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permalink #701 of 2008: abbe (abbecohen) Mon 30 Jul 01 07:59
permalink #701 of 2008: abbe (abbecohen) Mon 30 Jul 01 07:59
CNN says Stardust is a childrens' book? Hmm... I must admit I read it as quickly as I reread all of my favorite children's books, and it is a bit *short*... but didn't it say right on the front page that it was a fairy tale for grownups or something? Meanwhile, toriamos.com mentions they're going to have some stuff from Neil soon, and they describe him as the artist/writer of Sandman but don't mention Neverwhere or American Gods or anything. Neil got my hopes up with that link in the blogger to the place that both he and Steven Brust are going to be in New Orleans in November, because I'd been thinking of going to a conference there and I really thought it might be the weekend before the conference. But it's not. =( It does make me wonder why he has to go to New Orleans to see Steven Brust, as years of reading the author blurbs and articles of Neil, Steven Brust, Emma Bull, and the likes had me convinced that the only people who live in Minneapolis are excellent authors whose books I love, and if they all live in the same place and turned up in one anothers books and performed on one anothers CDs I had to imagine that they'd all show up at the same informal parties in one anothers living rooms, as well.
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permalink #702 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 30 Jul 01 08:27
permalink #702 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 30 Jul 01 08:27
Neil- actually, they're only twenty bucks on eBay, which I thought was cheap, but then I realized they're probably second generation, so, yeah, you're idea is probably better. OTOH, though, they had some copy guards on the Eddie Izzard ones I got before, and the conversion was jumpy. The SANDMAN script is the one with the Corinthian. They don't have the version with John Dee, but I thought the one with the Corinthian rocked pretty damned hard; liked how they combined elements of PRELUDES with DOLL'S HOUSE. Worked well, I thought. I even got chills at one point.
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permalink #703 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 30 Jul 01 08:28
permalink #703 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 30 Jul 01 08:28
Oh, and JaNell- I LOVE the 'Zen Diagram.' Who said that? It's great.
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permalink #704 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 09:47
permalink #704 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 09:47
Will, he said it at: http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/jobenvy/07/29/neil.gaiman.focus/index.html and thanks to whoever posted the address originally. Anyone get to the chat? I kept getting bumped...
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permalink #705 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 30 Jul 01 10:04
permalink #705 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 30 Jul 01 10:04
Michelle - I'll definitely swing by Faerie camp to say hello. This is my second year at Burning Man, and this time I seem to know folks all over the Playa... it'll be great to go as a resident and not as a newbie... I was talking with Eden yesterday, and the subject of stalkers came up... I shared your label of "favorite stalker" as an example that some stalkers are benign and cool and not scary at all (although you are the exception rather than the rule).
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permalink #706 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 30 Jul 01 10:46
permalink #706 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 30 Jul 01 10:46
Will -- If it's the Sandman script I think it is, I wasn't a huge fan. What I liked of it was taken verbatim from the series, and many of the changes and fudges I didn't like so much. I think that AG could make a very nice 6-10 hour film, if done right. ^^ Neil -- {taps chin pensively} Yes, I could see you going on to talk about a movie or some such. Oh, that would be delightful. If everything comes to pass with you directing "Death", you simply must!
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permalink #707 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 30 Jul 01 10:57
permalink #707 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 30 Jul 01 10:57
Hmm. A handful of beautiful goths? ... thank you, Neil. :-) .. but what's with Good Omens being listed as "short stories and poems"... ? Also, if I may be so vocally curious... I don't think I've ever heard why you chose to move to the States? (The location is somewhat obvious...) Burning Man folks... this novice has a question, and feel free to eMail me the answer privately, if necessary. I hear everyone talking about camps, and I do know they're theme camps... however, my other and I are just headed down there alone... does one need to register somewhere, where one is staying? How precisely does this work... do you simply choose a spot and set up, or does someone tell you where? Trying to find this particular piece of information isn't easy (it might help if the BM website were updated...), and anything you can share would be great. Additionally, any OTHER information you think two novices should know would be great. ;-) (Worry not about survivalism stuff; we lived in northern Nevada for a while, know about playa dust, and have experianced a broken down truck in the middle of the desert with no emergency supplies or gear... we've got the survivalism thing down.) -Kelly
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permalink #708 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 30 Jul 01 11:19
permalink #708 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 30 Jul 01 11:19
[...] as years of reading the author blurbs and articles of Neil, >>Steven Brust, Emma Bull, and the likes had me convinced that the >>only people who live in Minneapolis are excellent authors whose >>books I love, and if they all live in the same place and turned up >>in one anothers books and performed on one anothers CDs [...] Whereas we actually all live in towers spread across a Peakeabooean inksketch landscape, the air heavy with coalsmoke and grain dust, in garrets lined with crumbling books and the viscera of bygone critics preserved in jars (except mine, which I wear), hoarding our dwindling magical energies for attacks on one another and CD remixes as the Northern sun reddens and fades. A lot like Seattle, actually, with less rain and a different coffee/espresso ratio.
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permalink #709 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 30 Jul 01 11:20
permalink #709 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 30 Jul 01 11:20
Sorry, that should be "Peakeaboolean." It's not -all- fantasy up here.
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permalink #710 of 2008: JaNell Golden (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 11:25
permalink #710 of 2008: JaNell Golden (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 11:25
"...hoarding our dwindling magical energies for attacks on one another ..." (most evil Mr. Burns voice) "Excellent."
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permalink #711 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:20
permalink #711 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:20
The Dialing Urth.
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permalink #712 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:39
permalink #712 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:39
DanGuy- which Sandman script did you read? The one with the Corinthian as the main villain? I really liked it, to be honest. Okay, showing my uninitiated newbie gills here; I've *heard* of it, but don't quite know what burning man is. Can anyone give you a brief rundown?
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permalink #713 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:40
permalink #713 of 2008: Will Entrekin (willentrekin) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:40
erm. That was supposed to be *me*, not 'you'. *Me* a brief description...
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permalink #714 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:42
permalink #714 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 12:42
Yes, please do, I've heard of it, and this is an informal forum so...
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permalink #715 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 30 Jul 01 13:41
permalink #715 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 30 Jul 01 13:41
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permalink #716 of 2008: Rebecca Atchison (nefertiti) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:00
permalink #716 of 2008: Rebecca Atchison (nefertiti) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:00
Hey, Dan, you slipped in on me there. I was going to request Burning Man info, too, as I also live on the Other Coast and am continually befuddled by the arcane camp and Playa references. So thanks, I'll indulge my curiosity. Also...is it just me, or was there a funny echo effect in your post?
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permalink #717 of 2008: Blythe Summers (blythe-summers) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:01
permalink #717 of 2008: Blythe Summers (blythe-summers) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:01
Just got Live at the Aladdin in the mail today :) Along with my own copy of Gods and Tulips (I had previously stolen away my boyfriend's copy). So that will be fun to watch! JaNell--You'll have to post a picture of your Delirium doll when you're done, if you can. Last Christmas I made my boyfriend a sculpture thing with Morpheus on one side brooding and the other side with Daniel in his throne--obviously inspired by pics from the comics. They were fun to make :) Have you seen the delirium doll out it most comic stores? By the way, for those of you that don't peruse Wizard, (or have friends that do) and you collect the Endless action figures...Delirium is coming out in the late fall I think. Some other figures too, but I forget and I don't want to name the wrong character and get someone's hopes up. Neil--I'm glad you liked my site. I took that books-by-the-yard quotation off till I can fix it, sorry. Good thing I cited everything so you were able to find it, but I feel bad that I made you go look for it. And thanks for the permission :) I was a little worried. Um, and if you liked it, you could ask the webmaster of your site to put up a link on the link page--but I know most of the sites up there are big cool sites, so I totally don't expect you too :) Anyhow, thanks for taking a chance to check it out!
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permalink #718 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:15
permalink #718 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:15
lets try that again, without this echo. Kelly -- My first year I went, I made arrangements beforehand to camp in a certain villiage. When I got there I pitched my tent in the dark and the next morning woke up to find myself in the utter wrong place. Moral of this story: it doesn't really matter where you camp, so long as you leave the main street row/circle to registered/reserved camps. Will -- Yes, that one. I have, admittedly, zero experience translating movie scripts to screen, but it felt to me as though something was lacking. Probably just jealousy on my part that someone else gets to bring Sandman to the screen. (Maybe, one day, at least.) I didn't like, among other things, making Rose's mom the dreamsand junkie and the plot changes that it entailed. I did like some qualities of the script, though, most notably that they managed to include nearly all of my favourite bits from the first two arcs. Will & JaNell -- There is always <http://www.burningman.com/> for starters. Trying to explain BM is, in my experience, a very difficult thing to do with any justice. I wrote a short novella attempting to answer just that question for a cultural anthropology class ("in the style of Baudrillard's _America_", I said in my pitch), which I would be happy to email to any interested parties. ^_^
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permalink #719 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:29
permalink #719 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 14:29
Blythe - my friend Krista has one, I think. And I plan to post lots of stuff I'm doing, as soon as I update my website, because I need an outlet something fierce.
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permalink #720 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 30 Jul 01 16:26
permalink #720 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 30 Jul 01 16:26
Kelly, you only need to register your camp if you're a theme camp, like Ms. Mousey is involved in. My camp, Sanctum of the Erotic Goddess, isn't really a theme camp. We'll be doing stuff, and have art, and probably kidnap slaves and make them fan us and feed us grapes, but nothing formalized. So, if you aren't an official theme camp, then you can camp anywhere except for the reserved theme camp sites. As for what is Burning Man? Oy.. that's a difficult question, as Dan Guy has well pointed out... It's art, it's community, it's sexuality (but not much sex.. too much Playa dust), it's music, it's dancing, it's creativity, it's social satire, it's utopianism, it's the second largest city in Nevada for the one week it exists every year, it's a Brigadoon of free thinkers and freaks of all stripes, it's dragons breathing fire and social satirists and stiltwalkers and nobody is allowed to use money for anything (except for ice in the centercamp) and it's completely impossible to describe adequately since it's different for every person who is there.
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permalink #721 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 30 Jul 01 17:08
permalink #721 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 30 Jul 01 17:08
... and it's full of nice people who give novices helpful information. Thank you. :-) I will be there, and before we leave I'll send out a note asking (for the final time) where everyone will be, and I'll make an effort to stop by and introduce myself. But at night. During the day, I'm going to be hiding indoors, remembering why I moved out of Nevada the first time, hiding from The Evil Day Star and trying not to get The Worst Sunburn Ever. -Kelly ... who just did a double take and realized... THE John M. Ford? Who kicked Peter David from his spot as author of most enjoyed Trek novel? Uh, wow... 'scuz me while I be tongue tied for a bit.
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permalink #722 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 17:23
permalink #722 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 17:23
Oh, $#!+, was I taunting *another* author back there (#708-#710)?
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permalink #723 of 2008: Rebecca Atchison (nefertiti) Mon 30 Jul 01 17:26
permalink #723 of 2008: Rebecca Atchison (nefertiti) Mon 30 Jul 01 17:26
Fraid so, JaNell. He also did "Chain Home, Low" for the _Book of Dreams_, I looked it up. It's like a disease with you, isn't it?
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permalink #724 of 2008: JaNell, who's sure this would never have happened if Neil were around more... (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 17:35
permalink #724 of 2008: JaNell, who's sure this would never have happened if Neil were around more... (goldennokomis) Mon 30 Jul 01 17:35
(whimpers)
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permalink #725 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 30 Jul 01 18:10
permalink #725 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Mon 30 Jul 01 18:10
Nothing to whimper over, JaNell, nor fret or palely wossname. I've only been around a few days, and was just looking for a point of entry (after a few hundred messages, it seems like humming the Major General's song during the fourth movement of the Ninth). And, well, gosh,* thank you, Kelly. Which book was it? *Remember, "gosh," along with "golly" and "yclept," are words in danger of extinction. Fight the loophole of "scientific" spellchecking, and support serious research into logogenesis.
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