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Topic 125: The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
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The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
permalink #1601 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 1 Feb 02 14:36
permalink #1601 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 1 Feb 02 14:36
E-mail from Michaela: Pam - accent? which accent? zis one? vot? .. um. It is not that bad - I like to remember the American guy asking me whether I was British or whether I had spent time there. That was before I spent six months in York. On the other hand my English is now good enough for me to notice my accent. From time to time I wince and think that short of living in England for good I'll never get rid of occasionally sounding awfully German, even without the occasional blackout searching for words. Oh well. So if you want to hear it in your head while reading my posts just make it a muddle of sounding more British than American with German pitch and melody some (hopefully not most) of the time ;) Neil - just read your blogger about the Coraline UK signing tour - is it really going to happen? You will be in Edinburgh for the festival? I'd be willing to carry another few kilos of books and stuff across the channel for you to sign - plus this time I'd have a willing porter in my husband who already agreed to a short holiday in Edinburgh should you show up there. So - even if you claim not to be anybody special at all apart from writing good stories, he is one person you did impress at least as much by being you as by your work ;) Maure - yes, the recorder. I remember knowing it was called the recorder and thinking that it is an odd name for this instrument. Sounds so technical and not at all like what it actually is. My recorder is long lost and had been chewed on by one of our dogs anyway. Sometimes I consider buying a new one but it hasn't happened yet. Playing madrigals sounds more fun than playing christmas tunes. Michaela
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permalink #1602 of 2008: My husband loved IRON GIANT even more than I did, an' I liked it more than Ben and Jerry's Phish flavor ice cream (pamela-bird) Fri 1 Feb 02 17:30
permalink #1602 of 2008: My husband loved IRON GIANT even more than I did, an' I liked it more than Ben and Jerry's Phish flavor ice cream (pamela-bird) Fri 1 Feb 02 17:30
John M: Well, I promised to participate in Nefarious Deeds for a copy of ADVENTURES signed by Neil. And you really don't want to know what I promised for a copy signed by *both* you and Neil. So I may be the only person in fandom who's actually relieved that you won't be at Boskone. So I can get your signature in October myself, and avoid the consequences. Annie: Sorry! My harper friend Stephanie's only about 5'2 and 95 pounds soaking wet, and it's pretty funny to watch her cart her harps around sometimes. Maure: I think I was imprinted forever about recorders in early childhood in the 70's by my oldest brother's college friend, who used to come home with my brother and play a recorder at random times. They said his name was Sandy, but I'm pretty convinced he was really named Puck. So they always have that feel about them to me--barefoot, long-haired, impish and happy. Michaela: Well, I imagined it to be a "soft" accent--not anything like bad movies or something! I just missed the British part, which was sort of silly of me. I like to remind myself of how people from other places sound, so that I'm not shocked if I ever get the lovely opportunity to meet some of you! (And also to try not to be quite such an arrogant American--imagining everyone speaking like me, even other Americans.) Mary: You continue to have the rockin-est reading list! Adriana: What's the one that starts "Lost, on the island where you brought her...?" That's my favorite. I think. Maybe. Cause I have others. Depending. But maybe that's favoriter than other favorites. For anyone who cares, I'm a very happy girl, because mortgage interest rates dropped HALF A POINT today!!! -Pam, who's praying that they'll let us lock in at this rate tomorrow
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permalink #1603 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Fri 1 Feb 02 18:16
permalink #1603 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Fri 1 Feb 02 18:16
I'm so embarassed but I never saw the Iron Giant, and I know I really need to. It's cool to hear that cool, smart, interesting people like The Barking Madders like it. My dear Pamela, that would be Lost, of which you can hear a sample at cdbaby. Good luck tomorrow, you know we are rooting for you.
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permalink #1604 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Sat 2 Feb 02 09:43
permalink #1604 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Sat 2 Feb 02 09:43
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permalink #1605 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Sat 2 Feb 02 09:44
permalink #1605 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Sat 2 Feb 02 09:44
Adriana Rose & abbess: When "The Iron Giant" first came out, I created a fan site for it at the now defunct ACMEcity (it's backed up, however, here: http://ljconstantine.com/irongiant/) and I three interviewed of the animators: Kevin O'Neil, Richard Bazley, and Vince Truitner. They'remostly just little Q&As, and not great ones at that, but yes, I gushed and they gushed :) and I'm *still* waiting for a collector's edition DVD with Brad Bird's commentary!
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permalink #1606 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Sat 2 Feb 02 18:44
permalink #1606 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Sat 2 Feb 02 18:44
Hello everyone. Just checking in after a long time away. I've been playing guitar at home, mostly, while looking for another dayjob. (Got laid off of my network support job, although I still go into the same company once in awhile as a consultant.) Recently rewatched "What Dreams May Come," (a Robin Williams movie) on local tv and liked it. Saw LOTR and appreciated it, although I think they could have done more with the gentler aspects of Tolkien's work to complement all of the battle stuff. (I'm still thinking that Jack Vance's Lyonesse would make an excellent movie, with a soundtrack composed by the David Grisman band -- which shows where I deviate from conventional Hollywood wisdom.)
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permalink #1607 of 2008: Jinxie (jinx) Sun 3 Feb 02 21:10
permalink #1607 of 2008: Jinxie (jinx) Sun 3 Feb 02 21:10
abbess,....Well I'll be at BosKone,....it's my birthday present to myself, I'm on the 13th and got the weekend off, well that's present enough, but three whole days away,..and thingies and Neil and Sci-Fi. :happy contented sigh: Jinx finally watching "The Handmaidens Tale" and trying to remember the book
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permalink #1608 of 2008: Jenifer (jenifer-paige) Sun 3 Feb 02 22:33
permalink #1608 of 2008: Jenifer (jenifer-paige) Sun 3 Feb 02 22:33
Hey, I was just watching that too! And realizing, yet again, that it is past time for me to re-read that book. Strange how I'm always astonished someone is watching the same thing as me, you'd think I thought I was the only one up watching Sci Fi this time of night...
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permalink #1609 of 2008: Daniel (dfowlkes) Mon 4 Feb 02 08:53
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permalink #1610 of 2008: Patricia Clarkson (pclarkson) Mon 4 Feb 02 12:10
permalink #1610 of 2008: Patricia Clarkson (pclarkson) Mon 4 Feb 02 12:10
(_finally_ joining to help support lurkers as I have been so kindly supported...) Erynn- I saw The Mothman Prophecies yesterday and liked it. From interviews over the last few weeks promoting the movie, I knew it wasn't going to be like the book (of the same name) by John Keel so I wasn't too disappointed with the (mostly) fictional characters and psychological feel to it. My friend kept a drawing of Mothman she did from gradeschool- she grew up in WVa near Point Pleasant and heard the stories from her dad and mom. She shared them with me when she heard my husband's family lived in that area, too. So, for the last few years I have been an avid Mothman "fan", trying to find bits of info here and there. (at arms length though 'cause it is scary!) Anyway, when the creature was first sighted it was called "the bird", but then was renamed "Mothman" after a villain on the "Batman" TV show. If there is a question in here anywhere it would be to Neil: in all of your reading of comics or research into comicbook characters did you ever come across a Mothman? pc
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permalink #1611 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 4 Feb 02 12:38
permalink #1611 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 4 Feb 02 12:38
Welcome Patricia! I've been wanting to see that movie.
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permalink #1612 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Mon 4 Feb 02 14:02
permalink #1612 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Mon 4 Feb 02 14:02
Patricia: Welcome to the mad Earl Grey party! Speak up, post long, and nevermind the odd noises. Hi, Lenny! I missed you! Fingers crossed for a job. Tara: Thanks for the IG link. I liked reading the interviews. I think it's cool that Richard Bazley likes Eyvind Earle. He's one of my favorite Disney artists. On the home front: THANKS ALL FOR YOUR POSITIVE BEAMS! The loan appointment went really well--we got very good rates, so... it looks like we're definitely buying this house! ACK! Wow, we're so excited!!! Pics and details soon.
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permalink #1613 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Mon 4 Feb 02 15:12
permalink #1613 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Mon 4 Feb 02 15:12
Pamela Basham: Last time I heard from him, Richard was working on a short based on A short animated film based on "The Journal of Edwin Carp" starring Hugh Laurie. Here's his website: http://www.bazleyfilms.com/ He was a joy to interview, and I try and keep up on what he's up to as he was a lovely person to talk with, given my penchant for completely geeking out over animation. Dan: I couldn't agree with you more. It was like Disney's marketing dept. killing "The Rocketeer" dead, only on a much, MUCH grander scale. IG *should* have made a killing, but WB blew their entire advertising budget that summer on the ill-fated "Wild, Wild West" remake and totally blew it. IG should have been the one with the Burgar King toy tie-in, and it got yanked out of most theatres to make more room for "Blair Witch" and "Sixth Sense" and most folks I know never even saw it until it came out on DVD. And even that deserved a much bigger launch. It just broke my heart. I was a regular at the WB Iron Giant message boards at the time, and a lot of the production crew used to post there as well, and to a one, they all said that they had never had such a wonderful experience as working on that movie. *sigh* On a side note, Brad Bird does two of the commentary tracks on the new "The Simpsons" first season box set. Liek I said before, I live in hope for a deluxe collector's edition IG DVD with commentary and goodies and such :)
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permalink #1614 of 2008: when i lift them they climb up stairs (josparrow) Mon 4 Feb 02 16:34
permalink #1614 of 2008: when i lift them they climb up stairs (josparrow) Mon 4 Feb 02 16:34
good lord a month with no net access at least it is only 200 posts ...... Umm, Vegemite is of the good, but do get an experienced user to assist you when you start out <stupid grin>. Have to say though, that I am firmly in the ranks of ex-musicians after ceasing to play the clarinet (13-17). I picked mine up the other day and realised I had lost all traces of mouth technique, the only noises I could make were suspiciously squawkish. Now I'm really wondering whether we get the UK or the US Mars here in New Zealand. It is really similar to a Moro, not that that is probably any use to anyone :). Jo who will now go and see how bad her other conferences are, but had to come here first.
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permalink #1615 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 4 Feb 02 17:05
permalink #1615 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 4 Feb 02 17:05
On the positive PR front... I was paging through The SF Bay Guardian (one of the two big independent papers here in San Francisco) and stumbled across the review for the newest CAFE show, which was quite positive and mentioned both Martha and myself by name (which was quite nice, as I certainly wasn't expecting a mention in the papers for adapting the piece...) Really, the only thing negative in the review was about the chemistry between the male and female in Social Contracts. (and since the female lead told me that she still didn't see what her character finds so appealing about his character... I'm not too surprised)
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permalink #1616 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 4 Feb 02 18:35
permalink #1616 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 4 Feb 02 18:35
Patricia -- I keep hearing the "'Mothman' was named after a TV Batman villain" story, but I saw most of the run of BATMAN (terrible thing to admit, but there you are), and I sure don't remember a "Mothman." Now, toward the end of the run, there were a number of single-part episodes (for those who weren't there, the show's original format was as a two-part serial over consecutive nights). Several of these were designed mainly to suit a name star who wanted to do the show, as a villain never heard of before or since (Milton Berle as "Louie the Lilac" was probably the low point). There -might- have been one of those about a "Mothman," and I suppose I ought to go check that. But it sounds to me like a typical half-remembered half-rumor that positive web feedback has turned into Accepted Wisdom. There -is- Arthur, the Tick's sidekick, who wears a moth costume (though most of the villains think he's a bunny).
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permalink #1617 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 4 Feb 02 18:59
permalink #1617 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 4 Feb 02 18:59
Okay, sometimes websearches are amusing. There's a complete episode guide out there: 120 Bat-episodes, nobody called "Mothman," or even anything like "Mothman." (And it can't be from the animated series, which came much later.)
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permalink #1618 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 4 Feb 02 18:59
permalink #1618 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 4 Feb 02 18:59
But alas, the live-action Tick has been canceled.
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permalink #1619 of 2008: -N. (streak) Mon 4 Feb 02 19:24
permalink #1619 of 2008: -N. (streak) Mon 4 Feb 02 19:24
Mothman was the name of one of the characters in Alan Moore's seminal _Watchmen_, and shame on all of you for not knowing that. :-)
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permalink #1620 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Mon 4 Feb 02 20:21
permalink #1620 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Mon 4 Feb 02 20:21
ya know, there's still a ton of Iron Giant paraphenalia sitting around here at work. i should pilfer it and distribute to y'all...hmm.... can somebody quickly tell me what the story of who the Mothman is/was (not the Watchman one, the one that the movie is "based" on)?
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permalink #1621 of 2008: It's a small world after all (miss-mousey) Mon 4 Feb 02 21:01
permalink #1621 of 2008: It's a small world after all (miss-mousey) Mon 4 Feb 02 21:01
Just dropping in to say 'hey'... 'hey' Never got a chance to see Iron Giant in the theatres, and every time I'm up to grabbing it on video, it's rented. I think one of my friends owns it tho', so I'm going to try to borrow it for an extended period of time now. :) Martha - Went to the Australian Store (couldn't find a Tree or Reg there, though I looked) and picked up many packages of Tim Tams and even a small jar of Vegemite - sure you don't want me to save it for you? ;P Neil - So good to see Harlequin Valentine in print in such a pretty little package. :) Um, that's it. Had a photo shoot on Sunday that I have high hopes for, even tho' it was an extremely rushed shoot. ACK! Angel's starting and I'm missing it! Gotta go (damned addictions). -squeaks
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permalink #1622 of 2008: Annie the Harpy (ancillafelium) Mon 4 Feb 02 21:03
permalink #1622 of 2008: Annie the Harpy (ancillafelium) Mon 4 Feb 02 21:03
I always amaze myself with the way I seem to have less spare time on the weekends than during the week... Mary- Oooh, you want to learn to play the harp? Hmmm... if you're really serious, I might actually be able to help you track down teachers and harper/ists in your area. There's a harp network on yahoogroups that's *huge*. There're something like 900 members on the main list, and they're all over the US, Europe, Canada, Australia, etc. Jo- I've never understood how people are able make such lovely sounds with reed instruments at all. The few times I've tried to play them I've only gotten really strange dying duck type noises from them. Now, granted, at least a few of those were with medieval-type ones, krumhorns, I think? and they sound very strange anyway. Okay, so now I have to go rent Iron Giant sometime. Y'all have gotten me curious. I finally corrected one of my major movie oversights this weekend by watching "The Wicker Man." Omigod, I've rarely giggled so hard in my life. I now understand why it's considered a classic by a good deal of the Neo-pagan community. A little disturbing, yes, but very thought-provoking, and very amusing (at least to me. My best friend thought I was off the deep end). annie, trying not to think about the steadily piling snow outside her apartment- ~7 inches and counting. so long as we don't get hit like buffalo did...
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permalink #1623 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 4 Feb 02 21:37
permalink #1623 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 4 Feb 02 21:37
Streak -- eh? While it's been a while since I looked at WATCHMEN, I don't recall him, and he surely can't have been one of the major characters, like Nite-Owl or The Comedian -- there were a load of minor "heroes" mentioned in passing (like Captain Carnage), was he one of those? Not that such a reference wouldn't be very Alan-like. But it still can't be the source, since again, WATCHMEN was more than a decade after the "fact." The "Mothman" was described as having wings and glowing red eyes, so the name seems logical enough -- there's no need to invoke any media source. Actually, Mothman seems very like the "Jersey Devil," and a variety of other vaguely demonic critters that run around the fringe world making nuisances of themselves, and have done for a very long time. (See also Nigel Kneale's QUATERMASS AND THE PIT, aka FIVE MILLION YEARS TO EARTH.)
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permalink #1624 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Mon 4 Feb 02 23:55
permalink #1624 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Mon 4 Feb 02 23:55
Just stopped by to say that Harlequin Valentine is v.v. good. Excellent essay on Harlequin & the commedia dell'arte at the end as well. I wish Neil had taught my theatre history classes! Mary (reading Agyar by Steven Brust)
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permalink #1625 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Mon 4 Feb 02 23:58
permalink #1625 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Mon 4 Feb 02 23:58
Have reconsidered. After having read "A Little Scene to Monarchize" by a certain Mr. Ford, I want him to have taught my theatre history classes. I'd be utterly confused, but seriously amused.
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