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permalink #201 of 254: Charlie Stross (charlie-stross) Wed 12 Feb 03 17:41
permalink #201 of 254: Charlie Stross (charlie-stross) Wed 12 Feb 03 17:41
Been offline for a while -- there was no broadband on the Airbus. For me, the most consciousness-altering experience I've had lately was yesterday, when I got a guided tour of the MIT Media Lab! All I can say right now is wow. Just trying to wrap my head around what's going on there is making it spin -- I think I need a brain upgrade. In fact, that seems to be the idea -- the Media Lab is about new ways of thinking by using technology. Which seems to me to be circling around to the idea of meditation dissolving the distinction between conscious awareness and body via a different route; is blurring the bounday between self and non-self going to turn into a necessary prerequisite for using advanced information tools? Are we going to find out that we can only use intelligence-augmenting technologies by _praying_ ?
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permalink #202 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Wed 12 Feb 03 17:50
permalink #202 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Wed 12 Feb 03 17:50
I think there's really something to that. I manage a metric fuckload of information -- all the blogs and RSS I read for Boing Boing, all the mailing lists, all the books, magaizines, newspapers, TV, conversations. I just came from a three-hour briefing from a radio physicist on the physics of WiFi, from cognitive radio to long-haul/low-power CDMA to defeating Shannon's information theory limits with highly directional radio... I find that wehn I'm really in the groove, soaking up and processing all this stuff, I'm not full conscious -- I'm living inside my computer and on my phone. I can easily imagine a really high-speed, multifarious UI for monitoring a LOT of info that turns out to work best from/induce a light trance.
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permalink #203 of 254: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 12 Feb 03 19:58
permalink #203 of 254: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 12 Feb 03 19:58
Cory, I have a comment about the book. It may be a bit of a spoiler, though it is not a plot point per se. I'll post and hide in the next response.
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permalink #204 of 254: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 12 Feb 03 20:17
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permalink #205 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Wed 12 Feb 03 21:32
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permalink #206 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Thu 13 Feb 03 08:57
permalink #206 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Thu 13 Feb 03 08:57
I'll be doing a reading and signing at Borderlands Books (866 Valencia St., San Francisco), an excellent science fiction bookstore in the Mission, on Saturday February 15th, at 6PM. This'll be my first reading/signing for Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom -- I hope you can make it! http://www.borderlands-books.com/
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permalink #207 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Thu 13 Feb 03 17:43
permalink #207 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Thu 13 Feb 03 17:43
Well, we've got one more day on this interview before we wrap it up. Any more questions?
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permalink #208 of 254: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 13 Feb 03 22:21
permalink #208 of 254: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 13 Feb 03 22:21
Yeah - how was your run?
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permalink #209 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Thu 13 Feb 03 22:40
permalink #209 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Thu 13 Feb 03 22:40
Run?
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permalink #210 of 254: (jacob) Thu 13 Feb 03 22:52
permalink #210 of 254: (jacob) Thu 13 Feb 03 22:52
I have a question. Down & Out is pretty optimistic about the future, by and large. Does that reflect how you realistically think about the world, or just your upside viewpoint maybe?
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permalink #211 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Fri 14 Feb 03 07:06
permalink #211 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Fri 14 Feb 03 07:06
I think that technologically speaking, there's a lot to be optimistic *about*. I look around at the advances in tech that I've seen in my lifetime, and it feels like a good, old fashioned Age of Wonders. The seemingly magical increases in storage and processing power, the increasing innovations in spectrum use, and the bizarre and exciting social phenomena they're spawing make me feel like there's a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow, Shining at the End of Every Day. OTOH, professional civil liberatarians are, by nature, somewhat pessimistic about the future. It's hard to look at the domestic coups, the cynical manipulations of the political process, the anti-competitive actions, the disingenous abdridgement of the rights of privacy, travel, and dignity and not feel glum. But it's an odd kind of glum. It's not fatalistic. It's a glumness born of a sturdy belief that the future holds *lots* of promise, and the tragedy that awaits should the Valentis and Ashcrofts of the world get their way is made all the worse because it would foreclose such a magnificent future.
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permalink #212 of 254: Wild Bill Burrows and his friend G-Man (gjk) Fri 14 Feb 03 08:42
permalink #212 of 254: Wild Bill Burrows and his friend G-Man (gjk) Fri 14 Feb 03 08:42
Sure beats "A Boy and His Dog," that's for sure.
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permalink #213 of 254: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 14 Feb 03 11:51
permalink #213 of 254: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 14 Feb 03 11:51
Thanks, Cory and Charlie, for waxing futuristic over the last couple of weeks! We expected a lot and we weren't disappointed. A new discussion will be unveiled sometime today, but this one doesn't have to go away. Feel free to zip along ad infinitum: if we run out of space, we'll just make you another topic.
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permalink #214 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Fri 14 Feb 03 12:36
permalink #214 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Fri 14 Feb 03 12:36
I'm going to take it slow henceforth, if you don't mind. It's been a lot of fun, but I'm really running short on time, unfortunately. Thanks, everyone! Thanks, Charlie! Thanks, Jon!
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permalink #215 of 254: Wild Bill Burrows and his friend G-Man (gjk) Fri 14 Feb 03 14:38
permalink #215 of 254: Wild Bill Burrows and his friend G-Man (gjk) Fri 14 Feb 03 14:38
Thank you!
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permalink #216 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Fri 14 Feb 03 14:53
permalink #216 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Fri 14 Feb 03 14:53
My pleasure, Jack!
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permalink #217 of 254: turing testy (cascio) Fri 14 Feb 03 17:38
permalink #217 of 254: turing testy (cascio) Fri 14 Feb 03 17:38
Thanks, Cory!
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permalink #218 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Sat 15 Feb 03 12:50
permalink #218 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Sat 15 Feb 03 12:50
A reminder: my reading is tonight at Borderlands Books at 6PM. Borderlands is at 866 Valencia St. at 20th St. http://www.borderlands-books.com/
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permalink #219 of 254: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 15 Feb 03 13:26
permalink #219 of 254: Andrew Alden (alden) Sat 15 Feb 03 13:26
Looking forward to it!
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permalink #220 of 254: nape fest (zorca) Sat 15 Feb 03 14:18
permalink #220 of 254: nape fest (zorca) Sat 15 Feb 03 14:18
ditto.
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permalink #221 of 254: Charlie Stross (charlie-stross) Sun 16 Feb 03 07:37
permalink #221 of 254: Charlie Stross (charlie-stross) Sun 16 Feb 03 07:37
It's been great. (Sorry I haven't been around much this past week; I plead guilty to the charge of gratuitous foreign travel.)
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permalink #222 of 254: Adam Powell (rocket) Tue 25 Feb 03 08:57
permalink #222 of 254: Adam Powell (rocket) Tue 25 Feb 03 08:57
This week The Onion reviews Cory's book.
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permalink #223 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Tue 25 Feb 03 09:02
permalink #223 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Tue 25 Feb 03 09:02
Huh?
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permalink #224 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Tue 25 Feb 03 09:26
permalink #224 of 254: Life in the big (doctorow) Tue 25 Feb 03 09:26
Oh, in *tomorrow*'s ish! Wow! Hope they like it! Do they?
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permalink #225 of 254: Adam Powell (rocket) Tue 25 Feb 03 11:32
permalink #225 of 254: Adam Powell (rocket) Tue 25 Feb 03 11:32
Tasha Robinson reviewed it, and without giving much away-- well, we publish in 3 hours-- I'll tell you that she quite liked it. The last line is one that writers yearn for.
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