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Topic 157: Kathi Kamen Goldmark: "And My Shoes Keep Walking Back to You"
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Kathi Kamen Goldmark: "And My Shoes Keep Walking Back to You"
permalink #151 of 219: Casey Ellis (caseyell) Wed 4 Sep 02 19:11
permalink #151 of 219: Casey Ellis (caseyell) Wed 4 Sep 02 19:11
it does NOT amuse me that amazon still hasn't even sent out my copy.
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permalink #152 of 219: Betty Kamen (betty) Wed 4 Sep 02 20:31
permalink #152 of 219: Betty Kamen (betty) Wed 4 Sep 02 20:31
Although Kathi was an early reader, she was NOT reading yet at age one or one and a half. But she knew her music. She had a huge pile of plastic 45s, and the only way she could identify the song she wanted was to put each disk on the player, listen to the first two notes, and yank it off until she found the one she wanted. Seriously -- all it took was the first note or two.
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permalink #153 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Wed 4 Sep 02 22:51
permalink #153 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Wed 4 Sep 02 22:51
Hey, that was Tony, wasn't it? He used to throw the baby records on the floor till he found the Marvin Gaye single of "Hitch-hike"; Let's see--advice to songwriters: always keep a pen and some paper with you for the odd inspirational hit. I find that if you scribble something on a napkin and put it in your pocket you might not find it again for awhile, but if you stick it inside your bra you are bound to come across it again within 24 hours. don't be afraid to collaborate. 100 percent of nothing is nothing, and sometimes it takes another ear and a fresh brain to turn a bunch of couplets into a real song. Remember the "10% inspiration; 90% perspiration" rule. Most songs don't write themselves. Read a lot, and listen to a lot of music, to increase your vocabulary. Don't be afraid to write down something stupid. No one has to ever see it, and it might be the germ of a good idea. If you're stuck for a melody, pick an existing one and write your lyrics to it, then change the melody later, or find a collaborator who can do that. I went through a period (admittedly short) of writing every song to the tune of "Alley-Oop", then changing the tune. I'll probably think of more... And hey, I haven't received my amazon.com order yet either. What's up with that?
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permalink #154 of 219: Vegas Vixen (cynthiar) Thu 5 Sep 02 07:01
permalink #154 of 219: Vegas Vixen (cynthiar) Thu 5 Sep 02 07:01
Ahem. . . talk to your publisher. Sometimes Chronicle's orders are late.
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permalink #155 of 219: Elizabeth Churchill (leroy) Thu 5 Sep 02 07:45
permalink #155 of 219: Elizabeth Churchill (leroy) Thu 5 Sep 02 07:45
The Chronicle Books web site for Shoes really is great. I was looking at my actual book today and wondering why the little guitar lady wasn't bouncing up and down. One of the things I love about old country music is the humor, the puns, the word play. Even the saddest songs can be really funny. If I was to sit down today and write a song, what is it about the lyrics, independent of the melody and instrumentation, that would make it a country song and not just any old pop song? What makes country lyrics different from other genres?
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permalink #156 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Thu 5 Sep 02 08:38
permalink #156 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Thu 5 Sep 02 08:38
I don't know--it's partly the instrumentation and arrangements, but also the straightforwardness of the story telling. Country lyrics can be funny, sad, emotional, and corny, all at the same time. There's a heavy use of hook lines and catchy melodies that stick in your head. Look at one of my all-time favorite country lyrics: Not long ago you held our baby's bottle But the one you're holdin' now's a different kind You just sit and wait to be somebody's baby And it all depends on who will buy the wine That is simple, elegant, and totally corny story-telling! There's also a very visual quality to a lot of country lyrics. One of the contemporary songwriters who is very visually descriptive is Lucinda Williams. gotta get ready for work...more later!
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permalink #157 of 219: Elizabeth Churchill (leroy) Thu 5 Sep 02 09:01
permalink #157 of 219: Elizabeth Churchill (leroy) Thu 5 Sep 02 09:01
I once drove from Opelousas to Jackson Mississippi without a map, using only the words to a Lucinda Williams song. It seems to me that certain timeless themes run through country music: drinking, cheating, heartbreak, hard times. Trucks, maybe. Some word play and some bad grammar, a twangy accent and a raw edge of emotion, a dash of religion-tinged guilt. But you're right, it's harder than it looks to write a good song. (Miss Wanda's got me trying though; she really wants me to win you reading the passage about Peaches at her cafe.)
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permalink #158 of 219: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Thu 5 Sep 02 09:20
permalink #158 of 219: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Thu 5 Sep 02 09:20
Okay, I am here to whine because I was at Cody's last night for Dennis McNally's booksigning and was HOPING to pick up a copy of this book, but NOOOO, Cody's does not have it yet! I am bumming. Even though I'm supposed to interview Delbert McClinton in five minutes...
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permalink #159 of 219: Vegas Vixen (cynthiar) Thu 5 Sep 02 10:03
permalink #159 of 219: Vegas Vixen (cynthiar) Thu 5 Sep 02 10:03
LOVE Delbert. One of the greatest rockabilly albums extant: GEnuine Cowhide.
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permalink #160 of 219: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Thu 5 Sep 02 10:05
permalink #160 of 219: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Thu 5 Sep 02 10:05
This is just for a little news blurb about his new one, but I'm totally looking forward to it. Alas, his office says he's running late, so the suspense mounts at the Eisenhart house.
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permalink #161 of 219: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Thu 5 Sep 02 10:54
permalink #161 of 219: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Thu 5 Sep 02 10:54
To clear up an apparent misunderstanding, McNally's book was there in profusion, but "Shoes," no. Meanwhile, that Delbert, wotta phone voice <swoon>.
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permalink #162 of 219: Vegas Vixen (cynthiar) Thu 5 Sep 02 14:05
permalink #162 of 219: Vegas Vixen (cynthiar) Thu 5 Sep 02 14:05
Been listening to the local "hat boy" country station since I moved ot the desert. (no local version of KFOG, so I'm pretty bored) and the spate of patriotic songs since 9-11 has been fierce. Alan Jackson's "Where Were You When the World Stopped Turning" was played to death. A lot of nostalgia going on lately about old boats, a Chevvy that belonged to a dead Korean vet; lots of Vietnam (pronounced "naaam" not "nahm")and a lot of "God bless the USA" going on. country music is nothing if not the pulse of the nation, especially from the fly-over states.
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permalink #163 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Fri 6 Sep 02 08:22
permalink #163 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Fri 6 Sep 02 08:22
Are they playing the new one about the prison dog, Cyn? It's pretty funny--can't remember the artist or title though...
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permalink #164 of 219: David Gans (tnf) Fri 6 Sep 02 12:07
permalink #164 of 219: David Gans (tnf) Fri 6 Sep 02 12:07
Hey folks, our next interview is now in the spotlight, but there is no reason at all for this one to end. Please carry on! Off-WELL readers are invited to send questions or coments to inkwell- hosts@well.come for posting.
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permalink #165 of 219: Vegas Vixen (cynthiar) Fri 6 Sep 02 15:16
permalink #165 of 219: Vegas Vixen (cynthiar) Fri 6 Sep 02 15:16
Oh, you mean "Old Red?" Yup. That's the pup. Years ago, the Examiner published 300 "Lines to Leave Yer Lover By," and some of them were choice as in: I'd rather have a bottle in front of me instead of a frontal lobotomy. I'd need a bridge to get over you. Don't cry down my back, you'll rust my spurs.
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permalink #166 of 219: Nancy Montgomery (nan) Sat 7 Sep 02 08:34
permalink #166 of 219: Nancy Montgomery (nan) Sat 7 Sep 02 08:34
Mary, my SO and I are big Delbert fans and went on his 8th Delbert cruise last January. We already have our tickets for his next one this January. It's huge fun. You can check it out at www.delbert.com. Also, they have lots of other musicians on the cruise, including some who have written a lot of Nashville hits. One of the regular shows on the boat is a "singers and songwriters" show, where a few of the folks get together to sing the songs they've written, often ones other people have made famous. Kathi, wonder if this cruise holds possibilities for you...... Got my book from Amazon.com this week and they were very prompt in sending it.
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permalink #167 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Sat 7 Sep 02 09:09
permalink #167 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Sat 7 Sep 02 09:09
I finally got my amazon book too! I've heard about that Delbert Cruise--it sounds so totally fun.
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permalink #168 of 219: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Sat 7 Sep 02 13:43
permalink #168 of 219: Mary Eisenhart (marye) Sat 7 Sep 02 13:43
Yeah, we talked about it a little, and it does sound like a total blast.
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permalink #169 of 219: Nancy Montgomery (nan) Sat 7 Sep 02 16:32
permalink #169 of 219: Nancy Montgomery (nan) Sat 7 Sep 02 16:32
well, come on! There are still tickets left! lotsa fun to be had. some perfectly legal
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permalink #170 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Mon 9 Sep 02 04:31
permalink #170 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Mon 9 Sep 02 04:31
Well, maybe we just will! Hey everyone, it's time to move it on over for the next interview. It's been great fun, thanks! (The hosts say we can keep chatting if we wanna.)
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permalink #171 of 219: David Gans (tnf) Mon 9 Sep 02 12:19
permalink #171 of 219: David Gans (tnf) Mon 9 Sep 02 12:19
Please do!
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permalink #172 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Fri 13 Sep 02 09:10
permalink #172 of 219: Moist Howlette (kkg) Fri 13 Sep 02 09:10
I'm off to Chicago on Sunday to get Tony settled at college, then the book events begin on Friday Sept. 20. Thanks, Elizabeth, for doing a swell job on this interview--your questions were wonderful. And thanks everyone else, for chiming in.
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permalink #173 of 219: David Gans (tnf) Fri 13 Sep 02 09:40
permalink #173 of 219: David Gans (tnf) Fri 13 Sep 02 09:40
You have an insanely full schedule! Have a graet time, Kathi.
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permalink #174 of 219: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Fri 13 Sep 02 09:55
permalink #174 of 219: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Fri 13 Sep 02 09:55
Thanks, Kathi, it was a treat to have you here. And I'm looking forward to your reading up here in my neck of the woods (Thurs. Oct 3, 7 p.m., Copperfield's Books, 2316 Montgomery Drive, Santa Rosa, CA).
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permalink #175 of 219: Elizabeth Churchill (leroy) Fri 13 Sep 02 12:09
permalink #175 of 219: Elizabeth Churchill (leroy) Fri 13 Sep 02 12:09
Have a safe trip!
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