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permalink #101 of 110: Hal Royaltey (hal) Wed 29 Jun 05 19:09
permalink #101 of 110: Hal Royaltey (hal) Wed 29 Jun 05 19:09
> For example, IE has a File/Send Page as Email > function that has no obvious corollary in Firefox. Netscape/Mozilla has the same "Email this page" feature. Though no Firefox expert, let me venture a guess. Firefox has no email component. Netscape, Mozilla, and IE do. Without a built-in email engine, Firefox can't send a page on its own. At least in a Windows context it ought to be able to dig up the email agent from the Internet Options but perhaps they chose not to implement Windows-only features. I've tried Firefox a bit, and it's lightning quick, that's fer sure, but I was a bit put off by the simplistic configuration capabilities. My usual browser/email suite is Mozilla, which I can configure to within an inch of its life to suit my own peculair preferences. However, I've found the simple straightforward configuration to be advantageous when setting it up for (e.g.) elderly relatives or non-geekish friends.
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permalink #102 of 110: J Matisse Enzer (matisse) Wed 29 Jun 05 19:39
permalink #102 of 110: J Matisse Enzer (matisse) Wed 29 Jun 05 19:39
Firefox will indeed launch your mail program when you choose File->Send Link...
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permalink #103 of 110: Public persona (jmcarlin) Wed 29 Jun 05 21:48
permalink #103 of 110: Public persona (jmcarlin) Wed 29 Jun 05 21:48
> I was a bit put off by the simplistic configuration capabilities. try typing about:config in the browser window to see everything you can tweak.
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permalink #104 of 110: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Fri 1 Jul 05 12:26
permalink #104 of 110: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Fri 1 Jul 05 12:26
I want to thank Scott Granneman for joining us here in Inkwell, and I also want to thank Loren for all you've done to help guide this conversation. It's been two weeks since the discussion began, and we've just turned our virtual spotlight onto our next author. That doesn't mean you have to stop talking here, though. The topic will remain avialable for further comments indefinitely, so feel free to continue if you wish. Thanks, and best of luck with your book, Scott!
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permalink #105 of 110: Scott Granneman (scottgranneman) Fri 1 Jul 05 15:29
permalink #105 of 110: Scott Granneman (scottgranneman) Fri 1 Jul 05 15:29
Richard Banks: You said that "IE has a File/Send Page as Email"; as other pointed out, Ff has that too. File > Send Link. I use it all the time. I'm almost positive that Ff uses whatever your default email program is on your OS to send the mail. If you use web-based email, like I do, I recommend the WebMailCompose extension, available from http://jedbrown.net/1.0/mozilla/extensions/, which allows you to use virtually any web-based email service around, as well as client-based email. I use it for Gmail, & it works beautifully. As for your problems with Salon's AudioFile & iTunes, I can't help you. I'm a Salon subscriber, but I don't get the audio, and I don't use iTunes. Ff *is* alerting you about new updates. However, it's not as obvious as I'd like, a major problem, in my opinion. In the upper right of your Ff windows, you may notice what looks like a Christmas tree surrounded by a colored circle. If you see that, you have updates to Ff available. That's pretty bad - a colored circle & a triangle? Of COURSE that must indicate updates available! Sheeesh ... that's one where Ff let us all down.
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permalink #106 of 110: Scott Granneman (scottgranneman) Fri 1 Jul 05 16:21
permalink #106 of 110: Scott Granneman (scottgranneman) Fri 1 Jul 05 16:21
Hal Royaltey: one of the goals of Ff was simplified configuration. In fact, the developers were reacting AGAINST Mozilla's plethora of choices. Now, that doesn't mean that you can't configure Ff until the cows come home; it just means that those options aren't exposed in the Options/Prefs. As Public persona recommended, try about:config, or, better yet, create & edit your user.js file, which is more permanent. I cover user.js & some other files in my book, but here are some excerpts from mine. #1 - user.js (settings & prefs for the browser & its behavior): // More DOM/JavaScript options // Make sure all pop-up windows are resizable: user_pref("dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable", true); // Make sure all pop-up windows are minimizable: user_pref("dom.disable_window_open_feature.minimizable", true); // Always display the menu in pop-up windows: user_pref("dom.disable_window_open_feature.menubar", true); // Always display the Navigation Toolbar in pop-up windows: user_pref("dom.disable_window_open_feature.location", true); // Force frames to be resizable user_pref("layout.frames.force_resizability", true); // Turn off pre-fetching user_pref("network.prefetch-next", false); #2 - chrome/userChrome.css (how the browser looks): /* ##### Improved Back button ##### */ /* Make the Back button bigger */ #back-button .toolbarbutton-icon { padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 8px; } /* Force the label to be visible, even in no text */ #back-button .toolbarbutton-text { display: -moz-box !important; padding-right: 4px; padding-bottom: 2px; } /* Put the label to the right of the button */ #back-button .toolbarbutton-menubutton-button { -moz-box-orient: horizontal !important; } #3 - chrome/userContent.css (the browser & the pages it displays) /* make textareas bigger */ /* textarea { width: 600px; height: 600px; } */ /* improve form widgets */ /* input[type="button"], input[type="submit"] { font-size: 12px !important; font-family: 'Lucida Grande' !important; background: #eee !important; -moz-border-radius: 18px !important; padding: 1px 6px !important; border: 1px solid #ccc !important; border-bottom: 2px solid #999 !important; } */ (Notice that I commented out both changives above; I was just experimenting). I cover some of these settings in my book; Firefox Hacks, by the late Nigel McFarlane, contains even more. Is that enough customizability for you? :)
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permalink #107 of 110: Scott Granneman (scottgranneman) Fri 1 Jul 05 16:29
permalink #107 of 110: Scott Granneman (scottgranneman) Fri 1 Jul 05 16:29
Cynthia, I'd like to thank you, Loren, and the folks at The WELL for a great two weeks! I've had a wonderful time talking to all of you you about Ff, the Web, and related topics. In particular, I can't express how impressed I've been with The WELL. After hearing so much about it over the years, I have to say that it has lived up to the hype. I'm almost finished with a second book for John Wiley & Sons titled Hacking Knoppix, about the wonderfully powerful and diverse Linux-based Live CD operating system Knoppix. I've already started working on my next book after Hacking Knoppix, but I'm not ready to divulge the subject yet (don't want to jinx myself!). If you'd like to keep up with my writings, please check out my Publications page, at http://www.granneman.com/pubs; you can also subscribe to my RSS feed that provides info about things I've written using http://www.granneman.com/xml/rss.xml. In addition, I blog for The Open Source Weblog, and one of the topics that comes up all the time (no surprise!) is Firefox. You can read the blog at http://opensource.weblogsinc.com, or subscribe to the RSS feed using http://opensource.weblogsinc.com/rss.xml. I'll keep checking this page out for the next week or so, as long as I can, do keep posting questions or comments if you'd like. Thanks again, everyone - it's been great! Keep using Firefox!
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permalink #108 of 110: Sharon Brogan (sbmontana) Fri 1 Jul 05 18:28
permalink #108 of 110: Sharon Brogan (sbmontana) Fri 1 Jul 05 18:28
Scott, since I've been unsuccessful installing Spellbound, one of my favorite extensions, on my new iBook, I'm wondering if you might know of any alternatives?
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permalink #109 of 110: Hal Royaltey (hal) Sat 2 Jul 05 01:59
permalink #109 of 110: Hal Royaltey (hal) Sat 2 Jul 05 01:59
Thanks for the expansive answer Scott. Mebbe I'll re-install Firefox and see about those options.
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permalink #110 of 110: Tom Howard (tom) Sun 3 Jul 05 05:15
permalink #110 of 110: Tom Howard (tom) Sun 3 Jul 05 05:15
Scott, I think the person was asking about Send Page, as in IE where the entire page will be put into an email, not just the link (if your Mail Format is defaulted to HTML the page will be in the body of the email; if the default is Plain Text the page will be an attachment).
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