would be a good place to start teaching about stuff you're going to have to tell them one day. Which brings to mind another question: How much did you have to do with the Nanny Ogg Cookbook? Are we ever going to get the passages that were covered by memo notes?
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permalink #171 of 282: Bob 'rab' Bickford (rab) Tue 24 Jul 01 14:20
permalink #171 of 282: Bob 'rab' Bickford (rab) Tue 24 Jul 01 14:20
>preventing her from reading some of the more difficult ones Any parent that presumes to do this should be publically humiliated to within an inch of their life. The alleged "difficulty" of reading materials should be the *last* thing on any parent or guardian's mind. Appropriateness of content given the child's age and emotional maturity, maybe. Use of complex grammar and vocabulary, absolutely *NOT*. For one thing, the kid probably understands a lot more than you'd ever be willing to believe. For another thing, the way one learns those things is by encountering them, and withholding that experience is just cruel.
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permalink #172 of 282: Valerie (valerie-m) Tue 24 Jul 01 14:48
permalink #172 of 282: Valerie (valerie-m) Tue 24 Jul 01 14:48
Be nice, rab. But. I can speak to the joys of reading books that were too old for me when I was a kid and being able to discover all the stuff that just went over my head as a kid when I reread as an adult. Sadly, my eleven year old just can't get half the stuff I hand him and is starting to distrust my recommendations. My nine year old is a big fan of Susan though.
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permalink #173 of 282: Bob 'rab' Bickford (rab) Tue 24 Jul 01 15:03
permalink #173 of 282: Bob 'rab' Bickford (rab) Tue 24 Jul 01 15:03
*grumble* Well, okay, I'll be nice. It's just that I remember having to sneak access to books that were supposedly "too difficult" for me when I was in grade school, and I later turned out to be one of the "gifted" students and then everyone fell all over themselves to make sure I had anything at all that I wanted to read. I'm quite sure that many many kids could read more than the parents/teachers will 'let' them if only given a chance. Of course, every kid develops at a different rate, as witness your eleven and nine year olds. I've got nothing at all against the sort of careful parent who doesn't try to get their kid to read a book that's way out of reach -- I can see where that could be just as bad for the kid as trying to keep them away from something they want to try reading.
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permalink #174 of 282: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 24 Jul 01 15:16
permalink #174 of 282: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 24 Jul 01 15:16
From donna@arecompany.com Tue Jul 24 15:12:30 2001 Date: 24 Jul 2001 21:48:36 UT E-mail from Donna: Well having been gently chided by the author and thouroughly castigated by Mr. Bob Rabid, I still say --- that having provided my just turned 11 year old daughter with the first 3 DW novels, and having then read through them and answered her questions honestly, I do have the privelege? of being allowed to make a judgement call over what I feel she is emotionally and intellectually ready for as far as "adult" fiction is concerned. Since I did generalize under the term "difficult" when grouping the other books together I suppose I opened myself up for Public Humiliation within an inch of my life - that having been stated, I still believe that just as you would not burden a child with a 60Lb. suitcase to carry, you don't necessarily need to expose them to the full spectrum of innuendo and adult themed dialogue either. And, no, I don't let my kids watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Dawson's Creek. They are growing up fast enough - and I think that maybe, just maybe, she ought to read Alice Through The Looking Glass before she reads Witches Abroad -- what do you think?
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permalink #175 of 282: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 24 Jul 01 15:17
permalink #175 of 282: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 24 Jul 01 15:17
More e-mail from Donna: changing the subject away from 11 year olds, I just called my local inde store to find out about the new rereleases - and we are finally going to have Guards Guards! --- its been out of print here in the states for what over 10 years? -- really looking forward to that and to "The Last Hero" as well
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