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permalink #126 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 09:27
permalink #126 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 09:27
Clay, tell us about the CD that comes with the book.
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permalink #127 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 09:41
permalink #127 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 09:41
I just added two more files to the audio page - "Why Did He Have to Leave?" by Harry Waller, and the iterview excerpts. Both are from the CD that comes with the book. http://www.dgans.com/goodman
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permalink #128 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 12 Sep 07 10:59
permalink #128 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 12 Sep 07 10:59
How many artists can you think of who have inspired more than 25 people to write and record songs in tribute to the artist or that mention the artist significantly? I can't think of any, but this is what I encountered in my eight years of research into Steve Goodman. As I interviewed people for the book, occasionally someone would mention a demo track or an obscure song on a CD that referenced Goodman or was devoted to him. When this would happen, I told myself that I would mention these tracks in the last chapter of the book as evidence that Goodman continues to have influence. But as I kept discovering these stellar tracks and the number kept growing, I decided I needed to do something more with them. At some point was born the idea of a CD to accompany the book. My goal with the CD was not just to document Goodman's influence but also to shed light on songs and artists deserving more attention, much as Goodman and his work deserved to be heard in his own early days. I also trusted that the CD artists would be honored by the association and inclined to spread word about the book. Because this was already a big book (8x10 format, 800 pages, 547 photos), it was important that the CD not add significantly to the cost of production. To my lasting gratitude, all of the artists graciously allowed me to use the tracks gratis, so deep was their regard for Steve Goodman. This -- along with the Herculean efforts of my volunteer engineer, Joe Novak, of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania -- minimized the CD's added production cost and made it possible for my publisher to agree to the plan. The material that seemed most appropriate for the CD amounted to 18 tracks by 17 artists from all over the United States and from Canada, England and Australia. Their variety of voices, styles, tempos and arrangements allowed me to assemble them much the way Goodman paced his own shows -- opening with a couple of rousers, taking the audience up and down and up again, closing with a flourish and letting the audience out the door with a quiet tune. Anyone can read the CD's full annotation (and listen to sound clips of each musical track) by going to my Internet site, clayeals.com, finding the "Inside the Book" tab and clicking on the page titled "The CD." It's the same detailed annotation found in the back pages of the book itself. Suffice to say, however, that this is a collection of quality. Not every track will be a favorite for every listener, but I do think the songs hold together, that they are all of a piece. This owes, in part, to the consistent theme of mortality, sometimes explicit and at other times metaphorical, sometimes sad and at other times uplifting. The theme is truly universal, and it matches the theme of the book. It's nice, David, that you chose to make available on your site Harry Waller's track, "Why Did He Have to Leave?," because its down-to-earth story emulates the best of Goodman's songcrafting. Harry's song is the tale of a friendship, literally from beginning to end, in all its joy, gratitude and poignancy. In assembling the CD, I was tempted to include some of Steve's own tunes, but I decided it was important from the standpoint of journalistic ethics to leave overt selling of Goodman's music to the management firm that represents his estate. Still, I wanted to somehow include Steve directly on the CD. The best avenue that I could come up with was to append at the end a sample of Steve's spoken voice, which has been absent from our consciousness for far too long. I was heartened when Chicago's WXRT-FM gave me permission to include excerpts from a wonderful interview of Steve conducted by John Platt in 1975. These clips, totaling more than 6 minutes, reveal the warmth, self-deprecation and passion of Goodman's persona. I mean, how can you beat hearing Steve say, "Im crazy about this stuff. Im goofy about music goofy, yhear? Nuts, goofy." That people are enjoying the CD so much and grasping its purpose and value is deeply satisfying to me. It has become yet another way for Goodman's unique and affecting legacy to live.
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permalink #129 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 12:33
permalink #129 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 12:33
How much of a presence do you think Steve Goodman has these days? Does he get played by folk music DJs? Is he still heard in Chicago?
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permalink #130 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 12 Sep 07 14:28
permalink #130 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 12 Sep 07 14:28
That's quite the open-ended question, David. Presence can be measured in so many ways, and I addressed many of them in the last chapter of the book. One of the ways, it has to be said, is the existence of the book itself. In death, as when he was alive, Goodman still doesn't swim in the mainstream, but it is no small feat that several of his songs, such as "City of New Orleans" and "Go, Cubs, Go," are known by millions, even if Goodman himself is not known. It's not a stretch to envision a superstar artist giving Goodman prominence by making a national hit with one of Steve's stellar songs, although in today's fragmented melange of niche markets, a "national hit" ain't what it used to be. I have no objective count of how often Goodman is played by folk deejays nationally. But I have plenty of affirmative anecdotal evidence, from the playlists I see on the Internet and receive via e-mail, as well as just listening to the radio in the cities I've visited in the past eight years. Also, many of the hosts for the 31 radio interviews I've done since May have indicated that they play Goodman regularly. In Chicago, as we've already addressed, 40,000 fans at Wrigley hear "Go, Cubs, Go" whenever the Cubs win there, plus WGN still uses snippets of the song in "bumpers" during game broadcasts. Rich Warren, longtime host of WFMT's Saturday-night "Midnight Special," plays Goodman and Goodman-related material quite faithfully. The same is true for WNUR, based at Northwestern University, and other Chicago-area stations. Many people have told me rather sardonically that it's tough for a guy to promote himself once he's no longer alive. But even though Goodman has been dead for 23 years, his reputation remains almost God-like in many music circles, old and young, which owes to the quality of his songs and the endearing persona that endures in the memories of so many. It's important to note that Steve's impact is bolstered by the fact that if he had lived, he would be 59 today, which is smack in the middle of the baby boom, the largest generational demographic the country has ever seen. If Steve were alive, he likely would try to dismiss any such talk. With wisdom triggered by a death sentence, he often quipped, "A hundred years, all new people." Still, I think it's a noble quest to keep alive and pass along to succeeding generations the stories and work of uniquely inspiring people such as Goodman. It's part of the ingrained desire of all of us to somehow live beyond our years, to transcend mortality. It's interesting to ponder how Steve himself did just that in only 36 years.
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permalink #131 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 15:52
permalink #131 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 15:52
He sure was a big influence on me. I saw Goodman many times in the '70s and early '80s, when I was developing my own skills as a songwriter and per- former. From Goodman I learned that it was possible, and desirable, to be sentimental AND sardonic AND eclectic AND silly all in one performance. So many of his songs are perfect gems of topical writing - "Veg-O-Matic" springs to mind: a song about a guy who falls asleep in front of the TV set and dreams he bought all the stuff they advertise on late-night shows. Fact is, I'm trying to channel Steve at this very moment! I'm scheduled to play on West Coast Live ( www.wcl.org ) Saturday morning, and because this week's show is being broadcast from the farmers' market at the San Francisco Ferry Building, I was asked to sing two songs on food-related themes. So I'm going to do "Chicken Cordon Bleus," and I gave myself an assignment to write a new song about shopping at the farmers' market. This is not the sort of song that needs a Robert Hunter or Bob Dylan sort of mystery/hallucination vibe - this song needs the sort of warmth, wit, and specificity that was a hallmark of Steve Goodman's writing. I am quite sure that a good deadl of the inspiration I'm feeling as I work on it is a direct result of my reading your book, talking with you here, and rediscovering my deep love of Steve's music.
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permalink #132 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 12 Sep 07 16:56
permalink #132 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 12 Sep 07 16:56
Thanks for the kind words, David. You're probably well down the road in writing the song, but if you're looking for ideas, perhaps you can fold in specifics about how the Farmer's Market contrasts with all the processed, packaged, homogenized, media-ized food that bombards all of us from all corners every day. That might be in the spirit of Goodman. An insight to Goodman's approach (from page 185 of the book) is found in a March 1972 conversation about songwriting that Steve had with Roy Leonard of WGN-AM in Chicago: "Im not good at makin up songs. I guess Im not too good at fiction. I guess I can surround real events with some fiction every now and then to dress em up, but I dont come up with fictional situations too often. I kind of have to see it first." He continued the self-deprecating theme two months later with the now-late Los Angeles "Folkscene" radio host Howard Larman: "Its just using your eyes, really. My big trouble is that I dont use em well enough, because I usually filter what I see through my own set of experiences and stuff like that too much. Its very hard for anybody around to take an objective view of anything yknow, just describe it. Sometimes what you think is the best poetry in the world is just somebody using their eyes right and just tryin to describe what they saw rather than what they felt about what they saw. Then it makes the listener or the reader of the poetry do the work. ... The good poets use the kinds of words that will help you paint the picture in your own head."
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permalink #133 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 17:35
permalink #133 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 17:35
Self-deprecating, for sure, but not unexpected. I think a lot of creative people think of themselves mostly in terms of their limitations, because they spend a good deal f their time and attention trying to escape them. A lot of Goodman's songs are journalism, albeit extra colorful. "City of New Orleans" and "Lincoln Park Pirates" aren't so far from, say a Mike Royko column. But what about "Donald and Lydia"? I suppose that could have been based on real events, but I'd put my money on "delicious feat of imagination."
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permalink #134 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 12 Sep 07 18:57
permalink #134 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 12 Sep 07 18:57
Therein lies a rub, no pun intended. "Donald and Lydia" is a Prine song!
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permalink #135 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 19:32
permalink #135 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 19:32
I thoguht they co-wrote it! Dang, I shoulda checked.
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permalink #136 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 19:33
permalink #136 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 19:33
Duh. Of course. "Souvenirs" was their first cllaboration, right?
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permalink #137 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 21:10
permalink #137 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 21:10
That'll teach me to post when I'm distracted.
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permalink #138 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 21:53
permalink #138 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 21:53
I mentioned this interview on the GD HOur mailing list, and I got permission to repost this response: From: Ozoid Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:44:31 -0500 Subject: [GDH] Fwd: Steve Goodman, the Cubs & the Old Town School ...as I write this the Cubs just regained a share of 1st in the NL central. When they win at home, the PA blasts out "Go, Cubs, Go!" and 40K fans sing along with the hook like a great saloon crowd at midnight on a Saturday, and Steve's getting a lot of airplay this year. Or at least more than usual. Continuing the unconventional retail outlets for music thread (Starbucks, etc.), I'm sure more than a few fans have picked up a Goodman collection after a game. Just like Nick Drake's career was rejuvenated -- years after he'd died -- when a track of his was used for a VW Cabriolet commercial. The Homer & Jethro stuff is great, and Homer had great chops too, but my favorite Jethro album, Back to Back, was produced by none other than David Grisman and featured Burns with Grisman's other favorite mandolinist, Tiny Moore, who'd been a Texas Playboy for a long time, then resurfaced years later in Merle Haggard's strangers. Moore played an electric that looked like a shrunken Strat. For the rhythm section, Grisman brought in Ray Brown (founding member of the Modern Jazz Quartet), long-time LA jazz session drummer, Shelley Mann, and another Wills alumnus, Eldon Shamblin, on rhythm guitar. And of course, Grisman couldn't resist sitting in on a track or 2. Tunes copped from all over, including Django, Dizzy, and Bill Monroe. Fred and others reasonably close to Chicago might be interested to know that the Old Town School of Folk Music is planning a big anniversary concert at Louis Sullivan's Auditorium Theatre on Dec. 1. Here's the lineup: Jeff Tweedy, Bela Fleck & Abigail Washburn, David Bromberg, Roger McGuinn, Lonnie Brooks with Wayne Baker Brooks and Nick Tremulis, Frank Hamilton, The Bloodshot Family Band (featuring The Robbie Fulks Band with Jon Langford, Kelly Hogan, Sally Timms & Nora O'Connor), Luna Negra Dance Theater, Bonnie Koloc, Corky Siegel, Sones de México Ensemble, and The Old Town School Players.
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permalink #139 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 22:56
permalink #139 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 12 Sep 07 22:56
Ozoid also mentions Hank Snow's cover of "City of New Orleans," noting "I've never heard a voice deliver 'Good morning, America' as well as his."
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permalink #140 of 249: "The Best for Your Health!" (rik) Thu 13 Sep 07 07:18
permalink #140 of 249: "The Best for Your Health!" (rik) Thu 13 Sep 07 07:18
Of course. He's Canadian.
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permalink #141 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 08:55
permalink #141 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 08:55
!!!
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permalink #142 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 08:56
permalink #142 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 08:56
Also from Ozoid: > Here's a question for Clay: has an ad agency ever approached Steve or his > estate about licensing City of New Orleans? > I used to write about TV commercials and that line always seemed perfect > for a cereal commercial, as if it had been written specifically for one, > although of course I'm sure that was far from Steve's mind when he wrote > it.
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permalink #143 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:17
permalink #143 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:17
"Souvenirs" also is a Prine-only song. It just seems like a Prine-Goodman collaboration because they memorably dueted on it. The first songwriting collaboration of Goodman and Prine was "You Never Even Call Me by My Name," which has a hilarious genesis detailed in the book. A summary wouldn't do the story justice, but the composition started out in Goodman's hands as a sad song that with Prine's prodding became a delicious country parody. Of course, context is everything, and Prine was quite happy at the time while Goodman was not. The writing session took place in a New York hotel room in 1971 after the two had guested memorably during a Kristofferson set at the Bitter End and Prine was immediately offered a record contract whereas Goodman was being held in contract limbo for what turned out to be five weeks. Early written references to "You Never Even Call Me by My Name" omitted Prine's name as a co-writer because Prine didn't want to be associated with a song that made fun of country music. But in concert, Goodman often told the story of his songwriting collaboration with Prine, and Prine finally received written co-writing credit for the song on Goodman's live "Artistic Hair" LP in 1983. Good to see the references by Ozoid to "Go, Cubs, Go" and Jethro Burns. I hope Ozoid gets to read the previous exchanges on those topics in this conversation. There's a great Hank Snow-Steve Goodman connection that few people know about. On Dec. 11, 1972, the Apollo 17 astronauts riding in the capsule "America" had reached lunar orbit, and mission control in Houston opted to wake them from slumber by playing "City of New Orleans" starting with the phrase "Good morning, America, how are you?" (The recording that they used was John Denver's cover of the song.) One of the three astronauts was Harrison "Jack" Schmitt, the first scientist and non-military-trained pilot in space, who also was a big Hank Snow fan. After "City of New Orleans" was played for the trio, Schmitt told mission control, "We're movin' on," a reference to Snow's #1 hit "I'm Movin' On." Schmitt even drawled the first words of the Snow song, "That-a big eight-wheeler ..." Schmitt went on to become a U.S. senator from New Mexico.
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permalink #144 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:26
permalink #144 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:26
In 1976, the pre-breakup Bell System contracted with Buddah Records, which administered the usage rights for "City of New Orleans," to make a centerpiece of its TV ads the musical phrase "Good morning, America." In 1998, after Goodman's management firm had acquired full rights for the song, an ad agency inked a six-figure contract to use the same phrase in TV ads showing a young woman in a nightgown sitting up in bed, her arms outstretched in elation. The product advertised was Ex-Lax.
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permalink #145 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:31
permalink #145 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:31
In 1976, Chicago radio host Studs Terkel poked at Goodman about advertisers' use of the signature phrase from his best-known song. "At least I didnt sign up with the John Birch Society," Goodman told Terkel. "Yknow, when you sign a deal with a record company, you get something. I wanted to make a record. Now you have to give something if you want to get something, and I gave up the administration and the publishing of those tunes." "You gave up a good deal, ysee," Terkel replied. "Yeah, well, but Studs, I got a good deal. Im actually making a living playing the guitar and singing, so Im not gonna sit here and cry to you and tell you how hard it is to do this, right?" Terkel then invoked a phrase he said had been coined by Big Bill Broonzy, "those people with dollar signs for eyes." "Yeah, but they cant have my heart, Studs," Steve said. "They can have my signature ... and 100 years from now, it wont make any difference."
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permalink #146 of 249: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:35
permalink #146 of 249: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:35
Studs - ever the idealist!
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permalink #147 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:46
permalink #147 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:46
I have to agree with Steve's response.
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permalink #148 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:49
permalink #148 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:49
I saw Hank Snow receive an award n TV once. This was 15+ years ago. He got up onstage to receive the award and said something like, "None of this would have been possible without the love of my wife of [??] years: "Mrs. Hank Snow!" It just cracked me up. "You coulda SAID HER NAME, ferchrissakes!" I shouted at the screen.
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permalink #149 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:50
permalink #149 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Thu 13 Sep 07 09:50
Well, now that I hav ecompletely embarrassed myself by getting the facts wrong on "Donald and Lydia" and "Souvenirs," mhow about telling us about some other Goodman collaborations?
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permalink #150 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Thu 13 Sep 07 10:26
permalink #150 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Thu 13 Sep 07 10:26
No cause for embarrassment, David. It's just that Goodman, though he constantly credited the songwriting of others and promoted them far more than he did himself (Prine is a sterling example), had a way of making other people's songs his own. A case in point is "The Dutchman" by Michael Smith. Not to downgrade Smith's own version of what has become his signature song (thanks to Goodman), but it is hard to imagine a more beautiful or affecting version of the song than Goodman's. In part, the appeal of Goodman's version is related to Steve's own mortality, but take that away and you still have a gorgeous rendition by Goodman, studio or live, take your pick. Smith makes for a good segue to your next question. The two came to revere each other. Goodman's version of Smith's "The Wonderful World of Sex" triggered Steve's first stage performance at the Philadelphia Folk Festival, in 1970. Goodman valued Smith's songs so much that he included one on each of three LPs in a row from 1973 through 1976 (the songs: "The Dutchman," "Spoon River" and "Roving Cowboy"). Smith, after living in southern California, south Florida and Detroit, moved to Chicago, where he remains today, largely because Goodman's versions of his songs let him find steady musical work there. It was only natural that the two ended up writing songs together. Back in November 1999, Smith was one of my first book interviewees, and he talked eloquently about writing songs with Goodman. It also was an honor to hear Smith explain that process during a panel discussion last May at the Old Town School of Folk Music, part of the school's "Steve Goodman Weekend" to launch my just-published book. Smith said writing with Goodman was like dropping a coin into a pop machine. It was Smith's role to come up with the topic for a song. Doing so amounted to slipping the coin into the machine. Goodman, of course, was the machine. In seemingly only five minutes, Goodman would complete the whole song and then play it for Smith, complete with guitar frills and facial expressions as if Smith were a paying audience. Their collaborations were among the funniest songs in Goodman's repertoire: "Elvis Imitators," "Talk Backwards" and "Vegematic."
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