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Topic 113: Katie Hafner: The Well-A Story of Love, Death, and Real Life in the Seminal Online Community
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permalink #276 of 379: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Thu 21 Jun 01 18:18
permalink #276 of 379: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Thu 21 Jun 01 18:18
Well said.
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permalink #277 of 379: David Gans (tnf) Thu 21 Jun 01 18:26
permalink #277 of 379: David Gans (tnf) Thu 21 Jun 01 18:26
Nice, Gerard.
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permalink #278 of 379: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 21 Jun 01 18:59
permalink #278 of 379: Gail Williams (gail) Thu 21 Jun 01 18:59
Thanks.
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permalink #279 of 379: Dr. Leda Horticulture (leroy) Thu 21 Jun 01 19:03
permalink #279 of 379: Dr. Leda Horticulture (leroy) Thu 21 Jun 01 19:03
Ah.
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permalink #280 of 379: Undo Influence (mnemonic) Thu 21 Jun 01 20:39
permalink #280 of 379: Undo Influence (mnemonic) Thu 21 Jun 01 20:39
I could have told you, Gerard, that it would be hard to read those passages out loud.
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permalink #281 of 379: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 21 Jun 01 22:15
permalink #281 of 379: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 21 Jun 01 22:15
Very nice, Gerard. Occasionally someone complains that Tom's story is just a slice, that the WELL is so much larger. Could be vice versa... the WELL is just a slice, Tom's story is so much larger.
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permalink #282 of 379: Bob 'rab' Bickford (rab) Fri 22 Jun 01 11:14
permalink #282 of 379: Bob 'rab' Bickford (rab) Fri 22 Jun 01 11:14
Damn, just when ya think you've got someone like <boswell> firmly down in the "unredeemable jerk" category, he comes along and posts something wonderful like that. Well done, and very well said, Gerard.
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permalink #283 of 379: rankincense and myrrh (vsclyne) Fri 22 Jun 01 11:56
permalink #283 of 379: rankincense and myrrh (vsclyne) Fri 22 Jun 01 11:56
Yes. Very nice.
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permalink #284 of 379: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 22 Jun 01 13:35
permalink #284 of 379: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 22 Jun 01 13:35
Indeed. Thank you.
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permalink #285 of 379: Angus MacDonald (angus) Sun 24 Jun 01 02:15
permalink #285 of 379: Angus MacDonald (angus) Sun 24 Jun 01 02:15
Yes.
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permalink #286 of 379: My free and simple demeanor set everybody at ease. (pdl) Sun 24 Jun 01 17:21
permalink #286 of 379: My free and simple demeanor set everybody at ease. (pdl) Sun 24 Jun 01 17:21
A somewhat clueless review of katie's book appears in today's Austin American-Statesman. Besides other misconceptions, the writer seems to think that the well doesn't exist any more: http://www.austin360.com/statesman/editions/today/life_entertainment_8.html
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permalink #287 of 379: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 24 Jun 01 17:55
permalink #287 of 379: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 24 Jun 01 17:55
I just sent him an email...let's see what he says. (I should point him to this topic, actually...)
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permalink #288 of 379: musing generally (satyr) Sun 24 Jun 01 18:08
permalink #288 of 379: musing generally (satyr) Sun 24 Jun 01 18:08
From satyr@well.com Sun Jun 24 18:07:47 2001 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:07:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Payne <satyr@well.com> To: letters@statesman.com Subject: premature news of demise Responding to "Tales from the cyberfrontier", by Karl D. Stephan, Sunday, June 24, 2001. <http://www.austin360.com/statesman/editions/today/life_entertainment_8.html> Mr. Stephan seems to be under the impression that The WELL exists only in the past tense. Nothing could be further from the truth. In particular, this passage - "In 1999, its operating organization was absorbed into Salon.com, and The Well ceased to exist as an independent entity." - is particularly clueless, as the purchase by Salon has, if anything, reinforced and reinvigorated The WELL's original character. It may still be small, but, byte for byte, it's still the seminal online community. Sincerely, John T. Payne, Boulder, Colorado [] John T. Payne - PO Box 4534 - Boulder, CO 80306 [] http://www.well.com/user/satyr/ - satyr@well.com
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permalink #289 of 379: musing generally (satyr) Sun 24 Jun 01 18:09
permalink #289 of 379: musing generally (satyr) Sun 24 Jun 01 18:09
I need a copy editor...
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permalink #290 of 379: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 24 Jun 01 19:30
permalink #290 of 379: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Sun 24 Jun 01 19:30
Good one, though.
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permalink #291 of 379: Berliner (captward) Mon 25 Jun 01 02:13
permalink #291 of 379: Berliner (captward) Mon 25 Jun 01 02:13
Gawd, the Statesman, my ex-employer, clueless? The book's short, but obviously he didn't finish it. I just wish I'd read it in time for the majority of the discussion. Amazon.de works in mysterious ways.
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permalink #292 of 379: Bryan Higgins (bryan) Mon 25 Jun 01 13:23
permalink #292 of 379: Bryan Higgins (bryan) Mon 25 Jun 01 13:23
It says it ceased to exist ~as an independent entity~, which is true.
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permalink #293 of 379: Bob 'rab' Bickford (rab) Mon 25 Jun 01 13:32
permalink #293 of 379: Bob 'rab' Bickford (rab) Mon 25 Jun 01 13:32
But completely misleading.
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permalink #294 of 379: musing generally (satyr) Mon 25 Jun 01 13:55
permalink #294 of 379: musing generally (satyr) Mon 25 Jun 01 13:55
The WELL was no more an independent entity before the sale than after. Matter of fact, it never has been. First there was Point Foundation, then B.K., and now Salon. The WELL has tottered on through it all, only somewhat ruffled by the changes.
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permalink #295 of 379: Katie Hafner (kmh) Tue 26 Jun 01 19:25
permalink #295 of 379: Katie Hafner (kmh) Tue 26 Jun 01 19:25
So glad to see this topic didn't die quite yet (I got super busy at work and haven't checked in). Gerard, I so wish I could have been there to hear you read. And reviews? I'm learning to ignore them. :-)
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permalink #296 of 379: Katie Hafner (kmh) Tue 26 Jun 01 20:03
permalink #296 of 379: Katie Hafner (kmh) Tue 26 Jun 01 20:03
And forgot to say: This whole discussion has been lots of fun. Never a dull moment...
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permalink #297 of 379: Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Tue 26 Jun 01 20:43
permalink #297 of 379: Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Tue 26 Jun 01 20:43
That's us. Always will be.
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permalink #298 of 379: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Wed 27 Jun 01 05:36
permalink #298 of 379: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Wed 27 Jun 01 05:36
Karl Stephan responded to my email. He acknowledged that his review would have been better if he had spoken with an active member of the WELL, and he notes that the sense that the WELL is a bunch of Sausalito ex-hippies is pretty much what you get from the book... can't argue with that. Seems like a very nice guy...
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permalink #299 of 379: Dodge (hnowell) Wed 27 Jun 01 06:50
permalink #299 of 379: Dodge (hnowell) Wed 27 Jun 01 06:50
Man. That's pretty out there. Would he like to hear from more of us? Gimme his email address and I'll show him non-existent Well.
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permalink #300 of 379: Paul Bissex (biscuit) Wed 27 Jun 01 07:30
permalink #300 of 379: Paul Bissex (biscuit) Wed 27 Jun 01 07:30
Be mellow, man. We're hippies!
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