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permalink #151 of 1963: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Wed 10 Apr 02 12:38
    
Jouni-- GORGEOUS!  thank you for sharing your talent with us.
  
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permalink #152 of 1963: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Wed 10 Apr 02 13:40
    
Jouni: I have to chime in with kudos as well. Really, really well
done. I love the layouts and the style *a ton*. Really effective, and
also really nifty. Woo!
  
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permalink #153 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 10 Apr 02 20:31
    
Interesting yahoo article that Neil linked in his blogger - 

You know, I've become hooked on quite a few authors whose work I first
tried randomly because I found the first one used. When I was a kid, I
bought Something Wicked This Way Comes used, and have since bought
tons of Bradbury retail. There are less famous authors whose work I
probably never would have tried, but for a good word and a quarter
pricetag. If the writing is good, then I happily spend small fortunes
buying whatever I can from the author. 

But then, I do understand that most of them would rather you bought
their books retail immediately. Then they get the money whether the
book is worth the list price or not. I don't blame them, really.
  
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permalink #154 of 1963: Jade Walker (maidenfate) Wed 10 Apr 02 22:15
    
Jouni,

According to Yahoo!/Geocities: The Web site you are trying to access
has exceeded its allocated data transfer. 

To help alleviate this problem, you might want to decrease the size of
your graphics. Open them up in Photoshop and save 'em as .jpgs. Then
when the Image Options box pops up, choose 3 or 5 in the Quality area. 

If you need help creating a Next link on your site, feel free to
e-mail.

Jade Walker
  
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permalink #155 of 1963: la belle dame avec squeaks (miss-mousey) Thu 11 Apr 02 00:15
    
erynn - <waves hello>

DanW - It's funny how anti-social I really am, especially since most
people see me at clubs and in large crowds... goth clubs are a really
easy place to be by yourself. The large crowd thing, especially with a
bunch of people who are really nice and friendly, just tends to be
overly intimidating for me. 

Shawn - It's not so much that I'm out of place because I don't do
drugs. I only get to feeling awkward surrounded by the drugged and
heavily intoxicated because they tend to think I 'bring them down' when
I not only say 'no thanks', but continue telling them why I'm so
disgusted with them. It's not bad if it's just a bunch of friends
getting drunk at a holiday party. Then I just laugh because I won't be
hung over in the morning, and because I'll usually have blackmail
photos to develop. :)

Maure - We'd run out of sensors by the end of the day. ;) Actually,
usually our store policy for dealing with problem people is to sick me
on them. :)

squeaks, who is about as threatening as a fluffy kitten - mind the
teeth and needle-claws. DAMNIT! I want a kitty...
  
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permalink #156 of 1963: Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Thu 11 Apr 02 03:13
    
There is a good thing about insomnia, I've finally caught up with all
that has been written these past few months.

Maure -- the B&N trick is naughty and would be entirely too
satisfying. Good thing I no longer work at Borders.

Re: new vs used and taking the royalties from the authors.  
Basically I purchase books... new and used.  If it's an author I don't
know, I do hesitate spending the $25. I'll wait til it comes out in
soft cover, look for it used or check it out at the library (I was told
last year by a publicity person at a publishing house that they don't
send authors to libraries as part of a book tour. grrrr! This may be
changing, however Las Vegas isn't one of the cities on most tour
stops). Don't think I'm really all that different from the general
public. 

I don't think of it as cheating the author since they originally
received a payment and I'm not making money off it (yeah, I'm one of
those people who holds on to their books. When I do decide to weed, the
books get donated to the library). However, if it's an author I adore,
I usually have two or three formats of their titles on my bookshelves
and I DO spend a good portion of my paycheck on books at full price.
This is probably why we have more books, CDs & LPs than furniture. 

squeaks -- I'd second the owning a furball, or rather being adopted by
one. Mice and ratties are lovely... but they don't purr. 

Hmmm... it's late and I'm finally sleepy.

Suzanne
(Who thinks that used bookstores really should have cats and will
always purchase an item or two or three to support one that does.)
  
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permalink #157 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Thu 11 Apr 02 04:29
    
Squeaks,  you're right . . . we did run through an inordinate amount
of sensors.  No one seemed to notice, though. I suppose they figured we
were just ensuring extra security.

Suzanne,  I definitely love buying used books, but I see their point
as well - the book had been paid for by someone originally, but had I
bought it new, the author would have been sent money for that book too.
I buy used books all the time, but I tend to read them and pass them
on. If the book was really good, and I want to keep it, I buy myself
one retail, and give the used one to a friend to hook them. Or if I
bought a lovely hardback used, I'll buy a new copy or two to lend out
(like Neverwhere, for example, the paperback of which I never seem to
get back).
  
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permalink #158 of 1963: Jouni Koponen (jonl) Thu 11 Apr 02 06:40
    
Email from Jouni:

Neil -- Heehee... Thanks. Since my site can handle about 20-25 hits/hour (so
the nice people at Yahoo told me when all these people started bustin' in
through doors and windows) it will propably be too crowded for few days/weeks
(meaning those nice people at Yahoo will throw everybody out and shut the
place down for awhile every now and then), but thats OK... it's worth it.
Guess this is my fifteen minutes of fame... heehee!

Now, it was one of those weird I'm-in-sync-with-the-universe-moments when I
visited your journal AFTER I had asked about Babycakes and realized there was
a copyright discussion goin' on...

Jouni ('A gentleman from Finland')
  
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permalink #159 of 1963: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Thu 11 Apr 02 08:24
    
Jouni: if you need a place to host the comic without bandwidth
worries, I've got space to spare. Email me?

Maure: are you going to be in Evanston tonight? If so, shall we work
out a code so we can recognise one another?  You know, white or red
carnations, "the white duck fleis at midnight", that sort of thing? or,
erm, I can just, you know, tell you what I'm wearing and maybe meet at
a specific place and time....?

Everyone in Chicago for the con: The fabulous used bookshop "Shake,
Rattle and Read" on Broadway (one block North of Lawrence Ave., down
the street from the Riviera and Aragon theatres, and next tot eh
defunct Uptown Balaban and Katz movie palace) has a lovely grey cat
named Duchess. Also, Ric is insanely cool. But should you go on a field
trip, be prepared for cheesy, cheesy low-end porn magazines as well as
vintage pulps, every Rolling Stone ever published, records, and tons
of nifty paperbacks and hardcovers.
  
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permalink #160 of 1963: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Thu 11 Apr 02 10:31
    
Jouni - I tried to see Babycakes, but it looks like the site is a bit
too popular right now... I've bookmarked it and will try again until I
find the magic viewing time...

To any interested - I put up a pic of me as Einstein... it's at
http://206.184.124.35/daneinstein.jpg
For those of you who haven't seen me before, there's a pic of me as me
at my site at http://sj.znet.com/~macguru if you want to get an idea
of the difference.

Shawn - it might not have been a question of them thinking you weren't
trustworthy, but their own fear that you were judging *them*.... just
a thought.

Squeaks- the oddest thing about you being anti-social is that the few
friends of mine who *have* met you share my opinion that you're
super-nifty. For someone anti-social, you make a very good impression
on people.
  
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permalink #161 of 1963: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Thu 11 Apr 02 11:08
    
woo, I took the Endless test and I'm Death. Kinda surprising--I fully
expected Del, but I don't think I answred enough doggie questions.
  
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permalink #162 of 1963: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Thu 11 Apr 02 17:07
    
Did anybody else hear about the Blue Springs, Missouri, thing? Some
Republican legislator there managed to get $273,000 for a Youth Outreach
Unit "to combat Goth culture" on the grounds that it leads youth into
Bad Stuff, apparently.

Sheesh.

Here's the URL of one of the stories:

http://www.hannibal.net/stories/020202/new_0202020042.shtml
  
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permalink #163 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Thu 11 Apr 02 21:46
    
everyone,  I am at Tara's and it is sort of late, at least for me
because I got up at 4am. I was supposed to go back to the hotel for
JaNell and Ziggy, but I can't because I am tired now, and I have to go
home (or to sleep, because Tara keeps telling me her couch is
available, and she seems to be right). Tara and Mary are exceptionally
cool, and especially exuberant. My cell phone seems to be dying a
terrible death - I think I am poisonous to cell phones. 

lovely seeing the guests at horror con. lovely seeing neil, and lovely
meeting people and playing and eating yummy hummus.
  
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permalink #164 of 1963: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Thu 11 Apr 02 21:52
    
Maure is way nifty and peachy keen. Can I keep her?
  
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permalink #165 of 1963: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 11 Apr 02 22:24
    
Jouni -- sorry about posting: I should have thought about bandwidth
and all that. If you get it mirrored somewhere else I'll change the URL
on the blogger.

Maure -- I saw JaNell and Ziggy in the lobby as I came back, but was
too tired to think and stumbled off to find my room, which having found
I am too tired to leave, so I hope they aren't waiting up for you.

Everyone else: see previous comments about being too tired. Jill 
Thompson and Brian Azzarello took me to Katsu's (2651 W Peterson,
Chicago) for Sushi, which was world class. Goodnight.
  
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permalink #166 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Thu 11 Apr 02 23:55
    
Oh no. I hope they're not waiting up for me. 
  
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permalink #167 of 1963: Linda Castellani (castle) Fri 12 Apr 02 00:48
    
E-mail from Jouni:

Cough... cough...

(Risin' up from the wreckage wavin' a white flag)

Uhh... I've known that Neil's words are poverful things, but now I have some
REALLY concrete evidence about it. I mean those few words; 'You'll find it
here, about half-way down the page' knocked the poor little picture site out
cold in few minutes and since then the poor thing has gotten up, taken about
umpty-zillion hits and gone down again, gotten up, taken hits, gone down...
etc.

The effect is a bit like if the whole population of, let's say Chicago,
would've decited to drop by and check out the paintings on my livingroom
wall...

I think (hopefully) things will cool down within few days, but since then
the place will crowded.

Neil -- Hey, that's OK... really! I'm still very happy/flattered you put the
link in your journal. Only sad thing is that there's propably few thousand
people, who wanted to see the pics yesterday and weren't able to do that
(and only about 300 who could). BUT since there's awfully nice people in
here and in AFNG, who have already offered a helping hand (and web-space), I
think the problem can be solved rather soon (but propably not before monday
since I'm not here at weekends). I'll let you know...

Jouni (I didn't know havin' a website would be THIS EXCITING...)
  
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permalink #168 of 1963: la belle dame avec squeaks (miss-mousey) Fri 12 Apr 02 02:00
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permalink #169 of 1963: la belle dame avec squeaks (miss-mousey) Fri 12 Apr 02 02:06
    
previous post hidden due to goth-rantiness that I got a little carried
away with. In summary, seeing the article <lioness> posted shortly
after finding out that my friend was drugged at a 'normy' club (which
never would have happened among my spook friends) really ticked me off.

Dan - Wow. What a transformation! No wonder your friends didn't
recognize you.

Neil - Get rest... lots of it. I've been doing that a lot lately
(resting, that is) and it's amazing how well... uh, rested, I feel...
(I swear, that sounded less dumb in my head before I typed it - maybe I
need more rest)

squeaks, who will now relax by tending to a mouse or two
  
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permalink #170 of 1963: Jade Walker (maidenfate) Fri 12 Apr 02 02:14
    
Lioness - Thanks for bringing the topic up in this forum. I'm writing
a column on this topic and appreciate the commentary. I've got a call
into Graves office, and several local Missouri goths are talking to me
as well. For a group without any solid "leadership," the goth community
seem to have the same disapproving voice on this pork barrel
legislation.

Jade Walker
  
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permalink #171 of 1963: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Fri 12 Apr 02 02:25
    
The whole thing has me saying "Holy Shades of Fredric Wertham, Batman!"

(Jade, have you got the "Seduction of the Innocent" backstory and everything
already? I figure probably, but just in case, I mention it.)
  
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permalink #172 of 1963: double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Fri 12 Apr 02 02:28
    
And it's a good rant, squeaks, and I totally agree.  Sorry for unwinding-
down your evening, though. <apologetic expression>
  
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permalink #173 of 1963: Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Fri 12 Apr 02 07:50
    
A fine rant, Michelle.

I start thinking that Goth culture needs something between a CBLDF and
an anti-defamation league or a GLAAD.

Jouni -- I took down the URL rather than leave most pf the people
frustrated. Let me know when it's mirrored to somewhere that can cope
with the traffic.
  
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permalink #174 of 1963: Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Fri 12 Apr 02 09:36
    
Well, I'm Dream... although there was a bit of Desire and Destruction
thrown in there but the test just can't acknowledge the totality of my
being.

Combatting Goth Culture - The ironic thing is that idiocy like this is
what *encourages* people to wear black and be depressed about the
bleakness of the human condition.

Tara - you may only keep Maure if you promise to feed her and let her
out to see the rest of us from time to time.

Jouni - I finally got to see it yesterday. although I had to wait 45
minutes to see the last panel. *grin* 

Squeaks - you never need to hide your rants... because you're right.
  
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permalink #175 of 1963: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Fri 12 Apr 02 09:56
    
neil: Okay, with the fabu jouni's permission, I am mirroring Babycakes
at:

http://ljconstantine.com/babycakes
and
http://www.loony-archivist.com/babycakes

so link away, we shall see if my web hosts can survive 36,000 users :)

fabulous jouni: if you'd like me to add anything else to the pages,
lemme know?

Dan: Okay. And I'll even get her one of those big wheels...
  

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