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permalink #1401 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 18 May 01 20:54
permalink #1401 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 18 May 01 20:54
madman - trans-species peeps sex *was* with chicks and bunnies... and a bar straw. The trauma of remembering this horrific event may lead to even more psychotherapy than I already have planned for the summer. Erynn (and Neil) - I'm working on a back-up ride for you. Don't know if anything will pan out, but I'm trying. As for new song. I can send you an MP3 of a second one I did. But for more, you'll have to get my bandmate to stop having problems with his a)computer, b)siblings and c)dead relations. Tara - I vote for moose imitations and chicken calls, but I'm not going to Chicago this time, so I guess my vote doesn't really count. Dan Guy - Don't be too jealous. Some of us are simply more willing to go into debt to play in this manner than others (weighing food vs. Neil vs. school vs. thingies...) Martha - I'd say having friends who are *former* huge stars is an improvement, but I think it depends on their current job description. Gamer geeks with a deadline are harder to get hold of than authors with books being released. squeaks, doing her darndest to earn her Stardusts. :)
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permalink #1402 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Fri 18 May 01 21:40
permalink #1402 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Fri 18 May 01 21:40
I don't know if I'd like David Bowie. Maybe, but there are lots of famous people I suspect I wouldn't like much.
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permalink #1403 of 2008: Robynne (gorey) Fri 18 May 01 21:53
permalink #1403 of 2008: Robynne (gorey) Fri 18 May 01 21:53
I don't know if I would like David Bowie, but I'm pretty sure I'd like John Watson, who looks like a couple of David Bowies stacked on top of each other.
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permalink #1404 of 2008: A couple of David Bowies stacked on top of each other (the-roane) Sat 19 May 01 01:04
permalink #1404 of 2008: A couple of David Bowies stacked on top of each other (the-roane) Sat 19 May 01 01:04
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Tara--the uisgejack part. I figured you had less say in the Tara O'Shea part ;-) Squeaks--if you were coming, we would do moose impressions, just to hear yours. Len--break a leg yourself! How was Moulin Rouge? I have a good friend who just went to Houston to audition for Luhrman's La Boheme. Boy, have we got our fingers crossed on that one! Shawn--thank God. I'm from Mississippi, & I'm glad to see you & JaNell here! Welcome! Chris--thanks for the link! Kelly--welcome! Mary, who just finished Kent Haruf's Plainsong & thought it was one of the best books she's read in a long time. And is up waaaaay too late!
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permalink #1405 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Sat 19 May 01 06:53
permalink #1405 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Sat 19 May 01 06:53
Erynn -- You packed yourself? bwah hah hah. That's marvelous. (Though I imagine it's rather bothersome in the packing department.) Michelle -- Money is not the problem; as I said, I'd gladly fly in for the evening. The thing stopping me is that Neil starts touring right when my wife is scheduled to give to birth to our first child, and I can't very well go anywhere until that happens lest I miss it and I can't very well go anywhere immediately after that happens as she'll need help and support and love and stuff. It's a worthwhile trade-off, I suppose. ^^ I think I'd like David Bowie, but of course I have no way of knowing, really.
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permalink #1406 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 19 May 01 09:32
permalink #1406 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 19 May 01 09:32
I've known people that have met him and they say that he is very charming and down to Earth, especially for who he is, but you never know. A friend of mine's dad was a stage tech for him, back in the Ziggy Stardust days and his job was to make him arrive on stage coming down from the ceiling in an elevator. It was supposed to happen slowly, the grand entrance. But something went wrong and the elevator zoomed down too quickly and crashed to the ground with a bang, he rolled out, quite shaken and reluctantly started signing. The guy assumed he was going to be yelled at and fired, because that's what rock stars usually do when something goes wrong. But after the show, Mr. Bowie approached him, smiling, and said, "That was a lot cooler than I thought it was going to be." Michelle- Yeah! I want to hear it! Don't worry about the ride thing. I'll be covered, but thank you anyway. I didn't mean to make a big deal out of it, because it's not. When there are big things happening, I have a habit of making trivial things into big things because sometimes my brain doesn't work right under stress. Dan Guy- yes and then I unpacked myself and had a headache for a long time. Now my problem is keeping the cats from packing themselves. Good luck with the upcoming baby! That's so exciting! Do you know what it's going to be? Have you and your wife agreed on any names yet? Erynn, who finds it amazing that when I need help moving, suddenly all of my friends have something better to do and run away....
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permalink #1407 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 19 May 01 13:11
permalink #1407 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 19 May 01 13:11
Mary - I think I'd just show up with antlers on. ('so, what Neil-related character are you showing up as?' - scary part; I'd have an answer) Dan Guy - That'll teach me to skim over posts when I'm in a hurry. I completely missed the baby part! Yeah, I think of all the excuses there are to have to miss Neil, that's the most acceptable and worthwhile. Congrats! Erynn - Just as well, since I got no useful responses on the ride part (although I now know how to say 'thank you' in Magyar (koszonom)). And the trick for moving is to invite a bunch of people over for a party, then conveniently have a truck full of your things show up in the middle of the party. A handful of thingies can back me up on this one. :) Oh, and check your inbox in about half an hour. back to cleaning and lots of reading. squeaks (muppet muppet muppet muppet!)
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permalink #1408 of 2008: -N. (streak) Sat 19 May 01 16:09
permalink #1408 of 2008: -N. (streak) Sat 19 May 01 16:09
The famous people I've met, mostly through my quasi-famous father, have mostly been pretty nice folks. I'm reminded, however, of a bad habit I've seen in my fellow geeks. Whenever they have a role-playing or fictional character who is Very Old or a time traveller or whatever, and their character has met famous historical figures, they always have to make this meeting fit their cliche of that figure. So your character talked philosophy with Voltaire, and discussed science with Galileo, and Picasso showed them the sketches for _Guernica_ and on and on. Just once I'd like to see an immortal time-traveller or whatever who took Voltaire's lunch order and got her butt pinched when she turned her back on him, and discussed Galileo's overdue tailor bill, and to whom Picasso showed his weird rash and asked "Do you think it's spreading?" Likewise, when I met Patrick Stewart, he wanted to talk about visiting the California wine country. Danny Hillis wanted to show off the stuff he built in his basement carpentry shop. Tim Powers, one of my favorite novelists, wished he had more time to talk politics. And so on and so forth. In my admittedly-limited experience, famous people are like anyone else, except that they're extremely well-known for one thing, which apparently causes assumptions in a lot of people that that's the only interesting thing about them. I would suspect that the famous would, statistically, skew nicer than average, because you don't get famous without people helping you, so the system would tend to select against jerks. Leifeld and MacFarlane remain a statistical anomaly.
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permalink #1409 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 19 May 01 16:48
permalink #1409 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 19 May 01 16:48
Yes, I agree. However, many people seem to lose touch with reality and forget why they started doing things and where they came from to begin with. Most of them probably weren't always like that (conceited and "holier than thou", I mean) and it mainly seems to be an actor/musician thing (Noel Gallager anyone?) I don't see it too much with writers and visual artists. But there is a certain Rock Star from here (Cleveland) that a few of my older friends remember meeting in clubs and parties back in the day. My first question to the was: "Were you close?" All of their replies arrived at pretty much the same conclusions: "Are you kidding? I tried, but he was the biggest ass***e!" and that was before he was famous.... I don't know if it's all a famous thing, cus I know a lot of conceited people who are "nobodies" (but they think they're god) And MacFarlane I would never want to meet, or he wouldn't want to meet me, because my foot would be lodged in his ass for a long time. Neil- How's Brazil? Do you feel like a Beatle (or backstreet boy) yet?
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permalink #1410 of 2008: Justin Wieland (justinwieland) Sat 19 May 01 19:04
permalink #1410 of 2008: Justin Wieland (justinwieland) Sat 19 May 01 19:04
neil - thanks for the help with the book . several copies at alibris.com . and all i'd been searching for before was for anything with a title that had both the words chesterton and essays . on a completely different subject . . . with all the talk ( not that much really , but anyway . . . ) about creator's rights happening in here right now , i was just curious how you feel about warning : contains language being available on napster . sined justin . who's listening to the live cd by josef k and recommends it to all .
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permalink #1411 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 19 May 01 19:31
permalink #1411 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sat 19 May 01 19:31
streak - (whiney HomerSimpsonesque murmuring) You've met Patrick Stewart? on famous people in general - Having met a few here and there through club stuff (music people any way), I've tended to notice that if you treat them like average joes and are cordial, then as long as they haven't just had the worst sound check imaginable, they're pretty damned human right back. Some are total jerks, some are really friendly, all have an occasional bad day. Many take the extra effort to be nicer to people because they are well known. Many make an effort to seem unapproachable because they'd like a little privacy. It's also important to know that certain people have a stage persona; and thus you should not throw a punch at one of the nicest people alive just because he spits at you from the stage. squeaks, who has heard both 'total sweetheart' and 'stuck-up bitch' about Siouxsie, and believes them both.
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permalink #1412 of 2008: -N. (streak) Sat 19 May 01 20:57
permalink #1412 of 2008: -N. (streak) Sat 19 May 01 20:57
<geekbrag>Well, I was on the set and they were shooting an episode, so when they broke from filming the scene and Mr. Stewart sat down to go over the remainder of the script, so my girlfriend over went over to get a couple autographs and chat. He's more impressive in person than on screen. A year or two later, I saw his _A Christmas Carol_ at the Old Vic Theater in London. And photos of me ran in the Astro City letter column once.</geekbrag> Had to turn that off before it got out of control... :-)
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permalink #1413 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sat 19 May 01 21:50
permalink #1413 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sat 19 May 01 21:50
I have to agree- a great deal of the time, you act like they are a human, and lo and behold, they are. Like <streak> I've met a fair number of famous people through my father- mostly musicians, in my case. And even the ones whose music I loathe usually turned out to be such nice guys that I can no longer say, "Oh, Chris Isaac? Man, I hate him." I'm much more careful to say "I really don't enjoy his music," because damn, he was really nice. (And better looking than ANY human being has a right to be. Of course there are assholes, and I'd go so far as to say that the percentage is higher than in the groups of human beings who don't get worshipped. Ya know, deja vu and all; I think we had much of this conversation back in the old topic. See, Neil, you're so NICE that we keep bringing up how surprising it is.
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permalink #1414 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 19 May 01 23:26
permalink #1414 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 19 May 01 23:26
Powers is a sweetie but it's hard for me to think of him as famous. I first met him years and years ago in a con suite where he told me at great length his theory that writers should never have credit cards. Pretty sound theory actually.
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permalink #1415 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 19 May 01 23:33
permalink #1415 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 19 May 01 23:33
I wanna see Neil angry. Not at anyone in particular, of course. Just for kicks....
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permalink #1416 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sat 19 May 01 23:39
permalink #1416 of 2008: experience uncut Martha (madman) Sat 19 May 01 23:39
Dare I ask why writers should never have credit cards?
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permalink #1417 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Sun 20 May 01 07:20
permalink #1417 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Sun 20 May 01 07:20
Erynn -- Thanks! It's alleged to be a boy, in which case we're naming him "Alexander Dominic Fowlkes" (showing slightly more reserve than my parents who named me for a gunpowder plotter and then encouraged me to burn myself in effigy every year). Michelle -- Thanks. I love the antlers idea! Streak -- An excellent point. (And on a barely related note, I was re-reading Frank Miller's _Ronin_ in Borders yesterday and kept turning to my wife and saying, "Hey, Leifeld totally stole this entire page for 'X-Force'!" Bah.) Martha -- Writers shouldn't have credit cards? Do tell! Yesterday I got in the mail a package from Doubleday's marketing department a bunch of promotional stuff for Chuck Palahniuk's upcoming book, _Choke_. It's got three posters, several sheets of stickers, and what looks like about a hundred postcards. (Checking eBay, I'm surprised that none of it is there yet.) I thought it was an interesting idea, involving the fans in the marketing like that. I wish that other publishers did it. (If I'm going to go to the trouble of pasting up posters around town and slipping postcards into books and the like, I'd rather be doing it for, oh I dunno, say, _American Gods_? ^^) On the other hand, I mean, it's Chuck "Mr. Controversial" Palahniuk and it's a book about sex addiction among other things, I really don't think it's going to be suffering from lack of press so I don't really see why Doubleday is going to this expense.
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permalink #1418 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 20 May 01 11:48
permalink #1418 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 20 May 01 11:48
Writers should never have credit cards because THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. Neil and about half a dozen others excepted. But Powers is among the majority.
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permalink #1419 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sun 20 May 01 17:34
permalink #1419 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sun 20 May 01 17:34
Michelle - Antlers? you'd be the wild hart, would you not? btw, how was your muppet mayhem?? Neil - Hope you're enjoying Brasil! I had the opportunity to spend Thanksgiving week in Rio last year and had an absolute blast. I have a coworker from there, and I may spend some time in the more rural parts of Brasil this December, but it's all still up in the air. I hope you're finding good things to eat, though. Everywere I went was *very* carniverous (mmmmmmm) Martha - I'm about halfway through Arbitrary Placement of Walls! Loving it!! You'll quite possibly have to deal with me bugging you about doing an adaptation of one of the stories for our October show. *batting my eyelashes at you* DanGuy - Congrats on the soon-to-be-offspring. Get your sleep while you can!
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permalink #1420 of 2008: Claudine (jonl) Sun 20 May 01 18:14
permalink #1420 of 2008: Claudine (jonl) Sun 20 May 01 18:14
Email from Claudine: Hello, After reading Suzanne's post about Vroman's, I feel compelled to mention that the Vroman's signing will not be in the main bookstore on Colorado Ave, but will be in their space on Lake Ave which houses their "Museum Collection." I'm worried about potentially lost Neil fans who saw Vroman's name but not the Lake Ave part. Martha, I had no idea that Ditch Day was documented in literature. I'm a grad student at Caltech now, and for six years I have watched the bands of undergrads running around campus in matching t-shirts with amusement and some envy. I've tried to find your work in local bookstores, but no luck yet. Ditch Day was just this past Thursday, actually. Nothing too wild, though the huge pink bra draped on the library was amusing. I hopefully will see some of you at the LA signings, Claudine
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permalink #1421 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 20 May 01 19:33
permalink #1421 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 20 May 01 19:33
Thank you, Dan. Claudine, probably the only way you'll find my book is mail-order. It was a ton of fun inventing an imaginary stack.
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permalink #1422 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 20 May 01 20:40
permalink #1422 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 20 May 01 20:40
Neil, who is down in South America able to work his e-mail but not get on the net or otherwise access the Well, sends me this: ====== Had an idea -- could you ask Lenny Bailes if he knows of a Dial-up networking script that will get me connected with compuserve through the Equant network -- he was so helpful with the whole Windows NT thing initially... === Lenny?
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permalink #1423 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sun 20 May 01 23:17
permalink #1423 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Sun 20 May 01 23:17
Claudine, I'm trying to go down south for a signing or two. And a bunch of thingies will be there. I can introduce you, if you haven't met any of them yet. Dan - Muppets were a good way to introduce an apartment of people who had never met each other before. But I may have to induce severe head trauma to get some of the music ('tie a yellow (ribbit) round the old oak tree'... 'old man (ribbit)'...) out of my head. squeaks, who assumes this is Claudine of Eye of Horus sig file infamy.
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permalink #1424 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 21 May 01 07:48
permalink #1424 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 21 May 01 07:48
Dan -- Thanks. ^^ That's what everyone says. It's also my wife and my anniversary today!
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permalink #1425 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Mon 21 May 01 10:31
permalink #1425 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Mon 21 May 01 10:31
I'm sending Martha the standard PPP Compuserve dialup script that I know about. If Neil's Brazilian network rejects this, it may be necessary to insert some extra characters.
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