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Topic 125: The Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Who are these people and why won't they go away?
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permalink #1901 of 2008: Waiting for Vizzini..... (erynn-miles) Tue 12 Mar 02 16:19
permalink #1901 of 2008: Waiting for Vizzini..... (erynn-miles) Tue 12 Mar 02 16:19
Terri- Wow thank you. I'm not published anywhere yet though. Yesterday I mailed a story to The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, and over two months ago I mailed a different one to Cemetery Dance. If I hear anything good from them, I'll be sure to post it here. At this point, I'm just trying to market my short stories to magazines. The story itself is more important than the grammar, of course. But when they're going through hundreds of manuscripts, they probably take the grammatically-correct ones more seriously. That's my guess anyway. I can't wait until I'm successful enough to have my very own editor. Danw was kind of one for a while, and was very helpful. (Oh Dan! That reminds me. If you still, for whatever reason, have those stories on your hard drive, delete them. They're just plain silly to me now.) BillBill- That's creepy. I'd love to see pictures of that. Mary- I'd like to be hypnotized. But definitely not in front of a crowd. I would have to trust the person as well. I just can't see it happening. I can't imagine not having control over my brain(without drugs anyway). At the show, he made the the guys do some erotic dancing in front of the male "judges" in the audience. Toward the end of the show, one of them admitted he was gay. Though, his friends didn't seem to know anything about that. I don't think the volunteers knew that J would take everything that far. I certainly didn't. And to think....I almost volunteered. This week I'm allowing myself to order two books: Adventures in the Dream Trade and a John-Mike book(Yes, I know. I'm waaayy behind). John-Mike- I know this has been asked before, but I can't remember when, so I can't find it...Which book of yours should I read first? Does it matter?
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permalink #1902 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 12 Mar 02 19:43
permalink #1902 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 12 Mar 02 19:43
<licking the hamachi roll off my fingers> Well, folks, you've done it again. We are about 107 posts - barring slips - away from reaching the end of this topic. So, shall we continue? And if so, what shall we call this new incarnation?
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permalink #1903 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Tue 12 Mar 02 20:59
permalink #1903 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Tue 12 Mar 02 20:59
Terri--Hi! Welcome! You live in the prettiest place I've ever been :-) Elise--happy beading vibes! Linda--yes! Please? Mary (who has just been reminded how long it's been since she did algebra. Or geometry. Or any math, really.)
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permalink #1904 of 2008: popping up... (rocky-nyc) Tue 12 Mar 02 21:05
permalink #1904 of 2008: popping up... (rocky-nyc) Tue 12 Mar 02 21:05
Linda - I'll cast a vote for "You're all silly buggers: CARRY ON Neil Gaiman" Neil - Now you've done it! Blue Ribbon wasn't one of the better kept secrets in sushidom, but now we'll have to endure much longer lines. So much for continuing to deny any knowledge of its existence. Bugger! Tree - Thanks babe, I plan to replace all the other expletive deleteds with this one. Just got my copy of AitDT. Must.. not..begin..reading.. until..weekend. BUGGER! ;)
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permalink #1905 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 12 Mar 02 21:17
permalink #1905 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 12 Mar 02 21:17
Heartily agreed to continue. I need my barking mad fix. As requested, pictures: Not exactly light as a feather... http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w.j.williams/hypnotist1.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w.j.williams/hypnotist2.jpg ...but definitely stiff as a board. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w.j.williams/hypnotist3.jpg Our class president getting his "marching orders" http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w.j.williams/hypnotist4.jpg ...and dashing off to relieve himself. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w.j.williams/hypnotist5.jpg A very worried prez returning to discuss his dilemma http://mywebpages.comcast.net/w.j.williams/hypnotist6.jpg
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permalink #1906 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 12 Mar 02 21:33
permalink #1906 of 2008: Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 12 Mar 02 21:33
Oops, forgot to mention, I'm the tall blond fella with his back to the camera onstage. The pictures were taken on my 110 camera, which accounts for the terrible image quality, by my mom.
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permalink #1907 of 2008: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Tue 12 Mar 02 22:40
permalink #1907 of 2008: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Tue 12 Mar 02 22:40
Linda, yes, pray let us continue. Silly Buggers sounds like a fine sort of name. How about The Absolutely Barking Mad Gaiman Mob: Carry On, You Silly Buggers! Actually, I think Silly Buggers is a quintessential band name.
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permalink #1908 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Tue 12 Mar 02 23:00
permalink #1908 of 2008: Erynn Miles (erynn-miles) Tue 12 Mar 02 23:00
billbill- That's *so* weird. Thanks for posting those. And my, you are tall! lioness/Linda- or it could be: Buggers of Neil Gaiman. It has sort of a double meaning. Hehe. Yeah, I'm tired.
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permalink #1909 of 2008: Madly Barking (stagewalker) Tue 12 Mar 02 23:01
permalink #1909 of 2008: Madly Barking (stagewalker) Tue 12 Mar 02 23:01
Erynn... ok. I promise to delete them and not use them as blackmail material somewhere down the line. As for a name issue: I think that Neil's comments that he's just one of the mob now should be considered... and that we don't necessarily need his name in the title. With that in mind, I'd like to suggest the following: Still Barking Mad After All These Years The Barking Mad Mob: A Well Institution The Barking Mad Mob: Endless Nattering I feel some need to add something meaningful to the conversation, but my absence of fish stories and the lack of any active Neil or Martha related projects keeps me fairly mum. However, I am enjoying turning myself into Albert Einstein for a show in April.
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permalink #1910 of 2008: Terri O'Leary (xmorpheus) Wed 13 Mar 02 02:21
permalink #1910 of 2008: Terri O'Leary (xmorpheus) Wed 13 Mar 02 02:21
Erynn - publish on the web darlink. Create a demand and then they'll be BEGGING to print you! :) lioness - We only ever have 2 phish at a time - and our phish are phish with a ph - nothing to do with the group - we just like to irritate people ;) So Borgle I was succeeded by Borgle II and so on. Borgle II definitely thought his name was "Bad Phish" though...which is kind of strange as we now have a cat called "Badly" ;) mary - you've been to Blanchardstown? ;)
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permalink #1911 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 13 Mar 02 08:26
permalink #1911 of 2008: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 13 Mar 02 08:26
E-mail from Dax Pagan: Jenifer-Paige- Saw a copy of Preludes and Nocturnes with the cd-rom in back... didn't notice if the price was any higher, but I wouldn't think so (the label says 'free', at least), but there's an ugly black corner banner announcing it that pretty much ruins the cover design. Neil- Haven't said 'hi' since finishing American Gods. Loved it, great work, I'll be sure to push the paperback on many 'new' people. I was sad to finish it, knowing how long it took to write, and how far away it must be that something as huge and ambitious would come our way again... Harlequin Valentine was beautiful. A few Endless Nights questions. The artist line-up kinda trickles out in bits and pieces, but I worry I might have missed an announcement somewhere, somehow: Milo Manara's doing Desire (and you surprisingly and disappointingly didn't write enough nudity for him), Sienkiewicz, the Delirium (okay, only two lines, but is she at least 'on-screen' much?), I know Barron Storey's doing the Despair... Can't recall if I'd read that Moebius were doing Death, or...? Prado and Liberatore are on which? And the seventh artist? Or maybe there are eight, with ones for both Morpheus and Daniel? Is Dave going to be involved at all? Hope so, and that he finds time for Wolves In The Walls, too... Obviously, very much looking forward to this. The Marvel project sounds intriguing, too, but I'm still hungry for a proper Delirium mini-series... even if FAR off, you do have a story or stories in mind for this, right? Feeling hopeful about Miracleman these days. I think the universe is going to line up just right, and justice will be served. Any news to report on the animated Goldfish/Me and My Big Ideas? Happy fan moment to share- After six or seven failed attempts, was fortunate enough to have Tori sign my Death: High Cost hardcover last fall- looks great on the cover, though I'd hoped she'd open it up to see the lovely sketches by Neil, Dave, and Chris Bachalo... she was moving very quickly for a large crowd of people, but she smiled a great smile of recognition when she saw my book, as if it had been awhile since somebody had held one in front of her... Have to order AITDream Trade and McKean's Pictures That Tick yet... oh, and now this Gene Wolfe chapbook... Coraline can't arrive soon enough (but I don't think I'll do audio-book first...). Happily, no shortage of Neil material to grab hold of, that's good...
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permalink #1912 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 13 Mar 02 10:03
permalink #1912 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 13 Mar 02 10:03
maure -- I'm pleased Rusalka's getting better. We have a 20 gallon tank in Maddy's room, with several goldfish and a koi in it. I killed half the goldfish about 3 years ago by topping up their tank using water that had been through a dehumidifier... (shamefaced shuffle). Now only one goldfish remains from the original bunch, and the koi, who we got a year or so after the rest. The one who died last month had grown from coin-size to hand-sized, and he'd eat from my fingers. Tree & all --I'd spoilsportingly cast a vote *against* putting bugger in the title of the topic, because I sometimes have to log on on other people's computers -- offices and airports and suchlike -- and it's not at all uncommon for them to have nanny software to make sure that the language on a page is clean before they'll open it. And I suspect enough of them would find bugger on their banned words list to cause headaches. I'm a long way from AITDT -- would you by any chance be on page 231? Hi terri... welcome to the madhouse. Dax -- A Death story was written for Moebius, but he has some health issues right now and it's a bit up in the air. It may become a separate graphic novel in its own right. Or I may rewrite it for someone else (although there aren't many out there up with Moebius). Liberatore is Destruction. Prado's Morpheus. Destiny may well be P. Craig Russell (whose adaptation of MURDER MYSTERIES will probably win him awards. It's astonishing, and I say that as a disinterested observer). Dave will do the book design and cover, I hope.
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permalink #1913 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Wed 13 Mar 02 14:36
permalink #1913 of 2008: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Wed 13 Mar 02 14:36
*GASP* I'm coming up for air after weeks of hiding in my mind's cave and am once again hopelessly lost here. I'll just sit here in the corner looking inconspicuous. *shuffle* BTW-Neil, many thanks for the throat remedy, which I am using right now to ease my poor sad throatiness.
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permalink #1914 of 2008: Poorhouse *and* Madhouse dweller (erynn-miles) Wed 13 Mar 02 19:36
permalink #1914 of 2008: Poorhouse *and* Madhouse dweller (erynn-miles) Wed 13 Mar 02 19:36
Hi Adriana! I was thinking that "Neil" or Gaiman" should be in the title only because this is a Vue conference and people who aren't regulars might have a harder time finding him if they want to pop in and ask a question, or see what he's plugging. I like "Neil Gaiman's Madhouse". But then, I doubt he *really* wants to take responsibility for all of this.
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permalink #1915 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Wed 13 Mar 02 20:25
permalink #1915 of 2008: John M. Ford (johnmford) Wed 13 Mar 02 20:25
For what they're worth: Neil Gaiman: The Dreaming Annex The Endless Gaiman Topic Neil Gaiman's Goldfish Swapmeet
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permalink #1916 of 2008: crazy cats, crazy crazy cats (ancillafelium) Wed 13 Mar 02 20:32
permalink #1916 of 2008: crazy cats, crazy crazy cats (ancillafelium) Wed 13 Mar 02 20:32
"Neil Gaiman's Goldfish Swapmeet" Does this mean we'd all have to have goldfish to be allowed to post? I'm really more of a mammal person... maybe if we don't really have goldfish, but we dream or write about having them?
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permalink #1917 of 2008: a pig-full of quarters (miss-mousey) Wed 13 Mar 02 20:45
permalink #1917 of 2008: a pig-full of quarters (miss-mousey) Wed 13 Mar 02 20:45
<xmorpheus> - My favourite swear is "DARN IT TO HECK!" I picked it off of Night Court because it had to be one of the funniest lines on the show. And we're DEFinitely in need of a new topic. Need my WELL fix - and the barking mad fix too (because life in general doesn't get me nearly mad enough - I want to be Hatter mad!) annie - How about if we all *like* goldfish of a sort, or have had them at some point, as I don't think I can go through the trauma of killing off another 5 at a time on accident. Okay, work beckons... Yay Tree! squeaks, who is following her fishies
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permalink #1918 of 2008: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Wed 13 Mar 02 22:01
permalink #1918 of 2008: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Wed 13 Mar 02 22:01
Goldfish Swapmeet cracks me up. And it also sounds like a band name. *Everything* sounds like a band name at this hour, though. Recalcitrant Doormat. Pendulous Rivets. Totoro Attitude Festival. Scareport. See what I mean? Elise, wandering off muttering
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permalink #1919 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 13 Mar 02 22:33
permalink #1919 of 2008: Martha Soukup (soukup) Wed 13 Mar 02 22:33
Goldfish Swapmeet is clearly the name.
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permalink #1920 of 2008: Jenifer (jenifer-paige) Wed 13 Mar 02 22:58
permalink #1920 of 2008: Jenifer (jenifer-paige) Wed 13 Mar 02 22:58
Thanks for the info, Dax. I appreciate the answer. I probably won't go looking for it right now then, I'm two things behind already, with more coming. And for anyone in Atlanta, (or Minnesota, soon) Teavana, www.teavana.com. Lovely, helpful people, fine store, amazing tea.
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permalink #1921 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Wed 13 Mar 02 23:24
permalink #1921 of 2008: Mary Roane (the-roane) Wed 13 Mar 02 23:24
I think virtual goldfish, imaginary koi, or binary carp ownership would qualify. Oh, God, 5 hours of studying geometry on the Web........*help me!* Terri--don't think so, but I never saw an ugly place on the island. So probability would indicate....oh, stop me before I compute again. Mary (who takes her teacher certification test on Saturday, and who started Dragon Waiting this morning)
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permalink #1922 of 2008: Terri O'Leary (xmorpheus) Thu 14 Mar 02 02:19
permalink #1922 of 2008: Terri O'Leary (xmorpheus) Thu 14 Mar 02 02:19
goldfish swapmeet - works for me - and I'd agree with the Neil Gaiman somewhere in the name if Neil's no serious objections. I didn't realise he was here but I did do a search on various authors to see if I could find like-minded people - if da name hadn't been there I wouldn't have come here :) Came as a surprise to actually find the author himself participating - a nice suprise though :) Mary - actually Blanchardstown isn't that bad - but it is on the northside of Dublin which is considered the Irish equivalent of the "wrong side of the tracks" (in this case, the tracks are the river Liffey but I never said it was logical...) There are the standard Northsider jokes which I'm sure you've heard in some other incarnation: Q. What do you call a northsider in a suit A. The accused Q. What do you say to a northsider with a job A. Bigmac meal with coke please Q. What do northsiders use as protection during sex A. A bus shelter And so on..... :) Good luck with the test - hope all goes well for you Terri (who has been phollowing her phishy for some time now!)
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permalink #1923 of 2008: Jade Walker (maidenfate) Thu 14 Mar 02 02:42
permalink #1923 of 2008: Jade Walker (maidenfate) Thu 14 Mar 02 02:42
I'm in a rare melancholy mood this evening. I live in NYC, and each night, my car service picks me up at home and takes me to work. Originally, our route was through the Battery tunnel, a right onto Church and a winding ride up 6th Ave. to my building in Times Square. Of course, like everything else, that changed six months ago when access to lower Manhattan was rerouted. Since that time, we've driven over the Brooklyn Bridge -- a solid steel span that offers a depressingly vacant view of the altered skyline. The last time I visited the WTC was in June for the launch of "American Gods." I remember running into my friend, Voltaire, and having a lovely chat. I snagged a decent seat on the floor for the reading and the short Q&A session where I learned of Neil's passion for foreign pumpking seeds.. And I earned the enmity of the 500 other readers who were waiting for an autograph when Neil gave me a hug and said some very kind things about my work. Tonight, the tunnel was reopened and so my driver and I opted to take our original route...which took the car right past the ugly hole commonly known as "ground zero." As we drove by, I stared at the empty space where the book store used to be, and wondered if I had dreamed that enjoyable summer evening less than a year ago. Jade Walker
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permalink #1924 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Thu 14 Mar 02 04:06
permalink #1924 of 2008: Maure Luke (maureluke) Thu 14 Mar 02 04:06
Annie, the russian folk tales I hear are the versions from russian children - choppy, vague, and told in whispers with great round eyes. When they have a better handle on the language, or when I have a better handle on theirs, I'll get more complete stories, I'm sure. However, I have been assured that while the rusalka and the vodyanoi are indeed fairy stories, the domovoi is real. Erynn, when I was in junior high, I lived near a University. A friend and I went to a hypnotist's presentation one night. I wanted desperately to be hypnotised. My friend and I volunteered and were chosen to be subjects. After he came back to me twice, he finally asked me to sit down. I never figured out whether or not my friend was really under hypnosis or just pretending. But the show was very entertaining to watch, despite my disappointment in not being hypnotised. Terri, I've read Prachett, but obviously not that particular title. Now I have to find it. Things like that make me laugh in public too - when I lived in NYC I thought for sure the group of Polish women who were on the subway every time I was would have me arrested and sent Away for lunacy. I can't help it - there's humor everywhere. Tree, Pfang the Wonder Pfish?! tee hee Erynn, I'm crossing my fingers for your magazine submissions. I have to admit that while a good story will suck me in regardless of its mechanical faults, I love good grammar with a passion that is unholy. Or at least, unhealthy. Linda, yes, please, let us continue! Neil and everyone, thank you for being pleased at the prospect of Rusalka's returning health. Despite my best efforts and all of your goodwill, she died yesterday. I'm not a very good fish caretaker I suppose.
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permalink #1925 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 14 Mar 02 05:46
permalink #1925 of 2008: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 14 Mar 02 05:46
Maure -- sympathies. Did you ever read Terry Pratchett's poem THE SECRET BOOK OF THE DEAD... in "GHASTLY BEYOND BELIEF"? It begins (from memory) They don't teach you the facts of death Your mum and dad, they give you pets We had a dog the other day got laminated to a motorway. It died. We had to post it to the vets. and contains the line A goldfish swimming on a stall two weeks later: cotton wool and sent to meet its maker down the loo. Which, whenever I bid farewell to a small fishie corpse I find myself reciting under my breath. I hope it gives you as much comfort as it gave me. Er. Well, it was why I gave Death goldfish, anyway. ... Erynn, Point taken on sticking my name in the title of the topic, and I agree, as long as the world knows I can only swing by as much as time permits. Sometimes often, sometimes I'll fall off the world for a few weeks. ... Jade -- Wasn't that a great evening? Bizarrely, around 1.00 am I was swept up after the signing by Claudia "Magnetic Fields" Gonson, Andy "Sci Fi Channel" Heidel and Jennifer "voice and puppeteer of Mama Lion on PBS's wonderful Between The Lions and posessor of the single dirtiest laugh in human history" Barnhardt, and dragged off to Soho where they knew of a Japanese restaurant that would feed a starving and exhausted author, and sitting at the table next to us was Voltaire, who had skipped out of the signing (although he'd sent a CD over with a friend). Terri -- a bus shelter? (huge grin) Ah, it's been too long since I've done a signing in Dublin. I wonder if I could get there for Coraline. ... It's my wedding anniversary. I'd wanted it for the 15th of March, so I'd never forget it, but for some reason having to do with family travel it had to be the Day Before The Ides. I've not forgotten it yet.
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