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permalink #1051 of 1963: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 30 Jul 02 19:46
permalink #1051 of 1963: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Tue 30 Jul 02 19:46
While I saw Tom Baker's Doctor first, I have to say that Troughton (Third Doctor) and Davidson (Fifth Doctor and my personal fave) are my faves, with McCoy (Seventh) being the nicest I have met (the man put live ferrets down his trousers. What's not to love?) and Paul McGann (Eight) being the sexiest. Never really cared for Pertwee (Third) and never had a chance to ever see Hartnell (One). However, gotta say, the Brig, Sarah Jane, and Romana (First)? Kickass companions. I coulda lived without K-9 and Adric, but I'll always have a soft spot for Tegan Jovanka... When I was about 17, I took great pride in being able to name all the actors who had played the Doctor. It was like beign able to remember all 7 Dwarves... (You had to include Peter Cushing (movies) and Hurndell (sp?) who played the First Doctor in "The Five Doctors" as Hartnell had passed away, or else you didn't "win.") Of course, when I was 17, I was writing "Robin of Sherwood" fanfic pretty much 24/7, listening to a single lone Mister Mister tape in my room for hours on end (it was the only cassette tape I owned--and my only records? Monkees albums. I was a WEIRD kid), and had a bigger comics collection than any boy I knew... Hee hee! Geek pride!
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permalink #1052 of 1963: Rocky (rocky-nyc) Tue 30 Jul 02 20:35
permalink #1052 of 1963: Rocky (rocky-nyc) Tue 30 Jul 02 20:35
Tara - I've always perceived that kind of "weirdness" a particular characteristic of adolescence that one tends to appreciate as one gets older. Looking back at the kid I was, loving comics, Greek tragedies, romance and science fiction novels when most of the girls I knew preferred Nancy Drew and Hardy Boy mysteries..I thank the gods for my trend towards the strange and outrageous. Takes a lot when you're forced to attend an all-girl Catholic high school. The tendencey towards weirdness reinforced my individuality and molded me into the kind of person I can live with. Truly. We geeks will inherit the earth. *evil grin*
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permalink #1053 of 1963: Just this guy (notshakespeare) Tue 30 Jul 02 20:39
permalink #1053 of 1963: Just this guy (notshakespeare) Tue 30 Jul 02 20:39
I loved K-9 and Adric was someone I could relate to. I watched way to much Tom Baker though, and I don't go out of my way to watch him now on PBS. From Davidson on though, I have to watch for the few episodes I still haven't seen. Speaking of authors and certain ages, it took me years growing up to figure out that Asimov's ideas were better than his characterizations. I think reading _I, Robot_ probably encouraged me to end up as a programmer. - Glen
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permalink #1054 of 1963: Kristina. Spelled with a (orangefae) Tue 30 Jul 02 20:48
permalink #1054 of 1963: Kristina. Spelled with a (orangefae) Tue 30 Jul 02 20:48
Skiffy...heeheehee. Heh- Mary- nice to hear that I'm not the only one who falls a little to hard into books. ^_~ Course I'm learning that Mr. Ford's writing does that to a person. I'm nearly done with Dragon. Just a chapter or two and it's on to the next adventure! Oh! Everyone's being slippery tonight! I Get that part about adolelescence Rocky. ^_^ Reading Brian Jaques was my high point in 4th grade. Then I went on to Jurassic Park while most of the girls were still obsessed with Babysitter's club. Have yet to read Asimov... I just got Nick Bantok's "Forgetting Room" in the mail today in beautiful condition. I feel so rich with all these wonderful new books to go to! I found treasure in Central Park today. It's a simple little wooden flute with some delicate leafy painted designs on it and the letter "c" painted near the mouth piece area. I'm convinced it was a gift from the faeries and put it in a place of honor in my room. ^_^ Off to dreamland. Quote O' the Day: "A bird does not sing because it has an answer. It sings because it has a song." Chinese Proverb Kristina
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permalink #1055 of 1963: Tracey woh still has all her original parts (jinx) Tue 30 Jul 02 22:10
permalink #1055 of 1963: Tracey woh still has all her original parts (jinx) Tue 30 Jul 02 22:10
I have to agree with streak on the Xanth novels. I read them at about the same age, but I read them for two reasons, the puns, and for a break between Bradbury, Heinlien, and Asimove. I needed something lighter. Maure, Belated congrats on the new place, you'll have to send me your new snail mail for the forethcoming housewarming pressie. I've made a vow to get better at my snail mail corspondance. Oh and I infected Bejeweled on afng I think. :) Tara, Davidson was my favorite as well, and I started watching "All Creatures Great and Small" cause he was on it. And I still have all my Monkee's LP's and have them all thanks to garage sales. On the heath front, apparently I have the wrong sort of pain for gallstones and it's off for a new round of tests. Jinx/Tracey/Hey you Kristina, I know that most females get into comics through Sandman, and pardon me Neil for this is no slight whatso ever, but I wish that more women would just go into comic stores period! :sigh: I've just been missing my store as of late I guess. Mary, moving to Connecticut, you'll have to let me show you around. :amazed that a Wellian will be in her neck of the woods:
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permalink #1056 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Tue 30 Jul 02 23:14
permalink #1056 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Tue 30 Jul 02 23:14
Gahan Wilson is charming, just charming. I loved listening to him. I've never seen Dr. Who. I spent most of my childhood at football games (my father is a coach), huddled at the bottom of a sleeping bag, reading Nancy Drew with a flashlight. I loved Nancy Drew books. I was one of Those Girls, I'm afraid (Disney and Nancy Drew -- although I harbored a secret fantasy fetish and read all the Anne McCaffrey I could get my hands on, and was given King's It to read when I was eleven by my deviant mother, to whom I am forever grateful). I thought I hated science fiction, and refused to read Harlan Ellison for years because people told me he wrote science fiction. Still not overly fond of space opera, but have learned not to rely on the pigeonholes in which writers are wedged. Jinx, thank you very much! oh no! really, it's not necessary, but how sweet of you! and Was that you?? I was bejeweled-obsessed for months. I mildly hate my LCS, and can't wait to move into the city so I have more choice in stores. I miss going into comic shops. Maure, looking for a recording of the Mercury Theater's 1938 Sherlock Holmes broadcast, and not having much luck.
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permalink #1057 of 1963: Chris Carroll (marvy) Wed 31 Jul 02 04:47
permalink #1057 of 1963: Chris Carroll (marvy) Wed 31 Jul 02 04:47
Funny, I've only seen one Dr. Who, the guy with the fuzzy mini afro and giant scarf (or did they all have giant scarves?). I went to netflix to add some to my list, searched on Dr. Who. Only two dvds, with some weird other Dr. Who that wasn't the one I remembered. But then they did that thing about "other dvds you might like". Turns out most of them are called Doctor Who, only the first two are Dr. Go figure.
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permalink #1058 of 1963: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Wed 31 Jul 02 09:29
permalink #1058 of 1963: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Wed 31 Jul 02 09:29
Hey is anyone here going to ComicCon? It looks like I might be going thanks to my work (talk about last minute). Anyway, just curious...is it worth it? Should I go? -Adriana "don't bother me, I'm sucked into Kavalier and Clay" Roze
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permalink #1059 of 1963: meg (siozie) Wed 31 Jul 02 12:10
permalink #1059 of 1963: meg (siozie) Wed 31 Jul 02 12:10
Maure - Don't worry, you weren't the only one who was reading Nancy Drew! My mother had four or five of the ones she had when she was a kid, that she gave me when I was 8 or 9. That is what started my rare/old book fetish, and it got me into 40's era girl detective novels. There were a few others I acquired over the years, but I don't have them anymore, and sadly can't recall the names. I just loved Nancy Drew, though. It is still a goal of mine to collect an entire set of the 40's publications. I still like Disney, too. Disney was always big in our house, my mom loved Disney movies, and I used to watch the short cartoons on cable after school. My childhood was mostly filled with books, and cartoons :)
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permalink #1060 of 1963: Daniel (dfowlkes) Wed 31 Jul 02 12:31
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permalink #1061 of 1963: Dodge (hnowell) Wed 31 Jul 02 13:08
permalink #1061 of 1963: Dodge (hnowell) Wed 31 Jul 02 13:08
My sister was a big Nancy Drew fan so natch, I read all her books. Me, I collected Cherry Ames. But then I got into SF and Agatha Christi and Ellery Queen and well, it seems I'll read anything you put in front of me. Voraciously.
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permalink #1062 of 1963: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Wed 31 Jul 02 14:38
permalink #1062 of 1963: Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Wed 31 Jul 02 14:38
Thanks for the tip, DanGuy. Looks like I'm going to go, on Saturday at least. This is my very first foray into the world of Cons. This year I went to my first Renn Faire too. Have I gone completely mad? What next? Do I even want to know? -Adriana "don't you dare tell me the ending of Kavalier and Clay since I haven't finished it yet" Roze
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permalink #1063 of 1963: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Wed 31 Jul 02 17:47
permalink #1063 of 1963: Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Wed 31 Jul 02 17:47
Maure: My mom read us the first 3 Nancy Drews when I was about 6, and I was a psycho fan until I was about 12, when I discovered YA fantasy novels... I think at abotu age 14, i read a bunch of Xanth novels, but really past the first two or three, didn't find them as fun or as funny. And I was never sure I liked how he wrote the girls in them. Of course, I sorta feel the same way about Spider's Callahan's Place stories--love love love the bar, but Spider's girls never quite seem as real as the guys, to me. jinx: I got into the Campion mystery series because of Davidson as well--and Margery Allingham is a fave, tho I admit I never got into any of the other detective fiction of that type, tho I am a rabid, rabid Chandler fan. I actually was into Superhero comics frm age 11 or so on--I remember reading comics in rotaing racks at the Waldens down the street from my father's office, and at the Dominicks. I specifically rememebr reading Titans because I remembered Deborah WInger as Wonder Girl from the 1970s ABC Wonder Woman series. I started reading Wonder Woman when DC relaunched it in 1987 or so, and that really was sorta my gateway to teh whole DC superhero book thing--I as reading almost all their mainstream superhero titles by the time I graduated high school. I picked up Sandman because I'd read and loved and adored Black Orchid and I think Arkham Asylum, and Dave's covers caught my eye. I started reading Hellblazer after falling in love with Constantine in Books of Magic. I also went to an all girls Catholic school, and boy oh boy, did being a comics freak cause me no end of grief. But as surreal as it was, being usually the lone girl in my local direct sales store (Larry's on Devon? Not a happy place for teenage girls.) I lucked out when I found COmcis For Heroes about a half-mile from my house. It was run by a wonderful woman named Linda Schein and her daughetrs and son--I even worked there for a summer when I was 15. I adored it, and once my mother was convinvced it wasn't an opium den (she had reservations becasue you couldn't see in the windows) I was dutifully dropped off there--or allowed to walk there--every Wed. night to get the new books. Adriana Roze: yay! which faire did you go see? Were there Swordsmen? I think Bolt Upright's home faire is Northern CA. I've heard for a tent faire, it's fun--tho it survives solely on the funds from Bristol, and makes almost no money of its own... I did learn that Wil Wheaton worked one of the CA faires for a while; that kinda entertains me bigly.
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permalink #1064 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 31 Jul 02 19:52
permalink #1064 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 31 Jul 02 19:52
Meg, Dodge, Tara, That's right! Nancy Drew readers of the WELL unite! Tara, my mom thought my first job was at an opium den, too! Isn't it funny how moms think? I mean, in my case, she was right . . . but . . . ::cough:: Dodge, I'm with you on the reading voraciously -- rapaciously even -- but there's two books I cannot finish for the life of me: Hesse's Glass Bead Game, and Baker's The Fermata. I despise the Glass Bead Game, and won't pick it up again if I can help it. The Fermata I pick up every other week or so, read three pages, and put it down again. I actually enjoy it while I'm reading it, but when I put it down, I am completely disinterested in continuing. But then, I'm flighty.
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permalink #1065 of 1963: I be Kristina (orangefae) Wed 31 Jul 02 19:56
permalink #1065 of 1963: I be Kristina (orangefae) Wed 31 Jul 02 19:56
Wow- I really missed out on the whole comic book thing growing up. (I think it was one of the many things my dad dissaproved of along with Ren and Stimpy, Simpsons, and Nintendo. Too many things to keep track of really...) Thank god for ex-boyfriend comic book geeks though! Where would I be without them. Adriana- glad you enjoyed the Faire!!! How big was it- and what kind of shows did it have? I'm really loving the NY Ren-fair. (course I didn't have much choice as I've never been to one before this. Yet one more thing Montana lacked)And ours is one of those really cool ones where they've built an entire village in this gorgeous forest valley. (I've probably mentioned that, but I don't care. It's still neat!) My goal is to see how many people I can get to baa like sheep at the Queen this weekend. Did yours have a whole backstory and plot and everything? And what kind of characters did it have? And as I never can resist an opportunity to plug my show. All you New Yorkers- if you have a free Saturday or Sunday hoof it on up to the New York Rennaissance faire in Tuxedo Park! I guarantee you'll be righteously entertained. I'll be the red-head with the sheep always looking for the Archbishop of Canterbury. (and I can get free tickets. wink, wink, nudge, nudge) Orange Fae's Quote O' the Day: "Courage does not always roar. Sometimes courage is the small, quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow." -Anonymous Kristina, who prays that she will fall into a time loop while she is sleeping and actually get a decent night's rest for once. Maure- You opium peddlers are so slippery! ^_~ I know how you feel. I'm the same way with Dracula. But I think I repeat myself again...maybe I am in a time loop already.
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permalink #1066 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 31 Jul 02 20:04
permalink #1066 of 1963: Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 31 Jul 02 20:04
Not only am I flighty, I'm a jinx it seems. Gothic.net bought a poem I submitted to them -- it was my first poem sale. Not a week after it is posted, there's an editorial hinting that gothic.net is going the way of the beloved dodo bird. So for my first poem sale, I may not actually get paid. Am I still a professional? And speaking of being a pro, is Pro out yet? Tara, you'd know I think. I should just call you and ask. Ha! Who's slippery now? It's the orange faery. I never really enjoyed Dracula, either, Kristina. Vampires always were my ultimate favorite monster (ask my mom what I wanted to be when I grew up), but Dracula's problem I think is that Stoker's voice is exactly the same for every character. I'll read halfway through a chapter and unless I particularly noted the name of the chapter (whose journal it is), I'll have to go back to find out, or go through a painful process of elimination (now who is not being talked about at all? could it be . . .).
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permalink #1067 of 1963: John M. Ford (johnmford) Wed 31 Jul 02 22:27
permalink #1067 of 1963: John M. Ford (johnmford) Wed 31 Jul 02 22:27
Chris -- the name of the series was always "Doctor Who," no abbreviation. I would guess that one of those DVDs is the first feature film, which -was- released (at least in the USA) which was released (at least in the USA) as "Dr. Who and the Daleks." Peter Cushing played the Doctor there, and in one sequel, but never on TV. The Doctor you're remembering was Tom Baker, the fourth actor in the part (not counting Cushing). he was the first in that particular outfit, with the scarf, though it survived (with variations) for the rest of the show's run (three more actors). Baker's the actor most Americans identify with the part, which I think is a matter of viewers identifying the part with whoever they saw first; the show was first aired widely in America during Baker's tenure, though it had appeared in limited areas before then. (I saw Jon Pertwee, Baker's immediate predecessor, first, on Chicago PBS.) Of course, I also think the show was at its peak of writing during the Baker period (others may violently disagree), which wouldn't hurt with the imprinting. Popular culture studies: the medieval monasticism of the new century.
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permalink #1068 of 1963: Tracey (jinx) Wed 31 Jul 02 22:49
permalink #1068 of 1963: Tracey (jinx) Wed 31 Jul 02 22:49
Dodge, was Cherry Ames the nurse in training? I seem to rememebr that, I was not so much a Nancy Drew fan, as a Bobbsie Twins fan, I had them from the 1920's, in fact still do. I love them. I also loved a series about children who lived in a boxcar, I think it was "Thr Boxcar Children" John, I lived in Elgin at the time Jon Pertwee became the Doctor, and having missed several episodes, and being too young to get the whole point I was mad, I liked Baker. I think it was chanel 2? Opium den,..well I was walking home from one of my first jobs and literally bumped into my old boss, and helped him pickup all the stuff I'd knocked out of his arms and the next thing I know I got a job. I started when I was 16, and managed a store by 20 or so. Damn that no insurance thing, or I'd still be a comic goddess
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permalink #1069 of 1963: Tree--dusting off the virtual cobwebs (jinx) Wed 31 Jul 02 23:19
permalink #1069 of 1963: Tree--dusting off the virtual cobwebs (jinx) Wed 31 Jul 02 23:19
Glen/Notshakespeare--Are you saying that Terry Nation and Douglas Adams are one and the same? Which would mean then that the children's book I'm looking for "Rebecca's World" by Terry Nation is actually a Douglas Adams book? No wonder it's so damn scarce and expensive... Tree Trying to recapture a bit of her childhood.
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permalink #1070 of 1963: too many posts! (miss-mousey) Thu 1 Aug 02 01:05
permalink #1070 of 1963: too many posts! (miss-mousey) Thu 1 Aug 02 01:05
jinxie - Damnit! I *knew* that evil little Bejewelled thing was your fault. Which means I guess I still have to get Maure back somehow. ;) wrt childhood geekery - My main geek factor was that I was born and raised in rural Washington state, and then moved to a California city. Apparently that made me the biggest 'hick' in most of my classes... which I find funny when you consider how many people at my former 'hick' school turned out to be cool (does anyone here even listen to Sleater Kinney?). As for books growing up? Couldn't stand any of them. Would only just barely tolerate the colour fairy books. When I finally did start finding books I actually liked, it was all Anne McCaffrey and Shakespeare. Then anything that required most high school students to have a dictionary nearby was fine. To this day I blame my father for my Neil-stuff addiction. One seemingly normal day he brought home a hardbound copy of the Dark Knight Returns and loaned it to me. I think I actually wandered into my first comic shop the next week. Took years for me to get into a habit of buying anything there, but Daddio put the bug in me. squeaks, who read the above 'tickets' as 'chickens'. ?
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permalink #1071 of 1963: Chris Carroll (marvy) Thu 1 Aug 02 04:57
permalink #1071 of 1963: Chris Carroll (marvy) Thu 1 Aug 02 04:57
Ah. Thanks for the Doctor Who edification, Tom.
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permalink #1072 of 1963: Glen Seymour (notshakespeare) Thu 1 Aug 02 08:40
permalink #1072 of 1963: Glen Seymour (notshakespeare) Thu 1 Aug 02 08:40
Actually, it appears that I have been misinformed. Terry Nation is really Terry Nation - and not a made up person at all. http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/N/htmlN/nationterry/nationterry.htm David Agnew is a pen name for Graham Williams and Douglas Adams who wrote City of Death and The Invasion of Time (Dr Who episodes). Douglas Adams is credited The Pirate Planet and Shada (more Dr Who episodes) and for being script editor for the 17th season.
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permalink #1073 of 1963: Dodge (hnowell) Thu 1 Aug 02 08:43
permalink #1073 of 1963: Dodge (hnowell) Thu 1 Aug 02 08:43
Yeah, Cherry Ames was the nurse. And, hey! Bobbsey Twins! Yes. Read those also. My fave comics was Wonder Woman and Aquaman - the old one with the blonde guy not the new one with the black haired guy. That kind of dates me I know... But then my mom wouldn't let me do any more comic book stuff and besides I got heavily into reading SF books then and dropped it. My son was into comic books and I still have some of his which I guess I should put out onto EBay now.
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permalink #1074 of 1963: la belle dame avec dictionnaire Francais-Anglais... and Tim Tams (miss-mousey) Thu 1 Aug 02 11:41
permalink #1074 of 1963: la belle dame avec dictionnaire Francais-Anglais... and Tim Tams (miss-mousey) Thu 1 Aug 02 11:41
If it makes you feel any better, I didn't even *know* Aquaman stopped having blonde hair. And I've managed to unintentionally remind myself that I need to get the rest of the Dark Knight Returns 2 for so my daddio can finish reading it (mostly I'm just hoping I'll force him back into the comic shops - seems only fair considering how much he's cost me there ;P). squeaks, eating Tim Tams for breakfast
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permalink #1075 of 1963: Daniel (dfowlkes) Thu 1 Aug 02 14:28
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