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From: "Jondy, Muna (JUS)"
To: "''" <>
Subject: Odd......
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:49:27 -0600

Hi.  I was just wondering - if you say that Islam has been the most  harsh about homosexuality, why are you a Muslim?  Wouldn't it make more sense if you just left Islam?

I'm Muslim & believe in Islam, but am not a gay basher.  I do, however, believe homosexuality is an act that is prohibited in Islam.  This, along with fornication, adultery, drinking alcohol, etc.  So if you decide that you want to indulge in something that is prohibited, that's your decision to make.  You can't expect the faith to change to accomodate your personal desires.  I'm sure it would've been easier for me to have pre-marital relations, not have to pray, etc.  But that's not the point of being Muslim. You can still be Muslim, but you certainly can't expect us  to open our arms to people who are openly and proudly disobeying God's commands.....

Confused In Canada

Yes, you are 'confused in Canada' if you think being gay is the same as "openly and proudly disobeying God's commands" -- I thought it was a sexual preference, not sexual activity, but perhaps you know something I don't. - Sulayman X

From:  "SABERA ALI" <>
To:  <>
Subject: ISLAM
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:50:45 -0000


Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:32:59 -0400
Subject: Hi


I'm just writing you to l;et you know that i found your site while looking for queer moslem resources for my website, and have added a link at

If you would like to link back to me - either to my main page at or my more political and queer page at - then that would be nice. But you don't have to, i'll continue linking to you one way or another.
Good luck with your endeavours!

From: "Pakistan63" <>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:04:48 -0600
Organization: Microsoft Corporation



From: "Pakistan63" <>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:04:48 -0600
Organization: Microsoft Corporation



From: "Pakistan63" <>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:59:33 -0600
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

homosexuality is the work of satan.  No homosexual can be a Muslim.  The satan is trying to destroy Islam indirectly by things like this Queen Jihad.


From: "Mel Ayu" <>
Subject: Being a gay muslim in Malaysia
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 10:03:57 MYT


I am one of the writers of a lifestyle e-zine;

My editor/owner of the e-zine site discovered your site and informed me,  that perhaps I could write in to you and share with you and all readers of  your site, of an article that I have written in the e-zine.

My article's link is;

Do let me know how I could contribute a short message to link this
article to your site.  Thank you.

Lots of love,

From: "Juhlke" <>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:27:33 -0800

All muslims queer or not are primitive fucking losers. You will all be destroyed by superior intellects and might. Long live Israel as slayers of muslims. Burn in hell with your bullshit worship.

Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:15:51 +0530
From: Peter <>
Organization: Citicorp
Subject: on homosexuality

Mr. Sulaiman...

This is regarding the comments u have made about muslims being foul mouthed ,wth hatred filled in their hearts,

It's true that muslims r uncomfortable on sex related topics in public and anything that is unnatural.

I am not cursing u or trying to humilate u for u r a gay. Whatever may the reason be for ur being a gay, God knows.

From ur comments it seems that u have studied islam quite deeply,then u must have also noted one thing that Islam doesn't permits Premarital sex. Premarital Sex is an Unforgivable offence.

So i understand that u will have to first marry the person u love to have any sort of sexual relationship with him/her. And i dont know that marriage between same sexes is allowed or not in islam.

And most people think that it is not, so it is natural that people think that what ur doing is wrong.

Anyway what i would suggest u is that u get some more info. on this matter frm Ulemas or other qualified persons.

Hope u find out what ur looking for


For a moment there, I thought you might be halfway intelligent, but you don't seem to know the difference between homosexuality and homosexual activity -- they are two different things. I'm not asking for Islam's permission to have anal intercourse with men; I am asking that Islam recognise and be aware of the fact that some of us have homosexual identities.


From: "Neslihan Sari" <>
Subject: STRAIGHT muslim on the STRAIGHT Path :o)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:25:46 GMT


Hi Mr. X (Malcom X impersonator? hehe)

I read through some of the pages of your site and personally, I felt
that  there was an underlying catch to all this. In one of your 'guestbook'  messages, a person named Keysar sent an article, I think you should read that carefully. I think they expressed the  unlawfulness of sodomy quite well. Esp. sura 26:165-166. Also, didn't Allah Ta'ala say "do not enter from the anal"? He did, so what do 'gays' do?:) (sorry that sounds kinda disgusting for the public) That is probably the SIMPLEST of examples. In your personal 'history' page you said you had a partner, are you in any  way,  MARRIED to this guy? I suppose not. So you're doing adultery :o) That's another sin.

You said you gave shahada in a mosque, does anybody in that mosque know you're a homosexual? I heard there is a 'gay mosque' thingy in the USA so I  guess, if you're a member of that place they wouldn't say anything... but HEY the Government DOES support that doesn't it?:o)

Anyhows, scholars and many knowledgable people have said it is forbidden. You said the prophet did not say it. Why was Prophet Lut aleyhisselam trying to change the sodomy of his town then? Prophet Lut also brought religion of Islam... we also believe in him as we do with noah, Moses, Jesus, Abraham etc. How could you reject one hadith or one ayah of Qur'an? You say 'you don't think that is true', but who are YOU to judge that? Sincey ou claim taht us muslims haven't got the right to judge you on being gay? We STRAIGHT muslims may be suffering from homophobia, but that is only 'natural' :o)

But you know, homosexuality is also a disease. It's a mental problem. It can be desensitized ya know. If you still ignore the facts through the Qur'an and sahih hadiths, then you are surely a kafir. Truth always lies out plain and simple, but you probably just smile as these messages come through... As for the Guestbook  messages that say "hi I need help my (samesex) friend and I.. etc, they just sound silly. Sounds too fake that anybody

would really say that. I think either those people who pasted those 'gay sites' or yourself wrote those messages.

cyaz! - And remember,

I see, one more Muslim who doesn't know the difference between homosexuality and sexual activity. Just remember being straight is no safeguard against stupidity. - Sulayman X


Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 04:02:08 +0000 (GMT)
From: "'Aabid 786" <>
Subject: Sincerity

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Assalaamu "alaykum,

A"oodhu billaahi min ash-Shaytaan ir-rajeem.

The homophobic view of many muslims expressed on your site is most distressing; they seems to be big on rules concerning how homosexual acts are haraam (with which I concur), but uninformed about rules concerning defamation of fellow muslims. There is no doubt some bigotry at play here.

After all, there are much more worrying problems such as people who think that Elijah Mohamed or Baha'ullah were prophets, or that the Prophet (saw) was not a human being; yet people who believe these things do not seem to be the targets of such hatred. This site gives Shaytaan the ability to whisper to people on both sides of the issue, and this leads me to question the sincerity of your  maintaining this site. You may genuinely not be convinced by the evidence that there is no halaal way to practise homosexuality, but if this website has any purpose other than providing Jerry-Springer-esque controversy, then I suggest that the least you could do is not disgrace the ummah by publishing all the hate-mail you receive.

Please stop letting them drag you down to their level.



P.S. You all recite Al-Faatihah more than a dozen times a day,  reflect upon tafseer about "ghayri l-maghd.oobi "alayhim wa laa d.-d.aaleen"


Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:03:57 EST
Subject: our suffering

Hello there!

I don't know where to begin.  I have so many thoughts I'd like to express about these two issues -- homosexuality and religion.  I don't exactly consider myself a good writer and I know I'm not talented when it comes to engaging in debates.  Any ideas that I have usually keep rushing through my head in all directions and I have a hard time organizing them.  But after having  read some of the (rather mediocre) emails you've received I felt that maybe my writing isn't too bad after all.   So here comes my two cents' worth:

I'm a unicorn.  That's right:  I don't exist.  I am a homosexual struggling to believe in your religion.  A lot of irate followers I have come across and a lot of those who write to you obviously feel that you cannot embrace this religion if you're a homosexual.  I don't really know what to say to them.

People can be very obstinate sometimes when it comes to what they believe to be the truth.  It's been my experience that it's extremely tough to get a  person to reconsider their stance on what constitutes truth and morality.

I am not writing this message to try and change the minds of those heterosexuals who have no time for the likes of us.  Rather, I'm addressing you, myself and those who share our suffering.

My story is not really very unique.  I was raised in a religious family living in a religious society.  I have known since around the age of 5 that I was a homosexual.  Of course, I had no name for it initially.  I just knew I was emotionally (and eventually, sexually) attracted to men rather than women and that that was not the norm.  I have always been disturbed by this orientation of mine.  As a teenager, I wanted to change but didn't know how.

I just prayed a lot and asked God to change me.  OK, brace yourself for a surprise now:  I didn't change.  So around the age of 18 or 19, I said to myself: screw it, this isn't working!  I became an atheist for a while for no other reason than the fact that I felt unwelcome in religion.

Slowly though I realized that just because my religion is tough, just because  it seems to be harsh on me and others who suffer like me, that doesn't mean that it's not the truth.  Then it dawned on me that all too often people tend to feel that what they like must be good/true and what they dislike must be evil/false.  I didn't exactly rush back to religion with open arms then.  However, I basically decided to 'get real' and to start
objectively studying religion vs. atheism.  I decided to stop feeling sorry  for myself all the time because of my affliction.  I still feel I have the  right to feel sorry for myself -- ours is a tough life even though  heterosexuals might not fully realize it.  However, I no longer want self-pity to guide me through life.  I no longer consider my problem to be the most important in the world.  There are others who suffer a lot more than I do.  I now feel that in my search for the truth I should look at the big picture and  not get too engrossed in one problem whether it's mine or someone else's.

I strongly believe now that if I let myself simply look for what feels good in life and label it as the truth I would be deceiving myself and, possibly, misleading others along the way.  I'm not implying that we should reject all that which feels good.  I'm just trying to say that I believe we should  exercise some caution.  Another thing I believe in is that what might feel harsh or repulsive at first might in fact be good for us.  At this point let me stress that I'm not a glutton for self punishment.  I don't go around looking for what feels good only to discard it and embrace what is harsh or feels bad.  All I'm trying to say is that we should be objective.

I'm sure you got the message by now.

The above was the main bulk of what I wanted to say to you and to others who share our situation.  I firmly believe that we should all think for ourselves but I wanted to share with you what I consider a good way of reasoning.  I hope you don't feel I'm imposing on you, because that's the last thing I want to do, trust me!

Now, away from the abstract, here are a couple of specific points I wanted to mention about the issues of homosexuality and religion:

Apparently popular religions don't really condemn homosexuals as people. They just prohibit homosexual sex acts like oral sex and anal intercourse.

That makes them tough for a lot of homosexuals.  But does it make them evil/false?

Homosexuality is not necessarily genetic.  No one knows for sure.  Some people insist that it's a choice (something I personally find rather hard to believe).  Others insist that it's 100% biological.  Neither group really has the backing of science.  You seem to belong to the second group.  There have been a few studies that tried to show that it's
genetically determined.  Some of them were inconclusive while others were refuted by other scientists.  It is in fact not true that the  scientific community has accepted the genetic theory.  At this point it's just that: a theory.  I encourage those who are interested to visit the following site:  Let me warn you: it's a site that contains a lot of opinions which you might dislike.  Please try to look at it objectively though and to give others a chance to express their understanding of how things are.  They may be right.  That is not a hate site.  It is not a pro-gay site either.  It's a site that expresses the views of a small group of psychologists who don't quite go along with either one of the two main streams (the pro-gay and the hate-mongers).

Thank you for bearing with me.  I hope you will be willing to post this message and thereby give me a chance to engage in this discussion and express my views.  I would like my message to be anonymous.

I wish you and the rest of us a peaceful and happy life followed by a joyous afterlife.  That is, if there is indeed such a thing as an afterlife. Who knows!



From: "Sarah Muhammad" <>
Subject: Post message
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:04:29 GMT

Dear Brother Sulayman:
Assalamu Alaykum

I am a lesbian Muslim woman, originally from Egypt and residing currently in  the United States. I have stumbled across your site lately and am very delighted to read the articles and to know about your  interest. I think it is disgusting that some of those who consider themselves to be Muslim use such an offensive language. Islam is about peace, even if you differ with  somebody.

I have been gay for a long time; however, I came out only last year. I am  interested to correpond  via email with lesbian Arab women from the States  or overseas. Please post my letter and email address.

I do thank you once again for your courage and wisdom and wish you the best  of luck.


Sarah Muhammad


Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:38:10 +0000
From: Ibrahim Ismail <>
Subject: advice

This is a message from DR. Rezaul Siddique Rana from SCCS, I was browsing throgh the net and I happen to come across your sick and definately not Islamic website. How on Earth can you be a gay, faget, pufta, hypocrite and call your self a muslim.  Naudhubillah, as far as I know you sick bumlickers deserve to die and I tell you something if I was allowed to, I would cut your throat, snap your spine rip your body and give your burnt flesh for the dogs to eat. Even a dog will live its life accordingly to ALLah (SWT) law, You have a mind and still you decide to shag men. I want you to send another mail to the above address and boy am I looking forward to chopping you up you sick gay bastard. LOVE PEACE EMPATHY


Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:49:10 EST
Subject: Your gay muslim brother.

Hi Sulayman,

How are you brother? I am a Muslim Arab and gay and I have just finished  reading your confession page. I have to say that I admire your thoughts and  ideas. I fully understand your confusion about being gay and Muslim at the  same time. I suffer from the same problem myself. However, there are some  points in this issue where I think you did not get well, not to blame you as a non-Arabic speaking Muslim. I believe Islam is a fully integrated religion,  and as homosexuals, we do have a place in Islam. This is something that most  Muslims do not realize for the simple reason that they have just been ignoring the whole issue and unwilling to discuss. I think I have some answers for you that will make you feel a lot better regarding this issue. I am a well-religiously-educated Muslim, and I think I have some proofs from Quran itself on how we have our place in Islam. This might sound surprising,  but as I said before, this never came up as no one is willing to discuss it.

I would like to chat you live on line sometimes.  I will be glad if you suggest some ways to do ICQ or AOL instant messenger which I have.

Looking forward to hearing from you very soon.. Thanks brother and bye for  now!


Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:53:45 EST
Subject:  greetings

SAla mu alai kum Sulayman

I read your confession by curiosites, I am moslem like you. I pray for you that the Almighty god who bring in the true religion Islam,  help to become a heterosexual man with wife and happily with your son. The efforts you made to go throught all thoses difficulties in your life can  help to renounce to your life style. If all men were gay or lesbians we gonna be like the dinausores , disapeared  from the planet, of course you gonna tell me you have a son but how? by interacting with women, it is just common sense for me gay and lesbian is a  life style by confusedpeople who have no directions in their life,  preoccupted only by sexual pleasures . There is no doubt in my mind Islam condamn Homosexuality and as long you are homosexual you are acting against the principle of Islam. May Allah keeps illuminate your life and bring out that crazy and foolishness  word of homosexuality.


From: "Abu Usama" <>
Subject: Homosexuality
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:27:40 -0000

Can I ask what you think qualifies a person to be a muslim ?

How about compassion and respect for human rights? - Sulayman X


From: "Abu Usama" <>
Subject: Homosexuality
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:21:04 -0000

You mention as your proof that where does it say in the Qur'an that homosexuality is  wrong but you must remeber that in the deen, everything is haram unless you have proof to make it halal, therefore, your argument is not proof for homosexuality, rather, it is proof against it as you acknowledge the fact that it does not say homosexuality is correct in the Qur'an.

Please reply

If "everything is haram unless you have proof to make it halal", then I think we should get rid of airplanes, cell phones, pagers, most modern day medicene, the Internet, trains, cars, karaoke, fax machines, machine guns, radios and television, etc, etc, etc, since none of these are approved of in the Qur'an or the Sunnah. - Sulayman X

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:47:42 -0800
From: charles Ford <>
Subject: Create your own?

The way you go about chooseing the right church,savior,leader what ever you want to call him/her, is:easy to understand, you DO NOT want to know the truth, or what is right, or what leader you will follow, You first decide what YOU want, and do not think is wrong,then find somone or some faith thats suits your feelings.Your a queer, and refuse to accept that this is  immoral,repugnant, perverted, so you find anything that doesn't share that view and say WOW this the real  truth.Catholic,Jews,Christians, and even Islam is wrong, why? because it doesn't agree with you...I like the throwing off towers the best, but after thinking of the way God is, I feel repent, is the best

Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 20:39:36 -0800 (PST)
From: shadli al-bdusalam <>
Subject: you should read the quran carefully!!!

let me ask you this, why did ALLAH create men and women? what are their tasks in this life? why is this life that we live in a test?

Oh, let me guess: so we could all be breeders and make babies! - Sulayman X

i popped into your article by accident; and to tell you the truth i was shocked!! yes  islam welcomes all, islam is the one religion that does not include discrimination and segregation. but when you say that it accepts homosexuals, then my friend your  mistaken. let me tell you why. do you know the story of  loot? he was a prophet in a town, somewhere in Jordan. the act of gays and lesbians emerged into this town, loot (may peace be upon him), asked them to stop it, and ask for forgiveness from  ALLAH. but instead they abused him and continued in their gayness. ALLAH  angered, turned the city upside down, they were all banished. (this story was not  made up, but it's recited in the Quran in a whole chapter). now you say that you are a good muslim, if you really are then look it up in the  Quran and stop being ignorant for your on good. may you change your ways, or change your religion. let me know your answer to this matter, and what poor excuse you have up your sleeves.

Islam does not include discrimination, but faggots are not wanted -- I see. If that's not discrimination, what do you call it? - Sulayman X

From: "Niaz Ali Khan" <>
Subject: repent !!!
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 16:35:55 -0000

.. dont twist Islam, the Koran and hadith to corroborate your satanic behaviour.. Allah has created the religion of Islam and has laid down the laws of doos and donts clearly in the Koran and the Prophet has followed it to perfection. The Koran clearly mentions that homosexuality is forbidden by Allah and the Prophet has said to kill anyone caught in the act both the passive and the active partners. The story of the people of Lut repeated a number of times throught out the Koran only goes on to tell how big a sin Homosexualiy is. Islam is Allahs religion and it is He who has set the laws, so dont play with it.  If you are a homosexual, it would be better if you accept your sin and pray to Allah to change you. And if you indeed pray to Allah to change your satanic ways and seek forgiveness, Allah out out His bounty will forgive you. But if you twist Allahs revelation to justify your satanic behavior and invite others to do the same evil, you would have only yourself to blame when a hot burning rod is thrust into your mouth in Hell. You can go ahead and call yourselves a homosexual muslim but it is Allah who decides who is a muslim. Muslim means "a person who submits to Allahs will". You are not only going against His will but actively inviting other people to do so.  Repent before its too late....

Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 07:53:07 +0200
From: Mohamed Elfatih <>
Subject: Question...

Concerning your site..

How could you be a Muslim and Gay at the same time?  It' like saying am a Christian, but I dont believe in Jesus!!

If you are a true Muslim, then you wouldn't behave like a queer even if you are  siologically so(which I dont believe), for the simple reason that Islam prohibited it!  Islam is a whole package that you can't seperate into peices. If you beleive in God, then you would at least stay from the Major sins, which includes homesexuality; otherwise, enjoy it, and dont claim to be a Muslim!

Mohamed Elfatih....

The Praised Conqueror........

From: "Frank Bille" <>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:07:18 -0000

Salam Suleyman!

I saw your webpage recently and I found it very interesting, and I just wanted to drop you a line to encourage you and not be despaired by people's intolerance.

I wish you all the best

Frank, London

From:  | Block address
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:53:13 EST
Subject: Knightmare

You are sick, you should be executed, you cannot put such materials on the  internet and if I KNOW I WOULD HAVE THE PLEASURE OF EXECUTING YOU. I CAN FORGIVE YOU IF YOU SEEK PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP IMMEDIATELY MAY ALLAH PUT YOU ON HELL.




Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:08:21 EST
Subject: Understanding The Urge

I understand your homosexual tendencies. It is a part of the curse of Aadam  and Iblees. When Allah ta aala exiled them to the Earth He fused them: man,  woman, and jinn into one being. As a result the "hu-man being" has struggled  against  himself/herself, with different personalities surfacing at different  times to dominate (Sigmound Freud almost had it). But the rule is not to  "give in" or surrender to the homosexual tendencies, but fight them. That is the real meaning to the inner jihad. Every man and woman will feel these  urges sometimes in his/her life, and each of us must not give in but  struggle. The struggle goes on for life. If the man allows the woman in him to dominate, or the woman allows the man in her to dominate, or the man and woman allows the jinn in them to dominate ... whosoever does so is lost (unless they repent before death and start the struggle again). The  successful human being is one who develops enough strength to bring BALANCE to the 3 aspects. This is done ONLY through learning to surrender to  Allah, azza wa jalla, as He has instructed in the revelation sent down to us.

Solution: follow the Siraatul-Mustaqeem found in Al-Qur'aanul-Kareem ONLY!!  Hadiyth is mix with falsehood and truth so they will only mislead and  confuse. Shaitaan has been permitted to corrupt everything but Qur'aan.

From:  "A Misa" <>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:31:08 GMT

assalam alaikum,

i was looking on your gay site, particularly because this is a gay awareness week in my college, and they're going to have a panel viewing homosexuality  from religion. I myself am not gay, but i have an acquintance who is,and she will be talking about gay in Islam. Me and my friend don't want her to do that, so we feel obligated to come and see how she justify herself being a muslim gay.

I don't think that it is right to be gay, and there is nothing in the Quran that says so, Allah SWT clearly punished Lut's people for theri  homosexuality. That is what i think, based on the Quran.

However, i don't think you have choice. Right, Allah makes you what you are now. As having to know sufism and mysticism, you must feel much more better.  I'm amazed by your celibate life. For me, it seems you have no problem anymore. What do you want more if you're close to Him already?

I'm interested in talking you more. So if you're not busy or willing to drop a line, i'm kinda curious to know more about u.


Since you're in school, I'll give you some advice: people who are always expressing what they think are usually wrong; keep your mouth shut; find out the facts before you speak; ask questions. - Sulayman X

From: "Josef Antoine Dubaere" <>
 To: <>
Subject:  Gay people
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:50:55 +0100

Dear friend and brother, as-salam-aleikum.

I was staunt by reading some articles. A am a Christian ans practise my religion every day. I think that these so-called Muslims who are against homosexual or lesbian Muslims have their own personal sexual problem. As I worked many times in various prisons where a lot of Muslims were "admitted" I saw so many things of this kind. I know also that homosexuality is not the iedeal way of life, but whenever these  people can not be "normal?"...somewhere the Creator of the world allowed it. Everybody has right on his sexuality; why not those people who cannot be "normal". I met a lot of European and Muslim gay people who are extremely good people. Many times they feel lonely... they came to me, a Christian, to talk about their problems. I never dared "judge" them... Who am I? Moreover God is the real Judge and nobody else. A lot of (other) sins are extremely more sin such as hathred, violence, judgment of others.... May God bless all of you. You are his children and God loves you very much. B-slama.

From:  | Block address
Date:  Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:59:12 EST
Subject: Gay muslim male from Mauritania

I am an immigration attorney from Louisville, KY.  I have a client who is a  gay male muslim from Mauritania who is filing for political asylum based on  his sexual preference.  I would appreciate any information on the punishment  that such an individual may be subject to in either Mauritania or in any West  African country.  If at all possible could you tell me the name of an  individual I can use as an expert witness in this case.  I need the information as soon as possible since we have a hearing before an asylum  officer on November 30, 1999

Thanking you in advance,

Ron Russell

Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:38:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Maresa Nirwan <>  | Block address
Subject: My opinion about Gay and Lesbian.

Assalamu 'Alaikum

I don't know where to start .. I think I'll start of what I think of gay before, and after. I'm an Indonesian.

Before, I think that in Al-Qur'an Allah says something like : And we created animals in pair, humans in pair, etc etc .. I'm not sure which surrah and what verse.

Based on that, I believe that Allah, being the all mighty, the most knowledgefull, the most of everything that's good, CAN NOT make a mistake and create man or woman gay or lesbian. I just don't think Allah is capable of crating that mistake.

Then one day I was attending Indonesian Islamic Class over in San Francisco, the topic was about gay and lesbian. The Ustadz says that gay and lesbian exists. He also argues my base 'Allah can't make that mistake'. He said 'Allah did intentionally give that particular person a test. A very big test. A test that he/she can never enjoy sexual relationship the whole his/her life.

I was stunned!!!! But then I accepted his reasoning. and also he added, if a man/woman was born gay/lesbian, tehn he/she fight that temtation, and doesn't have sex with one that's allowed by Islamic rules (husband/wife) then he'd won the biggest test Allah will ever give to a man. from here when I say gay, i also meant lesbian.

I added .. I think if a gay man live the life without excercising the sexual drive he has towards other man, then I believe Allah will reward him with Heaven.

Forthermore, I don't think thata muslim gay is automatically a non-muslim. Except, when he actually does have sex with his own kind.

I hope you understand my point here, and hope you can summarize this letter in your site. Forgive me if I said wrong things. Also forgive me if you already have some refference simmilar to my opinion at your site. I didn't read your whole page, and was really eager to write this email.

Again, please forgive me if I said words that you mind.


From: "mythed" <>
Date:  Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:50:25 -0800

hi guy,

ran across your website; trust you haven't been killed by those you choose to claim as your own.

you know, dude, there is a Big difference between religion and spirituality. You don't need to 'validate' yourself with dogma, whatever it's name.

be free!


I am free, but many are not. Why should I abandon them and think only of myself? - Sulayman X

Date:  Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:45:17 -0800 (PST)
From: bahaal bahaal <>
Subject:  think again.

Mr. Solayman,

I accidentally came across your web site while studying Islam. Congradulation to you for finding
Islam as your salvation, but you must understand homosexuality has no room in Islam(.) PRIOD...

As a good muslim you should correct your ways of living.

I am a strong muslim of Middle Eastern Dissent I was born a muslim and lived as a muslim everyday of my
life and believe me, if there was anything about homos in Islam it wouldn't be positive.

You stated in your "Confession" you chose to keep your sexuality, well, quit fooling yourself, that is almost like saying "I'm a christian but I don't believe Jesus is the son of God and the only way to heaven is
through him", does this make any sense to you?


think again and start over.


Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:48:16 -0500
From:  | Block address
Organization: Rutgers University

Assalam u Alaikum

I believe that you have the right to your own belief. I also believe that your being gay does not hamper the "shahada" and that you will eventually go to "jannat" but you will definitely make a stop over at jahannam ..... but then again that is my own interpretation.... Allah knows best!

Yasser Hamdani

PS Yes I am a homophobe .... and I believe that it is Islamic to be one!

Yes, well try telling that to your pals there at Rutgers U. Of course you wouldn't, since it's easier to hate people anonymously. - Sulayman X

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:47:42 -0800
From: charles Ford <>
Subject: Create your own?

The way you go about chooseing the right church,savior,leader what ever you want to call him/her, is:easy to understand, you DO NOT want to know the truth, or what is right, or what leader you will follow, You first decide what YOU want, and do not think is wrong,then find somone or some faith thats suits your feelings.Your a queer, and refuse to accept that this is immoral,repugnant, perverted, so you find anything that doesn't share that view and say WOW this the real truth.Catholic,Jews,Christians, and even Islam is wrong, why? because it doesn't agree with you...I like the throwing off towers the best, but after thinking of the way God is, I feel repent, is the best