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permalink #76 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 7 Jan 17 01:38
permalink #76 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 7 Jan 17 01:38
*If anybody thinks that standard Al Gore rationalist, scientific Blue State leftie environmentalists are destined to be the heroes of this great crisis of our civilization, well, they haven't been entirely ineffectual, but they've gotta be one of the least successful mass movements ever. The real inconvenient truth is that the truth is just not the be-all and end-all for people. If scientific evidence convinced mankind, nobody would be religious. I wouldn't "give up" about the ongoing struggle against the continuing climate crisis, but it won't be reasonable Bright Green technocratic solutions, passed by competent American governments, saving the day here. That day's not gonna get saved. That "day" is well past now, and it might have passed way back in Earth Day 1970. The ruins of the unsustainable are the 21st century's frontier. Given the trends, it's pretty clear that the unsustainable is gonna get ruined a lot faster than it looked. We're Anthropocenic now. That's where we live.
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permalink #77 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 7 Jan 17 01:38
permalink #77 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 7 Jan 17 01:38
*With that said, I get annoyed by the kind of febrile leftist melancholia that says, "Well, they failed to do what was obviously correct by my cogent analysis, and therefore a Dark Age looms." It's not that your analysis was even mistaken, it's just that reality isn't bound by your rationality. There's a hell of a lot of malignant carbon up in the sky, but black swans abound in this world. We could get a Tuva super volcano some day. Any day, really; they exist. There could be a nuclear exchange. And in both of those dire cases, people would still be alive, thinking, and acting. Maybe even you and I would be alive then. Probably not, statistically speaking, but somebody would live. "Climate change" wouldn't matter much in those circumstances. It would still be around, and severe, too, but it would be public issue number ten or so. Should humanity "give up"? What would we "give up" about, exactly? We personally would obviously be traumatized and future shocked, but what makes us the ultimate moral and historical barometer? People would born into that post-unthinkable world. Are they supposed to "give up" as soon as they're born? Why? It's not "unthinkable" or "apocalyptic" for them. For them, it's just what there is.
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permalink #78 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 7 Jan 17 01:39
permalink #78 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 7 Jan 17 01:39
Also, in case you're reaching for the Oxycontin, consider it this other way. Suppose that Mar-a-Lago suddenly washes away in a Florida Katrina, drowning half of The Donald's family. The Donald gets climate change religion suddenly, because, you know, The Donald is a volatile, post-ideological guy. He then tells the Republicans that climate change has to become their own issue. The Sec-State/Exxon Mobil capo publicly recants and admits he was wrong about everything. The fundies take to their pulpits everywhere to demand that Southern Baptists become ardent biblical greens. The Sarah says not to drill baby drill any more, etc. The American Right just steals the clothes of the Left and has at it, the way they're suddenly pro-Russian. *Do you think that this modern weird coalition of moguls and fundies really has it together to "solve" anything that matters? Even if they changed their minds about one of their many major misjudgments, would they have the competence and capacity to make any effective amends? They can certainly be active, they can rally, they can pass legislation, but how would they effectively measure what they had done? They're not technocrats. They don't care what's real. And if they're basically useless, ineffective, for acts of good, then why presume that they are somehow super-effective for bad? Ted Cruz is the kind of guy who would have been really effective for bad. Donald Trump is a horny game-show host. It's plenty weird that he became President, I'd rank that about Fubar 9.2 on the official metric scale of contemporary weirdness. However, he's not suddenly a mystical genius or demiurge of mass destruction. He's a 70-year-old Donald Trump. We're in for a Punch-and-Judy show here.
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permalink #79 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sat 7 Jan 17 04:53
permalink #79 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sat 7 Jan 17 04:53
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permalink #80 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sat 7 Jan 17 07:15
permalink #80 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sat 7 Jan 17 07:15
https://archive.org/details/JDLasicaBruceSterlingreadsCarlSandburg
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permalink #81 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sat 7 Jan 17 07:18
permalink #81 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sat 7 Jan 17 07:18
Thanks to @dan_blick for reminding us of Bruce's closing remarks at SXSW 2006
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permalink #82 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 7 Jan 17 07:36
permalink #82 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sat 7 Jan 17 07:36
https://www.instagram.com/anya.chapman/ *The Instagram account of Russia spy, money launderer, TV star and fashionista Anna Chapman. She is killing it!
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permalink #83 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sat 7 Jan 17 08:47
permalink #83 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sat 7 Jan 17 08:47
These findings add weight to the idea that the planet is now entering an Anthropocene epoch, a geological measurement of time in which humans are having a significant global impact on the Earth's geology and ecosystems. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38519299?utm_content=buffer0ef7d&u tm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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permalink #84 of 198: Jeffrey Vagle (jvagle) Sat 7 Jan 17 10:14
permalink #84 of 198: Jeffrey Vagle (jvagle) Sat 7 Jan 17 10:14
There's a fair bit of conflict preparation going on globally (some of it more subtle than others) in areas (both geographic and topical) that haven't seen this activity in quite some time, if ever. https://warisboring.com/in-lithuania-learning-how-to-block-tanks-with-trees-is -back-in-fashion-be80504454db#.ezvbwuvz7 https://www.eff.org/document/eff-ad-wired-pdf Are we seeing a renewed resurgence of the "fortune favors the prepared" philosophy?
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permalink #85 of 198: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Sat 7 Jan 17 15:08
permalink #85 of 198: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Sat 7 Jan 17 15:08
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permalink #86 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 7 Jan 17 15:22
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permalink #87 of 198: Brian Slesinsky (jonl) Sat 7 Jan 17 15:26
permalink #87 of 198: Brian Slesinsky (jonl) Sat 7 Jan 17 15:26
From Brian Slesinsky via email: In 2017 it seems that propaganda forces of Russia and 4chan and hundreds of millions of uncritical readers are winning at turning the Internet into the "net of a million lies". Let's optimistically assume for the sake of the argument that most people reading this have some reasonable grip on the state of the world and can mostly tell what to believe and what to ignore. But if you didn't start out that way, how do you learn to be a reasonably informed scavenger of the trash heap? It seems like that might be harder than ever: "[...] too many students I met were being told that Wikipedia was untrustworthy and were, instead, being encouraged to do research. As a result, the message that many had taken home was to turn to Google and use whatever came up first. They heard that Google was trustworthy and Wikipedia was not." Did Media Literacy Backfire? https://points.datasociety.net/did-media-literacy-backfire-7418c084d88d "I guess you could consider this a form of epistemic learned helplessness, where I know any attempt to evaluate the arguments are just going to be a bad idea so I don't even try. If you have a good argument that the Early Bronze Age worked completely differently from the way mainstream historians believe, I just don't want to hear about it. If you insist on telling me anyway, I will nod, say that your argument makes complete sense, and then totally refuse to change my mind or admit even the slightest possibility that you might be right. "I consider myself lucky in that my epistemic learned helplessness is circumscribed [...] But I think the average high school dropout both doesn't and shouldn't. Anyone anywhere - politicians, scammy businessmen, smooth-talking romantic partners - would be able to argue her into anything. And so she takes the obvious and correct defensive manuever - she will never let anyone convince her of any belief that sounds 'weird' (note that, if you grow up in the right circles, beliefs along the lines of astrology not working sound 'weird'.)" Epistemic learned helplessness http://squid314.livejournal.com/350090.html
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permalink #88 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 7 Jan 17 16:05
permalink #88 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sat 7 Jan 17 16:05
Thinking of a couple of possibilities: 1) the lack of critical thinking and resulting aggressive adherence to ideas formed uncritically and without solid basis in evidence or thoughtful research may not be a new phenomenon. Evidence-based, scientific reasoning and critical thinking were likely exceptional, but ill-informed thinking and belief was not visible, not shared widely via public media as they are in the Internet era. Or 2) most people simply didn't presume to think, and deferred idea and belief to authorities: science, government, the church, journalists and editors, etc. Regardless, we now have an explosion of ideas and exchanges that are rooted in ignorance and assumption and not clearly and critically considered; memes that circulate via slogans and images and compelling, disposable packets of belief. Trump's mastery of these forms, his ability to capture and own so much attention and ride it to the top of the political heap, can be seen as an extreme deliverable of the state of social and shared media. (Digression: it wasn't so much Trump, but his smart son-in-law Jared Kushner. Trump's campaign was in disarray until Kushner took the helm, figured out how the media machines work in the 21st century, and built the smart, agile, responsive organization that won the day.) I've been arguing what I felt was fact vs belief with some acquaintances who, I felt, were smart but misguided. It's a waste of time, and I should know better. A study recently showed that, if someone has a strong belief and they're confronted contrary factual evidence, they won't change their thinking - they'll dig in more aggressively. You literally can't show people "the error of their ways." And they won't see their biases, which raises a question for me: in what ways am I ignoring facts, what biases do I have, how solid is the foundation of my thinking? I spent time sitting still and watching my mind without judgement, and I find that softens the tendency to become entrenched, and occasionally I can see around my biases and assumptions. The adoption of mindful meditation as a regular practice is growing, it's even prescribed, apparently by professional psych shamans as a medicine for melancholy. So perhaps there's a chance of softening, a chance that more of us will become less attached to our assumptions and beliefs. And we could certainly adopt another practice, that of critical and cautious thinking. Science is powerful because it demands evidence, and even with evidence, the best scientists retain their skepticism. By watching my mind, and also by encountering time and again failings of my memory, I've come to have a skepticism even about what I think I've seen and what I think I know. (My wife will be surprised to read this: I should add that I don't always behave as I should, knowing what I don't know.) I suppose I'm just skeptical enough to know that skepticism is a helpful default.
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permalink #89 of 198: John Payne (satyr) Sat 7 Jan 17 23:41
permalink #89 of 198: John Payne (satyr) Sat 7 Jan 17 23:41
I've long thought that philosophy should be a required subject in high school, with heavy emphasis on epistemology and ethics.
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permalink #90 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sun 8 Jan 17 02:41
permalink #90 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sun 8 Jan 17 02:41
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permalink #91 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sun 8 Jan 17 03:03
permalink #91 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sun 8 Jan 17 03:03
http://casajasmina.arduino.cc/ Looks like Casa Jasmina is developing along quite nicely. How's the house and the Fablab community over in Torino?
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permalink #92 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 8 Jan 17 09:13
permalink #92 of 198: Bruce Sterling (bruces) Sun 8 Jan 17 09:13
It's great that so many are agreed that this is the Golden Age of Bullshit, but you don't see many people sincerely admitting, "You know what? I see now that my own beloved filter bubble has been full of bullshit!"
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permalink #93 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 8 Jan 17 09:28
permalink #93 of 198: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 8 Jan 17 09:28
I'll readily admit it. Trick is to separate the good shit from the bullshit!
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permalink #94 of 198: Jeffrey Vagle (jvagle) Sun 8 Jan 17 10:15
permalink #94 of 198: Jeffrey Vagle (jvagle) Sun 8 Jan 17 10:15
But filter bubbles turn out to be more resilient that I think we'd like to admit. Even when we consciously seek contrary facts and opinions, we run up against human nature, as illustrated by research in social judgment theory, the change-discrepancy relationship, and boomerang effect. I'm neither a psychologist nor a sociologist, but my understanding of the current literature points to a certain level of skepticism re puncturing filter bubbles.
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permalink #95 of 198: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Sun 8 Jan 17 12:33
permalink #95 of 198: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Sun 8 Jan 17 12:33
Those bubbles are maintained by human psychology, not by philosophy or technology or logic. The human species is psychologically deeply damaged. It's our inheritance from our own evolution as animals. The way to 'convince' someone of things they don't believe is to support them as they learn and heal. Most of us don't have enough psychological slack of our own to do that work.
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permalink #96 of 198: John Payne (satyr) Sun 8 Jan 17 15:43
permalink #96 of 198: John Payne (satyr) Sun 8 Jan 17 15:43
Eric Weinstein and Dave Rubin on Fake News, Trump, and the Mathematical Mind (Full Interview) https://youtu.be/LruYnDjkOgU The first 6:45 is Rubin talking about what he's up to with The Rubin Report. Then the interview begins, running for more than an hour and a half. Worth every minute!
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permalink #97 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sun 8 Jan 17 15:44
permalink #97 of 198: Ted Newcomb (tcn) Sun 8 Jan 17 15:44
For your entertainment...a 'charticle' from David McCndless, Intermental Disorders: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/intermental/
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permalink #98 of 198: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Sun 8 Jan 17 20:49
permalink #98 of 198: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Sun 8 Jan 17 20:49
From Mark, via email: < And if they're basically useless, ineffective, for acts of good, then why presume that they are somehow super-effective for bad? > Ted Cruz is the kind of guy who would have been really effective for bad. This seems logical but it uses a false premise. The republicans have been making plans to diminish federal agencies for years. The asymmetry is that is is easier to destroy than to create. What about the likely scenarios that they break agencies and fail to replace them with anything that works? I feel like too much of this discussion centers around Trump. He's unlikely to be an effective bureaucrat. What about the GOP's ongoing usurpation of power, as witnessed by this latest coup giving themselves power to control the civil service via salary manipulation? http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/congress-can-now-cut-the-pay-of-i ndividual-civil-servants.html I'd like to hear commentary on this, as it makes an end-run around division of the federal bureaucracy from party politics and the ability of agencies to manage themselves. "Fire this guy or else! Hire this guy or else!"
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permalink #99 of 198: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Sun 8 Jan 17 20:51
permalink #99 of 198: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Sun 8 Jan 17 20:51
From Bradley, via email: What of self driving OTR semis, even waldos. Are they targets for pirates? Or will a Wal-Mart rig just be seen as the only workable safe interstate point to point schism in a grand distribution plan that could never do it all? Tech militarization of national internal security forces seems to be accelerating.Then there was that land-drone taking out a military combat sniper in Dallas.How soon will an Amazon delivery robot tase a vandal or thief, robocop style?
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permalink #100 of 198: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Sun 8 Jan 17 20:53
permalink #100 of 198: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Sun 8 Jan 17 20:53
From Scott Karl, via email: Hi guys, always love this discussion to start off the year. I've been living in Asia for seven years now (Korea for four, China for three), and I'm constantly shocked how much western media seems to drink the Kool-Aid about the wonders of Asia in general and China in particular. From here, China is a complete mess that is teetering on the brink of collapse (the past year their economy has been completely imploding), while people in the westthe UK especiallyseem to treat it as our new overlords. What's with the disconnect? For a specific example, lately I've seen a lot of articles about China taking over solar power production. I've also seen those solar power sites in person. They're fake, they don't exist. The ones that get shown off are a ring of actual solar panels surrounding a field of plastic sheeting painted to look like photovoltaic cells. It takes about an hour to find this out. I see stories about how great Asian education is, and from years of working in it that just makes me laugh. They all graduate college because it's literally impossible to fail out! Those amazing test scores? They're fake. They take the best three schools in Shanghai and report that as the entire country's results. I don't get why anyone's buying this stuff. The Chinese sure aren't. A lot of Koreans were satisfied with their lives but the real Chinese Dream seems to be getting the heck out of China, not whatever Xi Jinping was trying to sell them on. I have never met or even heard of a single Chinese person with the means who is not actively trying to get their assets out and get someone in the family a foreign passport so they can emigrate.
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