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permalink #1201 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Thu 16 Nov 00 12:15
permalink #1201 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Thu 16 Nov 00 12:15
Well, my mother wouldn't let me read comics, so it's just as well our tastes aren't the same.
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permalink #1202 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Thu 16 Nov 00 13:15
permalink #1202 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Thu 16 Nov 00 13:15
My parents read neither comics nor much science fiction. Though my mother has surprised me lately by reading the Ender books and then telling me to read The Sparrow, saying I would like it even more than Ender's Game. I didn't, but at least she's reading stuff I like. Of course, it didn't help the year that my mother got me Doll's House for XMas, she flipped through it and of course happened to open to the Cereal Convention. She had a warped view of Sandman for a while after that.
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permalink #1203 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 16 Nov 00 15:15
permalink #1203 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 16 Nov 00 15:15
I got my dad to read most of Snow Crash; my mom's a Pinkwater fan, but that's cause of me. On the other hand, I inherited much of my taste in movies from my folks... we've been watching The Lion in Winter together for years (and isn't that twisted?)
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permalink #1204 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 16 Nov 00 16:15
permalink #1204 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 16 Nov 00 16:15
e-mail from Mary Roane Martha--My dad got me into sci-fi and fantasy--he read me "Hobbit', "Lord of the Rings", Narnia and Lloyd Alexander as a child, then I borrowed his Clarke, Asimov, Boucher, Leiber, etc. when I got a little older. One of my "friends" got me into comics. ;-p Neil--hoping St. Brendan oversees your trip, and you get to 100% soon. Amanda--LOVE the declaration. Read Pinkwater as an adult & wasn't as charmed as I might have been had I been younger. I'll go reread him & reconsider...... Mary P.S. Taking most of next week off, so I'll say this early--Happy Thanksgiving! This forum is definitely something for which to be thankful. May you get along with everyone at the feast, and be safe if you're traveling!
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permalink #1205 of 1905: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Thu 16 Nov 00 17:00
permalink #1205 of 1905: Mimi Ko (miko-chan) Thu 16 Nov 00 17:00
Neil - Too bad about American Gods, but I can definitely see the difficulty in that. Will hope for stories though! ^_- And have a nice, pleasant, non-illness-inducing flight... Books and Parental influence - I remember that my parents kept giving me the 'Goodness, you're not a kid any more, quit reading that!' line when they see me with comic books (Japanese manga, actually) in high school, and the 'You don't have space for all that!' line when they actually see how many comics/books I have. They've given up by now... I did get the chinese literature gene from my dad though. Not sure if there are any good translations of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms (*not* a love story :P) floating around, or I'd recommend that. As for sci fi/fantasy, it was my English teacher in 5/6th grade who read The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe at us... and I didn't wait for her to be finished, I ran out and bought and read it myself. ^_- Didn't discover English/American comics till senior year of high school, and of course the first thing that hit was Sandman (Doll's House, actually!). ^_- -- Mimi
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permalink #1206 of 1905: Tona (tona) Thu 16 Nov 00 17:13
permalink #1206 of 1905: Tona (tona) Thu 16 Nov 00 17:13
-If I may interject about the boxers, how about the glow-in-the-dark ones like Michelle suggested but with little "yes" words all over them when you turn of the lights, and "no" when you turn the lights on! I've always liked those. . .
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permalink #1207 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Thu 16 Nov 00 17:18
permalink #1207 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Thu 16 Nov 00 17:18
I never read Pinkwater as a kid, so my admiration of him is entirely grownup, I guess. As for parents and science fiction: my mother disallowed me from reading that, too, when I was in junior high. That meant I had to smuggle books and read at the library, is what it meant.
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permalink #1208 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 16 Nov 00 17:47
permalink #1208 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 16 Nov 00 17:47
Happy Thanksgiving Mary! I'm about to go "winter camping" with some friends, a trip about which I am highly dubious. So I appreciate your wishes for safe traveling.
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permalink #1209 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Thu 16 Nov 00 18:43
permalink #1209 of 1905: Amanda Slack-Smith (ancient-booer) Thu 16 Nov 00 18:43
My Mum actively discouraged my reading anything that wasn't school related - she had this vision of my grandiose career as a violinist and any time I was reading could be spent practicing. She still doesn't know that all those times she dropped me of at the church hall to practice I always had a book tucked away in the case. I think that explains why I never became a virtuoso :P
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permalink #1210 of 1905: Maryan Pelland (maryan-pell) Thu 16 Nov 00 19:37
permalink #1210 of 1905: Maryan Pelland (maryan-pell) Thu 16 Nov 00 19:37
My favorite Aunt Marge worked for Woolworth's - every month, when they tore the covers off the old comics and threw them away to make room for the new, she would bring every freakin one of them home to my brother and I. We had them literally stacked to the ceiling. I credit large parts of my runaway imagination to those incredible books. We had the funny ones - Little Audrey, Richie Rich, Casper, Dennis the Menace, etc, and the action ones = Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, The Hulk, Fantastic Four, Wonder Woman (Goddess! I wanted to be her!) The books were no good for collecting. because the covers were torn, but they were sooooo good for us. Then one day mom got tired of the stacks and stacks and she pitched them all in the garbage, along with our Davy Crocket record. (claimed one more chorus of King of the Wild Frontier would send her to a padded cell.) It was all good while it lasted.
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permalink #1211 of 1905: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Thu 16 Nov 00 19:42
permalink #1211 of 1905: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Thu 16 Nov 00 19:42
Streak - Great idea for a glass globe. Perhaps one for each of the Endless? Mine would be Despair sitting on a granite rock, elbows on her knees, holding her face in her hands with very shiny spangly black snow all around. Randi - Love the Wednesdays..and we Thingies are so flexible about Tuesdays. But please..no mention of VD yet...way too early. It's bad enough that I have to keep trying not to turn homicidal every time I walk by my neighbor's house. He's got the ultimate Xmas megawatt winter wonderland lighting up and running already. Grrrr... Shira - I sympathize with you on the subject of math. Was never really good at it, and just my luck, I took the NYC Real Estate Broker's exam the other day and for the first time in decades they had math. Arrrgh! [I passed. *grin*] Neil - DC shouldn't be too worried about Dream's nudity, after all, doesn't Swampie run around in the buff? O.K., so maybe he has a few strategically placed mushrooms..so couldn't DC consider some discretely placed draping for Dream? Maybe Burgess left his cape in the room? Hmm..I can't see Dream in boxers..got a feeling nothing gets between him and those black Levis. Do demi-gods even *need* underware? And statistically speaking about VD, break-ups might be the norm considering the enormous pressure put on both parties. All the best wishes for a safe trip! Books & Comics - Loved Ancient Egyptian and Greek mythology which led to a love of heroes and legends which eventually got me into science fiction/fantasy and comics. I think my first scifi book was "A Wrinkle in Time" by Madeline L'Engle. Anyway, I got tired of the whole "macho hero" type except Batman and stopped reading comics for a long time. One day back in late '82, for some reason I was in a comic book shop and some guy hands me THE SANDMAN. He rants and raves about it. Tells me he'll see me back in the shop the next day for the rest. No kidding! Since then I've been an avid reader and collector. One day I'm going to find him and kick his butt for getting me addicted! ;p Len - Have a safe trip sweetie! Camping eh? Did it once..Mother Nature and I didn't see eye-to-eye. How about a Motel 6 near the forest? Now that's what I call 'roughing it'. *grin*
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permalink #1212 of 1905: -N. (streak) Thu 16 Nov 00 20:14
permalink #1212 of 1905: -N. (streak) Thu 16 Nov 00 20:14
I'm not sure one could do glass-globe sculptures of the other Endless, since Dream is the only one who's spent much time in a glass globe. Unless, of course, that happens to them a lot and they just don't admit it. "This is interesting... historical records indicating that for 40 years nothing much happened. Seems Destiny was in a globe." As to the nudity, I just sort of assumed the sculpture would be in a pose where his crotch was at least partly obscured, and then just leave off his naughty bits. Sitting cross-legged, hands in lap, bending forward and staring balefully, for example.
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permalink #1213 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Thu 16 Nov 00 21:32
permalink #1213 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Thu 16 Nov 00 21:32
One might think that the Endless only have naughty bits when they want to.
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permalink #1214 of 1905: excessively heterosexual (saiyuk) Fri 17 Nov 00 00:35
permalink #1214 of 1905: excessively heterosexual (saiyuk) Fri 17 Nov 00 00:35
There was no Pinkwater when I was a child and oh how I wish there had been. But I started reading him in my early thirties and have loved him ever since, particularly the two Snarkout Boys books and Young Adult (or Young Adult Novel, if that's the title of the alternate version).
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permalink #1215 of 1905: -N. (streak) Fri 17 Nov 00 03:38
permalink #1215 of 1905: -N. (streak) Fri 17 Nov 00 03:38
I read both Snarkout Boys books as a kid, and Avocado Of Death probably close to 10 times. I've been meaning to read more Pinkwater for years and years, but never remember at the right times.
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permalink #1216 of 1905: Jouni koponen (jonl) Fri 17 Nov 00 05:24
permalink #1216 of 1905: Jouni koponen (jonl) Fri 17 Nov 00 05:24
Email from Jouni Koponen: Hi there Len - Thanks. I wouldn't have called that dry. INFORMATIVE was the term that sprang into my mind. Just what I needed. Have a nice weekend everybody. Jouni
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permalink #1217 of 1905: Konsigliari Kafka of the Cosa Nozzo (kafclown) Fri 17 Nov 00 07:44
permalink #1217 of 1905: Konsigliari Kafka of the Cosa Nozzo (kafclown) Fri 17 Nov 00 07:44
I just finished reading Lizard Music and Yobgorgle:Mystery Monster of Lake Ontario. Fine, funny stuff.
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permalink #1218 of 1905: Mary Roane (jonl) Fri 17 Nov 00 09:07
permalink #1218 of 1905: Mary Roane (jonl) Fri 17 Nov 00 09:07
Email from Mary Roane: Rocky--Congratulations! That rocks! Len--I shall think about you specially as I eat my way across Chicago (sometimes living far from the family pays off--*everyone* invites you for the holidays ;-p ) I sort of thought the Dream snow globe would be that splash page of him I vaguely remember, face down on the floor, sort of curled up. That way no Dream-y naughty bits make an appearance......and Destiny's could have little book pages floating around.....but I really want Delirium's. Oh, let's face it, I'd get them all. Amanda--your mom encouraged you to be a musician? That's cool. Many parents run in terror. Maryan--you had the coolest aunt ever. Goes off singing "kilt him a bar when he was only 3...." Mary (who's reading "Nevermore", a mystery starring Edgar Allen Poe&....Davy Crockett)
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permalink #1219 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 17 Nov 00 10:25
permalink #1219 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 17 Nov 00 10:25
I'm suddenly reminded of a young English Lit teacher I had at Oregon (oooh, and he was cute too!) who decided that during his "Epic Stories" quarter, he'd start off with Genesis and Exodus (from the bible) and then continue with a couple of issues of Silver Surfer. Rocky - congrats! And I'd hate to think why you'd need to know math... And going back to a post to afn-g from years ago, I'd like my Dream glass globe with accessories consisting of pouch, helm and ruby, just out of reach of the Sandman. :) -squeaks, who updated her webpage recently - and there are photos of the Leeloo outfit on both the 'me' page and 'fogphoto3' <shameless plug> http://www.snafu.org/michelle/ </plug>
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permalink #1220 of 1905: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Fri 17 Nov 00 10:51
permalink #1220 of 1905: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Fri 17 Nov 00 10:51
Madman - One would think..wouldn't one? [Personally, I don't think Destiny has any naughty bits..at least I hope not!] Mary - Thanks! ;) Michelle - Gotta figure out percentages for mortages, loan to value reations, commissions and even maintenance/carrying charges on co-ops. Numbers my life! *ack!*
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permalink #1221 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Fri 17 Nov 00 12:19
permalink #1221 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Fri 17 Nov 00 12:19
Miss-Mousey- I have to ask. Which issues?
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permalink #1222 of 1905: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 17 Nov 00 13:16
permalink #1222 of 1905: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 17 Nov 00 13:16
Email from Jen: I do share some book tastes with my dad, though not as much as in junior high/high school. He got me on Poe and Verne in elementary school and back in junior high I borrowed all of his Stephen King, Michael Chrichton and Sherlock Holmes stuff. Also borrowed all of his mad magazines, b.c. books and mythology books when I was little. I really credit him and my older brother with getting me hooked on reading, there was always plenty of stuff lying around to pick up. I bought him Good Omens a year ago but he promptly got stuck on page 11. Couldn't get him to read Small Gods either. Found a great old copy of The Man Who Was Thursday for him last year, have to remember to make sure he read that at least. My mom on the other hand just complains that I read too much and should spend money on other things. Not quite sure what those things are though. Was in Half Price yesterday and saw a collection of Daniel Pinkwater stuff; decided to trust ya'll and bought it. Wish I would have come across this when I was younger but I guess then it wouldn't be something new for me to enjoy now. Dream in silk boxers... hmmmmm Michelle - great Leeloo outfit. :-) Jen. (who also had the davy crockett record when she was little and who is _this close_ to being out of debt and can subscribe to the well after christmas)
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permalink #1223 of 1905: shira burton (whispered) Fri 17 Nov 00 13:49
permalink #1223 of 1905: shira burton (whispered) Fri 17 Nov 00 13:49
Neil, what is the book "Breakthrough" about? I did a search for "Gaiman, Neil" on the internet card catalog for the high school I'm applying to (!!!!) and that's what came up. Any info. you can give me? -shira
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permalink #1224 of 1905: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Fri 17 Nov 00 15:00
permalink #1224 of 1905: Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Fri 17 Nov 00 15:00
Um...apparently I was drunk on Tazo tea during my last post. That should be "loan to value ratios" and "numbers are my life!" Jeeze.
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permalink #1225 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 17 Nov 00 18:08
permalink #1225 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 17 Nov 00 18:08
Shira -- it's a book about, or celebrating, the fall of the Berlin Wall. Dave mcKean and I have two pages in there -- it's just a little ponder about walls, really. Nothing more. *** Spent today mostly getting smoke squrted at me for hour after hour while my photo was taken. Probably the book jacket will use the one roll from the end of a four hour shoot where they didn't bother with the smoke machine. Cough. Cough. Also had a meeting at which (nextnovel).com was planned. It should have a lot of fun things on it. *** Physically am not 100% yet, but am resting and writing with a fountain pen and not using the computer much (except for this once) and that is a good thing. It's nice to be doing the scenes that the book needed to be pulled together...
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