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permalink #226 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Fri 17 Jan 03 17:21
permalink #226 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Fri 17 Jan 03 17:21
It seems to be one reason for blog popularity is the ease with which one can be put up - either, as many ISP's permit, in the 'filespace' of a subscriber. Dunno how many Linux/Apache ISP servers are out there but on most of them (my service included) a $25 a month 'subscriber' can go into the 'public_html' sub directory, install, by himself a blog software package, have total control over it, register it as a URL, and away we go. Others appear to be using desktop systems that are their workstation, but with a download can be turned into a 'server' and blog software, and with a 24/7 connection, whether dsl or cable, can with only ONE computer be a blog sysop (or whatever its called). Super cheap, total control, no hassle. Can an AOL user set up a blog? I know some set up maillists.
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permalink #227 of 280: Gail Ann Williams (gail) Fri 17 Jan 03 17:36
permalink #227 of 280: Gail Ann Williams (gail) Fri 17 Jan 03 17:36
You don't have to have a server or an ISP with a web directory. Check out Salon's blog offering, "powered by" Userland for example: >Salon Blogs are powered by Radio UserLand, a simple yet >versatile software tool that lets you post >new items from your Web browser with one click. Radio >UserLand automatically builds your site, >organizes and archives your posts, and publishes your >content -- you don't need to know HTML, FTP, >or graphic design. All you need to do is install >Radio and begin publishing. You can publish written >text, links, photos, documents, and more with just a >single click of your mouse. > >Radio UserLand also provides other powerful features, >including the ability to subscribe to news feeds >from Salon, many other publications, and other bloggers. http://www.salon.com/blogs/
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permalink #228 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Fri 17 Jan 03 17:50
permalink #228 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Fri 17 Jan 03 17:50
Well, in effect that is using UserLand as a commercial blog 'service.' I saw that. But whatever. Seems like the ease and low cost of putting one up helps spread the genre.
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permalink #229 of 280: Brian Dear (brian) Fri 17 Jan 03 17:53
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permalink #230 of 280: Gail Ann Williams (gail) Fri 17 Jan 03 18:07
permalink #230 of 280: Gail Ann Williams (gail) Fri 17 Jan 03 18:07
Yeah, Scott asked Dave for fun naming before Salon Blogs launched, or within days anyway. Userland is not set up that way for now, sadly. Having a service like that to do the external serving does mean that of course AOLers and anyone can do a blog so long as it's elsewhere. Of course you know that.
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permalink #231 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Fri 17 Jan 03 18:46
permalink #231 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Fri 17 Jan 03 18:46
Oh I was just asking a sidebar or sorts. I know AOL has 35 million subscribers more or less. And that it grew by eventually 'catching up' with every feature other more advnaced systems had. But I haven't logged into for years, and so really don't know - other than its subscribers lack of broadband to it - how brain dead it is.
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permalink #232 of 280: Reid Harward (reid) Sat 18 Jan 03 11:52
permalink #232 of 280: Reid Harward (reid) Sat 18 Jan 03 11:52
So, is anyone else working on Blog glue? I've got a killer application that I've made in visual basic that provides some cohesion to autonomous and independent blogspace. Trouble is, I don't really know how to go about releasing it as open source. I've noticed that there's an opensource.ind conference, so I'll check that out, but I'd love to here some real-life accounts. I think this could really be an exciting project.
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permalink #233 of 280: Reid Harward (reid) Sat 18 Jan 03 12:18
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permalink #234 of 280: Reid Harward (reid) Sat 18 Jan 03 12:21
permalink #234 of 280: Reid Harward (reid) Sat 18 Jan 03 12:21
o 233 for a 10 page paper I wrote on blogs. Needs some editing.
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permalink #235 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Sat 18 Jan 03 18:28
permalink #235 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Sat 18 Jan 03 18:28
Fine reading until one hits the last word on the botton line which ends with 'and' ....
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permalink #236 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Sat 18 Jan 03 18:33
permalink #236 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Sat 18 Jan 03 18:33
What I am getting is that blogs are great for 'annotated linking' thus an index to lots of pre-posted information. But lousy for discussion. <Sigh>. Back to the drawing board for a new form of Rogers Bar for local political debate.
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permalink #237 of 280: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 18 Jan 03 19:34
permalink #237 of 280: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 18 Jan 03 19:34
I wouldn't say they're lousy for discussion. Some blog forms follow the Slashdot model, in which blogs and forums are combined. And many bloggers watch each other's blogs and toss ideas back and forth.
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permalink #238 of 280: Paul (biscuit) Sun 19 Jan 03 08:54
permalink #238 of 280: Paul (biscuit) Sun 19 Jan 03 08:54
Blogs are definitely not intended to be freeform discussion areas. We already have plenty of that. And yes, some blogs are merely "an index to lots of pre-posted information." However, there are smart-mobbish phenomena in blogspace that transcend this. Bloggers read other bloggers, and post about what they read, and build on one another's ideas. For example, Jon Udell's Library Lookup idea/tool (which helps you find a book in your local library rather than ordering it from Amazon) was really created collaboratively, and happened because of these connections between bloggers.
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permalink #239 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Sun 19 Jan 03 09:35
permalink #239 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Sun 19 Jan 03 09:35
'...we have plenty of that.' And THAT's the problem! (free form). Because, as the Well clearly exemplifies, without a true Moderator, who not only keeps the discussion on topic (or can technically branch it), keeps order, AND stimulates fruitfull discussions, topics just become babbles. And the discussions, as on the Well, for only registered users, is confined to that closed, smaller, group.
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permalink #240 of 280: Reid Harward (reid) Sun 19 Jan 03 09:59
permalink #240 of 280: Reid Harward (reid) Sun 19 Jan 03 09:59
There's plenty of free conference software out there and most allow one to set the level of moderation. Squishdot, for example, has a fully moderated mode that insists that a site manager check off on all new postings. http://squishdot.org/
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permalink #241 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Sun 19 Jan 03 10:59
permalink #241 of 280: Dave Hughes (dave) Sun 19 Jan 03 10:59
Looks good. Will try it out.
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permalink #242 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Mon 20 Jan 03 12:41
permalink #242 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Mon 20 Jan 03 12:41
I've done a fair amount of blogging at http://www.smartmobs.com about "moblogging" -- mobile blogging: <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000475.html> <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000552.html> <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000524.html> <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000522.html> <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000520.html> <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000516.html>
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permalink #243 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Wed 22 Jan 03 10:15
permalink #243 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Wed 22 Jan 03 10:15
I will make my last San Francisco public appearance to talk about Smart Mobs next Thursday, January 30, at the <a href="http://www.milibrary.org">Mechanic's Institute Library</a> 57 Post Street, San Francisco, at the Montgomery BART Station. Socializing at 5:30, speak at 6:00. This event will be a conversation between myself and Craig Newmark, founder of <a href="http://www.craigslist.org">Craig's List</a>. Spread the word.
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permalink #244 of 280: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Sun 26 Jan 03 09:52
permalink #244 of 280: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Sun 26 Jan 03 09:52
In related news, this is a slightly different wrinkle on smat mobs: 12 UM students accused of high-tech cheating 6 admit using Web devices to link to site during exam By Stephanie Hanes, Sun Staff, January 26, 2003 http://www.sunspot.net/news/education/bal-md.cheating26jan26,0,3792093.story ?coll=bal-local-headlines Twelve University of Maryland undergraduates have been accused of using Web-equipped cell phones or handheld organizers to cheat on a business school final exam last month, according to the school's student-run Honor Council. Six of them have admitted to misconduct during that same test, the council said. ... The students in the business exam are accused of using their cell phones and handheld computers to go to a Web site where a professor had posted answers to the exam, Cantor said. The answers were apparently intended for students to check their work after the final. ... Copyright ) 2003, The Baltimore Sun
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permalink #245 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Sun 26 Jan 03 10:51
permalink #245 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Sun 26 Jan 03 10:51
People in Scandinavia often told me: "In the US you use metal detectors to keep guns out of schools. Here, we need them to keep mobile phones out of schools." On a more serious societal level, I'm concerned about the rate at which the disruptive technology of mobile peer to peer communication technology is infiltrating the electoral process all over the world: <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000490.html#000490> Kenya elections <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000494.html#000494> Korean elections <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000497.html#000497> Karl Rove and US elections <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000601.html> Hungarian elections <http://www.smartmobs.com/archives/000596.html> Mobile lobbying: my forecast
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permalink #246 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Thu 30 Jan 03 11:36
permalink #246 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Thu 30 Jan 03 11:36
I am speaking tonight, in a duet with Craig Newmark, at the Mechanics Institute Library in San Francisco, 57 Post Street. Socializing at 5:30, talk at 6:00.
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permalink #247 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Fri 31 Jan 03 10:27
permalink #247 of 280: Howard Rheingold (hlr) Fri 31 Jan 03 10:27
Great showing at the Mechanics' Institute Library last night, and one of my literary ideals, the inimitable <sumac> showed up and bought a book. Thank you, Sue, and other Wellites who showed up for a very thought-provocative dialogue. For those who are interested, Henry Jenkins wrote an interesting piece comparing Warren Ellis' new book with Smart Mobs: <http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/wo_jenkins013103.asp>
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permalink #248 of 280: Gail Ann Williams (gail) Fri 31 Jan 03 10:35
permalink #248 of 280: Gail Ann Williams (gail) Fri 31 Jan 03 10:35
Howard, I just got a notice of something you're doing at KQED soon, can you post the particulars of that one for those of us in the Bay Area who missed you at the Mechanics' Institute Library?
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permalink #249 of 280: Eric Man (stet) Fri 31 Jan 03 11:05
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permalink #250 of 280: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 31 Jan 03 15:54
permalink #250 of 280: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 31 Jan 03 15:54
There's an echo in here!
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