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permalink #101 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 18 Jan 02 15:09
permalink #101 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 18 Jan 02 15:09
I can certainly understand that. Like, it would be too weird to have them show up in a Burger King commercial, for example. Or floor wax.
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permalink #102 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Sat 19 Jan 02 08:41
permalink #102 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Sat 19 Jan 02 08:41
Donna, how did it feel the first time you saw your own work somewhere like a bookstore?
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permalink #103 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Sat 19 Jan 02 09:22
permalink #103 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Sat 19 Jan 02 09:22
You want to know the truth? Exciting, yet a bit disappointing. I tend to dream big. Life doesn't get too close on most occasions. And since I've been a graphic designer for 25 years, with artwork up on billboards, etc., a little bookstore exposure didn't make that much of a dent on the old public exposure graph. Back to Linda's question. I'm currently learning serigraphy and fabric surface treatments. I may take a few of the most popular compositions and convert them into limited edition prints, hand-printed/painted pillows, and other affordable art items.
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permalink #104 of 228: Patrizia Dilucchio (fritz) Sat 19 Jan 02 11:57
permalink #104 of 228: Patrizia Dilucchio (fritz) Sat 19 Jan 02 11:57
Lamp shades! Donna, waaaay back there I asked you about printers. I'm gonna ask again -- what's your favorite high-end, cost is no object, printer? And what's your favorite low-end printer? And do you do your own color profiles or do you pay someone to do them for you?
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permalink #105 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 19 Jan 02 17:21
permalink #105 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Sat 19 Jan 02 17:21
Are you talking about hardware, Patrizia? I got the impression from Donna's original response that she thought you were talking about printing services.
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permalink #106 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Sat 19 Jan 02 18:00
permalink #106 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Sat 19 Jan 02 18:00
Buy an Iris proofer if you have the money. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with my Epson Stylus 3000 inkjet printer. But, I'm no expert either. I'm willing to live as far from the bleeding edge of technology as industrial survival will allow.
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permalink #107 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sun 20 Jan 02 07:52
permalink #107 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sun 20 Jan 02 07:52
I think that I answered the question above about printers, and I thought you were talking about people who print rather than machines you buy. As for me-- when I first got the printed book back from the printer I thought it looked great. I was just surprised that it didn't have lots of bells and whistles and a peculiar iridescent glow that I thought in my imagination it had. It looked VERY similar to the sample copy that we had made, just better. Now, for me, my supreme happiness comes when I see the book on a table, and people pick it up, start looking through it, and start reading through it with a little bit of excitement that it had sparked their interest (or when they look through and recognize something "Ah, the Crescent Park Carousel! I haven't been there in years!" I also like to look the book up in the library, and see that it's been taken out! That's a rush!
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permalink #108 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Sun 20 Jan 02 09:37
permalink #108 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Sun 20 Jan 02 09:37
Last night my wife and I had the great pleasure to see Adam's phenomenal Flea Circus in person. For those of you who have the good fortune to be on the East Coast, I URGE you not to miss it when it comes to a town near you. I have so many questions i don't know where to start. I guess I'll be chronological: Adam, where did the hawking aspect of the show come from? It does a terrific job of setting hte tone, loosening up the crowd and clearly gives you an opportunity to get into the flow, assess the group and soften them up.
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permalink #109 of 228: Patrizia Dilucchio (fritz) Sun 20 Jan 02 10:02
permalink #109 of 228: Patrizia Dilucchio (fritz) Sun 20 Jan 02 10:02
Nope, I was shamelessly milking Donna's expertise for product reviews!
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permalink #110 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sun 20 Jan 02 10:15
permalink #110 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sun 20 Jan 02 10:15
This is really grist for a different interview -- you know, when I write my flea circus book.... (but what the heck!) I used to do a different opening to the show. It was much more of a silent clown opening. I'd be hanging out near the flea circus (going behind it, etc.) Like a silent clown/mad scientist. There were all these signs that I kept on putting up that said "3 minutes to the big show" "2 minutes to the big show" "30 seconds" "20 seconds" etc. until "the show is beginning." Then I'd do my lecture about fleas, and then turn over the last sign that said "The Show has begun." I decided it was preparing people to see a different show, not my show. So I wanted to try something different. I thought to myself that when you go to see the flea circus, there should be memorabilia. And so I created some, not quite knowing if people would buy stuff after they've already paid their admission. As I've done my show, that part of the show has expanded. I've got more merchandise, I have little bits, etc. I kind of stumbled on a truism that if you haven't purchased the flea circus memorabilia, (.10 for a program) you really haven't been to the show. And the incessant hawking gets you right into the circus mood. People come to the show to be bamboozled into buying stuff. So i sell them stuff. You can see most of what I have for sale at <http://www.trainedfleas.com/merch.html> When I was in Brazil at the International Clown Festival, people were talking about my character in the show as being quintessentially American, a hustling guy who would sell you his mother if he thought he could, and then forget to give you the change. I want to give off that feeling, but in a way that is never threatening. I don't want you to think that I am ripping you off. I want you to see me try to rip you off in a way that makes you want to be ripped off. (Ripping off is the wrong word-- swindling might be a better word. Or bamboozling. Or hornswaggling.)
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permalink #111 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Sun 20 Jan 02 12:28
permalink #111 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Sun 20 Jan 02 12:28
Hornswaggling is good. How did the educational piece come about?
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permalink #112 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sun 20 Jan 02 13:27
permalink #112 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sun 20 Jan 02 13:27
The educational piece was always part of the show. I wanted to make sure that there was an educational part of the show, and I had done so much fascinating historical research about fleas that it had to get in there. And what do people know about fleas? Not much. I decided to educate them. Originally, my concept that it wouldn't be a "book of fleas" but rather kind of a charted presentation that would fit on the "blackboard" that hides the show in the beginning (Currently it has the sign "Shhh... The fleas are sleeping.") We were discussing what it should be. Dennis Hylnsky, the man who made all of the props for the show (including the suitcase/table that everything happens on) and Jaime Murphy, the illustrator of the book and the painter of the painting on the outside of the flea circus case. We had sketched out what some of the pages should be. Jaime came in to a production meeting and said "I don't know if you'll like this, but I think it should be a book." And she showed it to me, this canvas book that she had made. I thought it was great. My only reservations were that the pictures would be too small. But what the heck, it's a flea circus! And I know is that I want my collaborators to be happy. So I said, It'll work! And then I made it work. In retrospect, the book is SO MUCH BETTER than a presentation might have been. It's classy and Victorian and write on the money. The lesson here-- Choose your collaborators well, and then let them do their work. Work with what they give you. The book was built, and then I wrote the lecture for it. They don't exactly co-incide, which I think is great. The lecture has a nice flow to it.
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permalink #113 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sun 20 Jan 02 13:29
permalink #113 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sun 20 Jan 02 13:29
Are you guys interested in this? Maybe it would be better to port this stuff (on the flea circus) to a separate topic? That way if you want to read about the book, you can, but you don't have to read about the flea circus....
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permalink #114 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Mon 21 Jan 02 08:57
permalink #114 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Mon 21 Jan 02 08:57
Back to the book. I checked our Amazon page: Our Amazon Sales Rank is now 1,477,513! On December 10 it was 1,705,232. We jumped 227,719 books in a fell swoop. If this keeps up we might be in the top million by year's end! :o)
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permalink #115 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 21 Jan 02 23:00
permalink #115 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Mon 21 Jan 02 23:00
Something to aspire to!
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permalink #116 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Tue 22 Jan 02 06:09
permalink #116 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Tue 22 Jan 02 06:09
Adam--do sales pick up because of personal appearances? In other words, did you sell any at the Puppet Theater?
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permalink #117 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 06:21
permalink #117 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 06:21
They generally do-- like for example at the booksignings during Xmas we would sell around 20-25 copies. (At one Walden's they sold 50 copies!) At the puppet Showplace we didn't sell any. :o( Combination of the fact that the book is not related to puppetry at all, and I forgot to pitch it during my show!
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permalink #118 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 06:23
permalink #118 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 06:23
Oh yes, and the fact that most people there had nothing to do with Rhode Island. I bet that if we had the MASS A TO Z book, and I had pitched it, it would have done better. Just the simple but truthful fact about Regional books-- outside of your region nobody cares much. Inside your region, you are a valuable player.
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permalink #119 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 11:38
permalink #119 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 11:38
I just called most of our accounts to see how they were doing. Picked up 6 re-orders, with a promise of more re-orders in the next few weeks. That's 85 books!
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permalink #120 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Tue 22 Jan 02 12:45
permalink #120 of 228: David S. Greene (dsg) Tue 22 Jan 02 12:45
Refresh my memory. Is there a rundown of who your big customers are?
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permalink #121 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 13:09
permalink #121 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 13:09
Why David, our biggest (and most important) customer is YOU! :O) You can see who sells our books at <http://www.riatoz.com/stores.html> We're also available on-line at our website, or through Amazon.com We've got one Walden's store that has bought over 150 books so far! We've got a lot of stores that have reordered... Probably about half of the 65 stores that carry us have re-ordered (some multiple times)
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permalink #122 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Tue 22 Jan 02 13:24
permalink #122 of 228: Donna Atwood (bratwood) Tue 22 Jan 02 13:24
Big customers, heh. We weigh and measure them before we sell them the book. We charge the petite people full price. With each increase in height and weight, we discount the price a bit. "Hey, you're huge! Here, have a free book."
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permalink #123 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 22 Jan 02 18:23
permalink #123 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 22 Jan 02 18:23
I was thinking of going on a diet, but now I guess I won't!
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permalink #124 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 18:30
permalink #124 of 228: It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Tue 22 Jan 02 18:30
Be careful though-- if you get a free book, we charge you for the crayons (and you have to buy double, cuz we KNOW you are going to eat half of them!)
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permalink #125 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 22 Jan 02 18:56
permalink #125 of 228: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 22 Jan 02 18:56
I only eat the red ones. And well, okay, the purple ones. But that's all!
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