If George pulled a gun from under his coat and I was the one watching, I _might_ be able to notice whether it was a revolver or an automatic, but that would be about it. Anyway I'd be too busy hitting the dirt!
A valid point, Martha! It's like drawing a picture of a face in shadow -- you draw what you can actually _see,_ not what you know is there. In a fast, action scene from the point-of-view of a character urgently involved, verisimilitude would be blown by giving details that the character wouldn't have had the liesure to note. I find that action scenes are often best described as they probably would really be perceived -- noise, scrambling, looking the wrong way, and only later learning what actually happened. Still, as the writer, I do want to convey as much as possible! Therefore it wouldn't be out of place to notice ejected shells spinning away, for example, or gunfire too rapid to be coming from a revolver. And at night revolvers flare differently than automatics. (I had a night scene like this in a recent book, so it's fresh in my mind!) And even in a crashing crisis, I'd still try to let our character catch some fleeting clues about what people are drinking. We do need to know, if at all possible, whether Character X is the sort that drinks Pink Gins or the sort that drinks boilermakers.
I pass the time on my 2-3 hour daily commute by listening to Books on Tape. Today's selection is _Virtual Light_ by William Gibson. I was quite taken by the description of a fractal knife belonging to one of the characters, in which the edge of the knife blade, being a fractal, was longer than the length of the blade itself. This is what I think of as "future technology" (although for all I know about knives there may actually be such a thing), and it got me thinking about the technology that you create in your books. Now, I know that you have described yourself as a fantasy writer as opposed to a science fiction writer, but you do indeed create new technology, but yours tends to be of the battered hubcap and string variety, not what I think of as future technology at all. But it fascinates and *functions* regardless of what we call it. I'm thinking of the device in the current Powers book I'm reading that is comprised of an old rotary dial telephone, the eye of a dead Fisher king, a manual pencil sharpener, a piece of chalk, and speakers and tuners of some sort. Its purpose is to reach the dead - you use the person's name and birthdate and other info to calculate the number to call, and, it works, too, although it doesn't always call the exact person you're trying to reach, and in the book, they get a wrong number - the wrong ghost - and have a heck of a time getting her off the line. At any rate, reading it, it sounds so plausible I'm about ready to jump off the couch and hunt down the parts. Would you tell us about what research led you to that particular technological creation? And also, please say whatever you would about other technological creations you've dreamed up...
Actually, I think the edge of any serrated knife is longer than the knife! This stuff is fascinating -- I remember comprehending, while reading Gleick's _Chaos,_ that if you measure the coastline of, say, California with too small a length-unit -- like walking through every inlet with a 12-inch ruler -- you just get a uselessly big number, like indicating that California's coastline is way longer than the equator. Anyway, the Edison telephone -- well, as they're discussing over in the Edison topic, it _was_ one of Edison's last plans to build something like that. And luckily I had a couple of friends, "Natural Philosophers" in the Marine Corps, who undertook to build the thing. (They had to design it from scratch; Edison left no plans that I was able to learn about.) These guys were uniquely suited to deal with this kind of thing -- they had already somehow hooked a Ouija board up to a gigantic Tesla coil (it was as big as a stood-on-end VW), and claimed to have talked to lots of ghosts with it. (When I asked them what ghosts talked _about,_ they told me that ghosts always want to give you winning lottery numbers; and when I said I hoped they wrote the numbers down, I was told, "They're just lyin'! Ghosts don't know what numbers are gonna win!") Anyway, it involved, I recall, an electron brush-discharge inside a Langmuir-gauge -- and a certain type of rectifying lens -- I don't remember, but it's all in _Expiration Date._ (The chalk speaker was a real invention of Edison's, cooked up to get around somebody's patent on something more practical.) My friends never got anybody on the phone, I believe, but the whole thing did sound beautifully plausible! Speaking of Edison, that book was largely sparked by my reading (in one of Cecil Adams's priceless _Straight Dope_ books) that Edison's last breath is preserved in a test tube at the Ford Museum in Dearborn (I think?) Michigan -- we've actually seen the thing. And so I cooked up the procedure (nitrous oxide inhalers &c.) for inhaling "live" ghosts. I do like that kind of garage-sorcerous-tech. In _Last Call,_ I had our characters outfit a '72 Suburban as a magical "stealth" vehicle, with playing cards glued to the hub-caps and plastic deer-repelling whistles glued in conflicting patterns all over the roof. It sounded good to _me._ I think this kind of thing makes it all seem more plausible. After all, if there were these subterranean magical factions, they _would_ have come up with these odd makeshifts! And of course you would have to construct such things yourself, in your garage -- you might be able to get components at a Home Depot, but they wouldn't have a ready-made Witch-Repeller spray, or Acme Ghost Walkie-Talkie.
The electron discharge wasn't in the Langmuir gauge. It was in some kind of special "light bulb" type of thing. Some kind of vibrating filament was in the Langmuir gauge. (Just so I don't get scornful messages from ghost-tech experts!)
However, if there are any ghost-tech experts out there, we would welcome other messages! Powers, what is your position on having characters die? Are you reluctant to have that happen? Do you create your stories to keep it from happening? I haven't really done any statistical analysis on the subject, but to my recollection it doesn't happen very often in your books.
Good question! I guess my main characters _don't_ die, in the stories, now that you mention it. I don't think it's anything deliberate -- I just always picture them walking away at the end. (Getting into a boat and sailing away, actually, I noticed once.) The main couple in _Stress of Her Regard_ die at the end, but it's in a years-later Epilogue when they're real old, so it doesn't really count. I have peripheral characters die -- at the end of _Earthquake Weather_ I had a major supporting character die -- and I gotta admit, I was reluctant to do it! And the same thing happened on a much lesser scale in this new spy book. Hell, I had a _dog_ die in _Expiration Date,_ and I felt bad about it, tried to find a way around it in the math. Maybe it seems too _abrupt,_ intrusive, almost _mors ex machina_ (or whatever it would be), like a violation of some conservation law. Too easy? Too hard? I'm not sure, actually. I do tend to chop my protagonists up, during a story. They often wind up missing ears & eyes & fingers. Maybe this is a _placatory gesture_ toward mortality. Token offerings. Maybe I don't picture the action of the book as the _end_ of my protagonist's story; like, the action of the book is in effect some kind of stressful tempering or correcting or equipping, and of course once that's done it's only symmetrical that the protagonist be turned loose at the end to go _do_ whatever sort of thing it might be that he's been thus enabled to do. That sounds good! I have no idea right now whether it's true, or if that's just the old English-major reflexes twitching.
Just wanted to mention that the occult symbolism and secret supernatural undergrounds in your novels are well-realized and interesting enough that I've tried to rip them off in my own writing at least once. They have a feel of functioning magical strangeness to them that seems intuitively workable, as though they're tapping into a kind of logic below the rational mind. One good example of this is the "Stealth Suburban" in _Last Call_ - the cloaking measures included deer whistles that made the air currents around the car move funny, which had the effect of making the car appear other than it was to psychic senses. Now, I've never heard, anywhere, that any kind of psychic or mystic operates by magically tracking air currents, but reading it, it seems perfectly natural. One just accepts that the car's "identity" is affected, and it works. This kind of loose definition of identity, possession, and so on appears throughout most of your work, is fairly consistent, and always works. Is it a general sense of occult definitions you've gleaned from your research, do you know what will seem intuitively "right" from long practice, or are you just insane and it happens to work for you? :-)
Well thanks, Noah! -- I ripped this sort of thing off from Leiber & Lovecraft ... and even from my friend Blaylock. He's always got a character building mechanical dragons or something in the garage. Some of these things do have a kind of sub-rational plausibility, I like to think. It's like those net dream-catchers you see hanging on rear-view mirrors -- my first thought is, Yeah, that'd work all right. I do get a lot of it from research -- voodoo, Greek mystery-religion rituals, European witchcraft -- but I generally find I've got to systematize them a bit more than they actually are; and of course if they're going to be working in the 1990s I've got to adapt them to things like cars and TVs and duct tape (though voodoo and santeria have already pretty much done that, I find). I always picture them working along a sort of Newtonian mechanics pattern -- action & reaction, entropy, things like that; though in _Stress of Her Regard_ I had some fun giving Quantum effects to a penny tossed around by a fortune-teller. -- I'll continue this in an hour or so -- I've got to go get some new tires on the '72 Suburban, as a matter of fact! (It does still have deer-whistles on the roof, by the way, but they're not actually there to deflect psychic radar.) I'm told the treads are "separating," and that this is something I should worry about. Detroit should issue a standardized weekly newsletter -- "What to worry about in regards to your vehicle! Have you even thought about the ... _voltage regulator?!_" I always imagine that the engine is going to simply fall out on the freeway some night, in a bad area of L.A., and bits of us will be found decorating lampposts, on obscure secret holy-days, for years to come.
In fact, the same friend who designed the Edison ghost-telephone for me also made a ghost-inhaler -- all ready to go, as soon as you've got a vial that contains a ghost! A lot of the fun of this kind of story, and an area in which I think it differs from magical realism (which I don't claim to write), is just this kind of applied technology. The way I describe it, it's all screwy old junk made out of things out of boxes at thrift stores, but my characters take it seriously -- and I try to make it seem "logical", given the special rules of the story. I do have to watch out, though, that I don't trivialize the _magic,_ with all this chicken-wire & car-batteries stuff! I still want the actual magic to be affecting and awesome and sometimes scary. And not just scary in the sense that you might get killed, but scary in the sense that you might lose your soul. In _Earthquake Weather_ I had Dionysus descend on the poor old Suburban, and I wanted it to be tangible and palpable enough so that the characters would worry about the tires and the suspension -- but I wanted them to worry about those things _afterward,_ after first being shocked and awed and diminished by the abrupt presence of the god.
Well, you have me needing to read one of your books... do you have a suggestion for the best one for someone who doesn't know your style to start with, or is any as good a place to get hooked as any other?
Thanks for asking that, Gail! Tim has me needing to read ALL of his books. It's like going to a Grateful Dead show for the first time and needing to know what tapes to listen to first. Um, no offense, Tim.
Actually that's a flattering parallel, Reva! I think I'd recommend _Last Call._ If not that, _The Anubis Gates._
Glad _The Anubis Gates_ got your nod as a good place to start. I picked it up this very evening, inspired to get started on your work by this topic. Now I may even become a semi-informed reader of the topic.
All right Shaun! I owe you a drink.
A very apropos comment from a reader on the Web: From: Karen Meisner [mailto:velvet@alyx.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 4:38 PM > To: inkwell-hosts@well.com > Subject: please post this in the Tim Powers discussion > > > My opinion as a reader and fan: I recommend you start with _The Anubis > Gates_ and then just read everything else; that worked for me. (Except > I read _Earthquake Weather_ without realising it was the third in a > loose trilogy -- yikes. Powers plots are complex enough without coming > into them in the middle!) > > But whatever you do, definitely read _Last Call_.
I always trust what Karen Meisner says. Incidentally, the order of that trilogy is _Last Call, Expiration Date,_ and finally _Earthquake Weather._
Happy to see that I inadvertently read them in the correct order. Although now I have to wait and see who's gonna die in _Earthquake Weather_. I'm gonna guess it's Dr. Armentrout _ i'm rooting for that sucker to encounter some weird psychic shotgun blast. So, Powers, what about sex? In this book it's clear that Cochran has the hots for Plumtree (but only when she's Janis, and not when she's Cody) are they gonna get it together here at all? Has any of your characters really ever gone into a clinch, or, gopod forbid, actually had an orgasm on the pages of a Powers book?
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And I was gonna say, what a great question, pdil, can't wait to see the answer to that one!
I don't want to give away any of the stuff in _Earthquake Weather_ that you haven't read yet, Linda -- but several of the characters do have sex in the course of the book. And I remember the two main characters in _Stress of Her Regard_ making love on the beach near (not _very_ near) Shelley's house in Italy. But I let the orgasms remain implicit. It always seems to me that when a writer goes into an explicit sex-scene, with heaving bits and quivering whatnots, that the prose has ... undergone a gear-shift without benefit of clutch; unless the book has largely been about sex all along, of course. And detailed sex scenes written by _older guys_ always seem creepy -- your attention is distracted from the Wizard to the guy feverishly working the levers behind the curtain, and you want to say, "Oh, you _wish._" (You filthy old pig you.) I haven't mentored anybody, except to the diluted extent teaching Clarion might constitute that. And my total failure to be up-to-date with current fiction keeps me from noticing anybody who might be influenced by my stuff! I do remember seeing that movie _Stargate_ (right? Kurt Russell, pyramids?) and wondering if the writers of it had read _The Anubis Gates_ ... and I remember reading about an in-production movie that sounded very like _Dinner At Deviant's Palace,_ but it appears to have evaporated ... altogether I really am not aware of anybody who seems to have been influenced by my stuff. It would be flattering to see! I imagine Hemingway got a kick out of seeing all the subsequent writers dutifully going through their Hemingway Periods. The new King got a good review in the L.A. Times. I do want to read it. And I'd be thrilled to see evidence that he's read my stuff! -- though I've got to admit that the hopscotch thing was probably derived from where I noticed it myself -- where else? -- in Pynchon's _Crying of Lot 49._ (I admire your recommended Powers-reading schedule, Pdil! When I've completely forgotten the plots of 'em, I may do it myself one day.)
I am almost certain I read that book - _Crying of Lot 49_ that is, - but I am unable to summon up a single thing about it. Can you kind of summarize it without giving it away?
The secret history of Western culture centers on the delivery of mail, Linda. Plus, the harder you look at things, the more they look like the things you're looking for. Hope that helps.
And there's a very old alternate mail system for fugitive & disenfranchised people -- the Trystero system, lethally secret -- and Pynchon does a beautiful job of tracing its secret history, all the way back to the Renaissance, showing how it spiralled in hiding around all the overt, known mail systems. And there's a Jacobean play that deals with it obliquely, with a supressed couplet which may be a dangerously indiscreet pun ... and when our heroine quotes the suppressed couplet to an underground play-director, he stares at her and then says, "And how did you get into the restricted vaults of the Vatican?" Oh, great stuff! But Pynchon, like magical realists, feels no obligation to _tie things up_ at all -- as Mike notes, the harder you look at things, the more deceptive they get ... until for our heroine it all fragments away into terminal uncertainty. As a reader -- and ergo as a writer -- I want there to be some assurance that it was _really there._ Pynchon also does this in _V_ -- which is another wonderfully intriguing book -- I can pinpoint the exact point in that book where the lead-up to the explanation shifts to the lead-away from the explanation -- but the explanation itself is omitted!
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