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Topic 240: The WELL at 20, with Howard Rheingold, Cliff Figallo and friends
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permalink #126 of 215: Shannon Clyne (vsclyne) Thu 31 Mar 05 20:27
permalink #126 of 215: Shannon Clyne (vsclyne) Thu 31 Mar 05 20:27
A contemporaneous account of early goings-on: http://www.jaedworks.com/shoebox/well/backroom.html
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permalink #127 of 215: one big petri dish (jnfr) Thu 31 Mar 05 21:19
permalink #127 of 215: one big petri dish (jnfr) Thu 31 Mar 05 21:19
Oh man, that's <jdevoto>. I really miss her.
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permalink #128 of 215: S*L*J*O (chuck) Thu 31 Mar 05 21:34
permalink #128 of 215: S*L*J*O (chuck) Thu 31 Mar 05 21:34
She is a rare, and missed, breath of fresh air. I miss her, too.
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permalink #129 of 215: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 31 Mar 05 21:44
permalink #129 of 215: Andrew Alden (alden) Thu 31 Mar 05 21:44
I thought the stuff she's writing about there happened in 1992 or 1993, not 1991.
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permalink #130 of 215: Shannon Clyne (vsclyne) Thu 31 Mar 05 21:54
permalink #130 of 215: Shannon Clyne (vsclyne) Thu 31 Mar 05 21:54
I think it is an <rbr> narrative, dated early in the emergence of the Well. I think Jean archived it.
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permalink #131 of 215: Hal Royaltey (hal) Thu 31 Mar 05 22:40
permalink #131 of 215: Hal Royaltey (hal) Thu 31 Mar 05 22:40
Reading all this does bring back some memories ... In just a few days (April 8) I'll be marking my 17th anniversary here, having arrived in 1988. I seem to have been one of the few relatively early members to arrive de novo. I liked the Dead (first time I saw 'em live was New Years Eve 66/67 at the Fillmore), but I was never a Deadhead. I was a techie, but didn't arrive here via some tech contact, in spite of living on the fringes of the Bay Area (Santa Cruz). I had bought the first Whole Earth catalog when it came out, and I'd read Coevolution Quarterly on occasion, but I wasn't hooked on it. I was at Autodesk from the very start. By 1986 we were in a building in Sausalito, but developers like myself often worked from home. We wanted a central repository for code and messages that farflung coders could dial into. Before we put up our own we used the Well for a short while. I retired from Autodesk in 1987 to my rural home in the hills above Santa Cruz. Like a lot of folks I had a CompuServe account, but .... So I dug out the old Well dialup number (415-332-6106) and connected. I signed up. I stayed. I hear that the Well's performance during the Loma Prieta earthquake was spectacular. Living just 15 miles from the epicenter I was a bit busy. We had no power for eight days. Our spring stopped producing water for two days. We had four horses, a full size pig, two dogs, four cats and two kids to take care of. The house was filled with broken glass and rotting food. Everything we owned was on the floor - much of it broken. Luckily we were on stable ground and the house itself suffered no real harm. The spring resumed production and eventually the power came back up. We survived. For me one of the Well's finest times was the aftermath of the 2000 election. I'm a political junkie and cohost the Politics conference here on the Well. The election 2000 topics - linked among Politics, News, and Current - filled up in a matter of hours at first, then in days. In essence we had thousands of correspondents on the scene in every hotspot. We had people scanning and analyzing the domestic and foreign press and bringing it back to us. The sharpest minds you could ever want to meet sucked up this info and produced some brilliant analysis. No one did this because they had to - it was a labor of love - but we were on top of the situation in a way that no one else in the country could be. Those topics are permanently archived.
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permalink #132 of 215: Runcible Spoonerism (bryan) Thu 31 Mar 05 22:53
permalink #132 of 215: Runcible Spoonerism (bryan) Thu 31 Mar 05 22:53
Not an rbr narrative, no--he wrote the epigraph.
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permalink #133 of 215: Shannon Clyne (vsclyne) Thu 31 Mar 05 23:03
permalink #133 of 215: Shannon Clyne (vsclyne) Thu 31 Mar 05 23:03
Wait! Jeanne was the Board member? She was the "I" in all that?
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permalink #134 of 215: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 31 Mar 05 23:20
permalink #134 of 215: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 31 Mar 05 23:20
Yes.
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permalink #135 of 215: wish you the very beat (tinymonster) Fri 1 Apr 05 07:14
permalink #135 of 215: wish you the very beat (tinymonster) Fri 1 Apr 05 07:14
Today's the day. Hipy Papy, WELL.
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permalink #136 of 215: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Fri 1 Apr 05 07:43
permalink #136 of 215: Idea Hamster On Speed (randomize27) Fri 1 Apr 05 07:43
20 years ago today..... I was a snotnosed kid in Galena, Mo with a book-learning-only idea of what a MODEM was. Where were you? Happy Birthday Well.
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permalink #137 of 215: Cliff Figallo (fig) Fri 1 Apr 05 08:38
permalink #137 of 215: Cliff Figallo (fig) Fri 1 Apr 05 08:38
Happy Billing Day! We were sure glad to be able to start charging!!! Hoo-boy! The only thing was, the great majority of customers put it on their credit card, and we couldn't find any tractor-feed credit card forms. So we'd get a huge stack of the single carbon-copy charge slips like you used to see in the local retailers, and we'd have to feed them one-by-one through our dot-matrix printer. The more members, the longer the monthly billing process. I started bringing them home and paying my kids to feed them through - one kid on the keyboard of the Compaq, the other slipping the form into the printer and restacking it. Eventually, we did find the tractor-feed forms, which saved a lot of time as long as there was no printer jam. Then it would turn back into a nightmare. I'd show up at Wells Fargo with my huge pile of printed vouchers and dump them on the counter. Most of the charges were for the flat monthly 8 bucks - a fact of WELL life that kept us afloat through all those years. The idle users. Thank youze!!!! And even more eventually - when we reached the humongous threshold of $30,000 billing per month - we could go digital and simply submit our billings through, of all things, a modem. Jeanne DeVoto, bless her heart, took on the onerous role of host/user representative on the Board just after Bruce Katz began attending board meetings in 1991. Here first exposure, therefore, was to Bruce taking over the meeting as the only one there with any money, and his grand plan to have the WELL become what amounted to a competitor to AOL. That was one long eye-rolling meeting and Jeanne excused herself from the board soon after. Then Tex quit, and four months after that, around this time in 1992, I announced my plans to quit.
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permalink #138 of 215: Josh Gordon (josh) Fri 1 Apr 05 09:17
permalink #138 of 215: Josh Gordon (josh) Fri 1 Apr 05 09:17
Hey everyone...long time no see... I first came to the Well real early, sometime in the mid-80s, when I was living in Berkeley. I was a long-time CQ reader (I _still_ won't call it by that new name), so I probably read about it there. I didn't stay very long (though last time I looked, at least one of my first postings was still there, in some or another software conference); it was too damned slow to justify keeping the phone tied up; besides that, I'd started my own BBS, a FidoNet node, and dedicated my online time to that. After I decided to give up on the BBS (and after it gave up on me), I caught up with the Well again sometime in the late 80s. Probably 1988 or so. The Well became a major part of my life. I probably averaged six hours a day, maybe eight, multi-tasking with whatever else I was doing. Hal's recollection of the 2000 election season coincides with mine -- it was the peak experience of my tenure as a conference host. The Well was the fount of many of the most important things in my life. It kept me going through years of clinical depression (that was the source of my hermit-like behaviour); even though I wasn't physically isolated like some other people, it was really my only social outlet. It was the Well that got me (and several of my friends) connected with eBay, which turned out rather nice for us. It was on the Well where I discovered an important truism: just because someone annoys me, it doesn't mean their advice is bad (thank you <sofia>, and I wish I'd listened.) It was on the Well that I learned another important truism: when all your friends tell you to get a lawyer, you should probably get a lawyer (thanks, and you know who you are.) And most important was the reason I left the Well. My beloved and I found each other through the Well, and once we had found each other, we had neither the reason nor the desire to spend all of our waking hours here; we had each other to talk to, and anything we might have said on the Well, we say to one another. The last time I was on the Well, I'm pretty sure, was the day after she and I got engaged; we checked in from midtown Manhattan on 9/11/2001. There are times I miss the Well. Sometimes, when I have an odd question about something or another, I particularly feel it. I've been reluctant to return, because it's such an interesting time suck (and, frankly, I don't miss the negative small-town aspects one bit.) But the Well was a vital part of my life for a decade and a half, and I'll be ever grateful that such a community existed when I needed it so well.
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permalink #139 of 215: Evan Hodgens (evan) Fri 1 Apr 05 09:26
permalink #139 of 215: Evan Hodgens (evan) Fri 1 Apr 05 09:26
Josh! Good to see you. Although I am allowed in the oldtimers.pri conference, I joined in late 1994, and I never am really going to feel like an old timer. >For me one of the Well's finest times was the aftermath of the 2000 election. And then there was 9/11, and the following war on Afganistan, when the <attack.> conference was created, and we had a genuine been-there, done-that war reporter, <dkline>, to tell us far more and from a very personal perspective about who was who and who'd done what to whom when. There is no other place on Earth, that I know of, that you could learn about Afganistan and its travails in such a way.
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permalink #140 of 215: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Fri 1 Apr 05 09:40
permalink #140 of 215: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Fri 1 Apr 05 09:40
Fig, you and tex quit because Bruce's plan was too commercial and too grandiose?
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permalink #141 of 215: Jon Jackson (jonj) Fri 1 Apr 05 09:45
permalink #141 of 215: Jon Jackson (jonj) Fri 1 Apr 05 09:45
Great to see you, <josh>
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permalink #142 of 215: Cliff Figallo (fig) Fri 1 Apr 05 10:40
permalink #142 of 215: Cliff Figallo (fig) Fri 1 Apr 05 10:40
I can't speak entirely for Tex, but I quit because I was tuckered out and the Board refused to allow me to raise our rates enough to cover our expenses. I wanted to hire a technical manager, but we couldn't afford it. It turned out that by talking Mo into taking over my job, the WELL could (1) get a technically sophisticated Director with good WELL user DNA and (2) blackmail the Board into allowing the new Director to raise the rates. The Board couldn't find anyone with anything like Mo's qualifications. The WELL would not have accepted a complete stranger as its new Director - there was a LOT of ferment at that time. There were meetings happening...the natives were restless.
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permalink #143 of 215: Cliff Figallo (fig) Fri 1 Apr 05 10:47
permalink #143 of 215: Cliff Figallo (fig) Fri 1 Apr 05 10:47
As part of my current work, I'm tracking an email list about permaculture. One of the threads is about rock dust. Remember <untitled>?
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permalink #144 of 215: David Gans (tnf) Fri 1 Apr 05 11:04
permalink #144 of 215: David Gans (tnf) Fri 1 Apr 05 11:04
Josh! I can't begin to tell you how much I miss you around here.
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permalink #145 of 215: David Gans (tnf) Fri 1 Apr 05 11:04
permalink #145 of 215: David Gans (tnf) Fri 1 Apr 05 11:04
> And with Mr. Gans' appearance and mentions of MaryE, I'm reminded of how > our relationship with the GD community formed and staggered along. Bennett > Falk was the nerdy one, David "maddog" Gans was the musical one and Mary > (Computer Currents) Eisenhart was the writing one. Dude, that's Mary (MicroTimes) Eisenhart! > But we apparently didn't have our "bona fides" together in their eyes and > for a couple years at least we were reminded that the GD people could just > up and leave us if we crossed them. I don't remember it that way, but I was decidedly more cantankerous in those days than I am now (and I owe a hell of a lot of my character growth to ex- periences and friendships here in the WELL). We did come here looking to test out ideas before investing in our own BBS. Mary and Bennett knew a good deal more about this stuff than I did, but they were turning me on to their knowledge - and one night in the balcony of the Henry J. Kaiser Auditorium, we all got hit by the same bolt of Edisonian lightning; we arrived separately at a party after the show with a big idea to share with the others. We knew this was a community that existed within other than geographical boundaries, and this technology was a perfect way for us to meet and confer. Mary knew about the WELL and the offer of free accounts to people with inter- esting ideas. She had an account there already, and I think Bennett did, too; I signed on in December of 1985, and we opened the gd conference on March 1, 1986. We passed out flyers in Provo Park when the Dead played the BCT in April, and that brought in a lot of wonderful people, including <danlevy>, still one my favorite humans and now the host of the dylan conference. The gd conference took off like a shot, and we never left. People bought com- puters and modems and learned how to use them just so they could be here. I melted into the greater community here (the mind conference was the most amazingly funny hangout I could ever have imagined) and, somewhat to Mary's frustration, lost all interest in creating a separate online world. Ah, the mind conference. I remember sitting at a desk in our apartment on Buena Vista West, socked in with fog as the wind howled, roaring with laughter while nana, mandel, hlr, bulbhead, and others were all posting at once in a topic called "laundromania." That was just as hard to explain as "bang fortune minus O" to the hapless SO, but much, much more compelling to me.
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permalink #146 of 215: Gail Williams (gail) Fri 1 Apr 05 11:11
permalink #146 of 215: Gail Williams (gail) Fri 1 Apr 05 11:11
Josh! hooray. So great to see you back! The hosting of the 2000 election results marathon was such a high point here, despite the ultimate results. What a ride that was. Cliff, the idea of credit card billing before anybody had online credit card processing and settlement services is mind-boggling. Just astonishing.
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permalink #147 of 215: Alan M. Eshleman (doctore) Fri 1 Apr 05 12:10
permalink #147 of 215: Alan M. Eshleman (doctore) Fri 1 Apr 05 12:10
I joined the WELL 15 years ago. My original purpose was to try and find an old friend with whom Id lost touch. The friend was Tom <mandel> Mandel. Tom and I became friends in Hawaii in the early 70s. Tom was just back from a hitch with Marines in Vietnam and I was a graduate student, antiwar activist at the University of Hawaii. We got along just fine. Sometime in the late 80s--when Tom was working for SRI down on the Peninsula--we lost connection for a year or so, but I remembered that he had said something about some sort of computer thing called the WELL. Being a computer illiterate at the time, I made a few trips to the WELLs Gate 5 Road office for some face-to-face instruction. Once I figured out how to make everything work, it didnt take long to find Tom. Wow, was I surprised by the difference between his on-line persona and the man I thought I knew. Sadly, Tom is no longer with us. I remember Howards wonderful eulogy, delivered at a chapel somewhere in the hills above Palo Alto. In 1991, Uncle Sam in the form of the National Health Service Corps shipped me out to Rockford IL to provide services for the medically indigent population of Winnebago County. During that time of exile from the Bay Area the WELL was a real lifeline to home and friends. Rockford is the childhood home of Stewart Brand. Stewart read some of my dispatches from Rockford that were posted in the Berkeley Conference and wrote to tell me that they captured the spirit of Midwestern claustrophobia. The next year, while home from Rockford on vacation, I participated in my first WELL-inspired singthing at the home of <reva> and <jcs>. The singthings continue to this day and they remain one of the joys of my WELL experience. After I got back to Northern California I was approached by <tex> to host a health and medicine group for SFGate. That eventually evolved into an occasional online column Doctor Es Diary. <doctore> BTW, is not meant to sound Latin. I took the name from what one of my nurses called me, Doctor E. She had trouble saying Eshleman. Fast forward to 1998. My medical group was getting into the WWW in a big way and looking for a physician with on-line experience. That was me. Today I divide my professional time between seeing patients and being the Chief Medical Editor of Kaisers members Web site. I owe much to the WELL. I hope to see many of you at the party.
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permalink #148 of 215: Gail Williams (gail) Fri 1 Apr 05 12:13
permalink #148 of 215: Gail Williams (gail) Fri 1 Apr 05 12:13
Remind me about <untitled>
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permalink #149 of 215: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Fri 1 Apr 05 12:18
permalink #149 of 215: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Fri 1 Apr 05 12:18
Wow, Cliff, you took a bullet for the WELL.
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permalink #150 of 215: Cliff Figallo (fig) Fri 1 Apr 05 12:24
permalink #150 of 215: Cliff Figallo (fig) Fri 1 Apr 05 12:24
I don't look at it that way, Paul. It was time for me to move on for a bunch of reasons. Microtimes/Computer Currents....eh, like I say, I'm a bit addled though I still have old issues of Microtimes stashed somewhere, with articles about the WELL turning yellow inside them. <untitled> was a manic young man who insisted on posting paraphrases of Bucky Fuller in poetic format. He had an agenda and a belief that through the global application of rock dust, we could slow the degradation of the environment and prevent the melting of glaciers. He was not conversational and would post his non sequiturs in the most inappropriate places, eventually leading to demands that we boot him. We didn't like to boot people, so we gave him his own conference where he could channel his considerable energy. He was the WELL bane du jour during a certain time. I'd love to know who he was and what became of him.
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