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Topic 125: The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
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The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
permalink #1526 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Fri 25 Jan 02 15:27
permalink #1526 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Fri 25 Jan 02 15:27
Martha - I don't know... I've heard that building up a resistance to iocane poweder can be useful. Of course, it's both odorless and tasteless....
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permalink #1527 of 2008: poking the ladyfingers in the notice board (abbess) Fri 25 Jan 02 15:54
permalink #1527 of 2008: poking the ladyfingers in the notice board (abbess) Fri 25 Jan 02 15:54
Ok. Good. There is an FAO Schwarz in Boston, and it's not in Harvard Square (besides, Harvard Square isn't in Boston, but that's nitpicking.) No more sudden weird changes creeping up on me, at least not from here, yay.
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permalink #1528 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Fri 25 Jan 02 16:01
permalink #1528 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Fri 25 Jan 02 16:01
Dan, i was three seconds away from writing that exact quote when i looked up and realized you had already written it. fughgufghfhf.
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permalink #1529 of 2008: Jade Walker (maidenfate) Fri 25 Jan 02 20:10
permalink #1529 of 2008: Jade Walker (maidenfate) Fri 25 Jan 02 20:10
>>a resistance to iocane poweder can be useful. Of course, it's both odorless and tasteless....>> LOL. Hail, my fellow Princess Brideans! Jade
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permalink #1530 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 25 Jan 02 23:52
permalink #1530 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 25 Jan 02 23:52
Mike -- well, they renamed MARATHON bar to SNICKERS bar, but I don't believe they've swapped the mars/milky ways over. It would confuse people, and negate 50 years of branding. The big question is why did they swap them in the beginning...? Kelly (and all) when I was a boy, one Xmas holiday my family stayed at a hotel in Braemar, Scotland, filled with strange and beautiful semi-abstract paintings, done by an elderly white-bearded painter who lived in a room in the hotel and sold his paintings, and painted. His paintings were all of music. "There was a man here last week," he said, "who said I was mad. he said, 'they're just colours. How can you say this painting is a Mozart concerto? Why, you could say anything. I could say that this painting here is meant to be Peer Gynt!'So I told him to look at the label underneath, and he did, and it said it was Peer Gynt. He didn't say anything after that." Martha -- (grin) Dan Guy -- Maddy is 7, and a budding (possibly even a sprouting) violinist. I'm amazed at the way she learns stuff. (Her grandparents didn't realise she read music for a while, as she'd just play.) Bill -- yup. High on the list of things I don't have time to do this year. But astonished by the outpouring of affection and support from strangers coming in.
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permalink #1531 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 26 Jan 02 00:12
permalink #1531 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 26 Jan 02 00:12
Actually, swift google research indicates that an english Milky Way is a US 3 Musketeers, while a US Milky Way is a UK mars. (A US Mars isn't anything in the UK.)
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permalink #1532 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sat 26 Jan 02 00:43
permalink #1532 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sat 26 Jan 02 00:43
Well, after my own show tonight, I drove over to the City for the opening night party for the latest C.A.F.E. show and chatted with friends and with the cast. I found it very interesting that both of the ladies in A Defense of the Social Contracts talked about working through a lot of issues while working on the piece, and that they'd been doing a lot of evaluating of relationships.. both old and current ones. This is interesting because the lead in Arbitrary Placement of Walls said the very same thing. It seems to be impossible to act in a Martha Soukup story without doing some hard-core processing about romantic relationships and issues of self-esteem. Brava, Martha... I can't think of a higher compliment. Your writing truly does cause people to struggle with themselves. I was also delighted to learn that the director made the actors read the entire collection of your work, Martha, as homework. I'm looking forward to actually seeing the show on the 15th, which is the only night I can make it. Martha - when are you going again???
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permalink #1533 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 26 Jan 02 00:59
permalink #1533 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sat 26 Jan 02 00:59
Um, I don't know, stagewalker, we haven't worked it out. Probably I owe them e-mail? My lord, the poor actors. You rarely have to read an entire book just to perform in one short one-act play. (Did they have to buy it?) (I'd have awfully mixed feelings about that--sales, oh good--actors are poor--) Is a UK Mars a US Milky Way Dark?
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permalink #1534 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Sat 26 Jan 02 01:31
permalink #1534 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Sat 26 Jan 02 01:31
I think the Marathon/Snickers transformational grammar must have been what I was thinking of. More Freely Disassociative Anecdotes Dept.: Just after the interval of "Singer" (a play that fictionalizes the life of camp=survivor-turned-London-slumlord Peter Rachman), Singer sits on the edge of the stage, which is about to hold a performance of an experimental play, and buys a bag of Maltesers, which he shares with the audience. (There's a line about "I hope this isn't going to be one of those audience-participation things.") When I saw it, with Antony Sher in the role, a number of people up front seemed to be afraid of what they were being offered -- chocolate-covered falcons or Webley-Fosbery bullets (though they don't make 'em any more) something? (For anyone out of the loop, malted milk balls.) Oh, and thank you, Tara. Hugs always appreciated, as is laughter, with or without nasopharyngeal hydraulic effects.
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permalink #1535 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 26 Jan 02 07:37
permalink #1535 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 26 Jan 02 07:37
Dan -- I'd only be impressed if he made them learn the martha soukup poem off by heart as well.
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permalink #1536 of 2008: Daniel (dfowlkes) Sat 26 Jan 02 08:11
permalink #1536 of 2008: Daniel (dfowlkes) Sat 26 Jan 02 08:11
<scribbled by dfowlkes Tue 3 Jul 12 10:14>
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permalink #1537 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sat 26 Jan 02 08:59
permalink #1537 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Sat 26 Jan 02 08:59
Martha - I think they had to buy it, as before this I was the only one who owned a copy. I do recall telling the director and one of the actors (who had expressed interested in the book earlier) that they could get it from Dreamhaven. And I'm sure that Matt and Berta would be delighted to hear from you. They mentioned that they hadn't heard from you, and I told them to email you. Then to email you again. And then again. *grin* They were pretty toasted, though, so I don't know if they'll remember the conversation this morning. I hope you can make it on the 15th, though. I'd love to talk with you about the adaptation afterwards. (hrm... maybe that's a disincentive for you.... if so, forget I said that and I'll spring it on you later...) Neil - *slow whistle* You're a hard man to impress. *sudden thought* Maybe I should suggest it to the cast and they can sing it to her when she comes to the show! (Martha, you didn't hear me just suggest that... you are blissfully unaware of my evil....)
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permalink #1538 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Sat 26 Jan 02 10:20
permalink #1538 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Sat 26 Jan 02 10:20
This has nothing to do with anything, but I thought it was very amusing: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1320933653
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permalink #1539 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 26 Jan 02 11:33
permalink #1539 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 26 Jan 02 11:33
E-mail from Michaela: Hi all :) I just read that funny marmite article in the NY times. Thanks for pointing it out! I actually love marmite, so I am a counterexample to the theory that a) only British people like it or b) you have to exposed to it by the age of 3 to like it. I spent a few months in York a few years ago and a Scottish girl living next to me in the students’ house used to eat it on toast.. At first I was taken aback at the smell and the looks of the stuff. But I kept trying and it really grew on me. I make sure always to have a glass of marmite here, though I have to find shops selling British stuff to buy it. Neil: Twiglets are awesome. I simply adore them. They taste subtler than marmite (no surprise) and they are always gone too fast. Is there any way of ordering them on the internet? So far no twiglets are being exported to Germany. sigh. Introducing people to twiglets is way easier than trying to make them understand why you like marmite btw – so maybe bring Martha some twiglets instead of marmite ;) re chocolate bar names: a few years ago, the chocolate bar known as _Raider_ has been renamed _Twix_ in Germany. I guess that nowadays they like to have the same name in different countries because they can show the same commercials with different voice overs on television. Or whatever. Btw: the warranty is paying for a new engine for our car. Phew. We still have to pay for some of it, but not that much. I am SO glad. Michaela
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permalink #1540 of 2008: Jinx the really real one this time (jinx) Sat 26 Jan 02 11:39
permalink #1540 of 2008: Jinx the really real one this time (jinx) Sat 26 Jan 02 11:39
(remembered from memory as I am a huge dork and managed to delete and entire message) Hi all,...it's been awhile but my net time has dropped off slightly as of late, lots of running and good things and lots less time on my hands. Tara, well, welcome to the club. I'm glad you involved the police, they did "get it" right, e-mail and all? As for seeing words as color, I don't music yes,...words, I'm almost embarrassed to say I see in fonts. Always have, I used to get into trouble for my handwritting in school, cause I'd alter it to what I saw it as. Maure~ The e-bay link was lovely and exactly the reason I no longer deal with the thing :shudders: I had to for a job for quite some time, and was amazed at people, even working in comics was never the lesson dealing with e-bay was. But then there was the casino,.........:sigh: So far I've been lucky with my local grocery, it has a huge foreign foods department, and since my bratchilde of a sister works there I've been able to put a bug in the ordering managers ear. I've found everything but Tim Tams, including good tea, outstanding candy and really odd jams and jellies that I don't eat but the mother unit is fond of. Let's see, it was an odd week of the strange luck that fallows me around. My mothers surgery that was supposed to be extreamly intrusive and have a hospitial recovery time of 3 to 7 days, went wonderfully, and she was home in 24 hours, my car doesn't work and is in the shop, the new b/f's mother likes me, and said that it was about time he'd picked a good one when I warmed the pot for tea the other afternoon. She's from Scotland and it's the most wonderful thing to hear her yell at the b/f to take out the garbage. LOL Jinx without car, but with Muppets,....there always is a silver lining.
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permalink #1541 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Sat 26 Jan 02 13:16
permalink #1541 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Sat 26 Jan 02 13:16
I see everything the way most people do, I think. No special colors or tunes or anything, unless they are supposed to be there. I have connotations and associations for everything, of course, which colors any word (or color, or music, or taste, or texture, or anything) with which I am presented, but that's all. I love knowing that some people hear colors or see words, though. It reminds me that if I *could* smell what I know of the world, it'd probably smell mulchy and heavy and dense and delicious, like Fall. The only real jealousy I have is of skilled musicians, be they trained traditionally or naturally talented. I'm only jealous of them while they are not playing, though, because as soon as they play, I forget that I'm jealous and just listen. I played violin for a year, was horrible enough to my own ears that I broke the bridge on purpose, and refused to pick it up ever again. I was better with saxophone, but stopped playing when the school made me choose between singing or playing. It is cruel, I think, to make people choose between choir and band. Especially because at the time, there was no way for me to take private lessons - school was my only option then. C'est la vie. I think I love listening to music more than I loved to make it, anyway. Michaela, good news about your car! Jinx, great news about your Mom!! Uncle Ned emailed me this morning to let me know that the episode he is on is actually on Law & Order SVU. The title is "Popular," and the episode number is E2329. He didn't tell me when he expects it to run, though.
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permalink #1542 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 26 Jan 02 23:06
permalink #1542 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 26 Jan 02 23:06
Dan Guy -- she's been playing for about 6 months now. She's into Suzuki Book 2, and is -- to my ears, for a 7 year old -- really good. And more than that, she enjoyes playing it and practising. It helps that Lorraine, my assistant, is a fiddle player and that they duet every chance they get. Everyone is going down with flu (even Mike phoned from University to ask if I'd make Chicken Soup, freeze it and send it to him. I said no, and that he should find a good jewish Deli and get some there) so I had Maddy for the day. I am hoping that it passes over me: I don't have the time to be sick right now. My commiserations to anyone out there who's fluing presently. Lots of helpful e-mails and suggestions from people nominating libraries & universities. Michaela -- that's probably why they made Marathon into Snickers. Maure -- I know what you mean about musicians. I watch maddy reading music with more comfort and ease than I did in 5 years as a pathetic double bass player (age 9-14) and sigh...
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permalink #1543 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 26 Jan 02 23:15
permalink #1543 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Sat 26 Jan 02 23:15
I heard from Lorraine that Pete Rawlik (the bookseller with the hardback Duran Duran for sale) (Jinx and Tree & most of the other thingies about will remember Pete, who ran the florida con)is in the process of selling it, for the $1500 asking price, to a Duran Duran fan who treasured it in paperback and whose copy long ago fell apart... Somehow I felt much better knowing it was going to a Duran Duran fan.
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permalink #1544 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 27 Jan 02 12:20
permalink #1544 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 27 Jan 02 12:20
That's nice. Maddie is fabulously lucky to have such a mentor right at hand. And me, I'm glad I went out and got a flu shot last fall.
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permalink #1545 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 27 Jan 02 13:08
permalink #1545 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 27 Jan 02 13:08
I did, too, but it didn't stop this whatever it is from knocking me on my butt a couple of weeks ago. A virus, evidently, not a flu, which allowed a secondary bacterial lung infection to invade. And it's going around.
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permalink #1546 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 27 Jan 02 13:10
permalink #1546 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 27 Jan 02 13:10
E-mail from Michaela: A propos outrageous prices for collectors’ items: Today I was lucky! Big happy smile. I just bought a first edition HC of _A Game of You_ for 13,50 Euro on ebay Germany :)) Plus the nice Swiss guy also had some of the original single comics for sale, (I asked him whether he had some more Neil stuff he didn’t want..), including the two Death mini series and several Sandmans, (including the Number One I did’t buy when I saw it somewhere for 12 Euro) .. YaY !! And the price was totally reasonable, not more than I would have paid when they were first published. I guess this comes of selling them in Europe and not in the US where the stuff on ebay regularly fetches more than I am willing to pay. Normally I don’t even look for Neil stuff on ebay Germany because there is not much to be got. Sorry about my posts turning out slightly garbled. I have this theory: if you do not have the money to afford a well account (or if you have not figured out how to persuade your husband that it is something essential to your well-being), then you have some email postings free, which turn out fine, and after a while some characters are translated as nonsense character combinations. This probably goes on until all I can say here is something like aldsfhwaeoeigaPPUEpfa#.. but then it might just be coincidence .. until I have figured it out I will just try to avoid apostrophes and hyphens ... Michaela
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permalink #1547 of 2008: Daniel (dfowlkes) Sun 27 Jan 02 15:16
permalink #1547 of 2008: Daniel (dfowlkes) Sun 27 Jan 02 15:16
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permalink #1548 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 27 Jan 02 23:58
permalink #1548 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Sun 27 Jan 02 23:58
E-mail from Jouni: Hi Neil and others. Been far too busy for the past 4-5 months (meaning that I haven't had much time to read the topic either), but decited to drop by. Had FINALLY time to go and see Lord Of The Rings with my wife (it's not so simple when the nearest relative/friend who could babysit a six month old boy is about 200 kilometers away). Loved it!... and naturally I had to start reading the book all over AGAIN. Also found a cool website called 'The Tolkien Archives' ( www.tolkien-archives.com ) that has all kind of cool stuff about... well, you know... about Tolkien. So I was browsin' around The Essays -section and happened to read one called Tolkien's Not-So-Secret Vice by Helge K. Fauskanger. Here's a short quote: '...But there were more pleasures in store for young Tolkien. One day he found...a Finnish grammar!!! He soon found himself in phonaesthetic ecstasy. "It was like discovering a complete wine-cellar filled with bottles of an amazing wine of a kind and flavour never tasted before. It quite intoxicated me" (The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien p. 214). High on Finnish he scrapped his latest project ("make your own Germanic language"), for now he had found more powerful inspirations.' In a way it's understandable. I mean you have to admit (especially after the following 'taste from the cellar') that finnish IS a damn peculiar language: - Kokootko koko kokon? (Translation: - Would you build the whole bonfire?) - Koko kokonko? (Translation: - The whole bonfire?) - Joo, koko kokon. (Translation: - Yes, the whole bonfire.) ....Yup! That's pretty elfish dialoque, don't you think. Neil -- (or anybody who knows better than me) What's up with Coraline? When is it goin' to be out... Jouni (gotta go now)
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permalink #1549 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Mon 28 Jan 02 08:50
permalink #1549 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Mon 28 Jan 02 08:50
JOuni -- Coraline comes out from Harper Childrens books in September, from Bloomsbury Books (without illustrations) in August, and we will probably release a recording of me reading it in late spring or early summer... Someone e-mailed me the other day to ask if I was the same Neil Gaiman that Christopher Tolkein thanks in the notes to one of the books of compiled stuff, which is my one claim to LOTR fame. An astonishingly small one, and one I'd completely forgotten about.
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permalink #1550 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Mon 28 Jan 02 08:51
permalink #1550 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Mon 28 Jan 02 08:51
Michaela -- congratulations! Linda -- get well.
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