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Topic 125: The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
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The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
permalink #826 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:02
permalink #826 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:02
Johanna~I had a Harlan-hitting-on-me dream a few weeks before MadCon, and he declared me dead to him almost immediately upon meeting him. Never did see him on my doorstep... ; > Oh, the shocking car... My GEO did that to me. But I have a weird effect on electrical objects, anyway...
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permalink #827 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:09
permalink #827 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:09
Have at last converted Kevin (my husband) to Neildom by the simple tactic of reading GOOD OMENS in front of him and laughing so hard that I couldn't breathe, except in tiny gasps between laughing wheezes. I like to think that kicking my feet on the couch and shaking my hands frantically in the air helped, too, but he's not so easily impressed. ObTree: And he didn't even wait until I was finished with the book before he started reading it. Ninave: >Personally, my theory is that when Neil wants to go >incognito he wears a white tee short, blue colored blue jeans and a >tweed blazer. That's hysterical. That's exactly what I've thought. JaNell: CONGRATS! on your new washer! I completely understand your stunned rapture. Our current incarnation of chaos and anarchy disguised as an appliance is the rebuilt washer we bought a few years ago, which we have to sit on occasionally during the spin cycle to keep it from breaking itself. Just another thought on the tee shirts: Jouni might be willing to do the artwork, and I'm sure it'd be fabulous. Re: "WellPern"--what Mousey said.
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permalink #828 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:16
permalink #828 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:16
Pamela, Ninave~ No, that's that nice Mr. Gaimna y'all are thinking of...
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permalink #829 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:17
permalink #829 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:17
Michelle, I'm glad it made it to you, although I'm sorry it's bent. I should've sent it in a box instead. JaNell, try to wear that sucker out my next year, so you can get a newer model! I'm watching my brother's football game, having opted to stay home instead of going to Michigan to see it. Now I'm kicking myself, because he scored his first college career touchdown!! I'm sooooo proud of him. He's had a lot of really bad things happen to him this year, and he didn't deserve any of it. But instead of letting it break him, he's fighting like crazy to do what he loves to do. It's really wonderful to be able to see his strength and his will and everything pay off. Growing up, I always felt like the odd girl out because my family is very sports-oriented, and I never liked sports. At all. But I'm glad I paid attention to things, because now I can appreciate what my brother has had to do to get where he is. Er . . . this is totally irrelevant to anything anyone's posted, but I am so happy for him, I just can't stop going on about it.
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permalink #830 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:48
permalink #830 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sat 24 Nov 01 15:48
Maure~go on at will. Your brother is happy and doing great and I'm glad you got to see it. As for wearing it out, that's where I'm headed; through the rain and Vols traffic to the coffee shop to write. I figure, if Cam thinks enough of my writing to get me a G3 iBook, and my Gregory Bateson reading writer friend Kevin tells me to skip the magazines, and go for a small book with my allegories, then I bow to their wisdom. The rain is welcomed, though; it should put an end to our annual post-Halloween arson-induced forest fires that have been making Knoxville smell and leaving occasional smoke thick as fog all around town for weeks. As if the acid rain hasn't destroyed enough of the Smokies.
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permalink #831 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Sat 24 Nov 01 18:47
permalink #831 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Sat 24 Nov 01 18:47
Johanna, re: Harlan dreams, it must work opposite as well. I never once had a Harlan dream, but last time I saw him, he found a way to embarrass me completely by complimenting parts of my anatomy. At least he wasn't chiding me on my massive hips. ;)
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permalink #832 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 24 Nov 01 19:25
permalink #832 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 24 Nov 01 19:25
The first time I met Harlan he was complimenting anatomical parts of the woman sitting at the next table, but I can't tell you that story because the last time I did I got a letter from his lawyer. But you can always use your imagination. Mike's Taurus, Fernando, always shocks me when I ride in it, so I always drive my car, Otto, instead. Barking Mad Poker was way fun and I especially enjoyed giving the Endless poker chips to play with. My thanks to Dan for hosting. Dan, you have many wonderful toys. Michelle, we don't hate Kurt, not at all. Please tell him I hope I didn't leave a bruise when I punched him.
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permalink #833 of 2008: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Sat 24 Nov 01 22:34
permalink #833 of 2008: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Sat 24 Nov 01 22:34
squeaks - WELLpern making you scan the skies for thread: yes, that was my reaction initially too. I am somewhat bemused to find that there is no astrology conf on the WELL. (I was looking for information on what a stellium was, and whether if a person has eight things within 30 degrees, that's as intense as it sounds. The whole thing has me blinking rapidly at the moment.)
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permalink #834 of 2008: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Sat 24 Nov 01 23:06
permalink #834 of 2008: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Sat 24 Nov 01 23:06
There's an astrology topic in the spirituality conf. FYI.
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permalink #835 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Sat 24 Nov 01 23:44
permalink #835 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Sat 24 Nov 01 23:44
Squeaks--Exactly. Waaay too much Anne McAcffrey in my formative years (as if there could be such a thing). Maure--yay for your brother! I'm not much of a sports fan either, but I was in band in high school & college & I'm from the South, so I know what you mean about having seen enough of it to understand how much hard work goes into playing on that level. Neil--How is Maurice? Last Hero was delightful--it's so nice to have so much Terry all at once (hint, hint). You've just reminded me that I must go pick up a copy (see? Some of us *will* buy two books by the same author within weeks of each other...;-) ) You have my permission to share this post with your publisher, if you wish ;-) V., v., jealous of Barking Mad poker. Glad y'all had fun! Stagewalker--I don't get the desire to assume someone else's identity in real life, either. I have my own. When I work (act) it's a form of creation. It takes all my time and energy and concentration. And I want the audience to appreciate what they're seeing, dammit! "Fooling" them isn't all there is to it. There are a lot of messed up people in this world, though. And a lot of them end up actors for exactly these reasons--wanting to be someone else 24-7. Sad. OK, don't know why I went on that diatribe, exactly, except Dan hit a nerve. As an actor, you'd think I'd be more sympathetic, but liars *really* piss me off. That poor kid. And poor Neil, stuck having to tell her. Because some sick jerk thought it would be *fun*. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his/her tent. Perpetually. Am a little over halfway through From the End of the Twentieth Century, and think more Alternities stories are a peachy keen idea! Hint, hint! G'night, all!
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permalink #836 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Sat 24 Nov 01 23:45
permalink #836 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Sat 24 Nov 01 23:45
Ooo, forgot--Kelly--great dress!
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permalink #837 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sun 25 Nov 01 00:03
permalink #837 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sun 25 Nov 01 00:03
Lioness, I'm still trying to figure out all that astrology stuff,... sort of. Not really, anymore, except I suddenly find myself around people who know things like what sign is rising, and where the sun and moon and planets are in their sign, and how much of a sign they are,... and then they ask me, and I just look baffled. At least I look baffled well. -Kelly
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permalink #838 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sun 25 Nov 01 01:00
permalink #838 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sun 25 Nov 01 01:00
Dan - No, it means we have to discuss *your* real sex life. :) Madman - see above. :P (it's fun to make jesus squirm!) Maure - Sweetie, no worries. I just wanted the stories in their original form, and my eyes seem to have no problem seeing around the bends (got those funny 'hand' things - you know, with the fingers on 'em? - help keep the pages flat, or turn them while I read). And hooray for your brother - how exciting! Linda - I don't know where to even begin responding to that post... My head goes too many wrong places with the Harlan story. Having an ex- named Fernando really confused me with the car thing. And I'll forward the message to Kurt. Tho' I'm pretty sure you didn't leave any lasting marks, you certainly did your part to stun him with your age. Attention everyone who's reading this - Linda is a wonderful person, but I fear she is a horrid liar. No one looks *that* young for their age (except maybe Rocky, but I have my doubts about her too). Kelly/lioness - signs... hee hee. Someone started asking me about specifics starsign stuff recently and I responded with 'um, I'm... Scorpio... I think'. Pretty much stunted the conversation, I think. squeaks, who really didn't mean to ramble, but I'm still re-establishing trust between me and the laptop (who is of the opinion that I've abandoned her).
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permalink #839 of 2008: haunted by the ghosts of long-dead cookies (rick-baumhauer) Sun 25 Nov 01 10:30
permalink #839 of 2008: haunted by the ghosts of long-dead cookies (rick-baumhauer) Sun 25 Nov 01 10:30
Ninave - you know, I was afraid that my post would come across wrong, but every attempt to re-word it failed. No need to apologize - having the sort of brain that retains pretty much everything trivial (and most things not), I'm sure I've done a similar thing innumerable times in just the last week :) Kelly - Lovely dress! Glad things with you and Mars are going so swimmingly. Johanna - Well, I currently live about an hour outside Boston, but will probably be moving west (Chicopee) in the next couple weeks, as the whole "sharing space with the soon-to-be (but not soon enough!) ex" is wearing very thin. Threadbare, even. Big holes in the knees. And stuff. After the next couple weeks, though, I'd be open to a Boston evening, just to keep the coasts balanced. I'm not much of a card-player, though. Can't even remember the rules to Fish, it seems. Rant on: As many of you know, my current living situation is, uhm, unconventional. It had been going fine, but on Tuesday I was let to know that I shouldn't expect that to continue. So, I started apartment hunting, with an eye toward being out of the current place in a couple weeks. However, I've now been told that I *WILL* be held responsible for my half of the rent and utilities on the current place (unfortunately, it's my name on the lease), which is where we enter economic Fantasy Land. Yeah, I've got that extra X hundred dollars just sitting around every month............Did I mention she wants it up front? So, while it's been agreed that SOMEBODY has to move, and that she can't afford to, if I move out, a pound (or 10) of flesh will be extracted. We had negotiated a monthly sum last night that would at least leave us both financially solvent, but after speaking to her sister-the-lawyer-who-can't-keep-a-job, she's decided to go for the Moon and a lovely piece of land on Venus. With a lot of juggling, I think I can still swing it (more debt - hooray!), but I am one Unhappy Camper. Sorry to unload, but my head feels like it's going to explode (though it's much better than two hours ago). Please, somebody shoot me if I ever mention the thought of getting married again, okay? Rant off..............
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permalink #840 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 25 Nov 01 10:42
permalink #840 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 25 Nov 01 10:42
Rick-It's your apartment; she moves. Period. Or, see if the landlord will let you sublet the whole apartment to her, legally, in writing and all. If you're not living there, turn off whatever is in your name. That's not cruel, that's fair. Y'all are no longer a team, and it sounds like she's not playing nice, so whether or not she can afford whatever is no longer your concern. All of this is assuming that there are no kids involved. That's when it really gets tricky...
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permalink #841 of 2008: Lemon Scented Sticky Dan (stagewalker) Sun 25 Nov 01 10:48
permalink #841 of 2008: Lemon Scented Sticky Dan (stagewalker) Sun 25 Nov 01 10:48
Mary - No.. I don't think it is possible to have too much Anne McAfferty in one's formative years. ... well... not unless you start naming your children with apostrophe's in their names, that is. "Hi, I'd like to register my child for kindergarten. His name is M'rtin Jones. You might remember his big syster, Cr'stal?" On being somebody else 24/7... it's a slight sideways way to approach it, but the friend who took me to the Tori concert had an intersting statement when I mentioned that she had had a child, which he didn't know about. "I'm not really interested in artist's personal lives." he said. "I'm interested in their art. My life is easily as interesting as any famous artist's... so is yours for that matter." I mention that quote because it seems to be at the root of the problem. Why would someone co-opt someone else's identity if they found their own life to be an interesting and fascinating thing? The obvious answer is a very sad one. Rick - (cover your ears kiddies) That's just fucked up, dude. I understand being the overly nice and fair guy.. I've been there myself more times than I like to admit.. but to have someone to tell you to leave while still paying rent on the place.. that's just wrong. She wants you out, then she has to either get her own damn roommate or move out herself. Squeaks - From your imaginary sex life to my real one? Oh... but your imaginary sex life is *so* much more interesting. Maybe we should discuss Martha's imaginary sex life, as a way to encourage her to come so she can put a stop to it?
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permalink #842 of 2008: Weeeeeeeee! (velvetraisin) Sun 25 Nov 01 11:22
permalink #842 of 2008: Weeeeeeeee! (velvetraisin) Sun 25 Nov 01 11:22
Kelly--(about the doorknob) My god...does stuff like this happen to normal people, or just us barking mad folks? (about the dress) You look absolutely lovely in that dress! And at such a deal too. Horray! Hmmm...well, I've got more to say (and to more people, too!) but I have to go to work. Angelina.
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permalink #843 of 2008: haunted by the ghosts of long-dead cookies (rick-baumhauer) Sun 25 Nov 01 11:44
permalink #843 of 2008: haunted by the ghosts of long-dead cookies (rick-baumhauer) Sun 25 Nov 01 11:44
JaNell and Dan - Thanks! You just made me feel a whole lot better - I'm not one to want to be mean (and no, there are no kids), so I don't play this game well. You've given me a bit of resolve to find a better solution.
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permalink #844 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 25 Nov 01 12:01
permalink #844 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 25 Nov 01 12:01
Rick, it sounds like it's time to find yourself your own lawyer and get the divorce ball rolling and negotiate the terms of a legal separation - in writing - in the meantime. Don't forget to take care of yourself and don't let your soon-to-be ex and her sister push you around. Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on the WELL.
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permalink #845 of 2008: figment of her own imagination (johannabobrow) Sun 25 Nov 01 13:29
permalink #845 of 2008: figment of her own imagination (johannabobrow) Sun 25 Nov 01 13:29
Maure: I have never had the fortune or misfortune (depending on the experience) of meeting Harlan, so I have no idea what he would say to me. Just as long as he doesn't grope me (ick. bad dream. no biscuit.) And it's nice to see others were warped by Anne Mccaffery at an early age. Rick: Sorry to her about the living arrangement mess. Hope it gets resolved happily. I know Abbe is lurking around here somewhere, and she's also in the Boston area, so that's three. Though it doesn't sound like any of us are much for poker. We'll just have to find something else to play. johanna, enjoying the unseasonably lovely weather
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permalink #846 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 25 Nov 01 14:10
permalink #846 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Sun 25 Nov 01 14:10
Rick said, "I'm not one to want to be mean (and no, there are no kids), so I don't play this game well." There's a vast difference between mean, and fair. Fair is you each take what you brought into the marriage, you each get whatever you're legally responsible for, and evenly divide the stuff already paid for that you've accumulated after the marriage. Mean, and selfish, is what it sounds like your ex is trying to pull on you. Get a good lawyer that isn't mean and believes in fair. It'll be much cheaper in the long run.
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permalink #847 of 2008: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Sun 25 Nov 01 14:36
permalink #847 of 2008: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Sun 25 Nov 01 14:36
Maure, yay for your brother's college sports career! Madman, thanks for the pointer; I will g spirit and look for the topic. Rick, I think JaNell and Linda spoke sooth, there. Especially the part about getting legal advice.
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permalink #848 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sun 25 Nov 01 14:41
permalink #848 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sun 25 Nov 01 14:41
Heya Rick - sorry things have devolved so rapidly. Apply Lindas disclaimer here - I'm not a lawyer. However, I've played in this divorce thing recently, and this is what I know: - If she's not on the lease, and never signed anything, she has no right to the place (as far as the management company is concerned). She's living in a serious pipe dream if she thinks her demands are reasonable. Tell her she can leave, if she's so desparate for the situation to change. - Alimony is given when the wife has a significantly lower income, that would prevent her from keeping her same standard of living. Since women are starting to make more than men, it can be flipped around nowdays - really common in urban centers. - Find a lawyer. While you're looking for this, go to your bookstore and pick up a copy of "YourState Divorce Laws and Forms" by Nolo Press - invaluable resource for explaining things in clear, non-legalise terms. Good luck. :-) -Kelly
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permalink #849 of 2008: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Sun 25 Nov 01 15:29
permalink #849 of 2008: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Sun 25 Nov 01 15:29
lioness- it's actually been pretty hopping lately, even. stagewalker- I laughed out loud at your suggestion. I'll bring the peeps next time, how's that?
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permalink #850 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Sun 25 Nov 01 16:38
permalink #850 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Sun 25 Nov 01 16:38
heya all! Spent Turkey Day with the Backflip Boy's family, which consisted of reading a book (I'd love to say it was something deep and cool and literature-like, but it was actually Elliot S. Maggin's _Kingdom Come_ novelisation, because I'm reliving my childhood and re-reading all the Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman I can get my mitts on these days) through the Lions/Packers game, playing tackle (I'd call it Football, except it really, really wasn't) with three of the small nephews, and amusing them to no end when I picked up Uncle Jared in a fireman's carry and walked around the yard with him until we got tackled and went "spu!" Friday morning, got up at 4am, got to the (new and improved) Midway airport in time for my 7:30 flight (I'm paranoid about missing fligths. I think it has something to do with that whole not having enough money to buy anoterh ticket thing), met a Southwest FA who was dead-heading and a HUGE Superman fan, so we chatted the whole flight, and I showed him how to burn cds with his laptop. Saw the Harry Potter movie with the family down in Florida, and for the first time in living memory, we got to the theatre with time to spare (my father has a funny sense of timliness) and my mother and I were on the edge of our seats, on account of having read the books. Poppy and Deirdre were less enraptured (having not read the books), tho father dear did regail us of tales of his boarding school experiences in the 1940s all week-end. Saturday I made lamb stew and salad for lunch and then Deirds drove me to the airprot to fly home that evening. Only, they had overbooked my flight, so I had a bit of an adventure. Volunteered to fly home this morning and so I now have a $300 travel voucher anywhere SWA flies, got a free night in a hotel, plus dinner and breakfast. And I got home to Chicago at a decent hour so I saved cabfare by taking the train from the airport to home. Of course, I broke a plate (haven't broken any of the new plates since moving) and burned my thumb making dinner (long story involving a pizza, a pot holder, and me being stupid). But all in all, it was a nice week-end. :)
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