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Topic 116: New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
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New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
permalink #76 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 7 Jul 01 13:10
permalink #76 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 7 Jul 01 13:10
Martha -- well, in terms of whole interludes, one was cut (the Emperor of China), and two weren't written (the dybbuks in New York in the 1890s and the japanese internment camp in 1942). Scenes that were cut... well, there were quite a few. I chopped about 10,000 words from the finished version when it was done. And a few went shortly after writing them -- Jesus lasted about two days. It's a lovely scene, but just wrong.
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permalink #77 of 406: Rani (rani) Sat 7 Jul 01 14:03
permalink #77 of 406: Rani (rani) Sat 7 Jul 01 14:03
Neil -- so far the book has made me laugh out loud more times than I can count. But, I have a bit of a bone to pick with you. Mead is not disgusting! Or at least the stuff that I make is pretty darn good. Maybe Wednesday is just a horrible brewer.
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permalink #78 of 406: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 7 Jul 01 14:53
permalink #78 of 406: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 7 Jul 01 14:53
rani- Yes! Tee-hee! Well, I've had good meads and bad meads... Janell (and any other interested persons): Go to WWW.inanna.com/yggdrasil Sorry. I don't know no HTML so you may have to cut and paste. And Jesse (the silly question asker...well, maybe not silly, just misworded) found this: www.mimir.net/race/ratatosk.shtml The thing I love about this book is that it keeps on going forever even after you've finished it. My friends and I can't stop talking about it. ("did you catch this part?" "Oh hot digity that's cool!") I caught a lot of stuff the first read, but one read is just not enough. And Neil- Not that you need more compliments:P but I have to say that at least as long as I've known Jess he's never actually finished reading a novel. Imagine my surprise and delight to see The Book glued to his hands until he finished. And it will be, like, 2:00AM and he'll wake me up with some new epiphany he's had about it. Obviously you did something right. Dan- I have a theory about the Shadow/god thing, but in fear of sounding like an ass, I'm going to do some more reading and looking up things before I say anything.
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permalink #79 of 406: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 7 Jul 01 15:02
permalink #79 of 406: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Sat 7 Jul 01 15:02
oops. I mistyped the second link. It was supposed to be: www.mimir.net/races/ratatosk.shtml
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permalink #80 of 406: Maggie (missy-sedai) Sat 7 Jul 01 15:18
permalink #80 of 406: Maggie (missy-sedai) Sat 7 Jul 01 15:18
Mmmm...mead...yummy! I don't know that anyone should have a bone to pick with Neil about that - after all, it's Wednesday doing the complaining. Perhaps Wednesday, after these bazillions of years, is just *bored* with mead and now dislikes it?
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New York Times Bestselling Author Neil Gaiman: _American Gods_
permalink #81 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 7 Jul 01 17:38
permalink #81 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 7 Jul 01 17:38
I'm with Neil. I had mead at a ren faire with his friend Steve and I thought it was pretty vile. But, of course, it's not Neil thinking it's vile, it's the character. Neil, do you think you may write up the interludes you never did write up, someday?
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permalink #82 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 7 Jul 01 23:56
permalink #82 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 7 Jul 01 23:56
Rani -- I've had lovely mead over the years. And I've had some that tasted like sweet pickle juice... It's not that I really have anything against mead. It was just a much more fun scene to write if the mead was unpleasant. Erynn -- that's wonderful. Martha -- I doubt I'll ever write the jewish one, not as a coming to America. I'd be more likely to taake a few of the ideas and do it as a story about my own family in the east end of London. I remember an aunt trying to explain it to me, and saying "The bad thing was you'd come home from school, and someone else would have hanged themselves in the stairwell. It was the hunger. And the stairwell of the rothschild buildings was the only place where the ceiling was high enough." The Japanese one, on the other hand, is still in my head. I did a lot of research for it, too.
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permalink #83 of 406: JaNell (janell) Sun 8 Jul 01 07:12
permalink #83 of 406: JaNell (janell) Sun 8 Jul 01 07:12
Neil, not being either/or is fighting my natural inclinations, but I'll try. Maybe this has already been asked, over the years, but did/do you set out to create new mythologies? And please don't leave us hanging on the E. London teaser; I'd like to read that book.
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permalink #84 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 8 Jul 01 07:33
permalink #84 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 8 Jul 01 07:33
JaNell -- it shouldn't have to be a Zen exercise. Just an inclusive thing, like those multiple choice questions where the answer was all of the above. And sometimes the answer can shift, like the view, depending on where you"re standing. (Is a mouse a household pest or a cute beady-eyed pet?) On the story ... I dunno. I promise nothing on future stories: there are too many of them nudging to be written. Picking the next novel and starting it means that four other novels won't be being written, and the figure's more like a dozen when it comes to short stories.
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permalink #85 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 8 Jul 01 10:41
permalink #85 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 8 Jul 01 10:41
Good lord, Neil. That remark of your aunt's is chilling. I'll re-ask what JaNell just did, in a slightly different way, even though it's a question I'm sure you've been asked a thousand times: What's interesting to you about writing about mythologies, about borrowing from old mythologies and creating new ones?
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permalink #86 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 8 Jul 01 13:37
permalink #86 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sun 8 Jul 01 13:37
Martha, it's even more chilling when said by a very sweet old lady at a wedding. And mythologies... I've been asked that an awful lot in the last three weeks. Let me ponder it a little and see if I can come up with answer that's more satisfactory than "because I'm me and that's what i do". I wish I had a good pat answer. I suspect that some of the journalists who've asked me really want an origin story, of the "When I was eleven years old I was bitten by a radioactive mythology" sort. And I don't have one -- just a love of the stuff that goes back as far as I remember.
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permalink #87 of 406: -N. (streak) Sun 8 Jul 01 16:24
permalink #87 of 406: -N. (streak) Sun 8 Jul 01 16:24
Speaking of radioactive mythologies, how did you choose and create the new gods of America?
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permalink #88 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 8 Jul 01 21:19
permalink #88 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 8 Jul 01 21:19
Feel free not to answer the questions a thousand other people have asked you. Or to give an answer that has nothing to do with the question; I like that, too.
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permalink #89 of 406: JaNell (janell) Mon 9 Jul 01 03:25
permalink #89 of 406: JaNell (janell) Mon 9 Jul 01 03:25
"Feel free not to answer the questions...Or to give an answer that has nothing to do with the question..." Martha, please don't encourage him to do that; if I ask a question, it's because I really want to know, that I'm trying to understand some aspect of AG or of Neil himself, and I'm sure that's also true of most people who ask questions here. Taking time to answer a question is different, though, a compliment, and worth the wait; but why ask questions if you don't get answers? Very Zen exercise...
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permalink #90 of 406: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Mon 9 Jul 01 10:55
permalink #90 of 406: Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Mon 9 Jul 01 10:55
Neil, Best of luck on your UK tour. I notice you have four days of double signings coming up--ouch! I was wondering if The Book of Invasions played any part in the "research" composting for _AG_. I'm also really curious if the information Mr. Ibis gave Shadow about ancient incursions into the Americas was factual, legend, or a combination. For instance, the Ainu skull (over the land bridge?) and Polynesians in California sound plausible. Egyptians in America in 1500 BCE is pretty incredible. Hopi emergence tunnels?
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permalink #91 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 9 Jul 01 11:16
permalink #91 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 9 Jul 01 11:16
JaNell, all I can say is, as an interviewer, I'm interested in what Neil has to say, more than I am in my own questions. Often the questions I don't think to ask are going to be the most interesting. And I very much believe that, especially when it comes to creative issues, there often _are_ no straightforward answers. God knows I can't always give them. In which case, rather than battering my head on it, I'll go the roundabout way and see where that takes me. Isn't that what fiction is about? That's why fiction isn't essays. But, Neil: I instruct you to answer all JaNell's questions directly, while doing whatever you like with mine. There!
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permalink #92 of 406: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 9 Jul 01 11:55
permalink #92 of 406: Kelly (kellyhills) Mon 9 Jul 01 11:55
Hello again. :-) Neil,... I can be added to the list of the many, many people over the years who've asked you why you retell mythologies and other stories in your own work... I cornered you about this at a convention many moons ago, and you actually answered. I hope you don't mind if I share the answer you gave me (tho it might have changed since then); it stuck with me and actually had an impact in how I write, how my other draws, etc. Suppose it opened a new way of looking at things for us... you said that all the stories have already been told, somehow, somewhere... and that all you did was retell it again, in a modern way, in modern senses, and that you fully expected someone to retell your own stories years down the road. Of course, the delivery of it helped an awful lot - you were signing Good Omens and looked up at me, tapping the pen against your cheek and leaving a small inkmark in the process. ;-) I'm thinking of sitting down and rereading AG already, but am currently in the middle of "Love and Awakening" ... quite good book in itself. That, and needing to pack and move... hmm. Oh, I did have a question about Bilquis - what made you decide she was a goddess? :-) Cheers! -Kelly
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permalink #93 of 406: Jesse (erynn-miles) Mon 9 Jul 01 13:18
permalink #93 of 406: Jesse (erynn-miles) Mon 9 Jul 01 13:18
Neil- I was just wondering if the "storm" represents or symbolizes the Ragnorak in any way?
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permalink #94 of 406: Jesse (erynn-miles) Mon 9 Jul 01 13:30
permalink #94 of 406: Jesse (erynn-miles) Mon 9 Jul 01 13:30
JaNell-I agree...
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permalink #95 of 406: Rebecca (nefertiti) Mon 9 Jul 01 13:55
permalink #95 of 406: Rebecca (nefertiti) Mon 9 Jul 01 13:55
Jesse, to which event I was hamhandedly referring earlier. In any case, do tell, Neil, please. Is Wednesday working (consciously or un-so) within his pantheon's framework (as far as large catastrophic events go), or is this something else entirely, a new all-American catastrophic event? Oh no, another either/or question, we're likely to get a koan. ;)
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permalink #96 of 406: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 9 Jul 01 13:59
permalink #96 of 406: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 9 Jul 01 13:59
Neil - re: your comment about "it all being in there." Yes, you said that about Murder Mysteries too, but I didn't *get it* until I heard it on sci-fi.com. So whenever you say that it's all in there, I rather feel like I've missed something terribly important. Fortunately... I've got some folks trying to help me see the light on the disputed question of Shadow's divinity via e-mail. Something was pointed out to me that I had forgotten... something that was all in there... and that was the final interaction with Sam. This is probably "something terribly important", isn't it?
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permalink #97 of 406: JaNell (janell) Mon 9 Jul 01 14:19
permalink #97 of 406: JaNell (janell) Mon 9 Jul 01 14:19
Martha, Thank you, you now have a fan for life and I will relentlessly pimp your work every where I go... Neil, you heard Martha, and To Hear Is To Obey. Email and in person questions ARE included and I'm right now regretting that I don't have a doozy of a question about AG handy. So there. :P Rebecca, I suspect that, at least in Shadow's case, it is a predetermined, ritualistic set-up. The war itself? Yes, probably, but certainly with new players - notice which pantheons are smart enough not to get sucked in?
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permalink #98 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 9 Jul 01 14:32
permalink #98 of 406: Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 9 Jul 01 14:32
Offer only good through the course of this official interview! And remembering that direct answers might just not be as satisfying as you hoped. A lot of writers probably couldn't even answer as many questions as Neil can. A lot goes on in putting a story together, and it isn't all on the surface of the author's brain. Now, Neil has a very large brain with a lot of stuff in it, years of reading and research and thought, so you're pretty lucky with him. Writers are also like other people and have private areas, when you're asking them about themselves. There are any number of questions I'd have liked to ask Neil over the last six eight years that I never have.... This is Neil's interview, though, so he probably should have said his version of all of the above, which would be much wiser and more cogent than mine of course.
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permalink #99 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Mon 9 Jul 01 15:54
permalink #99 of 406: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Mon 9 Jul 01 15:54
JaNell but why ask questions if you don't get answers? Thats a question, isnt it? Because the act of asking the question by itself teaches you things. Ive never felt that answers were the real province of the writer; better questions, on the other hand, certainly are. Pamela oh, everything has some kind of basis in fact or hypothesis although the Hopi Emergence Tunnels are only part of Hopi Lore. The Scientific American article on all the embarrassing skulls (and the native american fight to claim and bury them) was from around February 2000. The Egyptian stuff is a hypothesis, but less far-fetched than youd imagine: the copper mined from the northern wisconsin mines may have traveled to the mediterranean, and there is some interestingly dubious evidence that there was south american trade going on in the shape of coca leaf residue in an egyptian mummy things Im less concerned in tracing the veracity of than in delighting in for the purposes of the book. Martha not a problem (look! I answered JaNells question above! Such power must be used only for good.) Kelly True things, but Im not sure that answers the whole WHY mythology thing satisfactorily. As for Bilquis theres a lot of Islamic Lore and legend about the Queen of Sheba, in which, if shes not a goddess, shes the next best thing (as the daughter of a demon). It seemed appropriate. Dan -- and where would have been the pleasure for you in Murder Mysteries if I'd spelled it all out for you?
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permalink #100 of 406: JaNell, finally defeated by Neil... for now. (janell) Mon 9 Jul 01 18:08
permalink #100 of 406: JaNell, finally defeated by Neil... for now. (janell) Mon 9 Jul 01 18:08
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