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permalink #76 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Thu 23 Jan 03 23:56
permalink #76 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Thu 23 Jan 03 23:56
Oliver, Thanks for the kindness. Haven't had the time to dig in to your Buckley book yet but loved your appearance on FMU, I think it was. In some ways the Rangers book was harder to do. I was friends with a lot of the musicians on the tour, the Ranger world, expect for two of the players who I had met at the Lone Star at a Kinky gig, was alien territory. Methodology wise, they were pretty similar. And in both books I included the whole supporting casts, groupies and all, as integral parts of the experience.
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permalink #77 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 00:00
permalink #77 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 00:00
RU You may be curious but RU serious? I'll never drop a dime on Dylan. Politically speaking though I think its fair to say that he's to the left of Kinky Friedman. But then again so was Genghis Khan.
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permalink #78 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 00:01
permalink #78 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 00:01
Dgault, Michael would have loved it only if the beer was Colt .45, tall cans.
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permalink #79 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 00:02
permalink #79 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 00:02
Dan, That Durango reference was to a trip he made there with Larry Keegan, his old childhood chum, who was in the audience that night.
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permalink #80 of 175: Oliver Trager (oliver-trager) Fri 24 Jan 03 03:31
permalink #80 of 175: Oliver Trager (oliver-trager) Fri 24 Jan 03 03:31
Ratso, Glad you caught the FMU appearance. We broke out the treasure chest for that one. What did you think of RT Bootleg Series song choice? Don't get me wrong, I loved the final product but there were a few songs I really missed: "Masterpiece," "Never Let Me Go, "Dark as a Dungeon," and of all, "Wild Mountain Thyme." With the extra space on each CD, some of these coulda been shoe-horned in. I guess they went for the mimicking of a real show rather than totality. It also occurs to me how much Bob must have dug the whistle-stop nature of RT. After all, hasn't the NET been a pared-down version of the former? -Oliver
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permalink #81 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 07:12
permalink #81 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 07:12
Oliver, The only song that I think is glaringly missing is Masterpiece.
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permalink #82 of 175: johnlee (johnlee) Fri 24 Jan 03 07:19
permalink #82 of 175: johnlee (johnlee) Fri 24 Jan 03 07:19
Was wondering why the whiteface getup for the RT tour.. and by the way did any of you see *this* bizzare picture of Dylan: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/030123/170/33m83.html& e=6
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permalink #83 of 175: the System Works (dgault) Fri 24 Jan 03 13:07
permalink #83 of 175: the System Works (dgault) Fri 24 Jan 03 13:07
<ratso>, I've missed meeting Dylan by 15 minutes 3 or 4 times in my life, one of em was when Michael and I went down to the corner store in some scuzzy Lower Manhattan neighborhood in 79 for a sixer of, you got it, Colt 45 talls, and missed Dylan's phone call. Michael called back, and whoever answered the phone heard me playing Michael's guitar and asked who it was, and Michael said "oh, that's Strummer Gault." That's my Bob Dylan story. Otherwise, with Michael, it was Stoli 100 proof over ice, in very large glasses. My head hurts just thinking about it.
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permalink #84 of 175: Michael Simmons (michaelsimmons) Fri 24 Jan 03 15:27
permalink #84 of 175: Michael Simmons (michaelsimmons) Fri 24 Jan 03 15:27
Rats, it's interesting that you mention Kinkstah's to-the-right-of-Genghis-Khan politics. I can no longer discuss the news with him without a tension convention convening. And yet he's always waxing about how yuppies have ruined the world and Abbie was a hero and the current generation are a bunch of sheep. I think Rambam's a bad influence. Saw Steve Earle last night at House of Blues in L.A. (sitting next to fellow WELLian Barry Smolin). He reminded me of Dylan in his singular melange of American musics and the way his voice inhabits the lyrics and slithers and snarls. Great show. Rodent-boy, can you give us a hint of what's contained in the Missing Chapters of OTRWBD?
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permalink #85 of 175: David Gans (tnf) Fri 24 Jan 03 16:02
permalink #85 of 175: David Gans (tnf) Fri 24 Jan 03 16:02
Rambam? I was a little late getting on the Steve Earle bus, but "Jerusalem" just knocked me out and I can't stop listening to it.
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permalink #86 of 175: Dan Mitchell (mitchell) Fri 24 Jan 03 21:22
permalink #86 of 175: Dan Mitchell (mitchell) Fri 24 Jan 03 21:22
I just read the passage in the Ratso book where Springsteen meets Dylan backstage (first time, I guess), and The Boss' girlfriend asks why he was wearing makeup. "I saw it in a movie once" says Bob. I'm nearly halfway through,and I'm geniunely intrigued by what I see as the central plot device: Will Ratso overcome the Evil Kemp? Also liked the switch to third person after Baez dubs thee Ratso. Question for Larry: A lot of the dialogue in here is presented as if it were verbatim. Long-ass passages of seemingly direct quotes, as if you were using a tape recorder, or swiftly taking notes, quoting both yourself and the person you are talking to. But then there's this passage where you are in your hotel room chugging expectorant and working the phones between Rolling Stone and Kemp. After a long passage of dialogue with Kemp, you say "Ratso reluctantly gets out a pen..." Does that mean you weren't taking notes before that? Should we assume a lot of this dialogue is done Woodward style -- recreated later? I don't necessarily have a problem with it, as long as it hews to the truth and manner of the conversations, which I assume it does. But I'm curious.
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permalink #87 of 175: Dan Lynch (ndjd88) Fri 24 Jan 03 21:32
permalink #87 of 175: Dan Lynch (ndjd88) Fri 24 Jan 03 21:32
I was curious at to why the circa-1975 description of the Bleeker Street scene didn't include Art D'Lugoff's Village Gate. That club was a pretty big player in that area in the 1970's, all the way through to the closing in 1993.
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permalink #88 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 21:35
permalink #88 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 21:35
Dan I think I answered that earlier in the thread...I both took voluminous notes and taped every damned conversation. I still have both the notebooks and the casette tapes. Mikey I can't remember what was cut out and I haven't looked at it in twenty years. But I'm sure it was good!
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permalink #89 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 21:36
permalink #89 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Fri 24 Jan 03 21:36
Dan Art is a friend and I've been to the former Gate many times but when Dylan came back in '75 none of the action was centered there. It was all at Colby's place and Menachem's restaurant around the corner.
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permalink #90 of 175: Dan Lynch (ndjd88) Fri 24 Jan 03 22:08
permalink #90 of 175: Dan Lynch (ndjd88) Fri 24 Jan 03 22:08
I'm glad to hear that is was an omission of circumstance, rather than anything else. Art is a great guy, and the Village Gate was an institution that did NYC proud. There's a book waiting to be written about that place!
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permalink #91 of 175: Michael Simmons (michaelsimmons) Fri 24 Jan 03 22:22
permalink #91 of 175: Michael Simmons (michaelsimmons) Fri 24 Jan 03 22:22
Gans: Rambam is a friend of Kinky's, a character in his mystery novels (along with Ratso, who is always the second lead character after Kinky hisself, and occasionally me) and politically far right (as opposed to far out). By the way, some of you may interested in hearing that, according to an informed source, Dylan is a huge fan of our pal Stew's "Naked Dutch Painter" solo album. I will entertain everyone (or try to) with one of my favorite stories. Me 'n' Ratso's mutual friend Downtown Cheryl (known as Downtown Judy in Kinky's books) got into an office building elevator in NYC several years ago. A man got on the next floor and Cheryl looked up and realized (or so she thought) that it was Ratso. "Ratso?", asked Cheryl. "It's me, Cheryl." The man looked at her and he wryly smiled. She realized that it wasn't Ratso. "You think I'm Ratso?", the bemused man inquired. "Do I remind you of him?" Cheryl phumphered and apologized and said at first glance he looked like a friend of hers. "I'm not Ratso", said the man, now laughing, as he got off the next floor. As the elevator doors closed, Cheryl realized that the man was Bob Dylan and later found out that Dylan's lawyer had offices in that building. Rats, aren't there other instances where people thought YOU were Bob?
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permalink #92 of 175: David Gans (tnf) Sat 25 Jan 03 02:13
permalink #92 of 175: David Gans (tnf) Sat 25 Jan 03 02:13
I wonder what Bob thought of being mistaken for Ratso! > By the way, some of you may interested in hearing that, according to an > informed source, Dylan is a huge fan of our pal Stew's "Naked Dutch > Painter" solo album. That makes me very happy! I just got home from a gig here in Oakland, in which I opened for Stew, who opened with "The Naked Dutch Painter."
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permalink #93 of 175: an oceanic sofa of bliss (sd) Sun 26 Jan 03 04:39
permalink #93 of 175: an oceanic sofa of bliss (sd) Sun 26 Jan 03 04:39
i want to hear him sing absolutly french marie
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permalink #94 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Sun 26 Jan 03 09:02
permalink #94 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Sun 26 Jan 03 09:02
Check out the reviews of Masked and Anonymous today. It's a lynch mob.
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permalink #95 of 175: Dan Levy (danlevy) Sun 26 Jan 03 10:18
permalink #95 of 175: Dan Levy (danlevy) Sun 26 Jan 03 10:18
They're beating the devil out of a guy Who's wearing a powder-blue wig
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permalink #96 of 175: an oceanic sofa of bliss (sd) Sun 26 Jan 03 12:55
permalink #96 of 175: an oceanic sofa of bliss (sd) Sun 26 Jan 03 12:55
two masked clips on bobdylan.com
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permalink #97 of 175: Michael Simmons (michaelsimmons) Sun 26 Jan 03 21:27
permalink #97 of 175: Michael Simmons (michaelsimmons) Sun 26 Jan 03 21:27
What is Masked and Anonymous?
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permalink #98 of 175: David Gans (tnf) Sun 26 Jan 03 22:21
permalink #98 of 175: David Gans (tnf) Sun 26 Jan 03 22:21
http://www.maskedandanonymous-themovie.com/
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permalink #99 of 175: outside the law and honest (tbessoir) Mon 27 Jan 03 05:57
permalink #99 of 175: outside the law and honest (tbessoir) Mon 27 Jan 03 05:57
How did it happen that the Hurricane benefit at Madison Square Garden was not filmed?
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permalink #100 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Mon 27 Jan 03 09:41
permalink #100 of 175: Larry Ratso Sloman (ratsosloman) Mon 27 Jan 03 09:41
I'm sure it was filmed. I don't remember whether they did a sophisticated sound recording of the show like they did for the shows that comprise the new album. The film crew filmed everything.
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