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permalink #626 of 1963: Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Tue 18 Jun 02 13:33
permalink #626 of 1963: Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Tue 18 Jun 02 13:33
Dodge - I'd be happy to help you out on the Geography side of things as I am also a Texan and used to live in L.A. and have made that drive up to SF. Lengthwise it's pretty similar to driving from Dallas to Padre Island but much more scenic. That's a good and a bad thing because the way I've taken is over a few mountains which are lots of fun to drive through but more time consuming than flat Texan landscape. Speaking of trips, I just got back yesterday from Chicago all in one piece, but I spent most of the day in a hallucinatory daze. Much better today. Not much scenery in Illinois but the upside was getting plenty of time to listen Coraline on audiotape, of which I managed to snag the only copy from B&N before leaving Evanston. Neil - it's WONDERFUL! Lot's of fun and chilling to listen to at night, driving along the highway. My girlfriend was sleeping most of the time I listened but she insisted that she was woken up by every one of the rat's songs, just long enough to give her nightmares before falling back asleep. My only complaint is that the store didn't have any CD copies which I had intended to get.*sigh* Dan - The movie stills look very cool indeed. Do you know how it will be distributed? -Shawn- who wants 5 minutes alone in a smallish room with whoever designed Chicagos road system
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permalink #627 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Tue 18 Jun 02 13:45
permalink #627 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Tue 18 Jun 02 13:45
"-Shawn- who wants 5 minutes alone in a smallish room with whoever designed Chicagos road system" HA! Says the man from the state in which large, unfinished cities have largely unfinished highways with eight different names per half mile...
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permalink #628 of 1963: Cheaper than James Spader (stagewalker) Tue 18 Jun 02 14:10
permalink #628 of 1963: Cheaper than James Spader (stagewalker) Tue 18 Jun 02 14:10
Madman - Well, not for a bit.. but if everything works out, I'll be able to keep working in the same building... although I doubt I'll get to keep my office and my amazing view... *sigh* I'm going to miss being able to look to my right and see the City and the Bay Bridge every day... Shawn - I know there are a couple of film festivals we're already booked for, beyond that... I have no idea. I've already volunteered to do the commentary track for the DVD, though. *grin* Linda - if we don't have anyplace good to go, everyone's invited back to my place and we'll have something good a yummy... I promise. Dan
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permalink #629 of 1963: la belle dame avec squeaks (miss-mousey) Wed 19 Jun 02 01:17
permalink #629 of 1963: la belle dame avec squeaks (miss-mousey) Wed 19 Jun 02 01:17
I'll bring the Red Vines... KIDDING! :) I'm all for invading Dan's place, but that's mostly because I don't know of anyplace in Berkeley that's open late (being a non-drinker, I tend to not know where any of the bar-type-places-that-are-actually-open-past-nine are). Dan - good luck with the new job, sorry about the loss of the view! I know I look forward to our store opening up the 5th floor just so I can check out the scenery from a few floors up. :) And the film looks cool, keep us posted. squeaks, jealous of all the people listening to Coraline, while I lament my own refusal to buy one online earlier just because I'm not allowing myself use of my own credit cards for a while...
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permalink #630 of 1963: Patricia Clarkson (pclarkson) Wed 19 Jun 02 06:22
permalink #630 of 1963: Patricia Clarkson (pclarkson) Wed 19 Jun 02 06:22
Linda: No, not an official request. I thought I might have missed something (the last few weeks have been hectic-my son, Ben, graduated and then there was the party...). Dan: Good Luck!
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permalink #631 of 1963: Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Wed 19 Jun 02 07:32
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permalink #632 of 1963: Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Wed 19 Jun 02 07:37
permalink #632 of 1963: Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Wed 19 Jun 02 07:37
Maure - Ok, yes, our highways have been under construction roughly since Colonial times but it's all being done in the name of improvement. When all is said and done, we do really have very well paved and maintained roads. And the construction really isn't difficult or obtrusive at all. Well, unless you actually want to drive somewhere... And while our naming system might seem a bit eccentric to the outside observer it's actually very stimulating to the drivers mind, keeping you fresh and alert. Sort of like that card game, Memory, but played while hurtling along at 70 mph and trying to avoid suicidal pedestrians.*grins* Shawn - who is still learning all the street names and liking it damnit!
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permalink #633 of 1963: Dodge (hnowell) Wed 19 Jun 02 07:47
permalink #633 of 1963: Dodge (hnowell) Wed 19 Jun 02 07:47
Where are y'all talking about? You could be talking about Houston. The main freeways are always under construction somewhere. Now most of the streets downtown are under construction and you can't drive anywhere in Houston for more than 5 minutes without maneuvering around construction. Our freeways do at least keep their names straight unless you count the fact that each of them have several names and you almost have to be a native and own the original scorecard to figure out which one you're talking about. The one on the signs is never the one the person who's giving you directions is using.
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permalink #634 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 19 Jun 02 08:34
permalink #634 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 19 Jun 02 08:34
I love driving. With a passion, even. However, I have never in my life had such a difficult time with a city as I had with Houston. Dodge, you are precisely right -- no one gave us directions that bore any resemblence to the names of the highways posted. They'd tell us to take this, then that, and then whatsit -- all of which were the same highway. And I only mentioned the largely unfinished highways because Megan and I were worried I'd take a wrong turn and end up flying off the end of one of the reinforced-concrete loops that stopped abruptly mid-curve. Austin was much easier. But I do whole-heartedly agree, Chicago's highways are awful. Driving to work through Times Square just after every conceivable play and musical ended was less trouble than navigating the Eisenhower or the Kennedy in rush hour.
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permalink #635 of 1963: Cheaper than James Spader (stagewalker) Wed 19 Jun 02 11:59
permalink #635 of 1963: Cheaper than James Spader (stagewalker) Wed 19 Jun 02 11:59
Ok, let's just assume my place... it'll be easier than trying to find some place that's open late at night that isn't either: A. a bar B. a Denny's/Lyons so, I'll make sure to get the house stocked with food before the 2nd so we can actually relax and enjoy ourselves. Feel free to make food suggestions so that I have something on hand that you want to munch contentedly on... Neil, I realize that you've probably got plans, but you are (of course) welcome to join. I almost screwed up big time, in that I've been so distracted the last couple of days I kept forgetting to order MY ticket for the reading. I ordered it this morning though, so all should be well. *whew* Thanks all for the good wishes with the film. It's coming along, one shot at a time... like all projects, I'm enjoying it but will be glad when it's done. It's taking much, much longer than I was originally led to believe. As for Chicago... I avoided the highways for the most part. If I wasn't going out to Wheaton or something, I stayed on surface streets. Now, those are pretty cool. Chicago is a city that it's impossible to get lost in. Everything is north-south, east-west. The numbers all decrease as you head to downtown, so all you have to do is walk straight and you'll hit a main drag.
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permalink #636 of 1963: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Wed 19 Jun 02 12:06
permalink #636 of 1963: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Wed 19 Jun 02 12:06
Can someone remind me where to go to order tickets? I need to do that as well.
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permalink #637 of 1963: Mary Roane (the-roane) Wed 19 Jun 02 14:01
permalink #637 of 1963: Mary Roane (the-roane) Wed 19 Jun 02 14:01
Shawn--you have apparently discovered the truth of the saying that we have 3 seasons in Chicago--almost winter, winter, and construction. Sorry. Next time you're in town, let one of us (me, Tara, or Maure) know, and the Unusual Suspects will take you out for coffee. Or a roadmap ;-) I have my Coraline. The book, that is. Sometimes working in my office (which I normally can't stand) pays off. And Brad Finkbeiner is the greatest human being in the universe. Just in case you were wondering. Mary (who is reading Shadow & Claw by Gene Wolfe, but may have to put it on hold for a day)
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permalink #638 of 1963: meg (siozie) Wed 19 Jun 02 14:15
permalink #638 of 1963: meg (siozie) Wed 19 Jun 02 14:15
Re: Scary trousers store - Its awfully tempting to make an outfit of the Scary Trousers boxers! But I suspect that would be harder to spot than the lettering on the front of a t-shirt :) Dan - Very nice of you to offer your place for an after-party thingum! I hope I will be able to go, but I am bringing two others and I don't yet know what they will want to do. (Though I'd hope they will be tempted by the prospect of meeting so many new, fun people :) meg, who is still reeling from the 40+ posts since she last had a look
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permalink #639 of 1963: meg (siozie) Wed 19 Jun 02 14:22
permalink #639 of 1963: meg (siozie) Wed 19 Jun 02 14:22
Glen - What is the possibility of adding a Scary Trousers girly shirt to the store? They fit so much more comfortably for me than the regular tshirts... but if its trouble, then no worries!
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permalink #640 of 1963: Bill^2 (billbill) Wed 19 Jun 02 17:02
permalink #640 of 1963: Bill^2 (billbill) Wed 19 Jun 02 17:02
Wow!! EXCELLENT new site design, Neil. Kudos to the web folks.
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permalink #641 of 1963: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 19 Jun 02 17:17
permalink #641 of 1963: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 19 Jun 02 17:17
E-mail from Christy Smith: Hi, Jon, David, and/or Linda, Would you please forward this to the current Neil Gaiman topic (144, it appears)? Thank you! :) Madman -- it's on the Journal from yesterday, but I'll put it right here, too: http://www.codysbooks.com/coraline-reading.jsp . Hope all of you who want to go, get to! Sorry about the fly-by post -- I'll intro sometime later. Take care, all! Christy
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permalink #642 of 1963: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Wed 19 Jun 02 18:15
permalink #642 of 1963: "Et toi" is French, and so you're a crack muffin. (madman) Wed 19 Jun 02 18:15
Thanks Christy, in a fit of nice timing is was in the email newsletter from Neil's site.
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permalink #643 of 1963: la belle dame avec a fit of nice timing (miss-mousey) Wed 19 Jun 02 19:53
permalink #643 of 1963: la belle dame avec a fit of nice timing (miss-mousey) Wed 19 Jun 02 19:53
stagewalker - My food suggestion is that I actually bring something this time, instead of perpetually raiding your cupboards. ;) re: confusing roads - Funny, but I don't remember the roads being confusing in either Houston *or* Chicago. Granted, I didn't spend much time in either location, but I still remember getting around pretty easily. Now New Orleans, on the other hand, was designed by sad incompetent creatures governed by lesser chimpanzees. And don't even get me started on the potholes between the Garden District and the French Quarter (I think I nearly left my transmission and a good portion of an axle in one of them). Neil - Yay for the new site! squeaks, who is late for work as usual...
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permalink #644 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 19 Jun 02 21:19
permalink #644 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 19 Jun 02 21:19
Chicago solves the potholes problem by laying thick slabs of steel or iron over the hole. Yes, the roads are still bumpy, but instead of dipping down into a pothole, you shimmy back and forth over the sheet of metal. I don't know.
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permalink #645 of 1963: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 19 Jun 02 23:59
permalink #645 of 1963: Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 19 Jun 02 23:59
E-mail from Glen Seymour: Meg - I added the only girly listings they had. I hope it is what you wanted. Now I must go to bed to get up in time for the flight! - Glen
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permalink #646 of 1963: Daniel (dfowlkes) Thu 20 Jun 02 07:00
permalink #646 of 1963: Daniel (dfowlkes) Thu 20 Jun 02 07:00
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permalink #647 of 1963: Dodge (hnowell) Thu 20 Jun 02 07:08
permalink #647 of 1963: Dodge (hnowell) Thu 20 Jun 02 07:08
I know people in Houston who complain about potholes but I don't because I was here in Houston back in the 1980s before the groundwater problem was addressed. I saw a car two lanes over on a one-way street in downtown Houston sink into a hole that was opening up before it and the whole entire car slid into the hole. This was when the city got it's water by draining the groundwater of the area which resulted in the ground under the streets shrinking away from the concrete leaving large areas of empty "tunnels" under the streets. Some of the reason we have to do so much construction now. And, of course, there's the car problem. We have public transportation but I'll admit the mindset of most Houstonians is for ownership and use of personal automobiles. That walking a couple of blocks or so to the bus stop and standing around in the weather, and humidity, and heat, and sudden thunderstorms does tend to make you want your own air conditioned vehicle.
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permalink #648 of 1963: Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Thu 20 Jun 02 08:04
permalink #648 of 1963: Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Thu 20 Jun 02 08:04
Dodge - I've found that owning your own vehicle is a common mindset among most Texans. The reason being pretty simple: Texas is so damn BIG it's just unfeasible to go most places without your own transport. I was talking to a friend last night who was mentioning when he drove into Dallas from L.A. He hit El Paso and though "Hey, alright, I'm in Texas. Can't be too far now." 12 hours later he said he rolled into Dallas half-crazed from lack of scenery. Mary - many thanks for the invitation, and I'm looking forward to it, although I guarantee you that my next visit will be by plane.:) Maure - Yes I think about 1/3 of the pavement we covered up there was actually just those iron plates. Squeeks - Mardi Gras this year was my first venture into Nawlins, but it was a blast. I can't wait to go back next year, but the thing that I noticed more than the roads (which due to lack of Federal Highway funds are terrible) was the smell. The sort of swampy, decaying smell seems to hit you right between the eyes as you cross the state line. Thankfully, when you arrive in New Orleans during Mardi Gras that odor is immediately replaced by all sorts of new offensive smells, caused by weeks long nonstop partying.:) (If any of ya'll find yourself on Bourbon Street during these nights don't, I repeat DO NOT look down) Neil - I love the new frontpage of the website.
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permalink #649 of 1963: meg (siozie) Thu 20 Jun 02 10:31
permalink #649 of 1963: meg (siozie) Thu 20 Jun 02 10:31
Shawn - I hate to tell you, but even when it -isn't- Mardis Gras, Bourbon street smells the same, and is pretty crowded! Not MG crowded, but its still difficult to walk at a normal pace, for all the people. We went to New Orleans for our honeymoon, and stayed in the French Quarter - beginning of August, air thick and damp, and the smell of the river wafting through the air. We took a stroll down Bourbon St. one night, and when we got back to our rooms my skirt had a layer of filth all along the bottom edge, and my feet smelled atrocious! But, its all part of the experience :) Walking around the other parts of the French Quarter were just lovely, although we found we didn't get time to do any of the cemetaries, so we'll get back there one of these days.
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permalink #650 of 1963: meg (siozie) Thu 20 Jun 02 10:33
permalink #650 of 1963: meg (siozie) Thu 20 Jun 02 10:33
Glen, you are a sweetheart! *sends many chocolates and other goodies your way*
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