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permalink #26 of 39: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Fri 4 Sep 15 18:40
permalink #26 of 39: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Fri 4 Sep 15 18:40
Indeed it is!
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permalink #27 of 39: it all rolls into one (sffog) Mon 7 Sep 15 15:12
permalink #27 of 39: it all rolls into one (sffog) Mon 7 Sep 15 15:12
<masonskids> wrote http://jlovkay.web.wesleyan.edu/ftreal.html and as <ddodd> noted also at http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/fauthrep.html (note: the second link has much more written on the first verse and changes the attribution from Tim Rose to Bonnie Dobson) That 1996 writing by Hunter (in the links above) does sort of match what their historian Dennis McNally writes (without a source reference) in his 2003 book A Long Strange Trip p. 483 about Franklin's Tower as a lullabye birthday wish for Hunter for both his one year old son Leroy and the United States, then approaching its bicentennial. For it is Benjamin Franklins tower and the bell of Liberty he addresses. And it is the atomic morning dew of modern America that he would like to see roll away, like the stone of Gethsemane. According to internet searches, Gethsemane is the place of the rock of agony in the garden where Jesus prayed on his fate knowing he faced a sequence of arrest, torture, and crucifixion starting later that night. And that is different than the rock that sealed the tomb of Jesus as Hunter describes in the 1996 posting in the link above. In McNallys 1990 interview of Hunter, Hunter told him that in 1962, at the point of confrontation during the Cuban missile crisis, he came outside and just stared at the sky waiting for the mushroom cloud to appear. I think that event made an impression on him and he used it in writing Franklin's Tower. In the 1996 writing, Hunter is responding to an academic critic who wrote that his lyrics are "not meaning anything at all." I believe Hunter is just messing with him in his reply. Near the end Hunter wrote: "Well, now that you know what I meant by it, it's no great shakes is it? Mystery gone, the magician's trick told, the gluttony for 'meaning' temporarily satisfied". I did not get a satisfying meaning from reading it and found parts of it confusing, but that is how many of his songs are. The Franklin as FDR still fits the lyrics better for me. As I quoted in a prior post, Hunter in regards to Franklin's Tower said the lyrics were elusive, not because they were meaningless, but because the associative patterns produced a surfeit of meaning." I think few people (including me) listen to the song with Franklin as FDR, just like few probably listen to other songs whose meanings were initially fixed such as Morning Dew (as the end of the world), New Speedway Boogie (as a response to critics of Altamont), or He's Gone (about Lenny Hart). Franklin's Tower is just a fun dance song. In Going Down the Road, Blair Jackson, 1992 p 225-226, Hunter says in general These songs are amorphous that way, What I intend is not what a thing is in the end and Jerry says We dont create the meaning of the tunes ultimately. They re-create themselves each performance in the minds of everyone there.
> Hunter told him that in 1962, at the point of confrontation during the > Cuban missile crisis, he came outside and just stared at the sky waiting > for the mushroom cloud to appear. David Browne's book SO MANY ROADS tells a story of Jerry and Sara Garcia on at that same moment.
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permalink #29 of 39: Back in Columbia Blue: (oilers1972) Fri 11 Sep 15 23:08
permalink #29 of 39: Back in Columbia Blue: (oilers1972) Fri 11 Sep 15 23:08
Hey, great minds think AND fear alike, no?
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permalink #30 of 39: John Spears (banjojohn) Fri 15 Apr 16 16:32
permalink #30 of 39: John Spears (banjojohn) Fri 15 Apr 16 16:32
> A good lyric is allusion, illusion, subterfuge and collusion. This should be fun.
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permalink #31 of 39: John Spears (banjojohn) Fri 15 Apr 16 17:15
permalink #31 of 39: John Spears (banjojohn) Fri 15 Apr 16 17:15
Thankfully, I find that even after reading Hunter's explanations, my own subjective meanings of these lines, forged in the heat of show, remain intact. Yes, from what Hunter says, the songs means, more or less, what I suspected, except he left out the part about "roll away the dew" being about "making love in(till) the dawn" and "one good ring" being the conception of the beloved child alluded in both the essay and the first couplet of the song: In another time's forgotten space Your eyes looked from your mother's face Personally, I never once imagined or considered the connection to Morning Dew. Goes to show, you don't ever know.
This might be my all-time favorite song in the GD canon...I say might be becos there are several others which come close...Cryptical Envelopement...Born Cross-eyed...The Eleven...Viola Lee Blues... And finally, of course, Dark Star and St. Stephen..And on and on...once I read Hunter's long letter about this song, my mind and eyes were opened to some of the imagery that was opaque to me b/4...some of the lyrics in this song are timeless and in some very deep ways very comforting to me
I think "In another time's forgotten space / Your eyes looked from your mother's face" is one of Hunter's greatest achievements - moreso as the years go by and the Deadheads reach into their fourth generation.
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permalink #34 of 39: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Tue 26 Apr 16 18:25
permalink #34 of 39: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Tue 26 Apr 16 18:25
Yes, it is a masterpiece, the lyrics and the musical setting are both extraordinary, even in this great canon.
I first heard it at Winterland on 6/17/75, coming out of that amazing in- strumental version of "Help on the Way." Those two opening lines just rang out beautifully.
In another times forgotten space Your eyes looked from your mother's face Always has a deep and particular resonance for me. Franklin's Tower was playing (by design) in the delivery room during my son's birth. I could see him in her eyes as he emerged and then a moment later saw his eyes looking at me from her birth canal. Now when my wife and I talk about Flynn and she is taking his point of view, I can see his eyes looking from his mother's face every time. Also, since his birth, for me, "roll away the dew" has referred to the gentle wiping away of afterbirth from a newborn and the removal of the crust form his eyes to allow the first glimpse of the world (I know newborns can't see much, but it works for me) Anyone who has been present at a birth knows that "another times forgotten space" describes the extraordinary timelessness of those elemental moments, both as they happen and in memory.
Great post, thanks! I have always loved that opening line, too.
Samesies WRT to the opening lines
And reading my post #36 I realize that, within that subjective neonatal cleansing interpretation of "roll away the dew" is the same/related concept as "wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world" One follows the other.
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