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permalink #1726 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Tue 23 Jan 01 12:24
permalink #1726 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Tue 23 Jan 01 12:24
Jen- Wow, thank you for the offer. Tell you what- if you get a copy of Season of Mists that has the original cover, I'll swap you for the copy I have with the new cover. That way you'll still have plenty for the lending library.
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permalink #1727 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Tue 23 Jan 01 19:51
permalink #1727 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Tue 23 Jan 01 19:51
Neil-- It occurred to me tonight, not for the first time, that if I got propositioned/hit on/offered the services of a love slave as much as you have, my wife would go bananas. If it's not too personal a question, how does your wife deal?
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permalink #1728 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 23 Jan 01 21:12
permalink #1728 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 23 Jan 01 21:12
Streak -- ah, but you're too far away. but report back on how it tastes. Len -- oddly enough I spent the day editing The Book today, and I put back in a few descriptions my editor had suggested red-pencilling of the unpleasant taste of mead. I think she thought I'd rather overdone it. Len -- I think she's long since figured out that for 99% of the young ladies in question, while they may dress up pretty to come to a reading, and press really close when they get their photo taken, or whatever... if I actually took them up on their offers of becoming my love slave etc, they would run a mile. It's not about sex, more about being their Favourite Beatle. (Or as a very lovely young lady explained it to me at last ICFA, being Justin from N' Sync.)
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permalink #1729 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Tue 23 Jan 01 21:24
permalink #1729 of 1905: The music's played by the (madman) Tue 23 Jan 01 21:24
How times have changed.
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permalink #1730 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 23 Jan 01 23:28
permalink #1730 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 23 Jan 01 23:28
I don't think one can overstate the unpleasant taste of mead.
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permalink #1731 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 24 Jan 01 00:04
permalink #1731 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 24 Jan 01 00:04
I don't think one can overstate the unpleasant ick of N'Sync (their music any way). Damn, lost my train of thought. Don't you hate it when you log in, fully prepared with something interesting (for a change) to say, then you've finished reading the new posts and ... what was I going to say again? grrrr. But then, my mind has been in a million places all week, so I shouldn't be surprised. At least my stalker seems to have disappeared. squeaks, who prefers to be the stalker, not the stalkee
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permalink #1732 of 1905: -N. (streak) Wed 24 Jan 01 03:03
permalink #1732 of 1905: -N. (streak) Wed 24 Jan 01 03:03
Neil, in the highly unlikely event that I'm able to buy a $210 bottle of hootch, I will promptly report back here. Of course, by then we'll be celebrating the end of the Bush administration, so I may be a little distracted.
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permalink #1733 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Wed 24 Jan 01 05:01
permalink #1733 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Wed 24 Jan 01 05:01
Martha-- I would have said it, but you said it first: one can't overstate the unpleasantness of mead. Which is why it's so sad that we who love the sorts of literary genres where mead is featured are in for disappointment. Neil-- you obviously have a very cool and insightful wife. I am less than two weeks away from the opening of the North Shore Middle School Drama Club's production of Midsummer Night's Dream. I am a stresspuppy.... But all's well that ends well; all my worries are hopefully much ado about nothing.
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permalink #1734 of 1905: Brent Hogan (brent-hogan) Wed 24 Jan 01 12:44
permalink #1734 of 1905: Brent Hogan (brent-hogan) Wed 24 Jan 01 12:44
Hello Everyone! I've been reading this topic for about a month now, and I love the discussions that go on. So, now I want to take part. Ok, obligatory intro over. Neil- How picky are your editors over the content? Do they red-pencil descriptions that are too much for them personally, or what they think is too over the top for the reader? Len- That is so cool that a middle school is putting on Shakespeare. I think the only production my school put on was a play about an evil Santa Claus that tried to steal everyone's presents. I keep wondering if the kids ever recovered. Later all! Brent
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permalink #1735 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 24 Jan 01 13:26
permalink #1735 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 24 Jan 01 13:26
Among a group of letters responding to a Salon article that asserted the Narnia books are better than the Oz books is one by Cory Panshin, who remarks that Neil is one of "the three best contemporary fantasy writers" ("It's no coincidence," she says, they "are all British"). http://www.salon.com/books/letters/2001/01/10/oz/index.html
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permalink #1736 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 24 Jan 01 17:34
permalink #1736 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 24 Jan 01 17:34
Len -- so tell, what did you do, on your MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM, and how have you done it? Brent -- oh, the UK editors just check for spelling. US editors worry much more: I don't think she's worried about anything being over the top. Mostly I edit myself. (The maggot blowjob, for example, never even got written.) I think she's worried about me boring people by stopping and describing things rather than doing plot. Martha -- the nicest thing about that is the other two on the list are Terry Pratchett and Diana Wynne Jones. Which are two very good people to share a list with. Didn't Cory used to be one of the Genie people?
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permalink #1737 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 24 Jan 01 17:35
permalink #1737 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 24 Jan 01 17:35
And because I thought people might get a kick out of it... this is the letter I got from the Ice Hotel today... ......................... Ice Hotel Quebec-Canada Dear guests, Your time as finally arrived to live this amazing experience. It is no longer "imagine sleeping in a hotel entirely made out of ice"; it is now "sleeping in a hotel entirely made out of ice". The Ice Hotel team is thrilled and especially ready to welcome you. We have put together a special guide that will inform you on all the particulars of spending a night in this amazing snow "cathedral". Lets start with some practical advice before your arrival. Although there are no particular restrictions during the day we recommend that you spend an active day, either by driving an extremely long trip ;) or by taking in as much winter air as you can. Both will increase your chances of getting a full night's rest in your cozy suite ;). Contrary to popular belief, consuming large quantities of alcohol will not help keep you warm. Drink moderately and enjoy yourself, Ice Hotel is after all a fun place where having a good time is a prerequisite to your stay ;). Lots of people have asked us if it's cold in the Ice Hotel, hey it's an Ice Hotel So dress warmly. The average temperature is just below the freezing point but you will sleep warmly tucked in the Arctic sleeping bag we provide you. Just remember before bedtime, to brush your teeth ;) and preferably wear un-derwear made of wool, polartec or polyproplene, but your regular pj's are still OK. The trick is not to wear to many layers as not to produce humidity primary cause of cold feet and runny noses. Also, don't forget your wool socks and cap to keep all your extremities warm. We just cant wait to have you over, we promise you are going to enjoy your time with us for the coolest night of life at the coolest place, Ice Hotel Quebec-Canada. See you then. For more information, please contact us at 1 877 505-0423 (Canada and US), 418 661-4522 (local) or on our website at www.icehotel-canada.com. Highlights of your stay · Guests are required to check in before 8:30 p.m. at the front desk in the lobby of the Manoir Montmorency. · For dinner guests, please check in for cocktail time. Our staff will inform you about your dinner arrangements. · Payment for the stay should be made at check-in. We accept VISA, Master Card, debit cards or cash payments. · At check-in our staff will inform you of procedures for the pre-bedtime meet-ing. · Pre-bedtime meeting for the overnight instructions is at 9:00 p.m. (rendez-vous in the hall of the Manoir Montmorency). · Private visit for our guests at 9:30 p.m. - Building the Ice Hotel. - Commented visit of Ice Hotel (art galleries, Absolut Ice Bar, cinema and our suites, etc.) · Bedtime is at your convenience. · Wake-up is between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m. · American Breakfast is served at the Manoir Montmorency until 9:00 a.m. Important Facts · Ice Hotel has no shower facilities. Guests can use the Manoir Montmorency washrooms to prepare for the night. · Portable and heated toilets have been installed inside Ice Hotel for overnight use. · Free parking is available at the Manoir Montmorency. · Your room is equipped with a complimentary cellular phone from Telesolutions so you can call friends and neighbors and share you experience. Long distance calls require a calling card. · Our staff will be on hand through the night for all your needs. · All our personnel are trained in First Aid in case of emergency. · No pets are allowed in Ice Hotel Quebec-Canada. Except in specific and authorized cases. Our address is: 2492 Avenue Royale Beauport (Quebec) Canada Our phone numbers are: 1 877 505-0423 toll free Canada & US 418 661-4522 local calls
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permalink #1738 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 24 Jan 01 20:16
permalink #1738 of 1905: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 24 Jan 01 20:16
I don't think the Panshins were ever on Genie. Cory Doctorow was, but that's a very different Cory. (The Panshins, Alexei and Cory, of course, have published a lot of sf criticism, some of it fairly controversial.) You have got to tell us how the ice stay goes.
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permalink #1739 of 1905: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Wed 24 Jan 01 20:24
permalink #1739 of 1905: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Wed 24 Jan 01 20:24
Michelle - I can never think of anything interesting to say. However, my brain has told me that since I am paying for a Well membership and only read this conference that I must post here occassionally so as to justify the money being spent. Glad to hear you have lost your stalker. I remember one memorable night drive where my best friend taught me how to lose someone tailing you. They were damn persistant though. :-) Brent - I know there are other Red Dwarf fans on here and your evil Santa Claus comment has caused me to remember the episode Backwards where everything is going, well, backwards. "Santa Claus - what a bastard! He's the big fat git who sneaks down chimneys and steals all the kid's favorite toys!" Len - good luck with the play, will someone be taping this prestigious event? madman - I must warn you, I get the feeling this copy might not be in very good shape. The seller said they should be shipping it within the next couple of days. Neil - So, do you have all of your provisions ready for the ice hotel? I wonder how many people will try to lick the walls... Jen, who quit her job today and is exceedingly proud of herself.
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permalink #1740 of 1905: Jinx (jinx) Wed 24 Jan 01 20:31
permalink #1740 of 1905: Jinx (jinx) Wed 24 Jan 01 20:31
Neil~ It sounds like a wonderful place to stay, although a little too cold for my blood, if you ever hear of a sand castle hotel, then let me know. Len~ Best wishes and break a leg with the play, I'm sure it will be wonderful. Odd question? Do you watch Malcom in the Middle? If you do you'll know why I ask. If not I'll explain later. Jen~ Congrats on the break from the job, starting anew is a wonderful. Jinx who has made her final plans for Dragon Con
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permalink #1741 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Thu 25 Jan 01 00:46
permalink #1741 of 1905: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Thu 25 Jan 01 00:46
Len - best of luck on the play. Let us all know how it goes (tho' I'm sure it will go wondermously). Neil - sounds like you'll be having an amazing little stay. If you *do* like the walls, make sure you don't get stuck ;-P Jen - I still haven't a clue what I was going to post. I started giggling to myself when I realized that I had forgotten - reminded myself of the line in 'Being An Experiment' and have had Neil reading "damlostit" pop into my brain every time I try and remember. And I only say the stalker is gone because he hasn't sent mail to my old address in over 6 months now (maybe he dropped by the house and realises I don't live there any more... *wishing desperately*). I once was in a car that ditched a police car (nearly had a heart attack when the driver hit the gas pedal instead of pulling over). -squeaks, who wonders how she will ever sleep with the mice madly squeaking at each other over their treats.
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permalink #1742 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek, humming Rasputina and thinking Iggy Pop should be Robin Goodfellow. (whispered) Thu 25 Jan 01 01:53
permalink #1742 of 1905: Sarah A. Rudek, humming Rasputina and thinking Iggy Pop should be Robin Goodfellow. (whispered) Thu 25 Jan 01 01:53
Neil- What a terrific letter. Sounds like babelfishdotcom got drunk with the thesaurus. Len- Wish I could see it. I seem to be inadvertantly collecting interpetations of that play all through my education. That'd be two live performances, four films (I've seen Titania disco'd, glinda'd, aggresive donkey sex'd and of course pfiffer'd) and three written accounts. Now all we need is the Residents' theme album to show up, and we'll be on our way. And I won't mention the scottish play if you don't. :) *phew for silly references*
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permalink #1743 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 25 Jan 01 05:24
permalink #1743 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 25 Jan 01 05:24
Thanks all for wishes on Midsummer. Things are going well. I spent the first week of rehearsal with my kids reading the play over and over-- now they're finally in a place where they "own" the language-- they feel as comfortable with it as with their own english, and I even catch them hurling "ill met" and "churl!" at each other in conversation. Neil, your observations regarding the animal-wildness of faerie played a critical role in how I directed and costumed the fairy characters. In the early weeks, I had each kid choose an animal to observe and "channel", affecting how they move onstage, how their character relates to others,how their character relates to their space onstage, etc. Oberon chose a wolf, Titania a lioness, Puck an otter, and the woods are full of cat-spirits, bear-spirits, fox-spirits, etc. My costume designer is fantastic-- I saw the designs for the first time yesterday and the kids are going to look great... half Brian Froud, half National Geographic nature photography with a touch of Charles Vess and a dash of Vogue. As long as they remember to allow the movement work they did to animate the costumes, they'll produce a magical effect. The humans are more mundanely dressed: Theseus has the Regis/Millionaire monochrome thing going, Lysander is a hippie, Demetrius is Abercrombie and Fitch (this is, after all, the North Shore of Long Island) Hermia wears "Juicy" and Helena is a punk. The Rude Mechanicals wear bowling shirts, work pants and boots. Keeping in mind that these are 11-13 year olds, I wanted to keep the motivations in the play fairly simple-- everyone wants to get and keep love: the lovers want each other, Bottom wants the love of the audience, Theseus wants to win Hippolyta's love, Puck wants Oberon's love (in a king-to-jester sense) and Oberon and Titania are dying to get back together, though they're too proud to admit it. Even Egeus wants Hermia's love (in our performance, Egeus is Hermia's mom-- Egea), which is why she's so outraged that Hermia is rejecting the suitor chosen for her. I edited the play down considerably-- the performance will last about 80 minutes-- and made sure that the acting is as physical as possible. Spent a great deal of time making sure that the kids were comfortable touching each other (in legal ways,) and this has resulted in some enjoyably unrestrained physical comedy-- lots of tussling, hanging on to legs, etc. In one great moment, Hermia throws herself, claws outstretched ("like Wolverine," I told her,)at Helena, and is caught mid-air by Lysander and Demetrius. all in all, for my first Shakespeare, things seem to be ok.
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permalink #1744 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 25 Jan 01 05:27
permalink #1744 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 25 Jan 01 05:27
Neil-- Thanks for posting the letter-- it's hysterical. Did you see the piece on CBS Sunday Morning about the Ice Hotel? I have this image in my head of towels in your room made of some sort of spun ice-- as flexible as cloth if used in the ice hotel, but a puddle of water if smuggled out in a suitcase. Of course the Absolut bar sounds amazing.
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permalink #1745 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 25 Jan 01 05:28
permalink #1745 of 1905: Len (theboojum) Thu 25 Jan 01 05:28
Jinx-- what did they do on Malcolm?
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permalink #1746 of 1905: Jinx (jinx) Thu 25 Jan 01 09:28
permalink #1746 of 1905: Jinx (jinx) Thu 25 Jan 01 09:28
Len~ Sent via e-mail so not to annoy others who may not have the odd tv bent that I do. Jinx who has found reruns of the latest incarnation of Fantasy Island
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permalink #1747 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 25 Jan 01 12:42
permalink #1747 of 1905: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 25 Jan 01 12:42
Oooh! Malcolm McDowell, who will live in my heart forever as Alex.
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permalink #1748 of 1905: Daniel Lofton (daniellofton) Thu 25 Jan 01 14:21
permalink #1748 of 1905: Daniel Lofton (daniellofton) Thu 25 Jan 01 14:21
Checked out the ice castle web page. Pretty interesting pics they have up there. Especially the one with the two ice-arm chairs in front of the ice-fireplace. Ice-fireplace? Even sounds bizarre. Almost seems like something that belongs in Vegas. A bit too hot there or I suppose it would be. Neil -- Was wondering if you've ever given any thought to teaching, or maybe even a writing workshop. Or even a book on the process or whatnot. Something like Stephen King's ON WRITING. Just curious as I like to see people doing what they do well, or hearing them talk about it. Daniel
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permalink #1749 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 26 Jan 01 07:01
permalink #1749 of 1905: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 26 Jan 01 07:01
I just got an e-mail from the UK telling me Smoke and Mirrors has been nominated for a MacMillan Silver PEN award: ..................... MACMILLAN and JAMES STERN SILVER PEN AWARDS Annual Administered by: English Centre of International PEN Two awards are made: the Macmillan Silver PEN Award for an outstanding collection of short stories; and the Stern Silver PEN Award for Non-fiction. For both awards the books must be written in the English language by a living author of British nationality or long-term residence, and have been first published in the UK in the calendar year preceding the year in which the awards are presented. The winners are chosen from nominations made by the Vice Presidents and members of the PEN Executive Committee only - entries are not required. Prize: £500 and a Dupont pen (short stories); £1,000 and a Dupont pen (non-fiction) ............... I'm thrilled -- I've got shelves full of nice genre awards, but it's so cool when a genre book gets nominated for a mainstream award. Whether I get it or not isn't even the point. There. Makes happy author noises. ............ martha, Jen, I shall certainly report back on the ice hotel experience. I may even go and dig out my battered old Atari portfolio to type on. Len -- sounds great. And I'm thrilled with what you're doing with the lovers. In my experience they make or break a Dream. (Key test-- does "I am amazed and know not what to say?" get a laugh or not.) Didn't see the CBS piece no. I really don't watch enough TV. Daniel -- every year or so I go and give talks at Universities, and normally someone asks if I have any desire to teach. it might be fun for a year. No real desire to write a book: I feel it would be rather cheeky. Steve had earned the right to write ON WRITING. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm doing on a sentence by sentence basis. I loved On Writing, by the way, especially the stuff about editing and tightning (and I did a ----ly spellcheck to inspect and decide the status of every adverb). But I wished, given the Amy Tan quote int he introduction, that he had talked more about the language.
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permalink #1750 of 1905: Emily Whetstone Hey (jizou-sama) Fri 26 Jan 01 10:36
permalink #1750 of 1905: Emily Whetstone Hey (jizou-sama) Fri 26 Jan 01 10:36
Congratulations on the nomination, Neil! Mononokehime was on Japanese television tonight.... I watched the decapitation of the forest god before being overruled and ended up watching Brassed Off instead. To be honest, I understand Japanese a little more clearly than some variants of English English. I ended up reading the Japanese subtitles, drunk as I am. Amazing, how much difference two hundred years and an ocean can make. :) Has anyone heard of Bill Bryson? He wrote "Mother Tongue" and "Made In America" and "Notes from a Small Island", among others...
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