Pride Of Cucamonga w: Petersen m: Lesh AGDL: http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/pride.html LASF: http://www.whitegum.com/songfile/PRIDECUC.HTM
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permalink #1 of 28: Alex Allan (alexallan) Mon 8 Sep 03 20:55
permalink #1 of 28: Alex Allan (alexallan) Mon 8 Sep 03 20:55
Pride Of Cucamonga Lyrics: Bobby Petersen Music: Phil Lesh Copyright Ice Nine Publishing; used by permission. Out on the edge of the empty highway Howling at the blood on the moon Big diesel Mack rolling down my way Can't hit that border too soon Running hard out of Muskrat Flats It was sixty days or double life Hail at my back like a shotgun blast High wind chimes in the night Oh, oh, pride of Cucamonga Oh, oh, bitter olives in the sun Oh, oh, I had me some loving And I done some time Since I came down from Oregon There's a lesson or two I've learned By standing in the road alone Standing watching the fires burn The northern sky it stinks with greed You can smell it for miles around Good old boys in the Greystone Hotel Sitting doing that git-on-down Oh, oh, pride of Cucamonga Oh, oh, silver apples in the sun Oh, oh, I had me some loving And I done some time I see your silver shining town But I know I can't go there Your streets run deep with poisoned wine Your doorways crawl with fear So I think I'll drift for old where it's at Where the weed grows green and fine And wrap myself around a bush Of that bright whoa, oh, Oaxaca vine Yes it's me, I'm the pride of Cucamonga I can see golden forests in the sun Oh, oh, I had me some loving And I done some time And I done some time And I done some time
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permalink #2 of 28: Tim Lynch (masonskids) Fri 12 Oct 12 18:14
permalink #2 of 28: Tim Lynch (masonskids) Fri 12 Oct 12 18:14
Does anyone have a pointer for an online copy of the original Pride of Cucamonga poem written by Robert Peterson?
A reader named George says: Tim, His writings and paper are supposedly held at University of California Santa Cruz <http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/kt1199q2gs/> On their website (the above link) they state nothing of his is online. But fwiw there is this discussion about the song on the Univ of California Santa Cruz website): <http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/pride.html>
Some confusion here due to the existence of a poet named Robert Peterson (note the "o" in the last name), who is not the same as the lyricist Robert Petersen. Tim--not sure what you mean by "the original Pride of Cucamonga poem." What have you heard about?
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permalink #5 of 28: Tim Lynch (masonskids) Mon 15 Oct 12 13:05
permalink #5 of 28: Tim Lynch (masonskids) Mon 15 Oct 12 13:05
I visited the Archive this past weekend and noticed they had a typewritten copy of Pride of Cucamonga on display which had different verses than the song. I wasn't sure if it was written as a poem or as the original lyrics pre-edit.
Well, that is wonderful to hear! I'll have to get on Nick's case to send me a transcript.
Here are the lyrics I was talking about above... http://picpaste.com/pics/Pride-3vLmLU7F.1354215354.jpg
Wow! Thanks for that. Probably worth transcribing....one of these days.
Talk to <xian>. If memory serves, he transcribed them some years ago, though I could be wrong about that.
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permalink #10 of 28: Christian Crumlish (xian) Sat 8 Dec 12 21:05
permalink #10 of 28: Christian Crumlish (xian) Sat 8 Dec 12 21:05
Nah, I attempted to transcribe the one and only performance of "Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues," for which Trist tells me no typescript exists in the Ice Nine files.
Yes, and thank you for your heroic efforts on that one, Christian!
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permalink #12 of 28: Christian Crumlish (xian) Tue 25 Dec 12 12:39
permalink #12 of 28: Christian Crumlish (xian) Tue 25 Dec 12 12:39
the problem is they only sang it once, so there's nothing to cross-check. can't tell verbal slips from intentional weirdness, etc.
Right. And the lyrics went through the laundry in someone's back pocket... Oh well!
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permalink #14 of 28: Alex Allan (alexallan) Tue 22 Sep 15 02:01
permalink #14 of 28: Alex Allan (alexallan) Tue 22 Sep 15 02:01
The typescript mentioned above is included in Nicholas Meriwether's essay "Shadow Boxing The Apocalypse: An Alternate History of the Grateful Dead", included with the "30 Trips Around The Sun" box set. Here's a transcript: Standing on the edge of a big empty highway Lookin' at the blood on the moon Big diesel Mack comes toolin' down my way Can't get to that border too soon Since I came down from Oregon There's some lessons I have learned Just standing out there on 101 And watch the fires burn Running hard and fast out of Klamath Falls Sixty days or double life Hail at my back like a shotgun blast Wind like a cold, cold knife O Pride of Cucamonga Bitter olives in the sun Had me some lovin; and I done some time on Highway 101 Up in Eureka the sky's full of greed You can smell it for miles around For a long lost good old boy down on E Street It's sure's a hard go-round Down in Salinas the Strawberry King Serves Pie-On-The-Sky for the lame and wounded only Brothers on the yard in cold blue clothes know Soledad means lonely I copped Some spare change in Union Square And heading for the Golden Gate But i got lost drinking tokay wine in someplace Called the Haight O Pride of Cucamonga Bitter olives in the sun Had me some lovin' and I done some time on Highway 101 Up north they say I'm crazy Back east don't even know my name You gave me the wrong directions but I Got here just the same I see your silver City shine But you know I can't stay there Your streets are filled with poison wine Your windows filled with fear So I think I'll go down to old Mexico Where the weed grows green and fine And wrap myself around a bush of that bright Oaxaca vine O Pride of Cucamonga Bitter olives in the sun Had me some lovin' and I done some time on Highway 101
cool thanks!!
Wow--that is great. "Klamath Falls..." consistent with my ongoing speculation about Muskrat Flats. Wonder who did the word replacements here and there throughout that lyric?
Speaking as a inger, I would say "Muskrat Flats" MUCH easier to sing than "Klamath Falls" in that line.
True! But you could have some fun with the word "Klamath."
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permalink #21 of 28: Iceninedawg (icenine) Sun 27 Jun 21 04:32
permalink #21 of 28: Iceninedawg (icenine) Sun 27 Jun 21 04:32
Would have loved to read the article but the website says I have reached my limit of free reads which I most decidedly have not..
Use another browser?
Cool article. Here's the text (and I did make a note of this association early on in the annotation process...): When I wrote last month about Filippi Winery in Rancho Cucamonga, which may transition to a new owner in the coming years as part of new development, I didnt go into one of the winerys claims to fame. But along came reader/Deadhead William Hill to plug that gap. From 1946 to 1969, Filippi produced a cheap wine named Pride of Cucamonga, sold with a white screw cap. The locally sold wine somehow came to the attention of the Grateful Dead, who recorded a song titled Pride of Cucamonga in 1974. Oh oh, the pride of Cucamonga/Oh oh, silver apples in the sun/Oh oh, I had me some lovin/And I done some time, goes one chorus of the somewhat elusive song, in which the narrator is hitchhiking from Oregon to Mexico to escape some sort of trouble. Pride of Cucamonga was an ironic name for a low-end wine, but the song gave the product a splash of pop-culture immortality and may have led the winery in later years to revive the name, this time for a better wine. A giant reproduction of the Pride of Cucamonga label is part of a mural on the winery building at 12467 Base Line Road on the north-facing wall next to the sidewalk. Put on a tie-dyed shirt and go pose for a selfie. Also, a Dead cover band in the 909 is named Pride of Cucamonga. I once asked Gino Filippi, then the winerys vice president, about the wines legacy. Perhaps Pride of Cucamonga helped put Cucamonga on the map and helped the boys on the long road trips, Filippi mused in 2005. Keep on truckin! Hill tells me that although he attended more than 100 Dead shows which may have left him dead on his feet he never heard the band play the song, despite requests. At least one Dead fansite says the song was never performed live. This is where we get into some Dead lore that had never come to my attention. It involves member Phil Lesh, who wrote the music to Pride of Cucamonga to go along with poet Robert M. Petersens words. At shows it was often fun sport to yell out to the band Let Phil sing and then in a later-year evolution Make Phil sing. It was also on T-shirts and such, Hill explains. Thats because bass player Lesh sang only a few songs, Box of Rain among them and, you guessed it, Pride of Cucamonga. Within this subgroup of Let-Phil-Sing promoters, Hill continues, we would sometimes yell out Pride of Cucamonga! to show off our depth of knowledge on the subject, hoping some neophyte would ask us about Cucamonga. Hill says hes long intended to send a bottle of Pride of Cucamonga wine to Lesh at his Marin County restaurant and music venue, Terrapin Crossroads. If these notes merit a mention in your column, he says in his email, perhaps I will, and include your column. To your health, Mr. Lesh.
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permalink #24 of 28: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Wed 30 Jun 21 19:36
permalink #24 of 28: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Wed 30 Jun 21 19:36
And, of course, the first GD Songbook illustrated Ripple with the wine bottle!
That's right--always disliked that illustration.
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