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The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
permalink #1301 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 27 Dec 01 23:22
permalink #1301 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 27 Dec 01 23:22
Well, Mary, I hope you mean it's like crack in that it's completely addictive! If you do, then yes, indeed, I'm happy. squeaks, you can have your name back now, my voice has completely returned, although it did get a bit creaky in the final hour of my all-day talkfest yesterday on my annual visit with my best friend. (And I don't know when marvy took that photo of Tori, but it is die for, fully of happiness in your heart when you do so.) Since my best friend also makes jewelry, we determined we would spend the day visiting LA-ish beadshops, and chose to visit one in Redlands, completely unaware of the traffic nightmare that faced us on the 91 freeway. Ohmigod. We crawled. But, if it hadn't been for the horrendous traffic I never would have stopped at the Mission Inn in Riverside to use the restrooms, and I never would have had the chance to show my friend and Mike all the nooks and crannies I discovered when I lived there and I am SO happy to report that Aunt Alice is still there in all her still-unsolved mysteriousness, even though the place has been thoroughly renovated. We got back from LA about an hour ago. Belated Christmas happies to all of you and best, best wishes for a wonderful 2002!
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permalink #1302 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 27 Dec 01 23:23
permalink #1302 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 27 Dec 01 23:23
E-mail from Jen: Ninave - Thanks, but the cancellation is probably a permanent thing. Even when I had the money to be a member I didn't post enough to topics to justify the expense. I found myself going to fewer and fewer conferences and then I looked up one day and realized I'd pretty much gone back to just lurking at this one. Lord of the Rings - Saw it last week and really liked it. Probably would have loved it but I never did manage to read the books when I was younger, read too many ripoffs instead, so I didn't get to watch it with the same anticipation and hope that most of my friends did. I am going to read them after seeing all the movies though. Neil - I just need to check and make sure you've seen Sherlock Jr. Everyone needs to see that movie. Now. ::squints at everyone in what she hopes is a menacing way:: Oh, and as long as we're on the subject, got any silent film recommendies of your own? Golden apples - That made me start to write a little playlet thing. So far Neil hasn't said much and Aphrodite got saddled with the name Bob. I thought of posting what I had so someone else could continue but it wasn't worth it. I just read To Say Nothing of the Dog and really liked it and I can't for the life of me remember how it got recommended to me in the first place. Was it discussed in one of the incarnations of this topic once upon a time? Why is it that when I decide to shut up I suddenly can't stop talking? Jen, who is sickened at all her "I" statements, and is going to practice reading out loud some more.
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permalink #1303 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Fri 28 Dec 01 07:31
permalink #1303 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Fri 28 Dec 01 07:31
Jen-Hah. I name everything either "Bob", "Fred" or "Herman". The cave crickets that constantly invaded the bathroom in the trailer we lived in were "Hermans" (the stripey cactus we rescued at an estate sale is called that, too); the small purse that my father gave my mother as an engagement gift (alligator skin, with a real stuffed baby alligator on it, eeeewwww) is named "Fred", whenever he gets a showing. My old computer's hard drive was named "Bob"... Silent Movies: don't get me started. A huge section of my library is books on movies from the getgo 'til about the forties....
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permalink #1304 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Fri 28 Dec 01 08:47
permalink #1304 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Fri 28 Dec 01 08:47
Michelle, re: 1253, take your time - do whatever evil-laughter-inspiring things you want to do to it! That only makes it sound more fun. Regarding LotR, I liked it even more the second time. The first time I watched it was the very first showing, at 12:01am Wednesday, after having worked for 9.5 hours at school and having been awake since 5:30am the previous day. I didn't fall asleep during the movie, but I think I was so overtired that I lost the thread now and again. Seeing it a second time did wonders for me. Our Xmas tradition used to be to get up at 5 in the morning and to try to wake our parents. They'd get up at about 6 (after spending an hour hiding under the covers, telling us to go away, pretending to be asleep, and Dad, pretending to be dead), and we'd rush into the living room and crowd around the tree like vultures. Those were the days! We're all older now - the youngest is 18, but we do not sleep in and open presents later. Oh no. We open them all on Xmas eve. None of us wants to wake up early, but we do want to open our presents. Everyone goes home for Xmas eve, Dad still plays Santa, and we open all our presents there. It's fun. This year's holiday season was delightful. Jen, I'm not Neil, but I would recommend any of the silents with Lillian Gish. There's something about her that fascinates me. And don't worry about "I" statements - there's nothing wrong with them. New Year's is coming up - hope everyone has plans to spend it with people they love.
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permalink #1305 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Fri 28 Dec 01 09:44
permalink #1305 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Fri 28 Dec 01 09:44
Neil - ok... that's just damn silly. I have, of course, forwarded the url to friends who appreciate such silliness as much as I do. *grin* Linda - glad you're feeling better. Isn't the Mission Inn beautiful? I stayed there once on business, years ago. Jen - do you mean Young Sherlock Holmes? Or is there something called Sherlock Jr.??
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permalink #1306 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Fri 28 Dec 01 09:48
permalink #1306 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Fri 28 Dec 01 09:48
Silents: Lillian Gish is good for drama, Dorothy Gish for comedy; both are in "Orphans of the Storm". Um, Griffith is a good place to start (http://www.mdle.com/ClassicFilms/BTC/direct5.htm). Look up Eric Von Stroheim for the controversial films. Mack Sennett for slapstick. try: http://www.silentera.com/ Oh, don't forget SF/Horror: Nosferatu, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, Le Voyage dans la Lune (A Trip to the Moon), *Metropolis* (Gorgio Morodor version) "Greed" is good, but grueling to watch, and ZaSu Pitts was normally a comedienne, and had difficulty getting people to take her seriously as an actress (the name didn't help)... I have the book that one is based on, "McTeague". Look for Buster Keaton movies, and Marion Davis (...rosebud...); Harold Lloyd (stuntman). Theda Bara (vamp movies). See, I got started.
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permalink #1307 of 2008: ViciousKitty (jenifer-paige) Fri 28 Dec 01 10:37
permalink #1307 of 2008: ViciousKitty (jenifer-paige) Fri 28 Dec 01 10:37
Hello all! I've been a lurker here since about September, and thanks to Christmas, I finally got an account! I got money from both sets of grandparents; how amusing that people who have never been on the internet should fund my new account! I don't have much to say in the way of introducing myself. I was Viciouskitty on the Neil Gaiman website board, back before I got bored and faded away. I have a blog on Xanga, I don't know the exact address but I'm on the Barking Mad blogring. I live in Montgomery, Alabama, which is a little slow in the way of culture, but has an amazing Shakepeare park, art museum, and theatre. I hope everyone had a great holiday! I'm sooo happy to be here finally!
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permalink #1308 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Fri 28 Dec 01 11:19
permalink #1308 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Fri 28 Dec 01 11:19
Yer silly, VK, it's www.xanga.com/ViciousKitty
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permalink #1309 of 2008: The Road Goes Ever On (pamela-bird) Fri 28 Dec 01 11:32
permalink #1309 of 2008: The Road Goes Ever On (pamela-bird) Fri 28 Dec 01 11:32
Neil: Oh. My. God. I will never, ever be the same. That had so many moments of pure platinum that I can't even prioritize them into favorites. Except... Nope. Can't do it. THANK YOU!!! Thank goodness it's the holiday week, and nobody's here, because I was yelling, "Oh no... No!" at my monitor and laughing so hard I cried. I will now propagate this to the known universe. Mary: Wow. I'm so jealous!!! Did you see all those shows in Chicago? I have to admit that I didn't really care for Jacobi's Hamlet. But I'd *love* to see him do Cyrano. Actually, I have to admit that I've yet to see a Hamlet that really turned me on. There was one in Chicago that I think would have been it, but I missed it. *sigh* JaNell: There is something about you with your mom's Fred-the-alligator-bag that just makes me happy. ; ) Jen: "I" away! Go for it! We think you're interesting. Keep emailing! Vicious Kitty: Hail and welcome! One of my favorite nephews lives in Alabama. I remember it as a place of much kudzu and the lake where I learned to water ski.
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permalink #1310 of 2008: This Celebration of "I" is Brought to You By... Friends of Neil (pamela-bird) Fri 28 Dec 01 11:49
permalink #1310 of 2008: This Celebration of "I" is Brought to You By... Friends of Neil (pamela-bird) Fri 28 Dec 01 11:49
I've decided this is tangentially on-topic, in the ways of the Mob. I have this tendency, when I'm really tired, to get less and less sleep. We were just talking about comfort books, but really it's just *reading*, for me. Any kind of books, even if they screw up my head and keep me awake all night, fall under the category of "comfort books" by virtue of the basic fact that I read them. I'm tired and stressed out from the past month of holiday craziness, so last night I just wanted to sit in my living room in front of the twinkly tree and read "just a little bit." So I grabbed Jane Yolen's _Sister Emily's Lightship and Other Stories_ off the shelf of "currently reading" because I thought I was in less danger if I were reading short stories. You know: just one or two and then toddle off to bed. But the first story was "Blood Sisters," which is a story about two characters from THE BOOKS OF GREAT ALTA. So, of course I had to grab *that* off the shelf to track them down, and remember exactly who they were and how their story played out. So I ended up rereading the *entire* BOOKS OF GREAT ALTA last night. Instead of sleeping, I was up until 1:30, late as hell to work this morning and I'm even more tired than I was last night. And I'm tripping Jane Yolen on repeat in a mental fugue state. And it's all good. God, I love reading.
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permalink #1311 of 2008: haunted by the ghosts of long-dead cookies (rick-baumhauer) Fri 28 Dec 01 14:11
permalink #1311 of 2008: haunted by the ghosts of long-dead cookies (rick-baumhauer) Fri 28 Dec 01 14:11
Well, I'm back home from Detroit. Glad to hear that everybody seems to have had a nice holiday. Honestly, it's hard to imagine how mine could have been better. The fact that it was Christmas was almost incidental - it was just the reason that everybody got together. High points - sitting and talking with my grandmother and great-grandmother (who I probably haven't seen in 20 years - she turns 94 in February), and just enjoying holding their hands as they talked. My grandmother, in particular, is in failing health - she's always been a beautiful (and vain, quite honestly) woman, and spent too many years living on cigarettes and coffee in order to maintain her beauty. Over the last 3 years, things have started going downhill, particularly because she's had to take steroids for the last 30 years to help her breathe, but that's exacerbated an existing case of osteoporosis - her bones can no longer support her body. I'll probably be back in town in August, but it was nice to see them and enjoy their company. On top of that, I got to spend a lot of time with my dear friends Kathleen and Liz. It's been difficult to keep in touch with Liz lately (Kathleen and I are "racing buddies", so we talk all the time), primarily because she works nights (she's the overnight DJ on the local public radio station), but she's in a really great place in her life right now (great new apartment with her boyfriend - seems like a great guy - plus a big raise from the station last year which allows her to live on one job) and made lots of time to spend with me. It was great to re-strengthen that bond. It was also pretty cool to have her wishing me a safe flight on the air as my dad drove me to the airport at 4am.............. I also got to spend some time with my favorite cousin, who has had her first child since the last time I saw her. He's teething right now, so he was a bit of a "velcro baby" during the family get-togethers, but she and I got together for chai yesterday and talked for an hour or so. I'm so proud of (and pleased for) both her and her brother - they had difficult childhoods, with plenty of good excuses for not making much of their lives. To their credit, they've both really pulled things together in the last few years - he has his own construction/remodelling/maintenance business, and she teaches art in an elementary school. It's amazing to see this person who I remember as this cute little girl really growing into an accomplished, vital woman. To top things off, I saw LOTR two more times (once with my dad, sister, and brother-in-law, and once with my mom), for a total of three times in the first week - I'm running neck-and-neck with Pamela, it seems. On the third viewing, the pacing didn't seem quite as rushed. It still seems to me that the book, which is anything but action-packed, has somehow been changed into a high-intensity action film. It's like the pacing of the book looks like a sort-of irregular, mostly-flat EKG, with very occasional peaks, and the movie only has the peaks. This is particularly evident during the first two hours, which seem to lack an emotional center - as one review said, it feels a bit "one damn thing after another" at times. (Mild SPOILER alert - but really, it's not like you haven't had time to read the books!) However, the last hour *really* makes up for that. For me, the shot that really sells the whole emotional core of the film is just after the Fellowship leaves Moria, and Frodo has gone on ahead of the rest - Aragorn calls out to him, and there is a cut to a closeup of Elijah Wood as he slowly turns back toward the camera, his eyes welling up with tears, with a majestic, mountainous background in the distance. That one shot just encompasses, so simply, the enormity of the task they've set out to accomplish, and the price that they're paying. Really a fabulous film - I'm still stunned that they pulled it off so well. Okay, enough of my yackin'!
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permalink #1312 of 2008: Daniel (dfowlkes) Sat 29 Dec 01 03:38
permalink #1312 of 2008: Daniel (dfowlkes) Sat 29 Dec 01 03:38
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permalink #1313 of 2008: Weeeeeeeee! (velvetraisin) Sat 29 Dec 01 06:49
permalink #1313 of 2008: Weeeeeeeee! (velvetraisin) Sat 29 Dec 01 06:49
Dan--Oh, that was so sweet of Lori! ah. I will be touched all day long now. Angelina.
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permalink #1314 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 29 Dec 01 12:23
permalink #1314 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 29 Dec 01 12:23
I love stories about SOs who do that! And a note to whoever it was who complained about not being able to find AG at Barnes and Noble: it's so totally typical. About three topics back I posted about my attempts to get my local B&N to host a Neil reading for AG and how totally rudely they treated me. I don't do business with Barnes and Noble if I can help it.
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permalink #1315 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sat 29 Dec 01 12:56
permalink #1315 of 2008: she looks like evening (kellyhills) Sat 29 Dec 01 12:56
That was me, Linda. I guess I'm spoiled by my local B&Ns - both the ones I frequent are a much better standard than what I experianced down here. The staff are generally friendly and helpful, some know me on sight, they know their books, and things like that. I generally get better treatment there than at any of the other local bookstores. Actually, curious - does anyone else do this? I have certain stores I go to for certain books; they're generally all chain stores (my one trip in to Elliot Bay Books wasn't a good one), but I've found they all stock different things. The downtown Seattle B&N is great for history/cultural studies books, the downtown Borders has a good magazine selection, and music section staff who know really diverse/non mainstream stuf. B&N Redmond is the one to go to for human sexuality books, Tukwila Borders has the best science fiction fantasy section I've seen (outside of Powells, and is probably better for new stuff), and the Redmond Borders has the best international music section. Please don't tell me I'm the only one who's that persistently,... obsessive about her bookstores? :-) -Kelly
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permalink #1316 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Sat 29 Dec 01 21:32
permalink #1316 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Sat 29 Dec 01 21:32
Will someone please explain to me why women are invisible to car salesmen?
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permalink #1317 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Sat 29 Dec 01 22:56
permalink #1317 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Sat 29 Dec 01 22:56
JaNell, no worries. Last time I went into a car dealership, I got utterly ignored for a good fifteen minutes when I first walked in. I'd've walked right back out again in half that time if I wasn't interested in making money off of them.
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permalink #1318 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Sun 30 Dec 01 07:08
permalink #1318 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Sun 30 Dec 01 07:08
No, there are worries; the salesmen stood right there talking only to Cam as if I had nothing to do with it. We have three cars, one we can use (clutch out in one, the other off insurance), all sticks, and Cam has knee surgery coming up this month, so we need an automatic, or actually two, as I can't clutch properly since that accident last year... Being broke doesn't help, but at least we have cars to trade. And I'll not buy from some sexist jerk, so we're eliminating sources fast. Once I actually had a guy refuse to sell a Mercedes standard when he realized that my (ex) husband didn't drive; he believed that women shouldn't drive stick shifts...
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permalink #1319 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Sun 30 Dec 01 08:43
permalink #1319 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Sun 30 Dec 01 08:43
Ah, well, in that case, you're going to need a little help from Cam. My ex was car-shopping with me, and it seemed that the only way to get the car salesman to talk directly to her was for me to look away any time he looked in my direction. Eventually he got the point.
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permalink #1320 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Sun 30 Dec 01 12:38
permalink #1320 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Sun 30 Dec 01 12:38
Neil, someone from your message board has figured out patterns for Sandman characters made from Legos: http://www.neilgaiman.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000348.html And I thought *I* had too much untapped creative energy...
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permalink #1321 of 2008: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Sun 30 Dec 01 18:10
permalink #1321 of 2008: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Sun 30 Dec 01 18:10
I just came across something that might be of interest to those of you who have enjoyed artist Michael Zulli's collaborations with Neil over the years. He is currently illustrating "Delicate Creatures" a modern day fairy tale written by Babylon 5 creator J. Michael Straczynski. Check it out: http://www.comicon.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000082.html
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permalink #1322 of 2008: books are for reading... (jenifer-paige) Sun 30 Dec 01 21:38
permalink #1322 of 2008: books are for reading... (jenifer-paige) Sun 30 Dec 01 21:38
JaNell, I sympathize about the car salesmen. I look about 14, so you can imagine the attention I get. Bill's right though. It helps to have your partner help. Try a Saturn dealer. At least then you get to kick the door panels until someone helps you! ;) (Note: they're bendy. The salesmen kick them themselves.) Kelly, I'm that obsessive about bookstores too. Of course, we only have the two large chain ones and two small mall chain ones, with miscellaneous used ones, so probably not the ordeal to visit all of them as it would be for you. Well, I just found out that a book which somehow migrated to me that my aunt had when she was young, is selling for up to $200 in mint condition. Now, my book is stained and the dust cover is split, none of which is my fault so it isn't worth anything, but really! At least I know mine has been read. The book (A Walk Out of the World, for those curious) was published in 1969, and I just don't see how someone can keep a book mint after 30+ years, especially when they couldn't have known it would be worth so much. Unless they didn't read it, which is just a shame. On a lighter note, in my local Books-A-Million today, I saw a bookmark with Boromir from Lord of the Rings. It has a fairly weighty gold metal ring attached to the tassel, with some engraving. The reason I had to buy it, was for the warning on the back. "This product is not recommended for very young children, as rings can present a choking hazard." This just attracts my sense of the absurd. The One Ring! The ring which draws immense evil,which many people lose their lives trying to obtain, is warned against being a choking hazard! Ok, maybe it's just me. _I_ thought it was funny, anyway. I'm slightly loopy right now, due to Tylenol PM. I don't know why I take the stuff just to fight against the sleepiness when it actually starts to do what I took it for. Oh well.
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permalink #1323 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Mon 31 Dec 01 07:11
permalink #1323 of 2008: Ja'Nell (goldennokomis) Mon 31 Dec 01 07:11
Jenifer~ was it a Brass Ring? And I'm glad to know that someone else gets loopy easily; I was talking to a friend a few weeks ago who started staring at me because I was stopping in the middle of a sentence and starting back up a few minutes later. She asked what I was on and laughed when I said "Tylenol Allergy-Sinus". She told me I'd be a cheap date. ; > Neil & Maure saw me at MadCon after *one* drink and I'll bet that they were amused, too. Down I go...
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permalink #1324 of 2008: Weeeeeeeee! (velvetraisin) Mon 31 Dec 01 09:31
permalink #1324 of 2008: Weeeeeeeee! (velvetraisin) Mon 31 Dec 01 09:31
Best New Years wishes to everyone, and Best Car Salesmen wishes to JaNell...
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permalink #1325 of 2008: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 31 Dec 01 10:06
permalink #1325 of 2008: Dodge (hnowell) Mon 31 Dec 01 10:06
I have books that will be mint 30 years from now. THat's because I buy two of any book I like. One to read. To lend. To re-read. And one to go on the shelves in the living room. So if I completely destroy the first one, I've got the second.
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