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Bruce Sterling & Jon Lebkowsky: State of the World 2016
permalink #151 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 15 Jan 16 06:55
permalink #151 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 15 Jan 16 06:55
As for corporate dominance, it's quite old-fashioned. What actually dominates now is stockholder value and a few ultra-rich individuals; finance defeated corporate power many years ago. We have oligarch dominance, not corporate dominance. Otherwise, Donald Trump would be insulting and trolling corporations instead of individuals. The Koch Brothers wouldn't be hated, feared and respected, we'd hate their front corporations instead. People don't do that now. Mistaking the Koch Bros for one of their corporate fronts would be naive and corny. Our problems an downsides will become old-fashioned too. Not that things will become more positive. Just, things get old-fashioned, across the board.
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permalink #152 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 15 Jan 16 07:06
permalink #152 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 15 Jan 16 07:06
*An interesting suggestion from four years ago that seemingly flat and equal peer-to-peer networks, such as Internet and Bitcoin, actually breed oligarch elitism. http://blog.dshr.org/2014/10/economies-of-scale-in-peer-to-peer.html *It was often argued in previous centuries that democracy without republican institutions led to tyranny.
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permalink #153 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 16 Jan 16 07:24
permalink #153 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 16 Jan 16 07:24
In the end, it's a math problem. http://blogs.ams.org/phdplus/2012/11/01/the-mathematics-of-democracy/#sthash.l 44PfFv1.dpbs I moderated a conference discussion a couple of days ago. The question was whether technology could turbocharge democracy. The obvious questions all emerged: is a Republic such as ours a "democracy"? what's the best way to make participatory decisions? how easy is it to game the system? etc. Does gerrymandering subvert democracy? Does propaganda shape the vote so that democracy is only apparent? Is a low-participation vote democratic, or is it just a ritual of affirmation? Everyone seems to agree that we're in a real mess, but it's unclear what combination of energy and intelligence (and power) would clean it up; is it cleanable? Was it cleaner/better before? Has technology actually undermined democratic principles, e.g. by facilitating the spread of propaganda and disinformation? I think that last post <bruces> linked is insightful, clearly the problems of democracy, like the problems of p2p networks, are associated with scale and diversity. It's hard to sustain a state the size of the USA, let alone sustain it as a democracy. But we don't exactly do that: we're not a monolithic entity governed centrally, but a collection of states with state governments, and those state "unite," ideally co-operate, as a federated set, seeking the advantages of scale and co-operation. When I worked in state government, we talked a lot about our Federal partners - the states are in partnership with the federal government, and through that partnership, they're co-operating with each other. Question is, where do the authority and rights of the state end, vs the authority and rights of the federation? We hear about states' rights, but we probably don't have enough conversation or intelligence about that division of responsibility and accountability. And the rest of the world is still at various levels of Figuring It Out. When I step back, I think, globally, the question we should all ask ourselves is about where we should be competing, and where we should be co-operating...
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permalink #154 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 16 Jan 16 07:26
permalink #154 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 16 Jan 16 07:26
(A political scientist, reading that, would probably shake his head and say, "that's simplistic, it's a LOT more complicated"...)
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permalink #155 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 16 Jan 16 09:50
permalink #155 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 16 Jan 16 09:50
*I'm currently in Munich Germany at their local Maker Faire, which is a rather standard Maker culture event except that the city's government has rather a prominent presence there. *I opined that the "flat world" Internet theory where everybody was on a level electronic playing field is over for the time being. We're into an Internet Counterrevolution period of balkanization, wall-building, silos and centers of regional ambition. *In the meantime, shabby, cheesy Little Britain has kindly offered to expel immigrants who make less than L35K a year. Are they a nation or an AirBnB? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-urged-to-rethink-new -35000-earnings-threshold-for-non-eu-migrants-as-teachers-face-a6814841.html
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permalink #156 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 16 Jan 16 09:53
permalink #156 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 16 Jan 16 09:53
*Glum, tormented, spiteful Canada now officially hip for 2016! Welcome back, Canada, all is forgiven! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/15/style/canada-justin-trudeau-cool .html
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permalink #157 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 17 Jan 16 08:41
permalink #157 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 17 Jan 16 08:41
*Off to play some techno music in a Munich nightclub and dedicating my set to the memory of Countess Franziska du Reventlow.
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permalink #158 of 179: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Mon 18 Jan 16 02:47
permalink #158 of 179: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Mon 18 Jan 16 02:47
Nice...Bruce, Europe has always had a long history of 'salons'...are there any still going on, do people spark ideas face to face anymore? Or has digital killed that off? There is something about food, drink, and the chemistry of dialog all in the same physical space that doesn't seem able to be replicated in cyberspace. Maybe VR will change that, but I doubt it.
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permalink #159 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 18 Jan 16 04:11
permalink #159 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Mon 18 Jan 16 04:11
http://brucesterling.tumblr.com/post/137539537838/dedicating-my-munich-techno- dj-set-to-the-memory *There's the playlist for you fans of hole-in-the-wall DJ sets in ex-industrial "creative quarter" areas of big European cities.
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permalink #160 of 179: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Mon 18 Jan 16 04:37
permalink #160 of 179: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Mon 18 Jan 16 04:37
Thx, good Gopod, I'm feeling old, only know of two of those groups :( So much to do, so much to do....(Dave Matthews) Bruce, how's your career Bollywood quest going? Anyone new, observatons of its continued cultural impact. New music you are excited about. Have you heard King Krule, my particular new fav: https://www.youtube.com/user/kingkrulevideo
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permalink #161 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 18 Jan 16 07:16
permalink #161 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 18 Jan 16 07:16
Thanks for the playlist! I programmed it in Spotify, listening now. Streaming music makes me happy as a clam. Today's the last day of our discussion... we should load the soundtrack on the front end next year. Tonight I'm giving a talk at EFF-Austin, "Agoratopia," the latest in my series of "Future of the Internet" talks. I wanted to give a more focused talk - the one I'd been giving is about half history and half speculation; it's always tempting to wax nostalgic about the history, which leaves less time for the "future of" speculation. One version of the talk, for an IEEE consultants' group, never got past the history, we had a great time remembering our experiences with Gopher, Archie & Veronica, Usenet newsgroups, etc. "Agoratopia" is about the Internet as a marketplace. After struggling to weld that onto the existing framework of the talk, I woke this morning with the outline for a pretty-much-from-scratch new version that talks about what we have, and what we (should) want, if we assume that we're okay with "the agora" - where the market is built into the public gathering-place in some ideal, non-obnoxious way... Off to make the slides...
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permalink #162 of 179: disclaimers and disentanglements at gailwilliams.com (gail) Mon 18 Jan 16 11:44
permalink #162 of 179: disclaimers and disentanglements at gailwilliams.com (gail) Mon 18 Jan 16 11:44
Looking forward to seeing the slides, Jon. Mostly concerned about restrictions and contortions of the agora of ideas, but the agora of products seems more and more tied in. And of course the nautual planet is the platform for all the platforms, and that future is not absolute, but complex and nuanced. You said something earlier about "too late" for our atmosphere, but if you look at the calculated projections for late response to the challenge (now, pretty much) versus later or none, there are powerful reasons not to be fatalistic about climate change mitigation. I'm still thinking about the first few days of the topic here. That listicle you shrugged at probably lists the most influential thing you can do first. That's to not eat meat, of course. You don't have to sumpathize with animal abuse or adopt a buddhist tradition, just scientifically choose to skip the meat, and don't be derisive when somebody asks for the salad without bacon. Each time you select vegetable proteins instead of meat you buy our planet some time. Well, the biosphere anyway. Cause geology doesn't care about biodiveristy or the agora of the future and how it will be powered. Imperfect gestures are better than none. (I don't talk about this very much partly because I do eat dairy, and I know that is part of the problem, but even a grilled cheese sandwich instead of a cheeseburger is a meaningful vote for a liveable planet.) I hang out a lot with craft beer community people, and young American brewers with their beards and shorts and can-do spirit tend to be extremem meat fetishists, so I think about this a lot and say very little. Such a coward. Thanks for the insights into Europe and the world, Bruce. I guess it's kind of obvious to say that your posts pop because of your facility with the language, but damn they can be pleasant as well as informative and disturbing. So here's a pebble into the stream. Best thing I learned this year was about antibiotic-resistant staph infections foiled by early Anglo-Saxon medicine derieved from an old manuscript called Bald's Leechbook. Mostly motivated by the fun of experimentation. I think one reason I love the story is that I love how citizen science is back, after being a curioisty of earlier centuries. There are some articles around that tell this story, about a microbiologist who did historical battle reenactments for fun -- not US Civil War, but Viking/Anglo-Saxon battles -- and who became friends with an historian who had an amateur interest in epidemiology... and how they proceeded to test old remedies, and detemined that they could beat MRSA with a formula including garlic and ox bile. But some of those articles draw dumb conclusions. The story is even better in more depth. The Radiolab version is thorough, charming, amusing and asks all the right questions. http://www.radiolab.org/story/best-medicine/ A few months old, but if you missed it, grab it.
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permalink #163 of 179: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Mon 18 Jan 16 14:32
permalink #163 of 179: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Mon 18 Jan 16 14:32
This is our last 'official' day, I would like to thank Bruce and Jon for their extraordinary generosity of time and knowledge, for sharing so much 'spot on' content, wishing you both the most joyous and productive year ahead in all your endeavors. To everyone participating, on WELL and off WELL, thank you for your inputs, questions, lurkings, etc. This has been one of the best SOTW's, Not that they aren't all great, but we all mostly we able to stay out of Bruce and Jon's way and let them post as they wished and answer your questions as they felt so inclined. To all who helped in the production of this year's conversation: Brady, Gail, et.al. Thanks for being present behind the stage and making it all go so smoothly. This conversation will always be available in the Archives, to on WELL and OFF WELL folks alike.... If you have further questions or comments, please feel free to ask or make them...Bruce and Jon will occassionally check in to the topic during the next two weeks, then we will archive it. Next up, Jon Lebkowsky will begin a two week conversation with Sarah Hepola: http://sarahhepola.com/ Feel free to hang around for that one as well, should it interest you. All the best to you and yours, enjoy Ted
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permalink #164 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 18 Jan 16 15:09
permalink #164 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Mon 18 Jan 16 15:09
Thanks, Ted! And thanks to everybody who dropped by, and especially to all who contributed comments and questions...
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permalink #165 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:39
permalink #165 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:39
Ted Newcomb (tcn) Mon 18 Jan 2016 (02:47 AM) "Nice...Bruce, Europe has always had a long history of 'salons'...are there any still going on, do people spark ideas face to face anymore? Or has digital killed that off? "There is something about food, drink, and the chemistry of dialog all in the same physical space that doesn't seem able to be replicated in cyberspace. Maybe VR will change that, but I doubt it." *I appreciate Ted's insight and, yes, I think there's something to the face-to-face issue. I've noticed that, while social media destroyed the economic underpinnings of paper media, events somehow became the new magazines. *In 2015 I went to events about as often as I used to write a magazine article, back during the last 20th century. I also wrote a few magazine articles during 2015, but about as often as I used to go to public events in, say, 1987.
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permalink #166 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:39
permalink #166 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:39
*Why is it happening -- events, not magazines? Because the physical presence of people can still be monetized. People need each other. I'm pretty sure that the lasting success of SXSW Interactive has plenty to do with the fact that women abound there -- at least, for a tech event. SXSW is a geek romance scene. *So, let's assume that European salons indeed have some legs in 2016. How would you test that idea out? Well, that's what we have tried here in Torino (for indeed I am in Turin now, for 24 hours at least). *We built a home that is entirely dedicated to the local Torino Fab Lab.
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permalink #167 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:40
permalink #167 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:40
*If you think about it, a "fab lab" is a kind of "salon" for digital production machinery. You may own saws, a lathe, 3DPrinters, but you need a community to gather over the tools. That requires human presence, got a host or hostess, the "mistress of the salon" who keeps the lights on and oils the machineries of collaborative social networking. *There are now over 30 Fab Labs in various corners of Italy. Torino had the first Italian Fab Lab. Now it's got the first *residency" in a Fab Lab anywhere to my knowledge. It's called "Casa Jasmina." http://casajasmina.arduino.cc *Massimo Banzi of Arduino/Genuino named Casa Jasmina after Jasmina Tesanovic (my wife) because Jasmina is more or less the "mistress of the salon" within this Maker Culture enterprise.
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permalink #168 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:40
permalink #168 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:40
*It took us quite a while to get the place up and running, because lofting out a house inside a derelict European factory is no picnic. https://www.flickr.com/photos/brucesterling/albums/72157647536440143 *But, eventually, we managed. So, in 2016, Casa Jasmina has heating, lighting, plumbing, a kitchen, pantry, rather a lot of odd Maker furniture, broadband, 3DPrinters next door, a big robot downstairs and other necessities of modern life. People from the Maker scene are, in fact, residing in Casa Jasmina, on occasion. We even have an AirBnB account and could rent the place out if we felt like it. *It's an open question if you could start a "salon" in a private home and have that really work in 2016. But Casa Jasmina is not a private home, it just closely resembles one, and it's not a classic European culture salon, it's a European technoculture salon. In reality, Casa Jasmina is a crypto-domestic space within a huge ex-factory also occupied by a Fab Lab, an open-source electronics company, a printing house and a rather large rent-and-share complex for designers, "Toolbox CoWorking." Therefore the "Casa" is a kind of club-house, a domestic front-scene, or even a promotional billboard of sorts, for its busy sister enterprises within a Turinese post-industrial setting.
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permalink #169 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:41
permalink #169 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:41
*The interesting and important aspect is that the social mood of this factory complex definitely changes within the context of "house." People simply change their behavior, because of the polite domestic cues around them. They can't help it. They talk differently; they act differently. *You walk in the house, and it's not a factory; there are artworks on the walls, ambient theme music plays. There's a private library with interesting books on widely assorted cultural topics. It smells like fresh coffee and Piedmontese food. Somebody took some trouble with the paint job. There's even a specialized kid's room, where the entirely fictional children of Casa Jasmina pretend to live. Once inside the Casa Jasmina venue, people go all un-businesslike, quite suddenly. They stop trying to make-their-numbers and, instead, relax and let their hair down. It's still a Maker house, but instead of being all about Maker websites and Maker instruction manuals, suddenly it's about Maker Culture.
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permalink #170 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:42
permalink #170 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:42
*People in other European cities seem to like this idea. We just got back from explaining it at a Maker Faire in Munich, where the locals are simpatico. It wouldn't surprise me if other open-source residencies show up soon in other cities, because Europe is overrun with derelict industrial zones that have been clumsily transformed into "creative quarters." *Also, it's logically and culturally consistent. As Jasmina pointed out in the Fab Lab two years ago, if you're a Maker into open source hardware and software, and you boldly claim that you have the capacity to "make" all kinds of cool stuff, then why don't you "make" something that people in Europe really need: a place to live? *It's a provocative concept, and it's gathering attention from groups that we knew nothing about. It's not proven successful yet, but I'm thinking that 2016 will be quite a strong year for this effort, and we'll be quite busy at it. We'll be hosting students, seminars, cultural events; in the salon of Casa Jasmina, we seem to have a lot of new friends in 2016 that we didn't know we had.
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permalink #171 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:54
permalink #171 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 19 Jan 16 05:54
Also, Bruce and Jasmina will be talking about Casa Jasmina at SXSW Interactive, in March... http://schedule.sxsw.com/2016/events/event_PP49446
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permalink #172 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 11:38
permalink #172 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 11:38
"We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us really happy is something to be enthusiastic about. ― Charles Kingsley. He was a career Christian functionary, but a devotee of Charles Darwin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kingsley
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permalink #173 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 12:32
permalink #173 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 12:32
*Pretty much what I said on the Well here, but I've got a microphone on my hand and I am staring into the startled face of Spaniards whose first language isn't English. https://youtu.be/ZTj3NeeIGo0
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permalink #174 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 19 Jan 16 13:01
permalink #174 of 179: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 19 Jan 16 13:01
"... a European Union internal cultural export..."
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permalink #175 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 23:34
permalink #175 of 179: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Tue 19 Jan 16 23:34
You never know what fate will hand you. Hope to be back here next year. Now, I've got to catch a train.
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