inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #101 of 164: David Gans (tnf) Sat 2 Aug 03 12:24
    

Hey, do the folks on the 2400 Fulton list know about this interview?  Let's
hear ffrom you -- send questions or comments to inkwell-hosts@well.com
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #102 of 164: Gerry Feeney (gerry) Sat 2 Aug 03 19:25
    
>>I had no idea there was a Starship between about 1979 and
> the Airplane reunion in 1989 until I read your book!<
>
> Let's just say you didn't miss much...

Well, there was something worse than Starship:  That torturous ballad
by Marty Balin that mysteriously persisted on the radio for weeks and
weeks and weeks (about '81 or '82).  They must have shelled out a lot
of payola to get it that much airplay.  Did it actually sell?  I still
think that's the worst record ever produced.  And I actually liked
Balin's voice before that.  (I forget the name of that thing - "Hearts"
was it?)  The second-worst song ever is clearly, "Ride the Tiger."

But _Surrealistic Pillow_ remains one of my "desert island" choices.
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #103 of 164: David Gans (tnf) Sat 2 Aug 03 19:36
    
I totally agree withyour last statement, gerry, and I totally disagree with
your first.  I haven't listened to it inn quote a while, but I recall really
liking "Hearts."
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #104 of 164: Jacques Delaguerre http://www.delaguerre.com/delaguerre/ (jax) Sat 2 Aug 03 20:14
    
"Ride the Tiger" was on Red Octopus. Is the Balin thing you hate
"Miracles" (7 mins. on RO, 3.55 on the single edited down from it)?
That's his best musical composition, though my favorite Balin vocal
remains "Today".
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #105 of 164: Gerry Feeney (gerry) Sat 2 Aug 03 20:22
    
Hmmm...  Gans, I tend to respect your opinion on matters of music, so
I'm sitting up and taking notice.  Are we talking about the same thing?
 I'm not sure I got the title right, but it was a ballad - a tedious
ballad - with words "Is everything alright..."  Maybe it's just me, but
it grated on me something terrible.

slippage from <jax> -- Yes, "Today" definitely - I loved it since
1967.
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #106 of 164: David Gans (tnf) Sat 2 Aug 03 22:55
    
That's the song, Gerry.  It;'s no "Today," but I liked it.
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #107 of 164: Gerry Feeney (gerry) Sun 3 Aug 03 05:23
    
And there we have it - further proof that I'm an oddball.     ;-)

As my dad used to say, "That's why they make different kinds of
whiskey."
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #108 of 164: Jeff Tamarkin (jefftamarkin) Sun 3 Aug 03 06:23
    
Well, I like "Hearts" and I really, really like "Ride the Tiger," so
there ya go. A matter of taste, I suppose. I can see where some people
might find some of Marty's ballads a bit on the mawkish side but I've
never encountered anyone who thought "Ride the Tiger" was a lousy song.
What is it that you don't like about it? It's got one of the great
all-time Chaquico guitar riffs and it soars throughout--JS used it to
open their shows for a long time. It was on "Dragon Fly," by the way,
not "Red Octopus." Are you sure that's the song you're thinking of?
I'll grant you that the line "Look to the summer of '75, whole world is
gonna come alive" is a bit silly (especially in retrospect--I think
disco was the only thing that came alive) but I still find the song
thrilling.

I'll tell you what marty song I don't like: "Summer of Love," of the
'89 Airplane reunion album. 
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #109 of 164: Life Is Easy When Considered From Another Point Of View (dam) Sun 3 Aug 03 07:16
    
one of my favorite starship moment....band is playing the universal
amphitheatre....the band is yelling "fuck you, we do what we want"....paul
is on his knees pounding his fist on the stage.

ah, the good old days!   %)
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #110 of 164: Berliner (captward) Sun 3 Aug 03 10:30
    
(Didn't Frampton come alive in '75?)
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #111 of 164: David Freiberg (freemountain) Sun 3 Aug 03 11:24
    
Oooooooh ... that hurts!
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #112 of 164: Berliner (captward) Sun 3 Aug 03 11:35
    
Only if you listen to it, David. 
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #113 of 164: Gerald Feene (gerry) Sun 3 Aug 03 14:30
    <scribbled by gerry Sun 3 Aug 03 14:37>
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #114 of 164: Gerald Feene (gerry) Sun 3 Aug 03 14:37
    <scribbled by gerry Sun 3 Aug 03 14:38>
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #115 of 164: Gerry Feeney (gerry) Sun 3 Aug 03 14:38
    
Now that I think of it, "Ride the Tiger" wasn't that bad.  I liked it
until I paid attention to the lyrics.  I didn't want to hear it
anymore after that.  I thought the words were dumb.

"Black wants out of the streets 
Yellow wants the country 
Red wants the country back 
And white wants out of this world 
Sing - sing to the sky 
I want to ride the tiger... 

"...It's like a tear in the hands of a western man 
Tell you about salt, carbon and water 
But a tear to an oriental man 
He'll tell you about sadness and sorrow or the love of a man and 
a woman." 
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #116 of 164: flower bomb song (sd) Sun 3 Aug 03 17:20
    
Jeff, 
good, good stuff. just read the first half of the book in one sitting.
i appreciate the notes about where to find the songs (and versions of
songs) that you mention in the text. its also nice that you provide
pronunciations for some of the names involved.
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #117 of 164: Jeff Tamarkin (jefftamarkin) Mon 4 Aug 03 07:02
    
>"...It's like a tear in the hands of a western man 
Tell you about salt, carbon and water 
But a tear to an oriental man 
He'll tell you about sadness and sorrow or the love of a man and 
a woman." <


I love that verse! This was from Paul and Grace's big Chinese period,
by the way. They were really into kung fu and all that stuff, and of
course named their daughter China. They had a karate teacher named
Byong Yu (which is where the song title "Be Young You" came from) and
he actually gave Paul those words and Paul used them in the song.


OK, now who's using Flower Bomb Song as their ID here? What a hoot.
That song makes my book too. And despite Crosby's protestations, the
Airplane definitely performed it, though I've yet to come across any
tapes of it. Glad you like the book--I felt I had to give the
pronunciations. Having heard all sorts of variations on my own last
name, I can only imagine what poor Craig Chaquico and Jorma Kaukonen
have gone through!
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #118 of 164: Joyce Richards (joyceincali) Mon 4 Aug 03 08:54
    
Re: # 101, I wouldn't think you'd want any comments/questions from
Fultonites here, right, Jeff?? ;-)
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #119 of 164: David Gans (tnf) Mon 4 Aug 03 09:30
    
Why not?
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #120 of 164: Jeff Tamarkin (jefftamarkin) Mon 4 Aug 03 14:43
    
>Re: # 101, I wouldn't think you'd want any comments/questions from
Fultonites here, right, Jeff?? ;-)<

Hi Joyce, of course we do! Especially from you. Except maybe let's
stay away from the events of the last couple of days because no one
here will probably care. (I can hear Gans thinking, what events? Of
course we care. But trust me, you probably don't.)
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #121 of 164: David Gans (tnf) Mon 4 Aug 03 14:52
    
Uh-oh.
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #122 of 164: Jacques Delaguerre http://www.delaguerre.com/delaguerre/ (jax) Mon 4 Aug 03 16:49
    
Hold him upside down and give him a pink belly until he tells :-)
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #123 of 164: David Gans (tnf) Mon 4 Aug 03 18:02
    
Let's not.
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #124 of 164: Flower Bomb Song (sd) Mon 4 Aug 03 18:32
    
Its great that you talk about who wrote what and how.
I think I had pictures of Marty's stuff, for example, being pretty but
sometimes sorta wimpy and then you noted that he wrote "If You Feel"
one of my favorites and pretty blang blam. And, Volunteers, AND Crown
of Creation...
  
inkwell.vue.189 : Jeff Tamarkin, "Got a Revolution: The Turbulent Flight of Jefferson Airplane"
permalink #125 of 164: Joyce Richards (joyceincali) Mon 4 Aug 03 21:26
    
OK, Jeff.  Let's dish.  What's your take on Marty not wanting to do
Grace??
  

More...



Members: Enter the conference to participate

Subscribe to an RSS 2.0 feed of new responses in this topic RSS feed of new responses

 
   Join Us
 
Home | Learn About | Conferences | Member Pages | Mail | Store | Services & Help | Password | Join Us

Twitter G+ Facebook