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permalink #76 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Sun 1 Dec 13 20:03
permalink #76 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Sun 1 Dec 13 20:03
I'll answer Howard #75 first, because it's easier, then do a separate response for Robin's #74. The Chateau d'Herouville episode was a short, unusual, one-off event that took place in June of 1971, and is chronicled in some detail in my book - with photos. I'll summarize here. I was working at Alembic in the city when I got a call from Jon McIntire, the Dead's manager, asking me to find my passport and get ready to go to France in a day or two. The band had been booked to play a huge outdoor festival outside of Paris, and would be staying at the Chateau d'Herouville, made famous by Elton John as "Honky Chateau". They needed me as an interpreter. Jon and I went ahead of the band; the festival was rained out and cancelled while the band and crew were on the plane already. What followed was a four-day band 'holiday', during which they: 1) played a concert on the back lawn of the Chateau to the local villages, filmed by a Paris TV station; 2) jammed in the Chateau's third floor recording studio with some French musicians, with nothing coming of that collaboration and 3) went sightseeing at the Eiffel Tower on a beautiful sunny day. (A second car went to Notre Dame.) Wonderful memories. My
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permalink #77 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Sun 1 Dec 13 20:25
permalink #77 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Sun 1 Dec 13 20:25
Now, to respond to Robin's more complicated question in Post #74. First of all, yes, the appearance of the print edition WAS in response to popular demand; but not as much from the success of the electronic edition, as from a strong and persistent demand for a print edition INSTEAD of the electronic one. Not that people didn't buy and enjoy the e-book, and it's continuing to sell nicely and is available for all devices including computers. But there was a definite chorus of voices, saying, "I'll wait until it comes out in print." Even among the people who were willing to buy the e-book when that's all that was available, many, many of them thought they couldn't read it if they didn't have a Kindle or iPad, and I spent an inordinate amount of time doing tech support and education about that. Fast forward to today, three months after I published the print edition, and I am vindicated for listening to that chorus of voices, and doing the work required to convert the e-book into a print edition, one that would satisfy my basic quality criteria without costing me a lot of money that I simply didn't have. The print edition is selling at a rate of two-to-one vs. the e-book. As for what I did and how I did it, there's enough there for me to write another book! But with self-publishing options and technology being the fast-moving target that they are, it wouldn't be worth the time. One important thing you should know about my project vs. how much easier it would have been if I'd written a (text-only) novel: my book has 200 photos in it, and from Day One, I wanted the photos to ride along with the stories that they illustrate. Let's just say that greatly complicated matters. To anyone out there who is considering self-publishing, I say, "YES!" But I also say that you should take your time; do a serious amount of research; figure out what are the steps to get you from here to there, then cross off the tasks you KNOW you can do yourself. The other tasks? More research to figure out how much it'll cost you to pay someone else to do those tasks for you - then, that's your pre-publication budget, whether e-book or print book. For the e-book, I paid for a professional editor (critical!); help from a graphic artist on the cover I'd almost designed; and conversion of the file with all those photos into the two e-book formats. For the print book, I paid for professional "cleaning" of the worst of the high-res images; printing of 5 successive "proof" books (cheap) to verify the photos looked ok and of course, some marketing costs like a mailing list management service, etc. Don't let me deter you if you think it's too hard. But be careful, and don't get sucked in by the dozens of vendors out there who are ready to take your money so you can appear in print. Do the research, there's no shortcut to that.
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permalink #78 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Sun 1 Dec 13 22:18
permalink #78 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Sun 1 Dec 13 22:18
I'd also like to recommend a blogger-extraordinaire - Joel Friedlander - at www.thebookdesigner.com. He is an amazing fount of always-current information about self-publishing, not only from his own blog, but from compiling links to the blogs of other experts. I have been reading his blog and those he refers me to for well over a year, and I can't tell you how much I've learned from him.
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permalink #79 of 110: Gary Burnett (jera) Mon 2 Dec 13 06:58
permalink #79 of 110: Gary Burnett (jera) Mon 2 Dec 13 06:58
I haven't seen the print edition, but have to say that the extra time/effort/money spent on the photos really paid off in the e-book edition. They look fantastic on my iPad!
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permalink #80 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Mon 2 Dec 13 08:16
permalink #80 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Mon 2 Dec 13 08:16
Thanks, Gary. I too was happy with the photos on the iPad, Kindle Fire and other e-readers, tablets or computer monitors, in a way surprising considering the amount of compression required to make those 200 photos fit into the stringent specs required to keep e-book files down to a manageable size. In the interest of full disclosure: in order to self-publish a book that was affordable to me to produce, and for readers to buy, I had to convert the color photos to black and white for the 339-page print edition. Same stories; same photos, but black and white except for front and back covers. Readers of the print edition that want to see the color photos have a few options. Many people have opted to buy both editions, with the e-book selling for $9.59 on the Amazon Kindle store, (free Kindle app for iPad, Mac, PC, etc. downloadable). For a quick look at some of the color photos without buying anything, here are a couple of links. My online print sales gallery: http://www.rosiemcgee.smugmug.com; and photo gallery on Rolling Stone online, posted when my e-book first came out: http://rol.st/1c6wleo. And finally, who knows? Maybe down the road, I will publish (or have published) a full-color, hardbound edition of "Dancing with the Dead--A Photographic Memoir". It would be expensive and time-consuming to produce and to buy, and it's not in my plans right now. But as my friends know, I never say never.
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permalink #81 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Mon 2 Dec 13 09:38
permalink #81 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Mon 2 Dec 13 09:38
So much great info! Thank you!
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permalink #82 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Mon 2 Dec 13 09:39
permalink #82 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Mon 2 Dec 13 09:39
I'd like to hear about your adventures as the band's translator. Any interesting episodes come to mind?
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permalink #83 of 110: Gary Burnett (jera) Mon 2 Dec 13 10:11
permalink #83 of 110: Gary Burnett (jera) Mon 2 Dec 13 10:11
Oh yeah! Great question!
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permalink #84 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Mon 2 Dec 13 12:23
permalink #84 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Mon 2 Dec 13 12:23
Would it be "cheating" if I pull in some direct excerpts from my book? I do have a couple of favorite stories that are detailed in my book.
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permalink #85 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Mon 2 Dec 13 13:00
permalink #85 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Mon 2 Dec 13 13:00
Well, you know, I'm going to answer my own question and say, no, it's not cheating. Why paraphrase myself to answer a question? So, here's one of the stories of translating for the Dead in France. This was about trying to get home from the Herouville episode in 1971: "The next day, after four fairly sleepless nights, we were back at the airport. It was an hour to flight time and our equipment was on the plane, but we were notour tickets were held hostage waiting for a missing freight document. It was fifteen minutes to departure and still no document. Six supervisors, representing two airlines, the airport and the French government, surrounded me. They were all arguing at oncethe airlines over who would nab these pre-paid customers, the government agents trying to ensure that wed have time to pass through the drug checkpoint, and airport security trying to calm everyone downwhile waiting 20 yards away, the guys were about to lose it completely. They were exhausted and just wanted to go home! Exasperated from at least an hour of harassment, I zeroed in on the stubborn twit who was holding the tickets and shouted over the din in French, Monsieur, look at those guys over there, (as I pointed to the band and crew). I cant imagine what theyll do if they dont get on some airplane immediately. The freight is already on the plane and you have their prepaid tickets in your hand. Do you want to be personally responsible for an international incident, right here and right now? The man looked over, and the guys, ready to explode anyway, picked up on my cue. One or two gave the well-known American one-digit salutation while roaring like lions, and the rest merely projected visions of Hell to Pay. The poor man broke down completely and weakly handed me the tickets. A sprint through the airport, a quick stop at a security check, and we collapsed in our seats." From Chapter Eight, "Dancing with the Dead--A Photographic Memoir" (c) Rosie McGee
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permalink #86 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Mon 2 Dec 13 16:14
permalink #86 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Mon 2 Dec 13 16:14
QUoting the book is just fine, of course!!
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permalink #87 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Mon 2 Dec 13 16:15
permalink #87 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Mon 2 Dec 13 16:15
GREAT story!!
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permalink #88 of 110: John Rottet (unkljohn) Tue 3 Dec 13 08:52
permalink #88 of 110: John Rottet (unkljohn) Tue 3 Dec 13 08:52
That is a great story. And hey, this is *your* topic, so there can't be any worries about cheating....quote away!
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permalink #89 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Wed 4 Dec 13 08:34
permalink #89 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Wed 4 Dec 13 08:34
Rosie, please post a few more excerpts from the book. I love the 710 bust story, for example!
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permalink #90 of 110: Tim Lynch (masonskids) Wed 4 Dec 13 11:09
permalink #90 of 110: Tim Lynch (masonskids) Wed 4 Dec 13 11:09
I haven't had the chance to read the book yet, but do you touch upon the time when Pig and Bobby was supposedly fired from the band? Did that actually happen or was it just a rumor?
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permalink #91 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Wed 4 Dec 13 12:35
permalink #91 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Wed 4 Dec 13 12:35
David - I will post excerpts as they apply to questions asked, but I think the 710 bust story is pretty long, and I think I'd prefer that people encounter it in context when they're reading my book. Tim - I can't really speak to that, as I don't have personal knowledge of it or I simply don't remember. Although I attended many, many rehearsals and recording sessions, I didn't attend band meetings, even when other women in the family might have. And during the years that I lived with Phil, I don't recall having all that many discussions with him about band politics or business matters. Dennis McNally does tell that story in his book, citing a recording of the band meeting where that happened as his source.
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permalink #92 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Wed 4 Dec 13 12:46
permalink #92 of 110: David Gans (tnf) Wed 4 Dec 13 12:46
> the 710 bust story is pretty long, and I think I'd prefer that people en- > counter it in context when they're reading my book. Fair enough!
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permalink #93 of 110: Brady Lea (brady) Thu 5 Dec 13 10:30
permalink #93 of 110: Brady Lea (brady) Thu 5 Dec 13 10:30
Hey, Inkwell readers/posters-- Just a quick word to let you know we have passed the two-week mark in this interview/discussion. Huge thank yous to <jera>/Gary for facilitating the discussion, and of course to Rosie for giving us her time and attention. Additional thanks to <tnf>/David for helping us put this whole thing together. So, the "official" interview is over, but Rosie has graciously agreed to stick around, and she will continue the discussion through Sunday, after which some busy-time will take her away from us for a while. If you have a couple more questions burning a hole in your... um. Don't make me mix metaphors. Anyway, ask away for a couple more days! And please feel free to continue the discussion amongst yourselves. And to keep up with Rosie, you can LIKE her FB page: https://www.facebook.com/rosiemcgeephotographer and you can follow her on twitter: @rosiemcgee12 Thanks so much, all of you, and I look forward to the next couple days of discussion!
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permalink #94 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Thu 5 Dec 13 11:32
permalink #94 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Thu 5 Dec 13 11:32
And I add my thanks, first to David for putting this together, and then to Gary and Brady for making it so easy for me to participate and have some fun. As Brady said, I'm still going to be available until Sunday, so please feel free to ask me more questions. And after Sunday, I'll be occasionally lurking to see what turns the discussion might take. Thanks so much for your interest, and I hope to see you or hear from you via some other venue. My website is www.rosiemcgee.com. Rosie
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permalink #95 of 110: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 5 Dec 13 12:32
permalink #95 of 110: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 5 Dec 13 12:32
Nice conversation! I'm having a bit of trouble connecting to your website. Anybody else seeing that?
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permalink #96 of 110: Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 5 Dec 13 13:28
permalink #96 of 110: Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 5 Dec 13 13:28
Thanks so much for the great conversation, Rosie!
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permalink #97 of 110: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Thu 5 Dec 13 14:00
permalink #97 of 110: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Thu 5 Dec 13 14:00
Thanks, Rosie. I can't recommend 'Dancing with the Dead' highly enough. It is entertaining and enlightening, with lots of great photos.
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permalink #98 of 110: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 5 Dec 13 14:00
permalink #98 of 110: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 5 Dec 13 14:00
And now I'm on your site -- your website looks terrific, too, Rosie!
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permalink #99 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Thu 5 Dec 13 17:15
permalink #99 of 110: Rosie McGee (rosiemcg) Thu 5 Dec 13 17:15
Thanks, everybody, and remember, I'm still here, ready to answer more questions until Sunday night. If you take your time scrolling down the home page of my website, you'll see links to interviews and other stuff. BUT ALSO, on the left of the site is some stuff that's kind of "legacy" - hasn't been updated in a long time, but no reason to remove it. Most notable that you might enjoy are the photo 'slide shows' that I have there, including dozens of photos from the 7 years I lived in Grand Canyon National Park South Rim; plus some travel photos and ... well, just check it out. And if you're curious about where you might have seen some of the Grateful Dead photos that are in my book, check out my Credits. Hope to hear from more of you before Sunday! Rosie
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permalink #100 of 110: Dave Waite (dwaite) Fri 6 Dec 13 08:46
permalink #100 of 110: Dave Waite (dwaite) Fri 6 Dec 13 08:46
Are you doing anything now with any of the band members? If not, can you share your departure? If so, can you share what you are doing now? Thanks
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