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Topic 125: The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
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permalink #1926 of 2008: Daniel (dfowlkes) Thu 14 Mar 02 06:30
permalink #1926 of 2008: Daniel (dfowlkes) Thu 14 Mar 02 06:30
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permalink #1927 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 14 Mar 02 07:34
permalink #1927 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 14 Mar 02 07:34
By the way, the journal blogger is currently down, over at Neilgaiman.com -- I'm trying to catch up on some FAQs (as that's still working).
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permalink #1928 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 14 Mar 02 09:16
permalink #1928 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 14 Mar 02 09:16
Happy anniversary, Neil! Since it's also my birthday, I now will never forget your anniversary. Happies to both of us! Maure - I'm so sorry. %^( So, it looks like we have arrived at a consensus of sorts: Neil Gaiman and His Goldfish Swapmeet?
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permalink #1929 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 14 Mar 02 09:16
permalink #1929 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 14 Mar 02 09:16
E-mail from Jouni: About the hypnotists (Is that a real word?) -- I was just wondering how do you become one? I mean is there a school of some sort for hypnotists? ('Morning kids. Today we are going to hypnotize a person into believing he's a chair. Harvey?... OK, whoever is making Harvey do that, snap him out of it. That's disgusting...) About the new topic -- It would be pity if the conversation would end now. If I'm allowed (even though I'm just a wannabe Weller...) to suggest a name for the new topic, it would be something like... 'The barking lot - a meeting place for Neil and the mob' Jouni
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permalink #1930 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Thu 14 Mar 02 10:09
permalink #1930 of 2008: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Thu 14 Mar 02 10:09
Erynn and others - Good point about the name thing. I cast another vote for Mad Mike's suggeston of Neil Gaiman Goldfish Swapmeet Although, having almost lost my dad to a major heart attack this last year, I think that I'll not put him up for swap for even two *hundred* goldfish. Jade - take my silence for the respect it is, and not for non-acknowledgement Neil - Happy Anniversary. Congratulations. Linda - Happy Birthday! In other natterings: I finished reading Startdust yesterday to the person I'm currently dating and she loved the story and especially the ending, which made her happy and sad at the same time. We also watched my friend's copy of Eddie Izzard: The Definite Article, which he had converted from PAL to NTSC. All his other Izzard videos are still in PAL, so they can only be watched in his living room. I liked it, but I see why people say that his diction has gotten much better over the years.
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permalink #1931 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Thu 14 Mar 02 10:25
permalink #1931 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Thu 14 Mar 02 10:25
Neil -- Re Terry's poem: wherever you are, you are very tired, causing you to gravely mistype NOW WE ARE SICK, right? But happy anniversary at any rate. I should probably riff on stumbling late into a Japanese restaurant and ending up next to a wandering Voltaire ("I disagree with this salmon-skin roll, but I will defend to the death my right to eat it, even if I never said any such thing," or some similar wossname), but, well, it would only inspire Longfellow to come over here. For it snows on my apartment, by the poorly lighted Lyndale, slick and lightly sanded Lyhdale, and all these expiring goldfish might inspire him to a bouillon (yes, a smoothly piscine bouillon), and he'd come a-softly knocking, like that other melancholic, just to borrow cubes of Maggi, that the soup stock might be sturdy, with some leeks and orrichetti. But I suppose everyone's having a day like that.
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permalink #1932 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 14 Mar 02 10:32
permalink #1932 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Thu 14 Mar 02 10:32
I know I am.
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permalink #1933 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 14 Mar 02 14:20
permalink #1933 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 14 Mar 02 14:20
Mike. Re Now We Are Sick. Argh. Yes, that was what I meant to type but didn't. And that felt more like Poe than Longfellow. (And more like Cabellian "contrapuntal prose" than either.) Everybody I know is having one of those days. If the work wasn't going so well, I'd be having one of those days too, but it suddenly moved into fourth gear and the world is a good one...
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permalink #1934 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Thu 14 Mar 02 15:37
permalink #1934 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Thu 14 Mar 02 15:37
Jade, the last time I was in the WTC was to pay my rent - my landlord worked for Putnam Publishing, and if I was too late to send the check, I'd run it over there to leave it for him. Sometimes I think about how bothersome it was for me to go there, and how much it irritated me. And then there's this ugly ache, because I'd spend every day of the rest of my life being irritated by the subway trip there to have it and all of those people back, if a trade like that could be made. Neil, hmmm. I'm afraid that bit of poem brought me chuckles, not comfort. Most of the time that's what I prefer, anyway, so thank you for reciting it. It would have made a fitting elegy when I tempted fate by flushing my poor Ru. I was sure she was too big to go through, but had no idea what else I could do with her. Somehow she was spared the final indignity of being the cause of the toilet overflowing. Thank goodness. With that charming image, I wish you a very happy anniversary. Linda, thank you very much for your sympathy. I'm actually having a marvelous day. It is just beautiful outside, and everything seems to be going so well. Today one of my fifth graders was (as usual) digging around in the heap on my desk, and he found my CBLDF card. Immediately, the kids wanted to know what it meant, defending comic books. I told them that I am a member of an elite international network of defenders of comic books. "Why do you have to defend comic books?" he asked. They expect me never to tell the whole truth, so I met their expectations and explained that comic books are delicate things, and that sometimes a brutish thug will treat his abusively, at which time I step in to take the comic book away from him and give him a sound thrashing. The kids thought this was marvelous, and want to be members of the CBLDF too. Tomorrow we learn about the trial of John Peter Zenger, so I think I'll explain the true purpose of the CBLDF then. Nearly perfect timing, actually.
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permalink #1935 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Thu 14 Mar 02 21:44
permalink #1935 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Thu 14 Mar 02 21:44
Neil --Happy Anniversary! Congratulations to you (and your wife!) Linda--Happy Birthday! <<sings>> And many mooore! Maure--Very sorry about Rusalka. Terri--*love* the jokes. The first time I went to Ireland we stayed in Clontarf for the first few days. There's a restaurant on the Clontarf Road, Fisherman something-or-other, where I had the most amazing grilled salmon..... Just sat in a rather good fake pub, downstairs at the Fitzpatrick Hotel, and listened to a trio play traditional. If there hadn't been so many Americans talking at the top of their lungs (we are a *loud* bunch) I might almost have thought we were in Dublin. It was a work function, but a good time. The hotel's lovely, and the people that work there are delightful. Must go back to studying geometry & algebra. Mike--hee-hee. It's ....snort...ha-ha....that was.....hee-hee. This is basically what I sound like after one of your posts. It reminded me of Poe as well, but now I'm trying to remember Hiawatha in my head. <<goes off chuckling, muttering Gitchiegoomee >>
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permalink #1936 of 2008: An Unholy Passion For Grammar (erynn-miles) Thu 14 Mar 02 23:33
permalink #1936 of 2008: An Unholy Passion For Grammar (erynn-miles) Thu 14 Mar 02 23:33
Maure- I'm sorry about Rusalka also:( And thanks for the crossing of fingers. Neil- I don't think anyone minds when you fall off the Earth for a few weeks, especially after reading about everything that you're working on. I, for one, didn't expect you to say much of anything when I first joined here, so when you said: "Hi Erynn, welcome to The Well..blah, blah." I nearly melted. I would have been forever content if that's all you'd ever said to me. But then, I'm a geek. Happy Anniversary! Jouni- Yes, it's a real word. I have no idea how they do it. I'm going to the library this weekend to check out some books. After that show, I felt lightheaded and entertained...but there was this dull, heavy feeling in the pit of my stomach as well. So I did what any weird person would do: when I got home, I jotted down a rough story outline. I'm about four pages into the story so far. The idea of a hypnotist abusing his powers and corrupting the world while traveling with a circus, and a nine year old boy trying to stop him; it all grabbed me that night, for some reason. So I'm gonna go with it and see where it takes me. Linda- Happy Birthday! Jade- That's eerie. I can't even begin to imagine the feeling.... On a completely different note: You're friends with Voltaire?! That's *so* cool! Mary- Good luck! I vote for the Goldfish Swapmeet title. It makes me laugh.
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permalink #1937 of 2008: Terri O'Leary (xmorpheus) Fri 15 Mar 02 04:07
permalink #1937 of 2008: Terri O'Leary (xmorpheus) Fri 15 Mar 02 04:07
Maure - my condolences hon :( the Pratchett book in question - if my memory serves and frankly it's been a bit unreliable lately - is Reaper Man - which features my 2nd favourite incarnation of Death (no prizes for guessing my ultimate fave ;) No doubt I'll be corrected fairly quickly if I'm wrong! :) Neil - I'm sure we could persuade customs to let you in, disreptuable though you are.....Oh and: Q. How can you tell when a northsider is having an orgasm? A. She drops her chips... ;) And many happies too :) Oh and what's coraline? Mary - Clontarf is Northside too - but the posh bit by the sea. If you're over again, try and make it to Johnny Foxes - they do GREAT seafood! I have Eddie Izzard's lip print hanging on my wall. Uuuummmm yesssss - true story! Happy St. Patrick's Day folks :)
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permalink #1938 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Mar 02 06:52
permalink #1938 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Mar 02 06:52
Terri -- well immigration in Ireland always let me in very doubtfully. Coraline is a novel for gravely disturbed young ladies of all ages and genders which will come out in June on Audio, July as a book in the US and August in the UK (and I suppose Ireland)although the UK version isn't illustrated. Audio book music by The Gothic Archies, a Stephin Merritt incarnation. And because it made me smile, this was forwarded to me by my editor at harper Childrens -- it was an e-mail they got from a rep named Richard Starke after he read the book: "Just finished Neil Gaiman's CORALINE (Fall02). Dang, that's a good book! NG pays homage to the masters of Horror and Fantasy; but as the cat says "I'm not the other anything. I'm me." Gaiman's writing appears effortless; but we know it took him ten years to write CORALINE. Young readers will have that sense of Delicious Fear they remember from early childhood; adults will remember what used to set them scurrying for parental protection. The characters are cheeky and supremely self-possessed; some are just possessed. What would be a genre piece in another writer's hands, rises to the level of Literary Childhood Scary Classic in CORALINE." There. Happy Ides of March, everyone. Happy march of ideas.
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permalink #1939 of 2008: Jinx who breaks to see the light of day and it's overcast (jinx) Fri 15 Mar 02 08:17
permalink #1939 of 2008: Jinx who breaks to see the light of day and it's overcast (jinx) Fri 15 Mar 02 08:17
Morning all,... Since BosKone I've worked something along the lines of 60 hours a week at work and maybe if I'm lucky have had a day off here and there. I'm tired, and therefore highly susceptible to the giggles, Phang the wonder Phish just reminds my of the bratchilde I call a sister's last boyfriend,...Phrank,...who actually looked like one of those fighting fish. We've never been big fish people in my house, mostly due to two reasons, cats and the fact that my father is a comerical lobsterman, and fish are dinner or bait,...not pets. Of course my sister would name dinner and or race dinner on a regular basis but that's another story. Neil~ are Ides ideas? Cause it's one of those things that I always wonder about for about a month then forget sometime around St. Pat's day. I've been to see a hypnotist on a few occasions, it was interesting and didn't work to keep my from smoking, and I didn't go under at all the other few times, but it's interesting to watch. Mary, Drunken Master 2 is (IMHO) way more fun then the first one. At one time I had the biggest collection of bootleg Jackie Chan movies in New England,...the best parts are the out takes at the end. However, Black Mask with Jet Li, not the released in the states version but the original is my all time favorite. There was more I wanted to mention, but I'm out of tea, and therefore unfocused. Jinx who needs a nap or retail therapy
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permalink #1940 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Fri 15 Mar 02 10:03
permalink #1940 of 2008: Kelly (kellyhills) Fri 15 Mar 02 10:03
It's not been one of those days, or even one of those months, it's starting off as one of those years. I'm a week away from pitching several stories to a few local papers. It's uhm, frightening. :-) I keep thinking of Elise every time I work on the one about ghost towns,... Anyhow. "Hello, sorry to hear that, happy anniversary, happy ides if it can be happy, it's March already? I think that too, sometimes. You need to stop making me snort water out my nose,... you're not safe to read while consuming liquid!" Please apply as appropriate. -Kelly
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permalink #1941 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 15 Mar 02 10:25
permalink #1941 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 15 Mar 02 10:25
Jinx - I quit smoking after one hypnosis session. I didn't want to quit, but I was under a lot of pressure from a lot of people who felt that I should, so I've never been able to attribute it to anything other than the hypnosis. It surely wasn't because I secretly wanted to! On the other hand, hypnosis to deal with the subsequent, and now permanent weight gain, was much less successful. I've always thought that it's because the hypnotist used this very powerful and disgusting image of an extremely fat and slovenly woman as an example of what I DON'T WANT to look like, but I think my mind saw it as simply an example, neither good nor bad, and has been mapping me in its image ever since. I even went to another hypnotist who helped me send that disgusting woman to Jupiter, but she seems to have left her twin sister behind. Ugh. Neil - what a great comment about the book. I'm definitely looking forward to Coraline. Who got to have the pleasure of recording the audio version?
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permalink #1942 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Fri 15 Mar 02 10:39
permalink #1942 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Fri 15 Mar 02 10:39
Jinx--According to Dictionary.com and my 10th grade English teacher, Ides apparently is a the 15th day of March, May, July, or October or the 13th day of the other months in the ancient Roman calendar. Eight days in each month often pass by this name, but only one strictly receives it, the others being called respectively the day before the ides, and so on, backward, to the eightth from the ides. It's those dang Romans. Linda- I'm pretty sure Neil himself recorded the audio Coraline, which is why it will Rule. Vuhhhh....I can't shake this cold and I've been dreaming about corpses. Lousy Smarch weather.
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permalink #1943 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Fri 15 Mar 02 11:50
permalink #1943 of 2008: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Fri 15 Mar 02 11:50
Today is my "I'm having a day" day, as thus far I have a) not finished the DVDs reviews that are due tonight (tho I actually got around to watching two of them, "Slap Shot 2: Breaking the Ice" and "What About Bob" which prolly fulfils the Goldfish Portion of The Post) and b) managed through consummate *skill* to delete 300 megabytes of PhotoShop files off my laptop by accident (and for a second, I had tremendous fear that the JeffMariotte.com redesing files were among them, but I apparently had the presence of mind last week not to save them where I usually save them) and c) *still* have 4+ hours of Three Stooges to plough through tonight because I was an IDIOT who went out to the Hopleaf last nigth with my co-workers, and didn't get home until 10:15pm, at which time I checked email, call the backflip boy, and then fell dead to the world asleep without touching the DVD player. Neil: happy anniversary one day late, and happy Ides. John M. Ford: You are a silly silly man. Thank you. Mary: I still have your "Love's Labour's Lost". I *suck*.
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permalink #1944 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Mar 02 12:07
permalink #1944 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Mar 02 12:07
Linda -- I recorded the audio of Coraline last week. It'll be 3 Tapes of 3 CDs, and will be out in late May. And it isn't abridged at all.
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permalink #1945 of 2008: Annie the harpy (ancillafelium) Fri 15 Mar 02 13:51
permalink #1945 of 2008: Annie the harpy (ancillafelium) Fri 15 Mar 02 13:51
Yay for the Goldfish Swapmeet! I'm actually starting to consider getting fish now... a large un-knockoverable tank would be a great entertainment center for my feline familiars. Maure- that's so neat that you're getting the stories from the kids! I wonder if that's one of the saddest downsides to increased literacy- we don't really tell each other stories like that anymore. You get things that start out that way, but sooner or later they get trapped in writing, and someone starts calling them authoritative and then they're not nearly as fluid as they used to be. Is this all bad? Am i just pessimistic? One of my goals in life is to learn to tell a good story... And I'm so sorry to hear poor Rusalka died... losing pets always stinks. But isn't it funny how humor helps? Okay, everyone's going to think i'm a sicko, but when my grandfathers died, and my Da as well, we had each of them cremated. For some reason (i think in imitation of one of my grandfathers after the death of his wife), we shook each urn to see if it rattled. They all did, and it was terribly funny at the time. Well, it kinda still is, to me at least... :) Happy (late) Anniversary, Neil! Happy (late) Birthday, Linda! John-Mike- wow, what a lovely beat... that was fun to recite out loud. i have this thing for words with rhythm, which at its worst extends to classical poetry... Vivamus mea Lesbia quaemaemus! (i think i just spelled something wrong there, oops.)
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permalink #1946 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 15 Mar 02 15:06
permalink #1946 of 2008: Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Fri 15 Mar 02 15:06
Adriana - and here I was complaining about the Smarch weather yesterday! Tho' today it seems pretty seasonable. Linda - Happy bee day (late) Neil - Happy anniv. (late) Can't wait to hear Coraline! Hooray for sock monkeys! and... hrm... forgot... Maure/Jade - Hugs. Sending happy thoughts both your respective directions. Me - happy first day off in 10 days! re: new topic title - does this mean I have to go and get goldfish to swap with y'all? squeaks, who is meant to be in Menlo Park just now...
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permalink #1947 of 2008: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Fri 15 Mar 02 15:47
permalink #1947 of 2008: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Fri 15 Mar 02 15:47
Does this mean we should play poker for goldfish instead of chips? Just a thought...
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permalink #1948 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 15 Mar 02 15:50
permalink #1948 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 15 Mar 02 15:50
Live or crackers?
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permalink #1949 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Mar 02 17:21
permalink #1949 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 15 Mar 02 17:21
I think the goldfish in question are notional. maybe it should be a notional goldfish swapmeet. (Nearly typed swampmeat. Sigh.)
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permalink #1950 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Fri 15 Mar 02 18:40
permalink #1950 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Fri 15 Mar 02 18:40
The goldfish certainly were meant to be notional (the only ones I have are cheddar and pretzel). Much as a good deal of the material on the Antiques Roadshow is far fram antique; today's episode saw another outbreak -- by no means the first -- of violins, their owners positive they were in possession of a hundred thousand quid on the hoof (orcatgut), labeled "Stradivarius -- Made in Czechosolovakia."
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