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permalink #751 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Wed 4 Apr 01 13:46
permalink #751 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Wed 4 Apr 01 13:46
Neil - congrats on the first draft. :-) Sean - I am 28% pure, and the last time I took the test I was 33%. I need to drop that more. :-) And my advice is to read Howl's Moving Castle and find out for yourself, it's lots cooler that way. "I know now!" That question got me curious and so I got that book and I read it and now I have another author to collect. :-) Madman - I got Season of Mists in the mail today. Thanks! :-) Jen
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permalink #752 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Wed 4 Apr 01 13:47
permalink #752 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Wed 4 Apr 01 13:47
Man, I smile in posts a lot.
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permalink #753 of 2008: Sweet Shiva on a Skateboard (madman) Wed 4 Apr 01 14:33
permalink #753 of 2008: Sweet Shiva on a Skateboard (madman) Wed 4 Apr 01 14:33
Jen- good! I hope it arrived in good condition.
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permalink #754 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Wed 4 Apr 01 16:05
permalink #754 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Wed 4 Apr 01 16:05
Neil- Yes, your books/stories/comics being movies will be weird, but I think they'll be okay cus you're still alive and hopefully have a lot of creative control. As long as they don't cast Sly Stalone as sir Galaad. But I can't see you having any of that...Terry Gilliam is great! I just got some books in the mail yesterday and "Good Omens" was one of them (No, I hadn't read it yet and no I don't know why not) and I love it. I think he'll do a superb job and I can't think of anyone better to do it. But, like most people, I do tend to like books better because when you're watching something on a screen, you're living the story from afar. And when you're reading, the characters are living and breathing through you in your imagination; you're there.So, I'm excited about the movies but I'm about ready to pee my pants awaiting AG. Dan and Polyamoury- I know you're not married to her or anything, but this is funny because I think the idea is very different for women than men. There was a pretty good reason that not many women throughout history have had multiple husbands/partners. Aside from sexism. I mean, really. How many women do you know that would actually WANT multiple men/husbands? Most don't know what to do with the one they have. (sitting around watching TV, not helping around the house ect..this is in general of course) Men tend to have a different view. They're all for spreading the seed, so to speak. A lot of girls I talk to think they want a man and then when they get him...don't know what to do with him and that's just one!Your Guarded Goddess must have her hands full;) (Kidding)
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permalink #755 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Wed 4 Apr 01 17:24
permalink #755 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Wed 4 Apr 01 17:24
Erynn - ROTFL!! She's an exceptional woman, to say the very least. As for the various projects.. I trust Gilliam to do something spectacular with Good Omens, just because he's Terry Gilliam. I'm *MOST* interested in Neil's film debut as director, though... (I'm working from the understanding that you're directing Death, Neil...) Actually... with Neil writing for comics, short story and poetry collections, novels, television, radio drama, songs, (formerly) journalism, being adapted for the stage, and now writing for screen and soon to be directing.... doesn't this mean that he can take the title "King of all media" away from Howard Stern?
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permalink #756 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Wed 4 Apr 01 17:29
permalink #756 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Wed 4 Apr 01 17:29
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permalink #757 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 4 Apr 01 17:30
permalink #757 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 4 Apr 01 17:30
e-mail from Lisa Moretto: Neil, I'm one of the Borders managers. Just got back from Las Vegas last night. I wanted you to know that we were able to get copies of your uncorrected proof at our book expo during our convention. It's brilliant! Well worth the wait! I am about midway through. Shadow is about to take a Greyhound to Lakeside as Mike Ainsel. I have no idea where the journey will go next. Thank you for being a part of our convention. You were very entertaining and kind! Hope to see you in NY in June! Lisa Moretto GM Borders store #60 Manchester, CT btw, Being a Blur fan, I am a bit bummed to have read that they didn't make the final edit.
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permalink #758 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Wed 4 Apr 01 17:45
permalink #758 of 2008: Sarah A. Rudek (whispered) Wed 4 Apr 01 17:45
Len- not the same Warren Ellis. It threw me for at first, too. But that would be a pretty intense double life to lead.
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permalink #759 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Wed 4 Apr 01 18:20
permalink #759 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Wed 4 Apr 01 18:20
As soon as i got home I pulled out Smoke and Mirrors and flipped to the final pages of Murder Mysteries... as you know, Neil, not a thing was changed. (well, a word or two, but you know what I mean.) I've read that story three or four times, and had managed to block out the ending each time. Something in me didn't want to accept that our narrator had done that... And I LIKE dark endings... and still I blocked it, repeatedly.
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permalink #760 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 4 Apr 01 19:35
permalink #760 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 4 Apr 01 19:35
Sean -- I wrote the answer, then I read Jenny B's post, and deleted it. She's right, you know. Michelle -- The new DC edition of Stardust is now out in paperback, O collector of Stardusts. Dan -- no, it's not changed. Go back and read the story in SMOKE AND MIRRORS... -- oops -- just read your post 759. As you see, it's all there -- Martha Soukup chided me because she felt it was all too obvious, but mostly, for most readers, it's not. As a drama, I think things sink in a little deeper. And I'm not sure it's a dark ending -- in some ways it's rather hopeful. Trev -- this is why I get very frustrated with them putting the things up before they're finalised. It looks like Vromans is back on, as we reconfigured LA in order to do Mysterious Galaxy in San Diego. Erynn -- once you sign the contract (in the case of the Sandman stuff, since I signed the contract in 1987) you have no creative control. If the producer and director of Chivalry want to cast Sly Stallone as Galaad, that's up to them; and if the producers and director of Books of Magic cast Whoopie Goldberg as Timothina Hunter, that's their call. I trust Terry Gilliam on Good Omens, but I trust him to make a Terry Gilliam film. The reason I enjoy comics and prose so much is the writer really does have creative control. Dan -- I'm contracted to direct it; if I don't wind up directing it, and they make it, they have to pay me the difference between the script at the rates I did it for them (more or less free) and my rates as a screenwriter (obscenely expensive). Lisa -- I got a phone call at 11:30 on Monday morning saying the books had been found, and I was enormously relieved. I hope they all have print-outs of the last chapter in. I had a great time at the Borders thing, and was pleased that nobody really minded me getting up on stage with a mike and just rambling at them for half an hour. If I could have justified to myself paying $200 for the Blur quote (La la la la la, I want to go to magic America/With all the Magic People) I would. But at about $12 a "La" it just seemed too high. (If the publisher was paying the permissions, as they sometimes do, I'd probably have kept it in. My original title for the book in my head in 1998 was Magic America.)
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permalink #761 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 4 Apr 01 20:16
permalink #761 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 4 Apr 01 20:16
Well, lots of smart people didn't get the stuff I thought was way too obvious in the story. So-- It's hardly that I'm too smart. Gene Wolfe has confused me more than a few times.
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permalink #762 of 2008: JaNell (jonl) Wed 4 Apr 01 20:24
permalink #762 of 2008: JaNell (jonl) Wed 4 Apr 01 20:24
Email from JaNell: Neil - speaking of table napkins, while you were doodling on one at Tomo's (ConCat), did you hear my husband pipe up with (Think Sat. Night Live skit, little boy in bathtub): "Well, you know my name is Ne-il, and I like to do drarwrings...are you looking at me bum?" >From down the table, one of the Thingees yelled out, "That's not NICE." I still laugh about that. Linda-Re:x-rated gnomes-if you don't know what to ask for, then you're not old enough for it. Re: Plushies-One of my friends, back in the late 80's, used to have a fantasy of attending conventions as a Teddy Bear and giving everyone hugs...
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permalink #763 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 4 Apr 01 20:54
permalink #763 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 4 Apr 01 20:54
Dan - On polyamory. If you *really* want my personal opinions based on my personal experiences, send me an email. On Murder Mysteries. It took until the second reading before I 'got it', and even then, if I set it down a while, I forgot until I was halfway through re-reading it again. Walker - And what's wrong with mentioning the Peeps? It's not like I described the straw's role in the relationship. 'Sides, you weren't even there. It's much more painful to remember the incident. ;) re: sloppy journalism - Two things caused me to drop my major in journalism (well, three, but 'dropping college' wasn't journalism-specific): 1) Poor research resulting in incorrect output that others might believe becoming a standard in a lot of press and 2) the fact that the journalism department at U of O was diminished to such an extent that the only remaining aspect was all-important 'advertising', which sickened me as much as it fascinated me, but it was not something I was into at all. Neil - Already called Lee's to make sure they set aside a copy of it for me. *sigh*... I had to pick Stardust to collect, didn't I? btw, I rather like the concept of "$12 per 'la'" :) Erynn - there's nothing wrong with abundant smileys. :D squeaks, 10% pure... man, last time it was 33%... I'm all corrupted!
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permalink #764 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 4 Apr 01 20:56
permalink #764 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Wed 4 Apr 01 20:56
JaNell - I have an ex-boyfriend named Simon who rather loathes that song. squeaks, who is rather used to the Beatles song by now.
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permalink #765 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 4 Apr 01 22:04
permalink #765 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 4 Apr 01 22:04
I feel I ought to mention that the mysterious film I described turns out to be Esper's MANIAC http://www.tvguide.com/movies/database/ShowMovie.asp?MI=6213 and that it wasn't sloppy journalism (which I automatically expect) but horrendously sloppy academic work (which mostly I don't). g'night
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permalink #766 of 2008: Justin Wieland (justinwieland) Wed 4 Apr 01 22:24
permalink #766 of 2008: Justin Wieland (justinwieland) Wed 4 Apr 01 22:24
neil - as i was trying to find contact information for allen spiegel fine arts on the computer earlier today , i somehow came across an interview you did where you mention a few different gk chesterton essays . ' on cheese ' and ' what he had in his pockets ' are all i'm able to recall . so i'm wondering , would you know of any nottoohardtofind books in which these or any other stand-out essays by chesterton are printed ? i haven't read many essays by him , but have been trying to get all is grist : a book of essays for a while now . i've ordered it from several different places and all of them end up being out of stock . i've been told that this is a pretty good collection . also , might you know of a way to get a hold of allen spiegel fine arts ? i've found two different addresses , and two different disconnected phone numbers . sean - i'm hoping that stuart murdoch is still recording that album . maybe two or three years back the band used to answer all your letters very quickly , and he once mentioned that he had plans to do his own thing . but if you haven't heard the stuart murdoch demos (i believe they're actually him and stuart david) they're incredible and really would make one quite eager for such a release .
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permalink #767 of 2008: Tara G. (taragl) Thu 5 Apr 01 06:20
permalink #767 of 2008: Tara G. (taragl) Thu 5 Apr 01 06:20
I took the Neil Gaiman purity test and I think it puts far too much weight on physically owning the books. Between trying to get better scores on that test and the L. Ron Hubbard purity test, I'm running out of shelf space.
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permalink #768 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Thu 5 Apr 01 06:57
permalink #768 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Thu 5 Apr 01 06:57
Ok-- decided on a fave from 69 Love Songs vol. 1: The Book of Love. So today I start the Middle School Spring Play, which will come from improvisations on stories from(no surprise)The Arabian Nights. I did the same thing last year with the Orpheus story (but I gave the kids Ovid, I'm afraid, not Neil.) This year I'm more ambitious and I'm interested in how I can intertwine the stories in the manner of Into the Woods. As was discussed ad nauseum earlier, the Arabian Nights is talmudic in length and complexity, though the Irwin Companion is helping. (btw, Neil-- I got my copy of the Arabian Nightmare from half.com yesterday.) Still having some trouble deciding what stories to do... def. want to do Ali Baba, not sure about Aladdin. I _love_ the Talking Bird story but it's 50 pages long! So here we go. Thanks again, all, for Arabian Nights input.
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permalink #769 of 2008: Sean Michaels (jonl) Thu 5 Apr 01 07:02
permalink #769 of 2008: Sean Michaels (jonl) Thu 5 Apr 01 07:02
Email from Sean Michaels: Jenny/Neil - Well of -course- I've read Howls, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately [sorry Mr. Gaiman sir]), I was a Diana Wynne Jones fan long before I was a Neil Gaiman, and thus the itty-bitty details of Howl's Moving Castle are all mixed in with Castle in the Air, the Dalemark Quartet, the Chrestomanci books, etc etc. Needless to say I must have missed whatever connection there was. I suppose unless one of you deigns to help me out I'll have to pull out my old Howl paperback when I go home in May, read it anew, visit the library, and withdraw/reread Stardust, all while in the midst of indulging in Gormenghast and brushing up on LotR in preparation for the -real- "Episode 1" come December. Phew, isnt life hard? Er, OR someone could email me the 'link' (if they're afraid of spoiling it for others) -- sea@nme.com -- so that I'll have more time to read the NEW (in n. america) DWJ.... Sean, who is typing this w/ one hand just before he goes off to the hospital as he has broken (?) his wrist. PS - Finished the Iain M. Banks -- "Look to Winward". TERRIFIC. Perhaps his best Culture novel to date. If you dont know him, read him!
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permalink #770 of 2008: Mary Roane (jonl) Thu 5 Apr 01 07:03
permalink #770 of 2008: Mary Roane (jonl) Thu 5 Apr 01 07:03
Email from Mary Roane: Hey, y'all! Just a quick e-mail to say I'm not dead. I got laid off, got rehired, and had my rent raised $175 in the last few weeks, so I've been a little busy (still am, come to think of it....) I'll be quiet, since himself just crashed ;-) Michelle-sorry to hear about the diagnosis. Sending you lots of get-well thoughts! (I'd say "warm fuzzies", but given the recent topic.....;-) ) Len--every time lately that I've thought "crap, it's 2 a.m. and I just *have* to post", you've said what I would say. Do I owe you a fee for this service? Good call on "Truly, Madly, Deeply". It's one of my favorite films. Oh, and congratulations on finishing the class. Do we have to refer to you as Mixmaster Len from now on? ( After I finished my Masters, I had a mad whim to be referred to as Master Roane. Three years of no sleep & more ass-kissing than you can imagine will do that to a girl) Neil--good morning! And congratulations to you, too, on the draft of Death. I was wondering how all that dialogue writing was coming along. Question: How have you learned about directing for the camera? Do you compulsively watch"All That Jazz"? ( Preferred way for my grad school) Do you have friends who do it & give you tips? I'm just curious because I've had a course on directing for the stage (not my bag--I've never been so nervous in my life) and I would be thoroughly intimidated by directing for the camera. I don't know much about the mechanics of it (how do you know how much light you've got left?) . I realize there are courses you can take, but I was wondering how you did it. Mary Roane (parenthetical queen, reading "Born With the Dead" by Robert Silverberg--depressing!)
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permalink #771 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Thu 5 Apr 01 09:00
permalink #771 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Thu 5 Apr 01 09:00
Oh hallo. I am new. I haven't taken the Neil Purity test but I think I'm about as Grade A Virgin Pure as I can get. I would like to join your little web oasis, if I may. I will think of smart things to say and EVERYTHING! thank you.
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permalink #772 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Thu 5 Apr 01 10:19
permalink #772 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Thu 5 Apr 01 10:19
Hi Adriana!
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permalink #773 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 5 Apr 01 10:31
permalink #773 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 5 Apr 01 10:31
Sorry about the delay on these. Harper Collins were waiting for the last couple to be finalised. These are all the US signings from the June-July tour. They don't include the Canadian signings, or the UK signings. (If your city, or state, or area of the country isn't on here, it's not my fault. I don't pick 'em. If you can get your local bookstore to wail piteously enough to Harper Collins, we might be able to get them on the American Gods in Paperback/Coraline tour next May, if there is one.) ... NEIL GAIMANS TOUR DATES 6/19/01 6:00 PM New York, NY Borders World Trade Center Church & Vesey Sts. New York City 10048 (212) 839-8049 6/20/01 8:00 PM Huntington, NY Book Revue 313 New York Avenue Huntington, NY 11743 (631) 271-1442 6/21/01 7:00 PM Champaign/Savoy, IL Pages For All Ages 1201 Savoy Plaza Savoy, IL 61874 (217) 351-7243 6/22/01 1:00 PM Evanston, IL Stars Our Destination 705 Main St. Evanston, IL 60202 (847) 570-5925 6/22/01 8:00 PM Skokie, IL Barnes & Noble 55 Old Orchard Center, Skokie, IL 60077 (847) 676-2230 6/23/01 1:00 PM Lexington, KY Joseph-Beth Booksellers Lexington Green 161 Lexington Green Circle Lexington, KY 40503 (859) 271-5330 6/23/01 7:00 PM Dayton, OH Books & Co. 350 E. Stroop St. Dayton, OH 45429 (937) 297-6356 6/24/01 1:00 PM Cleveland, OH Joseph-Beth Booksellers The Shops at Shaker Square 13217 Shaker Square Cleveland, OH 44120 (216) 751-3300 6/25/01 4:00 PM Seattle, WA Third Place Booksellers 17171 Bothell Way N.E. Lake Forest Park, WA 98155 (206)366-3333 6/25/01 7:00 PM Seattle, WA University Booksellers Keane Hall, Room 130 University of Washington Campus Seattle, WA 98155 (206) 545-4363 6/26/01 7:30 PM Menlo Park, CA Keplers Books 1010 El Camino Real Menlo Park, CA 94025 (650) 324-4321 6/27/01 1:00 PM San Francisco, CA The Booksmith 1644 Haight St. San Francisco, CA 94117 (415) 863-8688 6/27/01 7:30 PM Berkeley, CA Codys Booksellers 2454 Telegraph Ave. Berkeley, CA 94704 1-800-704-4336 6/28/01 12:30 PM San Diego, CA Mysterious Galaxy 7051 Clairemont Mesa Boulevard San Diego, CA 92111 1-800-704-4336 6/28/01 7:00 PM Los Angeles, CA Vromans Books 3405 Lake Avenue Pasadena, CA 91101 1-800-769-BOOK 6/29/01 8:00 PM Los Angeles, CA Book Soup 8818 Sunset Boulevard West Hollywood, CA 90069 (310) 659-3110 1-800-764-BOOK 7/1/01 2:00 PM Minneapolis, MN DreamHaven 912 W. Lake St. Minneapolis, MN 55408 (612) 823-6161 7/2/01 7:00 PM Rosedale, MN Barnes & Noble 2100 N. Snelling Ave. Rosedale, MN 55113 (651) 639-9256
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permalink #774 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 5 Apr 01 10:39
permalink #774 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 5 Apr 01 10:39
Feel very free to cut and paste the above post and spread it anywhere that people might want to see it. ... Mary, I think the thing that gave me the hubris to want to direct wasn't anything other than dissatisfaction with directors I've worked with, and the distinct feeling of "I could do better than that", and "that wasn't what I'd meant!" And with something as close and personal as Death, I'd rather like it to be me that does it.
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permalink #775 of 2008: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 5 Apr 01 10:48
permalink #775 of 2008: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 5 Apr 01 10:48
Nice tour itinerary!
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