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permalink #1301 of 2008: Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Tue 11 Sep 01 09:43
permalink #1301 of 2008: Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Tue 11 Sep 01 09:43
I'm still waiting to hear from several family friends who work as pilots and flight attendents for American. In particular my mothers close friend who just finished flight school for them last month. For every person in DC and NY city that I hear is ok, I think of all those who aren't and it's difficult to feel the joy and relief I'd like to ...
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permalink #1302 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 11 Sep 01 10:24
permalink #1302 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 11 Sep 01 10:24
Fingers crossed for everyone.
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permalink #1303 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 11 Sep 01 11:10
permalink #1303 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 11 Sep 01 11:10
Neil, I am so very glad that Mike is fine, and wasn't on some bizarre field trip to the Pentagon. I imagine you won't be flying to Europe or anywhere very soon. Be well.
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permalink #1304 of 2008: JaNell with more first hand from Neil's NYC fans (goldennokomis) Tue 11 Sep 01 11:38
permalink #1304 of 2008: JaNell with more first hand from Neil's NYC fans (goldennokomis) Tue 11 Sep 01 11:38
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permalink #1305 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 11 Sep 01 11:40
permalink #1305 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 11 Sep 01 11:40
E-mail from Michaela: Um. I hope you lot are safe. I know there are hardly words that matter right now. I would just like to say that people here are watching and feeling with you. Michaela
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permalink #1306 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 11 Sep 01 11:48
permalink #1306 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 11 Sep 01 11:48
eeep. Just got the following email from one of the Bronzers: "My uncle was one of the Air Traffic Controllers in Boston working that 2nd plane - said pilot kept radio mike on - heard whole thing. Terrorist 'spoke perfect English,' told passengers 'we have many other planes under our control now, but don't fear, we will not hurt you.' This statement came about 20-30 min. before impact." I just felt sick when I read this. Just utterly sick.
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permalink #1307 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:29
permalink #1307 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:29
Oh. My. Fucking. God. I am... I am so sorry. For everyone. The ones suffering now, the ones waiting in agony to hear about those they love. Everyone whose lives will be forever changed by this. Which is all of us, really. I'm hearing Neil in my head: "America eats its future." I'm hearing _Terminator 2_: "It's in your nature to destroy each other." Everything will change. I'm so terrified about what our government will do. I'm terrified of the people standing in my office this morning, calling for the bombing of Palestine, ferchrissakes. I just want to throw up. Because nothing will change, too. We'll just go on eating ourselves. Only the menu changes. Sorry. I'm a dark mindplace. It just all seems so hopeless, sometimes. But then, I remember what happened here after the earthquake. How a complete stranger let me use her cell phone to call my parents in Illinois to let them know we were still alive. How people I'd never seen before and never saw again helped us get stuff out of our building before it collapsed even more. How neighbors who'd never spoken to them before made room for an elderly couple to stay for over a _week_ before their family members could come take care of them. And on and on... Dark and light. Light and dark. In endless rotation. And how does it go, Neil? Even a small (?) miracle is better than no miracle at all.
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permalink #1308 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:40
permalink #1308 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:40
Pamela: Look at it this way: If they wanted to scare us, they have. So we try not to give "them" what they want. If we're angry, then we don't do anything stupid in our anger. We use the energy that anger gives us to be compassionate. Take away everything that the people who did this might have to gain. Maybe we can't do much individually, but if every single individual does something--even if it's just something as simple as giving blood--then we take back part of what was taken from us. It won't bring back the dead, but at this point, it can help the living, right?
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permalink #1309 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:44
permalink #1309 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:44
Call your blood bank before you go in. Some are reporting they're swamped with donors right now. There'd been a nationwide blood shortage, so that's something. We can all just do anything we can to be human and civilized. Anything at all. Say hello to an Arab neighbor....
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permalink #1310 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:45
permalink #1310 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:45
Yes, and look at us: not rioting, not running over people to hide, not panicing. We're talking to each other, counting heads, planning, helping each other. Not, I'm sure, what whoever the evil thing that did this wanted or expected. (raises a one finger salute, each hand, at whoever did this)
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permalink #1311 of 2008: Angelina Venti (velvetraisin) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:48
permalink #1311 of 2008: Angelina Venti (velvetraisin) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:48
I feel so...overwhelmed. I'm not really comprehending any of this. All I feel is ill. My heart goes out to the victims, their families, their friends. And I send my love and positive energy to each and every one of you guys. We'll get through this. Angelina.
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permalink #1312 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:52
permalink #1312 of 2008: Len Schiff (theboojum) Tue 11 Sep 01 12:52
Hi all from Queens. Me and my loved ones are ok. Will, Neil, everyone else-- has Rocky posted?-- glad to hear same. Really scared, but had to keep cool in front of classes of kids, so that was a good thing.
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permalink #1313 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Tue 11 Sep 01 13:10
permalink #1313 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Tue 11 Sep 01 13:10
I'm quite glad you're all okay... Neil said: "the cell phone numbers I've been dialling are dead. " I went thru that this morning, trying to find my father. Dad travels a lot, and was due in (and out) of Boston this week. He flies both airlines involved... I found Dad after about 30 minutes of panic and tears; he's grounded in San Jose for the unknown future. It was pure relief... I'm so sorry that any of you are having to go thru similar, and I can only hope you have as happy ending as I did. My best wishes to you and your loved ones, -Kelly, with sorrow
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permalink #1314 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Tue 11 Sep 01 13:21
permalink #1314 of 2008: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Tue 11 Sep 01 13:21
JaNell: I'm standin' next to ya, sweetie, and stickin' 'em up, too. Tara and Martha: Thanks for the lines thrown out into the darkness in my head. I caught 'em. Tara: I'm so sorry about the air traffic controller friend. I can't even imagine the horror of that. May the dream mistress walk kindly through his sleep. Len! I'm so glad to hear from you! I wasn't sure, but I thought you were out that way. Are all your own safe and sound? Kelly: so glad about your dad.
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permalink #1315 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Tue 11 Sep 01 14:10
permalink #1315 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Tue 11 Sep 01 14:10
This is so horrible. I'm looking at footage on t.v. and thinking "I've been there, that's gone now". My mind has no words. I can only pray that it doesn't get worse. Such hurt. I wish I was shocked that it happened. I'm praying for you all. Hell, I'm praying for everyone.
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permalink #1316 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Tue 11 Sep 01 14:38
permalink #1316 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Tue 11 Sep 01 14:38
Most of the s-f fans I know have either reported in or been reported in safely in New York and Washington. My belief is that it's best for us not to dwell on the horror of the two plane crashes, although I grieve for those who passed on in the attack. I haven't watched any footage on TV. Been talking to people in my neighborhood, instead. San Francisco has basic services, although downtown businesses were evacuated. If Bush and the government use their heads, it may be that the terrorist group that launched the attacks will launch no more.
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permalink #1317 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Tue 11 Sep 01 14:50
permalink #1317 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Tue 11 Sep 01 14:50
There was just some sort of explosion in Dayton. They're saying (unconfirmed) a plane just crashed at the VA center about a mile away from the federal building here. Downtown has been closed all day, but I know that federal workers weren't completely evactuated here.
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permalink #1318 of 2008: Jinx (jinx) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:10
permalink #1318 of 2008: Jinx (jinx) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:10
I've gone and given blood, and so has my sister. This is an something that we as Americans have so little experience with that it's going to be difficult. I've found who I need to and am worried about friends I have. Neil, if it's any comfort, Andy's building is about 5 miles away. It's keeping me for now. The American Red Cross is looking for donations other then blood. Blankets and toothbrushes and the like. My generation has not ever experienced a great leader or a massive attack like this. I've been thinking all day about WWII and how the country pulled together. I would hope that this event can inspire something along these lines as well. I do honestly beleive in the power of the human spirt. Say hi to your neighbor, no matter what race/religion they are. Do something nice for someone you don't know. Try to remember that other people are not you, and do not have the opinions or values or morals you have. Life is hard enough without hatred. I won't sign this as I normally do, Jinx is not something that I'm going to be today. Tracey Carlson
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permalink #1319 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:12
permalink #1319 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:12
There's something going on in Afghanistan right now, some sort of explosions and missile fire... Trace, have you heard from Rocky or Margret, aren't they NYC?
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permalink #1320 of 2008: Tree--Tracking down her loved ones all over the world (jinx) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:40
permalink #1320 of 2008: Tree--Tracking down her loved ones all over the world (jinx) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:40
I've spoken to a friend of Rocky's and she is safe and sound on holidays in Sicily. I've still not heard from Lucy Anne though, and I would appreciate it if anyone could let me know if she is OK. Margret lives in Syracuse, if that is of any reassurance. My love, hugs and prayers go out to everyone, not matter where you are. Tree Who has no words for this. None at all.
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permalink #1321 of 2008: Jinx (jinx) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:42
permalink #1321 of 2008: Jinx (jinx) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:42
JaNell, Margret is in upstate NY and Rocky is supposedly on vacation according the newsgroup lore. Lucy Anne/Randi has a message on her e-mail that she's alright. I am actually proud in a way of our media, almost every channel has actually news on. There is no "entertainment" MTV, VH1, ESPN, and even QVC has either carried coverage, or put up a notice that due to the nation tragedy please tune into your local news station. This whole thing frightens the science fiction part of me, this is what starts most novels. Tracey
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permalink #1322 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:52
permalink #1322 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:52
back to #1298: the Tor offices are at the Flatiron building, which is a couple of miles due north of the WTC/Financial District. You can't really see the WTC from most windows there, but you can, or could, look straight down Fifth Avenue at it. Manhattan's a big place, more than twenty miles long, though it -is- dense. It is also on some of the hardest rock around; though it's not earthquake-proof, there is unlikely to be a chain of secondary collapses. If subway tunnels have not caved in -- and I've haard absolutely nothing to indicate that they have -- they are probably not going to. Considering that the WTC basement is a major subway nexus, this is good. Small comfort, but there it is. The latest I've heard is that the WTC and Salomon Brothers buildings (next door) have collapsed. I've got the BBC (America) World News on, which is in overtime. The news isn't really different, but it's a different rhythm from CNN, if you follow that.
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permalink #1323 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:54
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permalink #1324 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 11 Sep 01 15:55
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permalink #1325 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 11 Sep 01 16:04
permalink #1325 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 11 Sep 01 16:04
I'm glad to hear that about Rocky & Margret...
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