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permalink #1626 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 25 Sep 01 07:19
permalink #1626 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 25 Sep 01 07:19
Will -- I wouldn't trust Babelfish translations as far as I could throw them. And being largely made up of bits and bytes, they're a bit tough to get a good grip on. Just a warning. Rick -- I very nearly used that pseud myself. And welcome back! Noted in scifi.com's weekly newsletter that our own esteemed Mr. Gaiman will be participating in a chat there tonight, at 9pm eastern. See you there! Will -- bring that question with you!
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permalink #1627 of 2008: This is not my egg (extrinisic). (willentrekin) Tue 25 Sep 01 07:41
permalink #1627 of 2008: This is not my egg (extrinisic). (willentrekin) Tue 25 Sep 01 07:41
D'Oh! I'm never on line that late! Maybe, Neil, you could just answer it anyway...?
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permalink #1628 of 2008: Welcome to my world... won't you come on in... (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 08:17
permalink #1628 of 2008: Welcome to my world... won't you come on in... (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 08:17
<snicker>
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permalink #1629 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 25 Sep 01 08:42
permalink #1629 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 25 Sep 01 08:42
"je ne sais quoi" = "I do not know what" I'm having a whole "Le chat est sur la chais, la singe est sur la branch..." moments. And yes, my French sucks in that special way English speakers who try to speack French sucks. Don't ask about my Spanish... It's worse. Saw Eddie live in Chicago last year. WAY nifty. He was whacked out on cold medecine. Somehow, that meant we got twice the length of the normal first set. And I *so* want the Death Star caffeteria lady on tape. Haven't actually looked to see if that concert has been filmed yet tho. I imagine everything comes out eventually. And the audio performances are different nights than the videos, so the completest must own all... Or so my completist ex-roommate says :)
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permalink #1630 of 2008: This is not my egg (extrinsic) (willentrekin) Tue 25 Sep 01 09:04
permalink #1630 of 2008: This is not my egg (extrinsic) (willentrekin) Tue 25 Sep 01 09:04
I had to bring my own monkey. Monkeys are rather thin in the trees. And thin on the ground. Just generally rather svelte. But the monkey would just fuck off! I haven't seen any of Circles anywhere. Audio tape, CD, VHS, DVD (oh, man, I never even thought of that. Excuse me for a moment, while I slobber over the thought of the complete Eddie Izzard Box Set, complete with Circus and The Big Snog <wipes mouth>). And, you know, I would so wear the top he wore in Dressed to Kill. I'm not a transvestite, but, man, I think it'd be cool. I have to go now. Mon grand-mere est flambe.
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permalink #1631 of 2008: Tori Bat (jonl) Tue 25 Sep 01 09:20
permalink #1631 of 2008: Tori Bat (jonl) Tue 25 Sep 01 09:20
Email from Tori Bat: Why is it when my creativity kicks in~ my academic stuff drops and vice versa? is it how I think? or is it just that I'd rather be doing art than math or spanish? I'm torn because I want to take out my really blank journal and work but I have a Spanish exam tomorrow and a English quiz. and all I can think of is colors and messes! grr... ok I'm going to take care of some wash and then go work on Spanish for a while and then do some artwork! I think I can compromise. Will- I know for artists, I dont know if this is true for writers or not, since I'm not one...but I would *think* it would apply. that even if you're feeling dry and uncreative you're supposed to work on something no matter how it turns out. I have tried that...and it always just made me feel worse *laugh* so I dont practice that. but I'm sure the cycle will change for you and you'll be back writing another book! *HUGS* let me know how its going. ok I'm off to study Spanish... *HUGS* Tori Bat!
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permalink #1632 of 2008: c'est la pomme du terre (kellyhills) Tue 25 Sep 01 10:34
permalink #1632 of 2008: c'est la pomme du terre (kellyhills) Tue 25 Sep 01 10:34
... which has to be one of the oddest expressions I've ever leared. "This is life, this is war, this is a potato." Silly french. ;-) Tori Bat - right now I'm enamoured with two glitters. One is this glitter wand that I picked up from Hot Topic - it's a very thin gel that applies nicely to the eyelids, and I use it almost every time I put on makeup. Great for eyelids and lips. I also had this wonderful roll on glitter from, uhm, Rite Aid, I think. Kind of like roll on deodorant, but glitter. ;-) Unfortunately, I'm almost out and can't find anymore. *sob* I also picked up these little bottles of just glitter from Hot Topic, thinking that they'd last a week or two... it's the finest glitter I've ever had, cost all of $1.00, and with _liberal_ use I've barely dented the amount in the bottle. Amazing stuff! (I have blonde hair; I typically pull it up and then dust silver glitter all over my hair, work it thru, and get a great 'frosted' look... and the glitter also falls down to coat my face, arms, chest, etc. Convinient!) Er, maybe I should have used a glittery pseud... hehe. I think the depressed means a need to express is a wonderful saying! I've certainly found it true for myself; if I get depressed I need to express the feeling, work it out. If I don't, things slide to a slow halt. Lately I've found my own writing/creativity slowing down, but not because of a need to express. More because I've taken on a lot of technical writing at work, and I've found that saps my creativity just as much. Tech writing ain't easy, that's for sure... So a question for you all, with a bit of backup. I generally find I am most creative when listening to music - almost like it allows me to channel creativity. Some of my favourite groups to work to are Cowboy Junkies, Apoptygma Berzerk, Wolfsheim, Poe, Tori Amos, and BT. What about the rest of you? What triggers your creativity? (Authors included!) -Kelly
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permalink #1633 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 10:57
permalink #1633 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 10:57
Kelly: What triggers my creativity? 1) Seeing/reading/hearing something really well done. 2) Having any forum at all for stuff I write/make. 3) Having any time off at all from child care. I've always heard that depression is actually repressed anger that needs to be expressed. A sort of you can't/won't hit whomever or whatever is hurting you, so you take it out on yourself. Very likely in my case. But a wonderful therapist once described depression as a sort of cocooning... the end result being you come out of it renewed. I like that one, too.
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permalink #1634 of 2008: Ernie is my Muppet Totem (pamela-bird) Tue 25 Sep 01 11:12
permalink #1634 of 2008: Ernie is my Muppet Totem (pamela-bird) Tue 25 Sep 01 11:12
JaNell: Oh, no! I'm reliving the Bathroom From Hell moments, from when we first moved in to the house we're renting. We moved in during El Nino, and then discovered that there was no roof (just bare plywood) over the bathroom addition when waterfalls and playdough-looking lumps of ceiling plaster came tumbling down during the next rain. Three cheers for you in the battle with Mammon. "Gooooo... Fiiiight... Win!" <tries to do hurdle kick, falls down and hurts herself> Ow. >I'm beginning to suspect that Neil knows all of them on the list Neil-savoir-faire is everywhere. Of the last dozen books I've bought, there's been a Neil quote or connection for maybe a third of them. The other night I picked up a book totally at random (Storm Constantine) and I'm halfway through the quote on the back before I realize it's from Neil, too! Neil: Have you been extraordinarily busy reading other people's (s'?) books, lately, or has this been going on for a while and I'm just noticing now? How do you schedule all this in? Do you speedread? Do the authors request a quote/review, or the publishers? Erynn wrote: >You know how you read a boring book when you desperately want to >fall asleep? My life is that book. <Pam looks in mirror.> *sigh* ('Becca: You listening in? I'm thinking of you.) Totally random factoid: Recent newspaper article reveals that Bush's new chief speechwriter is the brother of an old friend. Met the guy, really nice. 'S a small, small, weird world. -Pam Je ne sais la coiffure, because I have no idea what to do with my hair right now.
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permalink #1635 of 2008: JaNell the Grouch (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 11:21
permalink #1635 of 2008: JaNell the Grouch (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 11:21
Pamela~Ernie? Are you being all subversive by openly living with another male "roommate" long past the danger age? Erynn, Pamela, ToriBat... there's too many parts of me spread out amongst y'all, and I want 'em back! You hear me? And that goes for Alanis Morrissete, too. Or I'll use my purse, yes I will, just ask Rebecca... the big tool-carrying one that even Eddie Izzard would envy.
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permalink #1636 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Tue 25 Sep 01 11:44
permalink #1636 of 2008: Lenny Bailes (jroe) Tue 25 Sep 01 11:44
Kelly, what triggered my creativity when I was doing coffee-house sketches in the '70s was songs from the Grateful Dead, (American Beauty, and Chinacat->Rider, in particular) and Traffic (Steve Winwood, Dave Mason). I'm not a great artist, but I recently decided I'd post one of those old '70s sketches on my website http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~lennyb/new.htm When I was writing songs in the '80s, I think it was mostly classic jazz and Windham Hill music, (Coltrane, Hubert Laws, Three Day Moon). In the '90s, I discovered groups like They Might Be Giants and Combustible Edison through coffee-house wait-people while writing non-fiction. I'd still recommend both of those groups. If you can find any of the old Traffic, Steve Winwood, and Dave Mason albums on CD (particularly Dave Mason's "Alone Together"), you might try listening. (I also listen to Mazzy Star, Liz Phair, Belinda Carlisle, and Natalie Merchant. Once in awhile, REM).
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permalink #1637 of 2008: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Tue 25 Sep 01 12:05
permalink #1637 of 2008: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Tue 25 Sep 01 12:05
It is finally time to retire "experience uncut Martha" now that I have this new beauty to try on.
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permalink #1638 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 25 Sep 01 13:57
permalink #1638 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 25 Sep 01 13:57
Pamela -- dunno. List the books and I'll try and tell you...
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permalink #1639 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Tue 25 Sep 01 14:22
permalink #1639 of 2008: Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Tue 25 Sep 01 14:22
Kelly -- I can't seem to locate the book at the moment, but one of my favourite books of French poetry contains a poem which translates to "If potatoes no longer grow in this earth, / On this earth we shall dance. / Such is our right and our frivolity." When it comes to creativity-inspiring background music, I usually go with REM or a film score.
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permalink #1640 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 25 Sep 01 14:22
permalink #1640 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 25 Sep 01 14:22
E-mail from Jo Simons: Hi again :) Will - I'd agree, Babelfish gives really dodgy translations. Try translating a sentence back and forth a few times, it gets really surreal. (Honestly I do have better things to do with my time ... really). Tara - My french isn't up to much either "Le poisson rouge ce sur le table" and "Avez vous des banan?" is about as far as I get anymore. It is fun though, occasionally understanding fragments of other people's conversations, like when you are sitting behind some tourists on the bus talking in a different language. Jo, who needs some better coffee
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permalink #1641 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Tue 25 Sep 01 15:49
permalink #1641 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Tue 25 Sep 01 15:49
JaNell: "I've always heard that depression is actually repressed anger that needs to be expressed. " Interesting. I've recently learned that anger is almost always a mask for hurting, for me. And so it would make sense that depression forms if it can't be expressed and exorcised. :-) -Kelly, listening with interest to everyones creative sparks
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permalink #1642 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 15:57
permalink #1642 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 15:57
No doubt. I have some scary deep wells of anger that I can never really express, hence the depression... but then, it's partially genetic as well.
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permalink #1643 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 16:09
permalink #1643 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 16:09
And I guess now's as good a time as any to say, y'all have no idea how much posting here has helped with all that. Thank you. Especially you, NeiLoki <hug>...
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permalink #1644 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Tue 25 Sep 01 19:23
permalink #1644 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Tue 25 Sep 01 19:23
Pfffh. You know, I wanted to go harass Neil at scifi.com, but it wouldn't let me in, noooo... *sniffle* I wanted to be a mini-JaNell. -Kelly, still at work and frustrated as hell
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permalink #1645 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 19:27
permalink #1645 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 19:27
Me, too. I tried JavaChat. I tried IRC. I switched computers, even I said "Hey" real nice & everything. Nope. Jinx & I even jointly asked questions... Nope. *sniff* leans over to Kelly for the start of a group hug 'n cry fest...
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permalink #1646 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 19:29
permalink #1646 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 19:29
He just doesn't love us! *sniff*
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permalink #1647 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 25 Sep 01 19:57
permalink #1647 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Tue 25 Sep 01 19:57
JaNell, your name was up on the side of the thing as someone who was at the conference. And I answered a Jinx question. Honest I did. Unless it was a different jaNell, and a different Jinx. but that way, as a wise man once pointed out, lies rump of skunk and madness.
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permalink #1648 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Tue 25 Sep 01 20:02
permalink #1648 of 2008: Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Tue 25 Sep 01 20:02
I just realized (probably again, I have the same realizations a lot) that the reason I post very sporadically is that since I am paying to post here, I want each post to be long and not totally silly. That and I'm convinced I suck. I can't decide if I should change this habit. Anyway... Tara - Happy belateds! Kelly - My only creative outlet is writing, and writing happens when... 1. I'm listening to good music, Radiohead more often than anything else. 2. I've just read something by Neil or come back from a signing. 3. I've just read or heard something wrong. 4. I've just managed to bully Luna into giving me a prompt. 5. I've got something else I should really be doing instead but really don't want to. 6. I'm talking to someone who is really depressed because then I feel the compulsion to write something silly to cheer them up. 7. Someone has set me a deadline. Love that pressure, no time to worry about each word and get stuck. Thankfully I don't need all seven at once. :-) On anger - I've always wanted to buy an old junked up car and a sledgehammer. I figure I could invite my friends over and we could just wail on it. Maybe paste on pictures of ex boyfriends and whatnot. I should probably move back to the country first though. But if I ever do, ya'll are invited. :-) Oh and hey Tori! Sorry I haven't been answering my email lately, I tend to look at my box and say "boy, that's a lot of messages" and then I go do other things. Jen, (who tried to think of a bad joke involving her name and the whole je ne sais quoi thing, but is too out of it.)
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permalink #1649 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 25 Sep 01 20:07
permalink #1649 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 25 Sep 01 20:07
Unfortunately for the untamed masses and fortunately for the interviewer and interviewee, every "famous person chat" I've ever attended on IRC has been moderated, to prevent exactly what occurred after they took the mod off. Skunk. Ugh. I was unpleasantly surprised yesterday to discover that the live trap we have set up to try to catch a groundhog that resides under our patio instead captured a fairly large skunk. $40 to the animal removalist just to let the thing go. Methinks I'll just deal with the groundhog, and pray that the skunks don't decide to den in for the winter.
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permalink #1650 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 20:17
permalink #1650 of 2008: JaNell (goldennokomis) Tue 25 Sep 01 20:17
Neil: Didn't say I couldn't get in eventually; just commiserating with Kelly that, even if she had gotten in, it was unlikely that she'd have gotten her questions passed on. Jinx & I were having problems, plus we wanted to hear you answer differant questions from the usual...
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