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permalink #126 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 20:26
permalink #126 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 20:26
Uh Huh.
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permalink #127 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 09:39
permalink #127 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 09:39
Were we going to have a coloring contest? The best coloring gets a free book?
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permalink #128 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Wed 23 Jan 02 09:49
permalink #128 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Wed 23 Jan 02 09:49
Let's talk about the upcoming Massachusetts book. What are some of the elements that you would like to include that people ( from, say, the west coast) might not know about the Bay State. Other than the fact that we don't ALL talk funny.
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permalink #129 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Wed 23 Jan 02 10:30
permalink #129 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Wed 23 Jan 02 10:30
In the Mass. book there will be NO R! (Hey, no one would pronounce it anyway!) *Q for the Quabbin Reservoir (which buried 5 or more towns in the 1930's) because Boston is thirsty. *That the telephone and the telegraph were invented in Masschusetts. *That the Navy Bean is the official Bean of the state (adopted 1993) and that the cranberry is the offical berry (adopted 1994) *Cranberry juice is the official drink (adopted 1970) and that's half of an alcoholic drink named for the state (The Cape Codder) The other half is a jigger of vodka. That in 1784, a cod was carved from a solid piece of white pine. It measured four feet, eleven inches long and was carved realistically, with close attention to detail. This was known as the "Sacred Cod", and² was hung over the desk of the House Speaker in the Massachusetts House of Representatives. It remained there until 1860, when it was shifted to the rear of the chamber. After the completion of the new House in 1895, the Sacred Cod was moved to its present location between two central columns over the railing separating the visitors¹ gallery from the floor of the House. It traditionally faces north when the Democrats hold a majority, south when the Republicans are in the majority.
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permalink #130 of 228: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 23 Jan 02 10:41
permalink #130 of 228: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 23 Jan 02 10:41
Now that is cool.
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permalink #131 of 228: Dr. Leda Horticulture (leroy) Wed 23 Jan 02 12:13
permalink #131 of 228: Dr. Leda Horticulture (leroy) Wed 23 Jan 02 12:13
Y'all come on down and do Louisiana. It's almost too easy, but at least you have a place to stay. A = alligators, accordions, Atchafalaya, Audubon Zoo B = bayou, bouree, boudin, beignets, Bourbon Street, Boudreaux & Thibodeaux C = Cajun, Creole, crawfish, cracklins, cane fields D = Dixieland, David Duke, Drive-Thru Daiqueries, doubloons E = etoufee, Evangeline F = fais do-do, file', fire ants, French Quarter G = gumbo, gris-gris H = heat & humidity, Holly Beach I = ibis, Avery Island J = jambalaya, Jolie Blonde K = king cake L = "Laissez les bons temps rouler, " "Lache pas la patate!" M = Mardi Gras, Mamou, Marie Laveaux N = New Orleans, nutria O = oysters, Oo ye yi! P = pirogue, Paul Prudomme, pelicans, po' boys Q = Queen Ida R = roaches, roux S = snakes, state troopers, swamp pop, Spanish moss, sac-au-lait T = trailer parks, Tabasco, ti-fer, two-step, tasso U = Uncle Joe V = vacherie, voodoo, Vieux Carre' W = waltzing X = BoudreauX, ThibodeauX, QuibedeauX, ArceneauX, ComeauX, GautreauX, etc. (ok, needs work maybe) Y = "You Are My Sunshine," YooHoo, Yambilee Festival Z = zydeco
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permalink #132 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Wed 23 Jan 02 12:16
permalink #132 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Wed 23 Jan 02 12:16
S could also be Superdome, Saints or Sugar Bowl. Well, okay, Superdome or Sugar Bowl. Hey, Adam, you've got another state ready to go! And don't forget about N for Napoleonic Code, still alive and kicking!
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permalink #133 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Wed 23 Jan 02 13:58
permalink #133 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Wed 23 Jan 02 13:58
Wow! Impressive! One of the things I plan on doing is creating a school show/workshop in support of the book, and actually part of the workshop is just that-- Make an A-Z of your city/family/favorite activity. How did you think about organzing it? What were the hard letters? Would it have been easier to organize it going in a different way? Numerically? Chronologically? How else could we organize it? Good list Leroy-- esp. for a pop culture version of the book. I really like Y is for Yamboree! It's hard to make a good and balanced list though. Leroy's list is heavy on music and dancing and eating. We'd definitley need to include some square subjects too, and then make them better! If we were doing Louisiana we'd definitely have to do P for Pelican, and mention that the state seal features a pelican tearing a piece of flesh from its breast to feed its young. And I don't know where we'd mention it (C should be for Crawfish, sho'nuff) but the Catahoula Leopard Dog (the official state dog) is something that I'd definitely want to fit in some way. Webbed feet! Spotted Coat! Glassy Eyes! <http://www.catahoulaleopard.com/Nikki001.jpg>
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permalink #134 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:23
permalink #134 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:23
Your list is EXCELLENT <leroy>! I think you should get busy writing it. Here are a few of my initial picks: A = alligators B = bayou C = crawfish D = Dixieland E = etoufee F = French Quarter G = gumbo H = howyermomandem I = ibis J = jambalaya K = king cake L = Laissez les bons temps rouler (Let the good times roll) M = Mardi Gras (discuss New Orleans in this topic) N = nutria O = oysters P = pelicans Q = Queen Ida R = roux S = Spanish moss T = Tabasco U = Uncle Joe V = voodoo W = waltzing X = BoudreauX Y = Yambilee Festival Z = zydeco
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permalink #135 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:30
permalink #135 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:30
In addition to the dog, we also need to work in the Magnolia (state flower) and the Cypress (state tree). Those can often be worked around in another topic. Like the Cypress can be included in the Bayou.
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permalink #136 of 228: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:31
permalink #136 of 228: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:31
Some jazz history might be good too.
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permalink #137 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:36
permalink #137 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:36
Yes, under Dixieland.
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permalink #138 of 228: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:52
permalink #138 of 228: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 23 Jan 02 15:52
Aha. And put Cajun under Zydeco in that case. Sure.
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permalink #139 of 228: Patrizia Dilucchio (fritz) Wed 23 Jan 02 16:03
permalink #139 of 228: Patrizia Dilucchio (fritz) Wed 23 Jan 02 16:03
Eat yr heart out, Mary Englebrecht!
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permalink #140 of 228: Dr. Leda Horticulture (leroy) Wed 23 Jan 02 16:15
permalink #140 of 228: Dr. Leda Horticulture (leroy) Wed 23 Jan 02 16:15
No no, Cajuns don't play zydeco. Zydeco and Cajun music share a common ancestor, usually just called French music, but they've evolved quite separately and are quite different. Different dances too. Also, there's no "d" in yermamanem. Y'all let me know and I'll get your rooms all ready.
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permalink #141 of 228: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 23 Jan 02 16:34
permalink #141 of 228: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 23 Jan 02 16:34
Exactly. "Jazz" is fortunately not all Dixieland in NO, either.
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permalink #142 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Wed 23 Jan 02 18:34
permalink #142 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Wed 23 Jan 02 18:34
See, this is EXACTLY the process that you have to go through. Probably Zydeco stays in, as it's hard to get a good Z. That means that you have to maybe get rid of W for Waltzing, because you don't want the whole book to be culture and dancing. C for Cajun and Creole and talk about the growth of both. "Laissez Les bonnes temps roulez!" is a great idea, but it's not a good illustration subject. Mardi Gras is a little better, but what's the image? (No, it's not a lady raising her shirt!) (Unless Donna thinks she can do it, in case, I defer)
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permalink #143 of 228: Autumn Storhaug (autumn) Wed 23 Jan 02 19:04
permalink #143 of 228: Autumn Storhaug (autumn) Wed 23 Jan 02 19:04
Sorry for getting to this topic so late. Donna, I love your artwork!
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permalink #144 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 19:06
permalink #144 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Wed 23 Jan 02 19:06
The A to Z format has its limits. Not all the categories can/will have a perfect handling. A concise history of jazz, or any other single topic, is pretty much impossible with this sort of book. Things that don't make it into the lettered subjects can be fleshed out in the intro copy. I try not to dwell on what isn't happening (drive meself nuts). What IS happening is a great deal more than most people expect. Mardis Gras has plenty of visuals. We don't need to be flashing boobage in a kid's book. (No matter how much you want to.)
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permalink #145 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Wed 23 Jan 02 19:11
permalink #145 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Wed 23 Jan 02 19:11
Please! Pretty Please? With sugar on top? Oh, wait a minnit.... That's not sugar!
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permalink #146 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 23 Jan 02 23:55
permalink #146 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 23 Jan 02 23:55
Wait! Back to the Massachusetts book for sec: about that sacred cod - c for cod or s for sacred?
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permalink #147 of 228: Eleanor Parker (wellelp) Thu 24 Jan 02 01:28
permalink #147 of 228: Eleanor Parker (wellelp) Thu 24 Jan 02 01:28
Has there been a conscious decision not to include people in the A to Z, just objects and places? What about books, or music?
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permalink #148 of 228: Dr. Leda Horticulture (leroy) Thu 24 Jan 02 05:49
permalink #148 of 228: Dr. Leda Horticulture (leroy) Thu 24 Jan 02 05:49
(I just want to point out that Mardi Gras isn't just a New Orleans thing. We have the traditional rural courirs up here in the country where we dress up in elaborate medieval-like costumes with masks made of screens and tall pointy hats called capuchon, ride horses standing up in the sdaddle, and gallop around the countryside chasing chickens for the gumbo. Though I use "we" in the loosest sense of the word when it comes to standing up in the saddle. It's quite colorfu, family-oriented, and much more authentic and traditional than the touristy hoopla in NO. Some great pictures at http://www.lsue.edu/acadgate/mardmain.htm.)
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permalink #149 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Thu 24 Jan 02 05:58
permalink #149 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Thu 24 Jan 02 05:58
My Southwest series is focused on natural history and therefore doesn't include individuals. The Rhode Island book has enough history that it is necessary to mention some individuals (with no one as the focus of any single subject). There are several illustrations which include human figures: Lobsters with Adam, Textiles with an old world spinner, and Violets with Consuelo Vanderbilt. None of the illustrated individuals are indentified in the text. Biographical approaches are probably best done in a different sort of book. I think we'll do "Walden" for the "W" in Massachusetts A-Z. There's a book for you!
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permalink #150 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Thu 24 Jan 02 06:04
permalink #150 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Thu 24 Jan 02 06:04
Slippage Leroy. I would love to attend the Mardi Gras, especially those festivities which are not tourist-focused. It sounds wonderful. (Your descriptions always do.) The scheduling will be a bit challenging as I'll be spending the next five Februaries hammering away in the print department at ASU.
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