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permalink #951 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 26 Oct 00 04:58
permalink #951 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 26 Oct 00 04:58
I shall look for Martha's book on Amazon immediately. The Herring Song reminds me-- once, in college, I was wandering around the bookstore and found, in the remaindered/forgotten section, a book called "The Lammas Drave and the Winter Herrin': a history of Herring Fishing out of East Fife." I promptly bought it, and while I found it to be astonishingly boring, it did have a long (12 stanza) poem abut herring fishing, wherein each stanza ended with the word, "Herrin'." The poem was written by the author's father, an East Fife herring fisherman. I will reprint the first stanza here (I have memorized all 12.) I am doing this WITHOUT the author's permission, so please DO NOT reprint this stanza for profit. The shades o' nicht were drappin' fast When oot o' Anster Harbor passed A fleet o' craft o' various sort A'keen to catch, but nae for sport The herrin'.
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permalink #952 of 1905: Elise Matthesen (lioness) Thu 26 Oct 00 09:56
permalink #952 of 1905: Elise Matthesen (lioness) Thu 26 Oct 00 09:56
That ranks up there with "Nevermore" for Taglines Capable Of Being Spoken In A Sepulchral Voice....
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permalink #953 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 26 Oct 00 10:27
permalink #953 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 26 Oct 00 10:27
"the herrin'..." booga booga booga!
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permalink #954 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 26 Oct 00 22:57
permalink #954 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 26 Oct 00 22:57
I keep hearing Lorne Greene saying "Ringo, Ringo" when I read that.
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permalink #955 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 26 Oct 00 22:58
permalink #955 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 26 Oct 00 22:58
Mary Roane e-mails and solves a mystery... Post # 923, the mystery post, was from me. Mimi & Randi--the crowd laughed at "Nicholas was..." in Chicago, too. It was a sort of 'light dawning' laugh as they figured out who Nicholas was. I was sort of surprised, too--it had always creeped me out. I laugh, but it's a laugh with a shiver in it. Neil--Well, this is it. I hope it's a great night tonight. And I hope that although this is the Last Angel Tour, it won't be the last reading. You're too good at this not to do it occasionally. Break a leg tonight! Mary Roane
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permalink #956 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 26 Oct 00 22:58
permalink #956 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 26 Oct 00 22:58
From Tree: Hi Neil, thingies and Well people Neil, it's official, you are going to have to tour Australia with the Guardian Angel Tour. Australian customs just banned the importation of 'From Hell' by Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell. Apparently a female customs officer in Perth, Western Australia, took offence at a scene in the book and called for it to be banned. Apparently Sandman and Preacher have been investigated closely as well. You can read more about it here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/comicbrief/ You have spoken before about how lucky the US is to have the first amendment, what do us poor suckers outside the US need to do to defend our right to read comics? Do you (or the CBLDF guys) have any suggestions? Thanks for being such a gracious guest to all our endless (pun intended) questions. I look forward to saving up all my pennies and ha'pennies to drag myself over to your part of the world and seeing you read again (not to mention playing with thingies). Tree (Hi Rocky! Drop me an email sometime, girl!)
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permalink #957 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Fri 27 Oct 00 00:54
permalink #957 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Fri 27 Oct 00 00:54
Oh, Hell.
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permalink #958 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Fri 27 Oct 00 00:55
permalink #958 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Fri 27 Oct 00 00:55
No pun intended. That is just aweful.
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permalink #959 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Oct 00 01:34
permalink #959 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Oct 00 01:34
Back from LA reading... It's 1:30 am and I haven't eaten for a long time, and I hope that room service starts answering their phone soon. I think everybody had a good time. Tree, I wish I knew what you could do. My immediate suggestion would be to form an Australian Defense Fund. The trouble is that my experience in the UK indicates that Customs have infinite, fickle, powers. Meanwhile, pass the word around. Have people write to their MPs and complain. Couldn't hurt. Nobody laughed at Nicholas Was tonight, but it was a strange sort of evening. Very different to the last ones, as well... Some nice bits for the CD, I think.
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permalink #960 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Oct 00 01:36
permalink #960 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Oct 00 01:36
ps: http://www.eddiecampbellcomics.com/ is the place to get updates and information.
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permalink #961 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 27 Oct 00 04:49
permalink #961 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Fri 27 Oct 00 04:49
What made it strange?
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permalink #962 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Oct 00 19:27
permalink #962 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 27 Oct 00 19:27
It was the last one, and it felt like it: an odd tone, strange, sweet, almost elegiac.
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permalink #963 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sat 28 Oct 00 05:23
permalink #963 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sat 28 Oct 00 05:23
Did it give you a sense of regret that this was the last tour?
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permalink #964 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 28 Oct 00 23:06
permalink #964 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 28 Oct 00 23:06
Nope. No regret at all. It was like running a marathon every couple of nights for two weeks. But it will have raised about $60,000 for the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund. Which can't be bad. And that's not counting whatever we do with the audio CDs and the Video. ... Yesterday was an impromptu take your daughter to work day, as the friend of ours who was going to look after Holly had a family emergency. And it was great -- Much of the day was spent at Hensons, and Lisa Henson's attitude was "My Dad always let me come to meetings..." So Holly did. We had a great time. Today I took Holly, and my god-daughters, Sky and Winter, to Universal Studios, along with their mum, Ivy McCloud (and Scott McCloud joined us for dinner). We only had a couple of hours there, but I was VIP enough to be given a magic Go To The Front Of Any Line pass, which meant we did the park in a little over two hours instead of a day. Which is about my limit anyway. Home tomorrow. I'll catch up soon on everything, including The Well. Promise.
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permalink #965 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 28 Oct 00 23:24
permalink #965 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 28 Oct 00 23:24
My friend Cory is too decent a person to hate you for getting to go to the front of the Disney lines, but I'll bet he'd like to go with you the next time--
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permalink #966 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 29 Oct 00 00:53
permalink #966 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 29 Oct 00 00:53
Dunno if it'd work at Disney any more -- my Disney folks have, most of them, long since moved on. I had a memorable behind-the-scenes at DisneyWorld, some years ago, though.
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permalink #967 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 29 Oct 00 07:50
permalink #967 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 29 Oct 00 07:50
This sounds crazy, but I used to have a recurring nightmare in which I went to Disney and there were NO LINES. So instead of waiting forever, there were no waits at all and it was kind of abrupt and creepy. I've always seen the lines at Disney, since they were unavoidable, as being an integral part of the experience-- a kind of foreplay. A... boring kind of foreplay.
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permalink #968 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 29 Oct 00 07:52
permalink #968 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 29 Oct 00 07:52
btw, my wife thinks it's really cool that you're godfather to the McCloud kids.
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permalink #969 of 1905: Randi (randi-ilene) Sun 29 Oct 00 12:54
permalink #969 of 1905: Randi (randi-ilene) Sun 29 Oct 00 12:54
I know it's a bit old, but I just wanted to forward a thank you from Chris at Eddie Campbell Comics for sending people to that site for info; the CBR link was probably my fault, not Tree's, cos that's what I posted to newsgroup. Apologies. -randi who wonders if the fact that Henson allows young people at their meetings is telling statement on why their stuff seems to respect children of all ages (including mine) more than much of what is out there.
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permalink #970 of 1905: miss mousey (miss-mousey) Sun 29 Oct 00 13:15
permalink #970 of 1905: miss mousey (miss-mousey) Sun 29 Oct 00 13:15
Howdy Neil, (and Thingies and Other Well-folk) Just wanted to thank you muchly for the Blueberry poem. Totally didn't expect you to share it and even bit my tongue back to request it when you asked what I'd like to hear. So thank you. :) The new batty additions to the stuffed animal shelves also appreciated the visuals in the lemon-fresh bat story. :) (Cassie suggests that perhaps you should find a bat-scented solvent for future occurences) -michelle ps - Have you ever before noticed the startling resemblance between Geoffrey Sonnabend and Charles Fort?
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permalink #971 of 1905: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Sun 29 Oct 00 17:16
permalink #971 of 1905: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Sun 29 Oct 00 17:16
The scariest thing about Disneyland is no matter how cynical you are about the very idea of a theme park, once you catch sight of Micky Mouse it's like you're programmed to start screaming "MICKEY!" at the top of your lungs and begin shoving startled toddlers out of the way in a mad rush to meet the world's most notorious rodent. For the life of me..I can't explain what came over me.
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permalink #972 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 29 Oct 00 17:49
permalink #972 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 29 Oct 00 17:49
Possessed by Cory Doctorow.
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permalink #973 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 29 Oct 00 19:14
permalink #973 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Sun 29 Oct 00 19:14
It is a check-your-so-called-sophistication-at-the-door sort of place.
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permalink #974 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 29 Oct 00 20:57
permalink #974 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 29 Oct 00 20:57
Randi -- I think a lot of the respect is Jim Henson's legacy. I'm very grateful that Lisa's there. Hensons is delightful. They even have a book club, which has been reading NEVERWHERE, so I talked to them for a bit and answered questions. And you -- and the Eddie Campbell web site -- are very welcome for the link. I find it ironic that while I was stumping around the US trying, mainly, to tell people that the first amendment is a good thing and that they should work to protect and maintain it and not take it for granted, especially where comics are concerned, some idiot jobsworth in the Australian Customs Department just made the case for the first amendment much better than I did, by making sure that Australians are denied access to what is probably the most significant work of graphic fiction in the last fifteen years. Michelle -- I was always more intrigued by the similarities between Karl Marx and Charles Fort, but it's a book/story/comic I'll probably never find the time for. Thanks so much to you and to all the mob of thingies for turning up and helping out in Los Angeles. The thing that made me happiest about the Blueberry poem was the clicks of tape recorders from all over the hall as I asked anyone bootlegging it not to tape that bit. Rocky -- I dunno. Many years ago I had to do a photo shoot at Disneyworld, and I could swear the Mickey i was posing with was coming on to me... it made it very slightly surreal. (Most of the Mickeys and Ducks are girls, btw -- they have to be for the size of the costume.) Home again, and happy to be home.
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permalink #975 of 1905: Reg (regosborne) Sun 29 Oct 00 23:07
permalink #975 of 1905: Reg (regosborne) Sun 29 Oct 00 23:07
I am both saddened and infuriated by the "From Hell" situation. I had always believed that we Australians did not need our right to free speech enshrined in law because we have always had the implied right of freedom from self-righteous gits dictating what is good for everyone. I am embarrassed at my own naivete. I am not sure what I find more disturbing about this case: That such a decision could be made on an arbitrary basis, by a single person whose anonymity can be legally protected in this country, (and well done Comics Journal for naming names and not being cowed,)or that it sets a precedent whereby historical fact is now considered fair game for censorship. I understand that the Campbell camp are taking a softly softly approach in this case, and I would do nothing do jeapordise that, but my initial response was to beat down the door of every media outlet in the country demanding the public humiliation of those involved in this appalling misuse of power by someone who goes by the title of "public servant". Reg "Dort, wo man Bucher verbennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch Menschen." -Heinrich Heine
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