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Topic 125: The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
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The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
permalink #351 of 2008: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Sat 3 Nov 01 22:04
permalink #351 of 2008: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Sat 3 Nov 01 22:04
Heard a horrible rumor that Nick Cage might play John Constantine in the Hellblazer movie. My response was...[*] Yep, brain fart. Speaking of movies, "From Hell" made me very happy to have read the book. I had no expectations and wasn't disappointed. Too bad it couldn't have been done as a 12 part mini-series. *sigh*
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permalink #352 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Sat 3 Nov 01 22:17
permalink #352 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Sat 3 Nov 01 22:17
Constantine, hmm. So what's Sting doing, after he finishes the cameo in LoTR? Frodo: "I shall call my weapon . . . Sting!" Sam: "Uh . . . I shall call my weapon . . . The Edge!" But I digress. Alex Jennings comes to mind, as does Phil Daniels. Neither is the perfect physical image, but I think either would do well, particularly Daniels, unless he's aged more than I recall. (It's been a while since QUADROPHENIA.) Sean Bean comes to mind, too; he's better known, which the studio would probably want.
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permalink #353 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Sat 3 Nov 01 22:58
permalink #353 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Sat 3 Nov 01 22:58
Erin: Tori songs I play over and over and over again are Here in My head, Sugar, Upside Down, Father Lucifer, Home On The Range, Famous Blue Raincoat, Honey, Black Swan, Daisy Dead Petals, Twinkle, Happy Phantom, and Bells For Her. And as I have compield this list, it occurs to me that I should make a mix cd for work, so I don't have to lug 10 cds with me... yay! Dan Guy; I NEED Bruce Campbell's book, because he brings me joy. Is it called "If Chins Could Kill"? I remember chins being involved... I remember the Confessions of a B-Movie actor part... Mike: I second you on Sean Bean. Woo. Roxanne: The only other part Nick Cage couldn't be wrong-er for would be Superman... Eeeg. I don't care if he is a Coppola, the only movie I've ever seen where I liked him was "Raising Arizona." I still will never forgive my kid sister for forcing me to sit through a matinee of "Snake Eyes" when I could have spent those two hours happier lying on a bed of nails while a dwarf dance the samba on my abdomen. What a waste of Gary Sinese. If I could whap anyone with my magic casting stick that is blind to box office projections, it would be Calum Keith Rennie. Sure, he's tall, and has lost his accent, living in Canada. But he's almost exactly who I picture as John. And he's got a lot of range, at least based on what I've seen in Hard Core Logo, Double Happiness, and Last Night. If you've never seen HCL, I highly recommend it. It's a fake documentary about a fake punk band reuinitng to tour across Canada (and it features the calssic road trip game, "Fake Canadian band Names" of which, my fave will always be "Faster Leonard Cohen, Kill Kill") tho word of warning--it is a bit, erm... intense. "Spinal Tap" this is NOT. But it's my fave Canadian movie next to "The Sweet Hereafter" and "The Red Violin." So make of that what you will.
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permalink #354 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Sat 3 Nov 01 23:38
permalink #354 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Sat 3 Nov 01 23:38
Tara O'Shea am very silly. Mike--you am even sillier. My neighbors think I'm nuts 'cause I sit here laughing out loud by myself at 1:30 a.m. However, I'm with you on Sting. How about Sean Pertwee? John's son, was Hugh Beringar in the first season of Brother Cadfael? He even owns a production company w/Ewen & Jude. And Tara O' Shea knows from Canadian movies, too, as witnessed by her showing me "Love & Human Remains" earlier this evening. Hey, Neil--did you see Sweeney earlier this week? What did you think? Mary (who loved The Last Hero--Paul Kidby rocks)
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permalink #355 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sat 3 Nov 01 23:45
permalink #355 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sat 3 Nov 01 23:45
Heh - Mars just went out and bought a Tori folio this evening; Past The Mission has been playing off and on for the last three hours now. Oddly, not annoying. Oh and Mike? That's just bad,... My weird question of the moment - do any of you, offhand, have an audio recording of Brust saying "Loiosh"? :-) (Answers of yes will have me asking to hear it.) -Kelly, who'd really like to hear Mike MST3K LOTR (or any other movie, she thinks,...)
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permalink #356 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 4 Nov 01 00:18
permalink #356 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 4 Nov 01 00:18
Streak -- well, I've read the script -- or *A* script anyway, for CONSTANTINE (which was not bad, although the one I read had a rip-off of the Corinthian in it, which did not impress me) and he was definitely an American in the script -- his dear old estranged dad was dying in Brooklyn, if I remember correctly. Magic Casting Powers? That has to include anybody, anywhen... For me, John Constantine when younger looked like Sting in BRIMSTONE AND TREACLE, but if I could have anyone in the whole world play him, it would probably be Michael Caine circa THE MAN WHO WOULD BE KING.
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permalink #357 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 4 Nov 01 01:35
permalink #357 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 4 Nov 01 01:35
Closing night of stagewalker's show was good, except for a plummeting apple in the middle of the Negri piece which some guy was sagely explaining to his two female friends, during intermission, represented Eve and temptation, of course.
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permalink #358 of 2008: Faintly Macabre (johannabobrow) Sun 4 Nov 01 07:22
permalink #358 of 2008: Faintly Macabre (johannabobrow) Sun 4 Nov 01 07:22
When I told my sister about this Well thing, she made me promise to ask this question, though I told her I wasn't sure it would get answered. So to save myself from being beat up when I go home next: The introduction to "Queen of Knives" states that it is "close enough to the truth the I have had, on occasion, to explain to some of my relatives that it didn't really happen. Well, not like that, anyway." So if it didn't happen like that, what really did happen?
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permalink #359 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sun 4 Nov 01 09:15
permalink #359 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sun 4 Nov 01 09:15
For those who didn't catch the show.. the apple Martha mentioned was tied to a string, high above the stage, because it lowered and was a pivotal prop piece for the Chekhov story at the end of the show. Having an apple drop from the lighting grid in the middle of a totally unrelated story is the kind of thing that makes live theatre just so darned interesting! I'd like to second the interest in the Queen of Knives story, Neil...
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permalink #360 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 4 Nov 01 10:27
permalink #360 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 4 Nov 01 10:27
It was a really loud apple. I jumped in my seat, but astonishingly the actors on stage didn't flinch at all.
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permalink #361 of 2008: Faintly Macabre (johannabobrow) Sun 4 Nov 01 11:22
permalink #361 of 2008: Faintly Macabre (johannabobrow) Sun 4 Nov 01 11:22
Oh, and since I haven't really posted here before -- hi Martha. You probably don't remember me, but I had lunch with you this past July, in a little Mexican place with Lenny (who says hi too). Nice to see you, virtually at least.
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permalink #362 of 2008: Jo Simons (josparrow) Sun 4 Nov 01 12:10
permalink #362 of 2008: Jo Simons (josparrow) Sun 4 Nov 01 12:10
Sean Bean is HOT. sorry, that was an uncontrollable teenage fangirl response that emerged uncalled-for from my lower subconscious. We will now return you to your regular broadcast. Yay for all those, reintroduced to the happiness of being in love. Gotta lurve lurve. I saw "The Last Hero" in three bookshops yesterday. It is hardback and it is beautiful and it is also 60 NZD <weeps smally>. Maybe Christmas will be lucky ... Jo who played soccer yesterday for the first time in a month and is stiff in the most crazy muscles
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permalink #363 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 4 Nov 01 18:00
permalink #363 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 4 Nov 01 18:00
Hi, Johanna--
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permalink #364 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Sun 4 Nov 01 18:22
permalink #364 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Sun 4 Nov 01 18:22
Dan -- but Chekhov is famous for saying that if you have an apple hanging from the fly tower, it -has to- drop into the lighting grid before the third-act curtain. Most people think Chekhov said something about a gun, but then most people think Chekhov is the one who isn't Sulu.
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permalink #365 of 2008: The iguana will bite those who do not dream. (johannabobrow) Sun 4 Nov 01 21:36
permalink #365 of 2008: The iguana will bite those who do not dream. (johannabobrow) Sun 4 Nov 01 21:36
I just saw a very interesting movie that reminded me of Sandman, though it could be because I just re-read the whole series in one gulp. But it does share a certain topicality, which is why I'm posting here. It's called "Waking Life", and I'm pretty sure I liked it. It was worth seeing, at any rate. Since it's mostly a 2-hour occasionally lucid dream, describing it is a bit difficult, but the way the art changed styles shimmeringly over the course of the movie, yet the characters stayed recognizeably themselves reminded me of watching the different artists at work in Sandman. The art was fascinating technically as well -- the movie was shot in digital live-action video, and then a sort of Photoshop technique was used to make it into animation, with various artists using styles of painting to animate the faces and action. So the movements and physics were unlike what you usually see even in realistic animation. It seemed like it was trying too hard sometimes, and I have a limited tolerance for PoMoSpeak. But listening through that, there were some great concepts in there. And the soundtrack was great (at least if you like string quartets and Astor Piazzola, who the soundtrack wasn't by but sounded a lot like. And oh I miss playing string quartets a lot. I need to do something about that.) The best line from the movie is my current pseudonym. The next best I think (in terms of funny quotability that I could write on my arm in the theatre, not deep meaningfulness that I want to think about) was "In the night, I go salsa dancing with my confusion." So: Waking Life, written/directed by Richard Linklater, http://us.imdb.com/Title?0243017 Hope no one minds this long review by someone they don't know...
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permalink #366 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sun 4 Nov 01 22:16
permalink #366 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sun 4 Nov 01 22:16
*blinks slowly* Tired. Photo shoot today - me and two other women, repro-ing classical paintings,... sore. Tired. Feeling pretty and desirable, tho, which is nice... :-) I'll post pictures when we get them, but be warned that they're all partial nudes. (Meep!) One of the photographers is well known in some circles; Sebastian DeLaOsa. Small world sort of thing - he's a newlywed, and his wife was a penpal of 'the' Sunshine for many moons. Interesting story, interesting connections, interesting small world. I'm tired. G'night. :-) -Kelly
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permalink #367 of 2008: the way to a man's heart is through his xiphoid (miss-mousey) Sun 4 Nov 01 22:47
permalink #367 of 2008: the way to a man's heart is through his xiphoid (miss-mousey) Sun 4 Nov 01 22:47
Kelly - I'm impressed with the masks. Wow! And mondo congratulations! I'm supposed to have a photo shoot next weekend. Pretty dresses in dreary cemetaries. Should be silly. Jinx (et al) - Mmmm, kippers. One of the few fishy things I'll still eat. Better than those scary smoked oysters any ole day. (ew) As for fish for breakfast, I'm Japanese; fish is right up there with rice as something I can eat as ANY meal. (uninteresting trivia: the Japanese word for 'rice' is the same as the Japanese word for 'meal'). Dan - Oakland rocks? I'm sorry, do you live in the same city I live in? Hrm. Then again, you probably don't live within three blocks of monthly gun fire like I do. Ahh, the ghetto. :) Pamela said <<You are the fiercest boot-wearin', Neil-stalkin', Devil-Bunny-ownin' mouse in the West.>> - Um, are there others out there who are less fierce? (Ugh, I suddenly concocted a visual of one of my mice in mouse-sized New Rocks... sick and wrong) On another completely sick and wrong note - Jinx's stripper remark, followed by Jen B's dancing as a threat to make everyone well remark somehow reminded me that as a go-go dancer, I used to make people feel better, and then much much worse (best way to get rid of the icky drooley frat boys is to sneer at them and walk off the platform with the cute girl on your arm) Adriana (cheerleader of love!) - Um, yeah, what you said. Go love! Especially when it presents itself in quirky little manifestations that might seem insignificant to just anyone else, but thus hold more value to you. Ah sentimentality! I mean, that's a loverly necklace you have on. :) Ack, I need sleep - long commute tomorrow, as I've done something stupid (tm) and promised someone that I wouldn't drive across the bay bridge *OR* take BART to the City tomorrow morning... which means a very long drive halfway around the bay during rush hour traffic. squeaks, whose hair hurts 13 hours later.
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permalink #368 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 4 Nov 01 23:04
permalink #368 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 4 Nov 01 23:04
Hey squeaks, you gonna shoot at Mountain View Cemetery at the end of Piedmont?
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permalink #369 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 4 Nov 01 23:40
permalink #369 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 4 Nov 01 23:40
Johanna -- well, it depends which bit; there's true family stuff, and true grandparents stuff in there, and there's stuff I made up as well. In reality, for example, I never mislaid my grandmother, and she outlived my grandfather... The comedian was a man named Harry Worth. And I got a message from my son Mike telling me I have to see Waking Life. If memory serves, Mr Linklater is a fan (I seem to remember somone giving me Slackers at a signing from him.) Mike -- are you saying that all along, Sulu and Chekov were the same person? (Sudden flashback to seeing Shampoo as a young man just before I knew I needed glasses, and being unable to tell any of the women bonking Warren Beatty apart.) ... Suspect the inner world and the outer are reflecting each other right now. Still sick, although less so, while the libretto's Windows 2000 just got a blue screen of death while booting problem, of the kind that, several hours research tends to indicate, doesn't go away with anything but reinstalling Windows 2000. And while I'll not lose any writing, I will lose hundreds of unanswered e-mails, and the FAQ messages... so will spend more time figuring how to get some kind of disk access before I let it die.
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permalink #370 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 5 Nov 01 00:10
permalink #370 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 5 Nov 01 00:10
Damn. I'm glad you didn't lose any writing though.
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permalink #371 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 5 Nov 01 04:39
permalink #371 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 5 Nov 01 04:39
Tara -- That's the one! It's a thoroughly enjoyable book. Have a good Guy Fawkes day, all.
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permalink #372 of 2008: The iguana will bite those who do not dream. (johannabobrow) Mon 5 Nov 01 07:30
permalink #372 of 2008: The iguana will bite those who do not dream. (johannabobrow) Mon 5 Nov 01 07:30
Neil -- Thanks for the answer about the Queen of Knives. I will pass it along to my sister. And I'd be interested in hearing what you think of Waking Life if/when you see it... Sorry to hear about your computer issues. Does this mean I should assume email I sent to you last week has vanished into the luminiferous ether? Hoppy Monday, everybody!
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permalink #373 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Mon 5 Nov 01 10:15
permalink #373 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Mon 5 Nov 01 10:15
Neil, sorry about computer madness. It seems to be a common plague. If I lived near you, I'd send my brilliant computer husband over to help. If there's any tech support you need, he and his cousin Chuck, who is Windows certified, would love to be of service. Well it looks like we'll be playing again, this time an acoustic set, on sunday, but it might have to be cancelled as I just learned my grandmother is in hospital with a stroke and I may have to fly to New Mexico to be with her. Please light a candle for her! -Adriana
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permalink #374 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 5 Nov 01 10:44
permalink #374 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 5 Nov 01 10:44
Beams to you and your grandmother.
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permalink #375 of 2008: salsa dancing with my confusion (pamela-bird) Mon 5 Nov 01 11:16
permalink #375 of 2008: salsa dancing with my confusion (pamela-bird) Mon 5 Nov 01 11:16
Jen: You're not alone about picking and choosing on the posts thing. I should probably limit my responses more than I do, since I so rarely have anything meaningful to add. Not that that's entirely stopped me. Obviously. Johanna: Welcome. People who *do* have interesting things to say, though--such as yourself--should, must, are sincerely requested to post long, pseud-able reviews and yummy Things-for-Thingies. <squeaks>: Nope. You're one of a kind. I was just ineptly expressing my admiration for your post on FROM HELL and your posts in general. They're always full of good stuff. Everyone posting about Tori music: We are, umm... <deep breath, mini-pep talk to self>... about to try to buy a house. (Scary big-people type commitment thing.) One of the good things about this, I'm hoping, is that we'll finally have room for the piano my mom keeps wanting to ship to me. You've all inspired me to run out and get Tori songbooks if/when it gets here. Adriana: Thinking of you and your grandmother.
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