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permalink #26 of 33: Joyce Richards (joyceincali) Mon 20 Mar 06 09:02
permalink #26 of 33: Joyce Richards (joyceincali) Mon 20 Mar 06 09:02
Stacey opened for Steve at the HOB in LA in 1999, I think. August 24. She got booed by the suits who were there to see Steve, but he came out and chastised them. Mark wasn't there. I'm not sure they were married yet.
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permalink #27 of 33: David McGee (davidmcgee) Mon 20 Mar 06 14:17
permalink #27 of 33: David McGee (davidmcgee) Mon 20 Mar 06 14:17
Thanks for that tidbit, Joyce. Stacey and Mark were together at that time, but why he wasn't performing with her is a mystery to me--I can only guess that he had a chance to make some money touring with someone else, because they have been a duo almost from the time they started playing together in the early '90s. It's nice to hear Steve came out and took the audience to task for the way it responded to Stacey, and I'm sure it made her feel better to hear him standing up for her.
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permalink #28 of 33: Holly Tedford (hollyt) Tue 21 Mar 06 10:56
permalink #28 of 33: Holly Tedford (hollyt) Tue 21 Mar 06 10:56
Steve hurt a lot of people while he was using, as addicts are wont to do. Do you know if he "made amends" in some way to any of them? Or apologized for some of his behavior? Did any of the people you interviewed mention him doing this? It seems that a lot of this behavior was typical of Steve in general however, and not just the drugs. What's your take on that? Thanks for the update on Stacey. I've never heard her music but it sounds like stuff I would like so I plan to check it out.
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permalink #29 of 33: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Wed 22 Mar 06 11:50
permalink #29 of 33: Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Wed 22 Mar 06 11:50
It's been two weeks since this conversation launched, and we've just begun a new interview here in Inkwell. That doesn't mean this discussion has to stop, of course. You're welcome to continue as long as you wish, David, the topic will remain open for further posts indefinitely. If you have to get moving, we understand. Thank you so much for joining us, and thank you, Holly, for leading the discussion.
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permalink #30 of 33: virtual community or butter? (bumbaugh) Wed 22 Mar 06 12:27
permalink #30 of 33: virtual community or butter? (bumbaugh) Wed 22 Mar 06 12:27
Thanks so much, Holly and David.
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permalink #31 of 33: David McGee (davidmcgee) Wed 22 Mar 06 14:01
permalink #31 of 33: David McGee (davidmcgee) Wed 22 Mar 06 14:01
Holly, part of the 12-step program that Steve rigorously adheres to is apologizing to those you have hurt along the way, and I assume he at least done that with family members, if not ex-wives or any other acquaintances who had the misfortune to cross his path during those years of madness. It's too easy and there's too much evidence to the contrary to attribute Steve's behavior soley to his drug abuse. He wasn't always in a deep, dark dungeon with drugs, but he always was a driven, self-obsessed musician who was determined to make his mark. I think what came with that was a "user" mentalit that had nothing to do with using drugs but rather with using people to get him to the next rung, and then discarding them when he felt secure enough to go on alone, as he did so many times in the early days, even with people such as Tony Brown, who basically rescued Steve from oblivion after the CBS labels wanted nothing more to do with him. I didn't even publish comments from a former business associate of Steve's who had nothing but disdain for Steve--loves him as an artist but despises the man for the way he's used people over the years, especially with regard to the business side of his career. There were things this source told me that would have taken the book in a direction it was not meant to go, but should be explored by anyone else who attempts a full-on biography of Steve. The interesting info I've been privy to recently is from a source close to the Earle family and to Steve, who claims Steve has finally read the other biography of him, "Hardcore Troubadour," and is sending out notes of apology to friends and associates of his who were interviewed for the book and had their comments twisted way out of context. I hope the first notes he sent out were to his family, because they were really hurt by that book's misrepresentation of their history. In my view it's a dishonest and factually inaccurate book--no source notes whatsoever, and I found the author was taking comments Steve made in liner notes, for instance, putting quotation marks around them and making them seem as if they were words Steve had said to her. Another source interviewed for that book told me he granted the author an interview based on the false pretense that she was writing a piece about his own new album--"I was seething," this artist told me, "but I answered her questions up to a point." So if Steve is indeed apologizing to people for what happened in "Hardcore Troubadour," I'd say he's doing the right thing. To Cynthia, Bruce and Holly: I can stay here for the duration of this week, then I'll be away for a week or so and without internet access for a good part of that time, or only sporadic internet access at best. So we can keep this going through Friday, if there's any interest. That said, I appreciate this opportunity to talk about a book to which I gave a lot of time and effort to, and I hope I get an opportunit to return to this forum come the next book. Sincere thanks all around. I've really enjoyed this and the B.B. King forum tremendously. --David
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permalink #32 of 33: a nose full of kafka (plum) Thu 23 Mar 06 20:19
permalink #32 of 33: a nose full of kafka (plum) Thu 23 Mar 06 20:19
most enlightening. I've seen Stacey perform, she's a talented smart charming woman. Occasionally there's a little tinge of Nancy Griffith, but just vaguely. Holly I'll try to dig out a CD I have for you. Toby Keith and Steve Earle seem to me to inhabit different universes (now that's an awkward word) and do not at all seem to me to be two sides of any coin. It's like saying Neil Young is the other side of Donald Rumsfeld or something. Did anyone see the Townes van Zandt movie? Steve is in there a lot, and seems really sweet! I can't really recommend the film, since a large portion of it featured the camera pointing towards the sky and twirling around.
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permalink #33 of 33: Ozro W. Childs (oz) Fri 18 Aug 06 23:53
permalink #33 of 33: Ozro W. Childs (oz) Fri 18 Aug 06 23:53
Coming in a little late here, but one of my favorite local bands sang "Jerusalem" tonight, and it occurred to me, it belongs in a hymnal. The message is very appropriate today, but I think it always will be.
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