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permalink #101 of 115: Uncle Jax (jax) Sun 5 Jun 05 12:42
permalink #101 of 115: Uncle Jax (jax) Sun 5 Jun 05 12:42
You just want to be on the side that's winning! :-)
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permalink #102 of 115: Oliver Trager (oliver-trager) Mon 6 Jun 05 16:14
permalink #102 of 115: Oliver Trager (oliver-trager) Mon 6 Jun 05 16:14
I like what Bob did with Friend of the Devil. Kept its country roots with the added Johnson twist -- the aura of which it already had anyway. Dylan has done several Dead tunes. Alabama Getaway came off pretty well and West L.A. Fadeaway cool for its novelty. Not one that you would expect. Always thought a Dylan Black Peter would be a perfect fit.
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permalink #103 of 115: David Gans (tnf) Mon 6 Jun 05 17:13
permalink #103 of 115: David Gans (tnf) Mon 6 Jun 05 17:13
Our next interview has taken "center stage," but that's no reason for this excellent conversation to end. I have really enjoyed this one, and I hope everyone will continue.
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permalink #104 of 115: Howard Levine (hll) Mon 6 Jun 05 18:07
permalink #104 of 115: Howard Levine (hll) Mon 6 Jun 05 18:07
certainly Black Peter has that Dylan gravelly tone to it. I'd like to hear him give it a try.
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permalink #105 of 115: Life Is Easy When Considered From Another Point Of View (dam) Tue 7 Jun 05 12:18
permalink #105 of 115: Life Is Easy When Considered From Another Point Of View (dam) Tue 7 Jun 05 12:18
never gonna happen, I hope! %)
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permalink #106 of 115: Jules Nguyen Dracula (xian) Tue 7 Jun 05 14:28
permalink #106 of 115: Jules Nguyen Dracula (xian) Tue 7 Jun 05 14:28
catching up on this great conversation, rather late. let me just say that I've always found Desolation Row to be almost unbearably witty. Yes, I received your letter About the time the doorknob broke You asked how I was doing Was that some kind of joke? I read about three different ways, all funny, all anguished. see also... <http://xianlandia.com/te-amo/2002/04/08/about_the_time_the_doorknob_broke.html >
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permalink #107 of 115: Christian Crumlish (xian) Tue 7 Jun 05 14:34
permalink #107 of 115: Christian Crumlish (xian) Tue 7 Jun 05 14:34
Dylan's 11/1/92 show in Wilkes-Barre seems tailor-made for his Deadhead fans. Viz the first 50+ minutes of setlist: West L.A. Fadeaway Peggy-O All Along the Watchtower Positively 4th Street Tangled Up in Blue She Belongs to Me Silvio
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permalink #108 of 115: David Gans (tnf) Tue 7 Jun 05 16:35
permalink #108 of 115: David Gans (tnf) Tue 7 Jun 05 16:35
I liked that post referenced in <106>, xian. Guess you had a bad day that dsay!
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permalink #109 of 115: Oliver Trager (oliver-trager) Sat 11 Jun 05 04:23
permalink #109 of 115: Oliver Trager (oliver-trager) Sat 11 Jun 05 04:23
Thanks for a great couple of weeks. Lets'c continue as things go. I'll check in every few days. In reviewing the posts, I'd like to send a shout out to my copy editor at WG. She, who wishes to remain semi-anonymous, really hunkered down with me last summer and helped pull every aspect of the book together down the home stretch. Really couldn't have done it without expertise and patience. No one has mentioned the graphics in "Keys." I think they are pretty idiosyncratic. Any thoughts?
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permalink #110 of 115: It's a new sun to me (nukem777) Sat 11 Jun 05 05:23
permalink #110 of 115: It's a new sun to me (nukem777) Sat 11 Jun 05 05:23
You probably already talked about this...but if not...have you discussed at all the impact all of Dylan's liner notes had on all of us, first coming up? It was amazing...I lived for those notes, more than the songs, at first...it was like a free ticket to the "Beats" or something, poetry on the walls of a great coffee house... He was the first person I was aware of to include poetry and art along with his music...I really haven't seen anyone do that since until Eddie Vedder and Peart Jam and a few others who were such rounded artists that the music was only a part of their 'art'... Would you talk a bit about Dylan's liner notes, poetry, style and impact as it paralleled his music?
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permalink #111 of 115: Life Is Easy When Considered From Another Point Of View (dam) Sat 11 Jun 05 09:29
permalink #111 of 115: Life Is Easy When Considered From Another Point Of View (dam) Sat 11 Jun 05 09:29
thanks for the book and being here!
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permalink #112 of 115: Oliver Trager (oliver-trager) Sat 11 Jun 05 10:30
permalink #112 of 115: Oliver Trager (oliver-trager) Sat 11 Jun 05 10:30
Ya know, I probably didn't give the liner notes enough ink. There is some casual discussion of their style but little of their content. Certainly "11 Outlined Epitaphs" or "Some Other Kinds of Songs..." deserved its own, elonagted entry but it was almost like that was a separate book. And yes, those notes from the mid-'60s albums were like some kind of missing link or stepping stones between the beat and hippie movements. "Tarantula" can be seen as Dylan taking the liner note aesthetic into a longer form. And then, starting with "Blonde On Blonde," he pretty much abandoned that word canvas only to resusicate it with "World Gone Wrong." Again, "Chronicles" can be read as a long form version of less arty, yet "Another" side of Bob Dylan.
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permalink #113 of 115: Howard Levine (hll) Sun 12 Jun 05 18:21
permalink #113 of 115: Howard Levine (hll) Sun 12 Jun 05 18:21
thanks Oliver - its been a pleasure hearing from you!
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permalink #114 of 115: David Gans (tnf) Sun 12 Jun 05 18:52
permalink #114 of 115: David Gans (tnf) Sun 12 Jun 05 18:52
And thank you, Howie!
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permalink #115 of 115: It's a new sun to me (nukem777) Sun 12 Jun 05 19:10
permalink #115 of 115: It's a new sun to me (nukem777) Sun 12 Jun 05 19:10
Oliver, got a chance to read your book today at B&N. Fantastic, it is the mortar that joins all the others about the Web/Internet... You may be pleased to know Barnes and Noble is giving you prominent display...on the first table walking into the stores on the Father's Day table....Father's Day is the 2nd biggest book season of the year. You deserve it, hope you make a bundle.
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