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permalink #101 of 181: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 21 Mar 04 14:25
permalink #101 of 181: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 21 Mar 04 14:25
I'm guessing because nuts are often sold in 16 oz. packages.
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permalink #102 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Sun 21 Mar 04 16:04
permalink #102 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Sun 21 Mar 04 16:04
soukup is exactly correct. Nuts typically come packed in 8oz or 16oz bags, plus some people enjoy buying in bulk and it is easier to weigh out a pound that to eyeball 3 cups. rosebud - I hope you enjoy the white chili, that's one of my favorites for lazy weekend entertaining. People love to personalize their bowls (cheese, olives, jalapenos), plus since we wrote the book I have found a delicious low carb tortilla chip (brandname = RW Garcia, Lo Carb Garcia Lo's - corn, soy and flax tortilla chips, 9 net carbs per ounce). FYI - if you do not own a kitchen scale, it is a worthwhile investment especially with all the new low-carb snack foods coming out. I always find it best to weigh out my portion as to not over do it and eat too many carbs.
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permalink #103 of 181: Catie McIntyre Walker (rosebud) Sun 21 Mar 04 16:22
permalink #103 of 181: Catie McIntyre Walker (rosebud) Sun 21 Mar 04 16:22
Yes, I have a kitchen scale. When you read the boxes or bags for serving sizes and then weigh them, it is interesting to see how small a serving size is.
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permalink #104 of 181: look, it's all right there in front of you... (cmf) Mon 22 Mar 04 06:40
permalink #104 of 181: look, it's all right there in front of you... (cmf) Mon 22 Mar 04 06:40
Kim... do you have a recommendation for a scale? I'm always leery about the $8 Target job and yet don't really want to part with $30 or $40 for digital...
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permalink #105 of 181: (rosebud) Mon 22 Mar 04 09:23
permalink #105 of 181: (rosebud) Mon 22 Mar 04 09:23
I bought mine from Weight Watchers. The white chili was very good. I can also see it as a spring board recipe by adding all sorts of other goodness. Good flavor.
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permalink #106 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Mon 22 Mar 04 09:43
permalink #106 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Mon 22 Mar 04 09:43
The kitchen scale that I use is a commercial manual kitchen scale. I have had it for 10 years. It weighs up to 32 oz and the brand name is pelouze. You could definitely find it in a restaurant supply store or perhaps on-line. Try e-bay. It is kind of retro looking and I use it all the time (for recipe development) so it has a permanent place in my kitchen. You could also do a search on amazon for kitchen scales and read the customer reviews. Kitty might also have some insight here.
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permalink #107 of 181: look, it's all right there in front of you... (cmf) Mon 22 Mar 04 11:29
permalink #107 of 181: look, it's all right there in front of you... (cmf) Mon 22 Mar 04 11:29
The process of writing a cookbook has to be interesting. Can you share some of your highs and lows? Did you have that one recipe you really wanted to work, but didn't? Or what about recipes that didn't quite make the cut?
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permalink #108 of 181: Kitty Broihier (kittybroihier) Mon 22 Mar 04 12:22
permalink #108 of 181: Kitty Broihier (kittybroihier) Mon 22 Mar 04 12:22
I just bought a kitchen scale a few months ago and I really like it. The brand name is Salter and it's super easy to work, clean and read (it's digital). I can't remember the exact price, but I found it in Chef's catalog, and ended up buying it online from another place cheaper...I want to say it was about $30.
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permalink #109 of 181: Kitty Broihier (kittybroihier) Mon 22 Mar 04 12:25
permalink #109 of 181: Kitty Broihier (kittybroihier) Mon 22 Mar 04 12:25
One of the high points of writing a cookbook is, of course, having all that great food around for your family (and yourself). A lot point is that the cost of ingredients is up to the author/s to bear...it's not reimbursed or anything. So, if an expensive recipe needs more than a few go-arounds, it really eats into your profits/advance, etc. Kim did most of the recipe developing for this book, and I'm sure has lots of fond--and not so fond--memories of that experience. Working together made it a lot of fun for us, as both of our households got fed all last summer!
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permalink #110 of 181: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Mon 22 Mar 04 16:09
permalink #110 of 181: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Mon 22 Mar 04 16:09
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permalink #111 of 181: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Mon 22 Mar 04 16:10
permalink #111 of 181: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Mon 22 Mar 04 16:10
Thanks, Kim, for the pointer to the berry sauce recipe. Yum! I look forward to reaching "maintenance" stage of low-carbing so I can try it out.
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permalink #112 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Mon 22 Mar 04 18:21
permalink #112 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Mon 22 Mar 04 18:21
Highs: Working with Kitty was definitely a high point. She is a great writer and organizer. She is also a very skilled recipe writer who is extremely good at taming the creative chef in me. We are both mothers and can easily relate to what the other is going through. It is truly a wonderful collaboration. Discovering how great slow cookers roast nuts. I am a HUGE fan of nuts, particularly almonds, and I just found the slow cooker such a great, practically fail-proof appliance for cooking them. Stuffed Cabbage Soup - My mom makes me stuffed cabbage every year for my birthday. It is honestly one of my favorite dishes in the whole world. I do not make it myself because I find all of the steps a bit too tedious. With two young children, a husband who works the graveyard shift and a part-time job, there's no time to roll cabbage. My Russian grandmother is rolling her eyes ups up in heaven. When my mom tasted the stuffed cabbage soup, that was largely inspired from her recipe, she proclaimed, "It tastes just like my stuffed cabbage." I smiled a huge grin and knew that we had succeeded. Thanksgiving Anytime Turkey Breast - I love the total simplicity of this recipe. I also love the leftovers. We use them for sandwiches, soup and turkey salad. Lows: Dishes, dishes and more dishes. When you are using four slow cookers at a time, there is ALWAYS something to wash and we do not have an automatic dishwasher. My poor husband did the vast majority of the dishes, but we never felt like we were finished washing dishes. When Kitty and I finished the book, my husband cheerfully put away all of the slow cookers and we grilled for a week straight. I have since given one a permanent place in my kitchen. I have to keep it handy for all the almonds that I cook. Chicken with Exotic Mushrooms - This dish is in the easy prep chapter, but let me tell you. Its development was not very easy. At least six attempts went into this dish before I was happy with it. I think I have some of the failures still in my freezer. Food Costs - a tough part of the cookbook world is the fact that the cookbook author is responsible for all of the food costs associated with writing the recipes for the book. With slow cookers, there is no such thing as halving a recipe for testing purposes as one might do when developing a salad dressing recipe. Slow cooker recipe development is all or nothing and boy does it add up. Of course, you consume the majority of the food, so do your neighbors, friends and family, but it is still a huge chunk of change. In general, writing this book was both humbling and gratifying at the same time. It really made me take stock in all of the fantastic people who have supported and influenced me. Writing a cookbook definitely makes you feel proud.
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permalink #113 of 181: Sharon Lynne Fisher (slf) Tue 23 Mar 04 04:56
permalink #113 of 181: Sharon Lynne Fisher (slf) Tue 23 Mar 04 04:56
What was the process of selling the book? Did you write it first and then sell it? Sell it first and then write it? How did you go about that? Did you use an agent? How hard is it to sell Yet Another Cookbook? etc.
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permalink #114 of 181: Kitty Broihier (kittybroihier) Tue 23 Mar 04 05:40
permalink #114 of 181: Kitty Broihier (kittybroihier) Tue 23 Mar 04 05:40
The selling of a book is always best one before one has put in the time, effort and sweat into writing it. The same goes for cookbooks. Usually one has an agent (they're not that hard to find, there are many books that list agents and their specialties, etc.). The trick is getting the agent to like your idea, and for that a proposal is usually needed. I've written book proposals before, and a good agent will critique it and help shape it and guide you through the process so that you have the best "package" to sell, otherwise neither of you will get anywhere. This book that Kim and I did was unusual in that the editor at Marlowe came up with the idea (a great one!) and was chatting with our agent (whom I already knew, but had yet to sell a book with) and asked if she knew of anyone who would be a good author for it. I was not the first choice of my agent, but the person she contacted did recommend me for the job, so after finding Kim to help me, we accepted the project. Sometimes you get lucky. Now that we've done this book, our agent knows we work well together, meet deadlines with no problems, and take it seriously, trying to always put out the best product, so she has no qualms about suggesting us for other projects that come across her desk. Our next book, with a different publishing house, happened for us again because of a conversation between our agent and the editor...again, no formal proposal needed from us. Twice lucky that department! Once you've done something decent, you can also call up one of your old editors (as long as they' liked your book and it sold pretty well, that is), and suggest another idea. That's another way I've done it and succeeded in selling a book idea with a formal proposal. This is definitely NOT the norm for most authors, but it seems to be the way that I get my books contracted. So, I guess the first lesson to be learned here is to find an agent you love, who likes you and your work, and who is well-regarded in the area in which you write (cookbook, mystery, etc.)
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permalink #115 of 181: Steven Geoffrey Sak (ssak) Tue 23 Mar 04 06:59
permalink #115 of 181: Steven Geoffrey Sak (ssak) Tue 23 Mar 04 06:59
FYI, I just bought a rival crockpot and tried one of the included recipies. It was done in under 8 hours instead of 10-12 as indicated in the recipe. I called rival and was told that they have changed the heating element and for some reason you now need to knock 2 hours off the recipies. Sooooo, what other brand of crockpot do you suggest? Is it worth it to get a programmable one? The one I got (and will rpobably end up returning was a 6 qt oval programmable).
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permalink #116 of 181: Sharon Lynne Fisher (slf) Tue 23 Mar 04 09:43
permalink #116 of 181: Sharon Lynne Fisher (slf) Tue 23 Mar 04 09:43
That's pretty much how I got my book contract as well. So what's next? Did you say low carb dessert book? How do you get the ideas for recipes to begin with?
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permalink #117 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Tue 23 Mar 04 11:10
permalink #117 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Tue 23 Mar 04 11:10
ssak - Very interesting information on Rival. Just out of curiosity does it tell you in the instruction manual to "knock two hours off of the cooking time?" I find this info somewhat alarming. Regarding other brands of slow cookers,I know a family that regularly uses a West Bend Slow Cooker and another friend who uses Faberware. In addition to my Rival crock pots, I also use a generic slow cooker that Kitty found at a local discount store for $15. It is pretty and white and works great. Good Luck. slf - Recipe ideas come from so many directions. When we sign on a write a book, we spend a lot of time brainstorming and them we go from there. Many of our initial ideas change as we move forward. It is a very fluid process. Kitty and I connect weekly to review what we've been working on for the past week. We also might find a new ingredient, like cubanelle peppers(aka Italian peppers) which are really delicious, different and low carb. We might taste something at a restaurant and try to duplicate it. Friends and family give us many great ideas. Sometimes classic dishes are updated or varied. I also look at trends. Hispanic foods and ingredients are growing in popularity, so I try to figure out how to incorporate this into my recipe development. Sofrito is a Hispanic seasoning sauce that I had heard of but never used. I found some while working on the slow cooker book and discovered it to be a useful, flavorful ingredient. Writing a cookbook is a detailed process that involves a lot of organization, trial and error and documentation.
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permalink #118 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Tue 23 Mar 04 11:10
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permalink #119 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Tue 23 Mar 04 11:11
permalink #119 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Tue 23 Mar 04 11:11
duplicate post - Sorry!
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permalink #120 of 181: Steven Geoffrey Sak (ssak) Tue 23 Mar 04 11:44
permalink #120 of 181: Steven Geoffrey Sak (ssak) Tue 23 Mar 04 11:44
No it doesn't indicate that in the manual that came with the unit (model 5860) although some other manuals online have been changed to read 8 hours cooking time. The customer support rep from rival passed this on to me. In any case 10 hours works better with my schedule during the workweek. Is there and substantive difference in how the dishes themselves turn out with the faster (and presumably hotter) cooking? P.S. The cookbook is sold out on Amazon currently. Congrats.
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permalink #121 of 181: Kitty Broihier (kittybroihier) Tue 23 Mar 04 13:05
permalink #121 of 181: Kitty Broihier (kittybroihier) Tue 23 Mar 04 13:05
Hotter cooking temps won't necessarily change the quality of the food, as long as the time is decreased. For example, in the front of our book we say that we chose to use longer cook times on lower setting because we thought those cook times would be more convenient (as you say), however we also say that most things can be turned to a higher setting and just cooked faster and will still come out fine. Soups, stews, roasts and other meats should all turn out ok at higher temp/shorter times. What do you think, Kim?
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permalink #122 of 181: Dave (dsp2) Tue 23 Mar 04 14:20
permalink #122 of 181: Dave (dsp2) Tue 23 Mar 04 14:20
Very interesting about the new heating elements on the Rivals. The one I just bought is the 38551-W (5.5 Qt Stoneware Oval Smart Pot). I'm planning to be home for its maiden voyage on Sunday reacquainting myself with my couch and TV after a long past few weeks. I'll just have to make sure I keep an eye on the ribs. And tell Amazon to get more of your books!
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permalink #123 of 181: Anne Boyd (nitpicker) Tue 23 Mar 04 15:20
permalink #123 of 181: Anne Boyd (nitpicker) Tue 23 Mar 04 15:20
>>they have changed the heating element and for some reason you now need to knock 2 hours off the recipies. Aiee! Sure would have been nice to have that mentioned in the documentation. It's a particularly annoying problem because I got the one with the pre-set cooking times, and now that feature won't be as useful. Come to think of it, it's really not all that useful because recipe times aren't ALL 4 or 6 hours on High, 8 or 10 hours on Low. But the *truly* programmable pots, of course, are more expensive. Still on the fence about whether to return my Smart Pot. I haven't tried to contact Rival myself yet; wonder if I'll get the same answer?
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permalink #124 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Tue 23 Mar 04 18:07
permalink #124 of 181: Kimberly A. Mayone (kimmayone) Tue 23 Mar 04 18:07
Most slow cooker recipes are quite forgiving regarding time and temp. The only recipes that might suffer from higher temps for too long are the egg, nut and seafood dishes. Amazon does appear to be out of stock on our books. This happened early last week and they should be back in stock tomorrow. Thanks for the compliments and the heads up.
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permalink #125 of 181: Dave (dsp2) Tue 23 Mar 04 18:24
permalink #125 of 181: Dave (dsp2) Tue 23 Mar 04 18:24
What are the approximate temps for high and low settings on a slow cooker? Also, I wonder how far the new heating element Rivals differ from these more standard (?) temps. This sounds like discussion one hears when talking BBQ, where conventional low and slow wisdom usually suggests low 200* temps (maybe 225ish) for long periods of time. I've heard lots of pros say that, if it is hard to maintain that low of a temp on your cooker without the fire going out, or if you simply want to speed things up a bit, that it is fine to go up to 250-275* for a bit shorter. I guess the idea is to take the meat slowly up towards the desired target internal temp allowing for fat to render and connective tissues and such to break down and get the meat nice and tender. As long as it's not too fast, many say that there is not too big of an appreciable difference in the end products. I guess that is the same idea between the high/low settings for slow cookers (or between the higher than low and higher than high settings on the new heating element Rivals). Sorry if I'm butchering this a little or if I'm playing Captain Obvious here (a role unfortunately too often forced upon me due to my very superficial degree of understanding of many topics!). All of this discussion has been very interesting and helpful for me.
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