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permalink #176 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Sun 16 Sep 07 12:09
permalink #176 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Sun 16 Sep 07 12:09
The song is about the farmers' market, but the performance was on a radio show: West Coast Live. I "finished" the song at around midnight Friday, and the performance on the radio show went very well. "Bounty of the County" only: http://www.dgans.com/audio/bounty.070915.mp3 The whole West Coast Live segment: http://www.dgans.com/audio/DG-WCL_070915.mp3 It feels very Goodmanish to me - fun, personal and universal at the same time, warm, sweet. My wife gets co-writer credit because she's the one who had all the real knowledge of what produce happens at what time of the year. The Bounty of the County by David Gans and Rita Hurault Copyright 2007 Whispering Hallelujah (BMI) I can't live the way I did When I was an immortal kid The things that I ingested were a crime. All that sugar, starch, and lard Were makin' my aorta hard And I'd prefer to live a long, long time So on market day in our home town We rise and shine and head on down Where the families and the farmers meet and thrive Because we're taking nature's course We get it fresh right from the source Where the bounty of the county comes alive We'll get yellow finn potatoes And some fat heirloom tomatoes I think the ones that look the weirdest taste the best I'll buy fish while you go Look for English peas for Hugo And then we'll shop together for the rest 'Cause on market day in our home town We rise and shine and head on down Where the families and the farmers meet and thrive Because we're taking nature's course We get it fresh right from the source Where the bounty of the county comes alive Nature has her reasons So we'll eat our foods in season And I'm gonna be more vocal 'Bout thinking global, eating local Peaches are all done, by gosh But soon we'll have Kabocha squash And the leeks and yams are lookin' mighty good Now darlin' don't be bummin' You know those figs are comin' And honey from the bees in the hood Cherries won't be back til June But pomegranates are comin' soon Winter greens are sweeter when it's cold We keep our diet balanced Because modern life's a challenge But its many pleasures can't be oversold So on market day in our home town We rise and shine and head on down Where the families and the farmers meet and thrive Because we're taking nature's course We get it fresh right from the source Where the bounty of the county comes alive
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permalink #177 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Sun 16 Sep 07 12:11
permalink #177 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Sun 16 Sep 07 12:11
Now, on to more serious matters. We need to talk about Steve Goodman's leukemia. He was diagnosed at a very young age and not expected to survive mroe than a couple of years, but he defied the odds and covered a lot of ground before it finally got the best of him.
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permalink #178 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Mon 17 Sep 07 11:04
permalink #178 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Mon 17 Sep 07 11:04
Nice song, David. The specifics are indeed Goodmanlike, and I like your assessment: "fun, personal and universal at the same time, warm, sweet." The rhyme of "balanced" and "challenge" is inspired, sort of like "ruined" and "lagoon" in "Lincoln Park Pirates." And yes, to answer a previous question, Jef Jaisun did play his "Flying with the Angels" Goodman tribute song at my reading/music event yesterday in West Seattle. It was a gentle version, tailored to the sparse audience. To lighten things back up afterward, Jef threw in a verse and chorus of "Men Who Love Women Who Love Men." Jef seems born to the stage, like Steve. Leukemia. The diagnosis came as a thud to 20-year-old Steve in late 1968. Imagine being told you have an incurable disease at that age. No one would give him a simplistic, made-for-TV prognosis of how long he had to live, but it was no mystery that his remaining time was short. Effective leukemia treatment was in its infancy, and Steve was a mere guinea pig. "We were just beginning to crack acute leukemia," one of Steves oncologists at NYC's Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, Dr. Monroe Dowling, told me. "Most of the people with leukemia were going to be dead in six months. We didnt have cures, and we were just beginning to really understand it. We had a lot of drugs that we could do things with, but we didnt know necessarily the best way to use them, so we were learning about that. It was essentially a disease in which you did experimental work." No question, the diagnosis shook Steve to his core. Burning with musical fire, he quit college and, between intense and unsavory treatment at Sloan-Kettering, plunged headlong into performing and his first serious songwriting. Who knows whether we would have "City of New Orleans" and many other classic Goodman songs today if not for the leukemia diagnosis? There is no way to answer the what-if questions definitively. There are only indications. Surely, Steve was a driven persona long before his diagnosis, and there is ample evidence of his love of music in his high-school and grade-school years. But if he had not been diagnosed with leukemia, would music have become -- as his father, Bud, put it -- Steve's vocation instead of his avocation? Who can say? The fact is that Steve lived life as fully as possible after his diagnosis. "I figured I was a time bomb," he later told one journalist. Many believe that music was the life force that enabled Steve to survive far longer post-diagnosis (15-plus years) than others with the same diagnosis. It's also plausible that Steve's songs were all the more effective and affecting because he had death on his shoulder. Mortality oozed from his compositions -- not in a cold or bleak manner but with an endearing cleverness and charm. Certainly, "City of New Orleans" is a metaphor for the death of things both inanimate and living. The theme is inescapable in his other songs as well: "The I Dont Know Where Im Goin but Im Goin Nowhere in a Hurry Blues" is an obvious hint. In "Somebody Elses Troubles", Goodman depicted an eager undertaker. An extended traveling-salesman joke bore a mordant punch line and title: "Death of a Salesman." The sly advice of "Between the Lines" referenced a death certificate. "The Twentieth Century Is Almost Over" noted the impatient toe tapping of Old Father Time and presaged the end of an era. "Video Tape" danced around the Grim Reaper. "My Old Man" achingly recounted his fathers early demise. The sport in which "hope springs eternal" was the backdrop for the most blatant of his musical obituaries, "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request." And the title of "The One That Got Away" said it all. Though these and many other references may have been clues to his disease, Steve's intention was anything but overt. He kept his leukemia a secret as long as he could, wanting to be known for his craft and not as "the sick guy." When his leukemia relapsed in mid-1982, he missed a couple of prominent New York bookings and was outed, so to speak. For the next couple of years, until his death in September 1984, Steve fielded questions about his disease with a mix of facts and gallows humor. "Theres a lot of misplaced hysteria about cancer," he told the Philadelphia Daily News. "Did you know that one out of four people in this country have some kind of oncological experience, even if its just getting a small piece of skin removed? If youre in a room with three other people and none of them has cancer, maybe its time for you to go see the doctor." Pressed by the Nashville Tennessean on whether his leukemia had given him spiritual insight, Steve said: "I come from a Jewish family, and my wifes dad is a preacher. Weve evolved our own non-secular way of dealing with eternity. Look, we all face the same odds. You run the same chance I do. You could be run over crossing the street this afternoon. ... All this is just a reminder that we only have so long here. It just means be productive while you can." Which brings us back to the last song on the last LP that Steve put together before he died, "You Better Get It While You Can."
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permalink #179 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Mon 17 Sep 07 21:52
permalink #179 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Mon 17 Sep 07 21:52
With I read the word "Vincristine" in the book, my blood curdled a bit. My wife is one of those who benefited from the research that Steve was part of: vincristine was one of the chemicals in the CHOP-R treatment she received for lymphoma a few years back. Her treatment was successful, in the sense that more than three years after it ended, she has no sign of the disease. I interviewed Steve (by phone) after a bone marrow transplant - was it from his brother?
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permalink #180 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Mon 17 Sep 07 22:08
permalink #180 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Mon 17 Sep 07 22:08
David, I think the interview you are referring to was Jan. 16, 1984. At least, that's the date of the transcript, and that's the latest transcript I have from you. This was six months before Steve's transplant in late August, and nothing in the transcript refers to the impending transplant, although Goodman knew that was his likely fate at the time. Yes, the marrow for Steve's transplant came from his brother, David. Marrow donated by a close relative is more likely to be a good match for the recipient. It wasn't the transplant that killed Steve, however. It was complications that developed in his kidneys and liver. The transplant was a last-ditch hope, but it was a very slim hope. You are both right and kind to place Steve's 15-1/2-year cancer treatment in context. Anybody who undergoes experimental procedures is not just trying to help himself or herself. It's an aid to future patients whose survival may turn on what is learned by such research. It's the ultimate human generosity.
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permalink #181 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Tue 18 Sep 07 12:29
permalink #181 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Tue 18 Sep 07 12:29
I wasn't suggesting that the transplant killed him! Steve's situation was public knowledge as of the 1983 release of "Artistic Hair." That was also the first release n Godman's own label, Red Pajamas. That was a pretty novel move in those days, wasn't it? What was the source of the name Red Pajamas, and what drove Goodman to strike out on his own that way?
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permalink #182 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 13:54
permalink #182 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 13:54
I knew you weren't suggesting the transplant killed Steve, but with today's widespread awareness of bone-marrow and stem-cell transplantation, people sometimes assume that the transplant itself is the key to a cure, when the situation is usually a lot more complex. In Steve's case, the transplant was the last tool left, but the myriad other methods of treatment that he had undergone over the past 15-plus years had taken a heavy toll. I just wanted to explain to readers that wrinkle. You're right, David, that in 1983 starting a label from scratch was audacious, but Steve was recovering from his relapse (which presaged a shorter second remission), he had been dropped by Asylum, and the only "new" material he had was live recordings that had built up over the years. As Steve saw it, he had just one choice. "I noticed that there werent seven or eight record companies lined up outside my house with wheelbarrows full of money asking me to record," he told the Los Angeles Herald Examiner. "There were so many people who cared, and people seemed to be responding more to songs at live gigs than my recordings, so I sort of felt an obligation to respond. To the Los Angeles Times, he added, "I figured Id just do this myself and see what happens. I guess a lot of other people would want to wait and see if they could get another record contract, but I just dont have the time." The title of "Red Pajamas" had come to him back in 1975 when he named his self-producing role on his "Jessie's Jig" LP "Red Pajamas Productions." It was a nod to his daughter Jessie's favorite Pete Seeger song. On Seeger's "American Game & Activity Songs for Children" LP, released in 1962 on Folkways, Seeger sang the traditional "I Know a Little Girl," which kicked off with the repeated verse, "I know a little girl with red pajamas, red pajamas, red pajamas. I know a little girl with red pajamas, red pajamas on." In 1981, when issuing a self-produced studio single of his then-new "A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request," Steve called the label "Red Pajama Records." With the 1983 release of the all-live "Artistic Hair" LP, the label name became plural: "Red Pajamas Records."
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permalink #183 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 14:03
permalink #183 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 14:03
One further, more direct explanation: Steve considered the money he earned from music as a legacy for his children, so "Red Pajamas" seemed an apt nod to them. As he put it in 1983 during an interview with Bobby Bare, "All of this is for them anyhow."
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permalink #184 of 249: John Ross (johnross) Tue 18 Sep 07 18:06
permalink #184 of 249: John Ross (johnross) Tue 18 Sep 07 18:06
Was his illness a well-kept secret? Seems like it was common knowledge within the music community, at least to the extent that people would ask after his health often.
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permalink #185 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Tue 18 Sep 07 21:22
permalink #185 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Tue 18 Sep 07 21:22
I believe I have a copy of the original "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request" single somewhere. I gotta say, if he had released more plain ol' live recordings he might have done better in the record business. What do you think, Clay? I mean, some of his studio recordings were wonderful, but some where a little, uh, overdecorated.
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permalink #186 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 21:26
permalink #186 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 21:26
It depends, John, on the definition of well-kept. His leukemia was whispered about in music circles and was common knowledge among many hundreds of people, perhaps more than a thousand. Then again, there was an informal, unspoken pact for no one to break it to the media. As NYC friend Paula Ballan put it, "It was like a social contract that if you were really a friend of his, this is something that you keep among yourselves." The pact was broken in July 1982 when he relapsed and returned to Sloan-Kettering the day before a Harry Chapin memorial concert in Manhattan. Steve was billed for the show along with Pete Seeger, Tom Chapin and others. John Prine filled in for Steve at the last minute, but there was no way for Steve's disease to remain hidden any longer.
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permalink #187 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 21:33
permalink #187 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 21:33
"Over-decorated" is being kind, David. Yes, I agree with you that Goodman would have done better commercially if he had released live material much earlier than he did. But Steve was his own worst enemy about this. A live LP usually amounts to "nonsense," Steve told L.A.'s "FolkScene" show in 1976. "You (the listeners) are not there. Youre at home, looking at these speakers. Live albums are always going to be unsatisfactory because theres no visual dimension to them. Sometimes they capture a certain energy you just never get in the studio ... but I feel bad about goin to a record store and payin X number of dollars to hear 2,000 people clap for eight minutes, say, out of 30. If I could ever do a live album where all that extraneous stuff before and after was electronically removed so that you wouldnt have to put up with that at home, then OK, Id do it." A year later, Emily Friedman of the Chicago-based folk publication "Come for to Sing" pressed Steve for an answer to why he hadnt released a live recording. "Ive got to be honest with you. Everybody thinks its a problem but me, OK?" While admitting that "I just havent been able to make one (album) that did the same thing that I do live," Steve also described what he viewed as the impossibility of the task. "You cant see a record," he said. "I think the only reason that what I do live goes over well live is because Im not playin for blind people." Fortunately, in the last year and a half of his life, Steve witnessed the folly of such reasoning and was able to bask in the joy that people expressed about the live recordings he released in 1983-84.
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permalink #188 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 21:43
permalink #188 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Tue 18 Sep 07 21:43
Everyone: It's the eve of my last day on The WELL. I hope the conversation has provided some enjoyable insights. The questions and exchanges have been fun for me. If there's anything you want to ask before the conversation ends tomorrow, please do so soon! -- Clay
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permalink #189 of 249: John Ross (johnross) Tue 18 Sep 07 22:08
permalink #189 of 249: John Ross (johnross) Tue 18 Sep 07 22:08
Clay, I'm sure you're correct about the lack of publicity. I had an unusual perspective, because the first I knew of him was the story you tell in the book about somebody in New York seeing his "Member Haynes Family" pin and making the connection with Paula and the rest of the New York support group. This was before I had seen him perform, so the illness was part of the picture from the beginning.
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permalink #190 of 249: John Ross (johnross) Tue 18 Sep 07 22:10
permalink #190 of 249: John Ross (johnross) Tue 18 Sep 07 22:10
Oh, and one minor item you might want to correct in the next printing: You mention The Young Tradition, an English a capella group, as an influence. They were a trio, rather than a quartet.
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permalink #191 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Tue 18 Sep 07 23:18
permalink #191 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Tue 18 Sep 07 23:18
And another correction: the conversation des not have to end! Another topic takes center stage on Wednesday the 19th, but you are encouraged to stick arund!
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permalink #192 of 249: ray (riescher) Wed 19 Sep 07 05:08
permalink #192 of 249: ray (riescher) Wed 19 Sep 07 05:08
Ok.I'm coming in here way too late. As a long time rabid Gooman fan, I'm disapointed that I missed most of this. I have, however, run out and ordered Clay's book. David did a great job asking most of the questions that I had, and I've enjoyed the read. Clay, if you are still around there's one subject I'd like to touch on. Steve's guitar playing! I've owned the Austin City Limits DVD since it cam out, and I'm always astounded by Steve's playing. He's style of frentic strumming and picking is incredibly unique. One of a kind. Do you know who influenced him on guitar? Was that style developed purely because he was primarily a solo act and had to carry it off on his own?
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permalink #193 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 19 Sep 07 09:06
permalink #193 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 19 Sep 07 09:06
Thanks for the catch, John. Strangely, on page 193 I said Young Tradition had four members, and on page 458 I said it had three. In some cases, I can trace how errors sneaked into the manuscript, but not with this one. No worries, however. I will make the fix on the corrections page of my Internet site and in a second printing if/when that occurs. Ray, you've come up with a great word ("frenetic") to describe Goodman's guitar playing. The short answer to your question about his influences is "everybody." As the book recounts in detail, he was like a sponge, soaking up all manner of guitar skills and styles from his early teens. Exposure to mentors in high school, in college on the radio, on recordings and in clubs in Chicago, Greenwich Village and elsewhere made his learning curve steep and high. The most important of Steve's early mentors was high-school classmate and band leader Howard Berkman, a prodigy who spent endless hours playing and performing with Steve. Berkman taught Steve the haunting chord melody of Errol Garners "Misty," the blues progressions of "St. James Infirmary," the finger-picking styles in George Gershwins "Summertime," the Lonnie Johnson solo in "Goin to Chicago Blues" and the half-tone octave line of "Deep Purple." "Steve really was knocked out that you could get so much out of a guitar, because most of the guys who were playing were just strumming," Berkman told me. "Steve had such good ears that he very quickly got very far past me in a lot of respects. That was what was so disgusting about him. Hed say, 'Show me something,' and I did, and it would be gone. You would have struggled for years learning these things, but boom, he would have it. ... He was one of those kids who could just hear everything. Once he knew a chord, he knew where it belonged, even if it was in a different musical situation. He had total access to all the music in his head at all times. He amazed me. He was like a vacuum cleaner. He sucked up everything anyone could show him as fast as it could be shown." It's an astute insight that the intensity of Steve's guitar playing stemmed in part from his being a solo act. But keep in mind that his musical persona also embraced jamming with and giving attention to other musicians. At root, I think Goodman was just an energetic guy, giving it all he had.
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permalink #194 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 19 Sep 07 09:29
permalink #194 of 249: David Gans (tnf) Wed 19 Sep 07 09:29
I just loved it when Steve got all excited. As I said in post <1> above, he'd "practically levitate" when he got going. I am sorry we lost him at such a young age, but I am glad there is so much great Goodman music on the market - much of it live and solo. Again, you can find it all at http://www.stevegoodman.net ANd you can find Clay's wonderful biography, STEVE GOODMAN: FACING THE MUSIC, at http://www.clayeals.com Please don't hurry off, Clay. Tell us more about this great American.
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permalink #195 of 249: ray (riescher) Wed 19 Sep 07 09:49
permalink #195 of 249: ray (riescher) Wed 19 Sep 07 09:49
Thanks for the response, Clay. Much as I expected, Goodman's style was an amalgamation of many musical genres and influences. Other than 40's pop and swing, I wasn't quite sure where it all came from. Steve was singular in his approach. I cant think of another guitarist that plays like he did. He had that ability to keep a driving beat and play the medlody, in multiple positions on the neck, simultaneously. Too cool and when you pay close attention. His version of "It's a Sin To Tell A Lie" always slays me. A perfect example of waht I'm talking about. Then there's some of his studio work. Like his playing on the title cut from Jessie's jig. Bluegrassy, folky, but still unique and impressive. The guy really had it all. Songwriter, singer, performer, guitarist, humorist, and composer.
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permalink #196 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 19 Sep 07 10:30
permalink #196 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 19 Sep 07 10:30
Yes, Goodman had it all. He ruined me for any other performer, and his personal story was so captivating that it deserves to be part of our cultural literacy -- hence my motivation for doing the book. David, I don't know the precise time that the door will close on this conversation, but before it does, I want to thank everyone who helped me with the book over the past 10 years or so. On the acknowledgments page of my Internet site at clayeals.com, you can see the names of 2,200 people who fall in that category. I also am grateful to everyone at The WELL who made this conversation possible. Its reach is incalculable but no doubt formidable, not unlike tossing a pebble into a pond and watching the rings ripple and expand. At the risk of "giving away the store," I also want to share a couple more segments of the book that seem to get at Goodman's core. I'll do so in the next two posts.
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permalink #197 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 19 Sep 07 10:37
permalink #197 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 19 Sep 07 10:37
One of Goodman's finer songs (and collaborations -- this time with John Prine) was the 1977 epic, "The Twentieth Century Is Almost Over." The song captured the entire century even though 23 years remained after its writing. For instance, the third verse opens with lyrics that Al Gore would love. More important, however, "Twentieth Century" had the unmistakable air of mortality -- of the unmerciful passage of time and the obvious lesson to not waste it. The message became crystallized in what Goodman's producer at the time, Joel Dorn, considered the best line of the song, and of any Steve Goodman song: "Everybodys waiting for something to happen / Tell me if it happens to you." "I say that twice a month, Dorn told me. "How much more clever could you get? If you asked me to define what Steve did with words that set him apart, it would be that line. Its just so surreal and evocative. It had nothing to do with the 20th century. That line was just one of the great lines of 20th-century literature. Its just so singular." The key lay in the phrase "waiting for something to happen," Dorn said. "What hes talking about is the something that, first of all, doesnt happen, and, second of all, doesnt exist, and third of all, who gives a shit anyway, and, fourth of all, what are you talking about? Go out and have a sandwich. Do something. Throw a ball. Buy some Chicklets. Do anything. But stop fuckin waiting around for whatever it is youre waiting around for, man. Pretty soon, theyre going to drop the fuckin door, and youre not going to be able to get out."
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permalink #198 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 19 Sep 07 10:46
permalink #198 of 249: Clay Eals (clay-eals) Wed 19 Sep 07 10:46
The other segment I want to share from my Steve Goodman bio before time runs out is the foreword contributed by Arlo Guthrie. To me, it's the soul of the book. Like Steve, Arlo lived under a death cloud. He didn't know until he lived out his life whether he would inherit his famous dad's debilitating Huntington's chorea. This gave Arlo a visceral link to Goodman that transcended their obvious musical connection with "City of New Orleans." Arlo's foreword is all the more powerful when you understand that it is not a carefully crafted written piece but rather an extemporaneous soliloquy, taken from words spoken by him during his interview with me. I'm deeply grateful that it graces my book. It eloquently expresses the life lesson of Steve Goodman: "No one wants to believe consciously that theyre going to have a short life. The most brilliant people in the world are going to deal with that kind of news or suspicion with some regret. Its just your body chemistry, the most basic part of being a human being. "At some point or other, I think everyone really knows. Whether they want to know it or have a chance to know it consciously or not, I dont know. Im not an expert in this stuff. But I have a sneaking suspicion that you really do know how long its going to take you to fulfill the mission of your life, and I felt that in Steve Goodman. "I felt that he knew at some point, with a typical sadness that was not debilitating, that actually energized him in such a way that he could deal with things by writing songs that are deeper or in some cases even funnier than normal people would want to go. That kind of instinct opens up doors and allows you to be more real because youve got nothing to lose. "I sense it in people like Goodman, who, when you look into their eyes, are just taking it all in. They arent afraid of anything. Theyre fearless. That kind of living gives you abilities that most people are in fear of because they recognize that those abilities come hand in hand with destiny. So most people will not take the abilities, even if you offered it to them. "You dont get that stuff, generally, until youre very old and youve worked through all the issues of life. I see it in a lot of older people. Theyre fearless. However, that fearlessness at the old-age home is not the same as having it onstage when youre 20-something or 30-something years old. "I met Steve Goodman maybe four or five times in my whole life face-to-face. But since the first day, I felt like I knew him. I felt like we were friends on a deeper level than just a passing, chance meeting. I felt I had a real sort of kinship, and I know he felt the same way. "I felt he had a real respect for me, and I had a tremendous respect for him. It was not a mutual admiration society. It was deeper than that. Im sure he had that effect on other people because he just was that kind of guy. "He was just a real guy. I like real people. There was nothing phony about Steve Goodman."
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permalink #199 of 249: David Adam Edelstein (davadam) Wed 19 Sep 07 12:33
permalink #199 of 249: David Adam Edelstein (davadam) Wed 19 Sep 07 12:33
That's great. As Clay said, we're turning our official gaze to another conversation today, but there's no reason at all the conversation has to stop here. And what a terrific conversation it's been so far. Thanks very much to Clay and David, as well as everyone else who contributed insightful questions and great anecdotes.
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permalink #200 of 249: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 19 Sep 07 12:46
permalink #200 of 249: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 19 Sep 07 12:46
Wonderful stuff! Such passion. I feel like asking what your next project will be, but that almost feels disloyal to Steve Goodman. Thanks for being here.
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