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permalink #101 of 152: For Rosetti, wombats held a peculiar fascination (loris) Mon 21 Jun 10 10:54
permalink #101 of 152: For Rosetti, wombats held a peculiar fascination (loris) Mon 21 Jun 10 10:54
i seem to notice rancidity in nuts far more than other folks do --- i am often astonished by people chowing down on same (as an ingredient in something else) where the nuts are so clearly rancid.
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permalink #102 of 152: Darya Pino (daryapino) Mon 21 Jun 10 15:02
permalink #102 of 152: Darya Pino (daryapino) Mon 21 Jun 10 15:02
Yes, it is the healthy oils that are the most unstable. I always buy very fresh, hand-cracked walnuts in small quantities from my farmers market. They're amazing, but I still prefer them toasted. But I agree with debunix, they are not my favorite nuts. I think pistachios and hazelnuts are my faves. I also like almonds, but get sick of them quickly. @loris You are lucky that you can tell when foods are rancid! I've seen the same thing, people scarfing down overly salted rancid/stale nuts and I just look on in amazement.
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permalink #103 of 152: descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Mon 21 Jun 10 16:54
permalink #103 of 152: descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Mon 21 Jun 10 16:54
I just watched the video and immediately passed it on (via facebook). > Do any of you have > more questions for him? Would this interest you? I'm definitely interested in hearing more from him including any updates he has since the video was made but I don't have any specific questions.
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permalink #104 of 152: paralyzed by a question like that (debunix) Mon 21 Jun 10 20:04
permalink #104 of 152: paralyzed by a question like that (debunix) Mon 21 Jun 10 20:04
Finally watched video for the first time today, with lunch and my evening snack, and it was fascinating. I like that he puts HFCS and sucrose properly in the same camp--each supplying about 50% fructose, and demonizes not the HFCS as the sole problem, but the policies and practices of adding sugar to everything to make processed crap taste like real food, while stripping out the fiber that helps lessen the impact of the fructose present in whole foods. I want to know more of the fiber backstory--he says at one point that fiber is an essential nutrient, but the UCDA won't admit it because it would make our food harder to sell [abroad?]. Loved also the "you have two choices: fart or fat."
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permalink #105 of 152: David Gans (tnf) Mon 21 Jun 10 22:37
permalink #105 of 152: David Gans (tnf) Mon 21 Jun 10 22:37
> Dr. Lustig is here at UCSF and he's a great scientist. I've actually been > considering contacting him for an interview. Do any of you have more ques- > tions for him? Would this interest you? How'd you like to interview Dr Lustig right here in the Inkwell?
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permalink #106 of 152: We're carrot people. (unkljohn) Tue 22 Jun 10 05:53
permalink #106 of 152: We're carrot people. (unkljohn) Tue 22 Jun 10 05:53
I started watching the video but don't have time to finish it, so I'll ask what might already be answered in it......me and Beth switched to organic, un-refined sugar a few years ago. Is that helping at all, or is it still just as bad as regular sugar? I use it only in my coffee and use no other sugar. Also....suppliments. Vitamin D3 was mentioned way, way up there somewhere and we've been doing that a good while. What about fish oil caps and CoQ10? Worth anything or just a waste of money? Thanks!
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permalink #107 of 152: paralyzed by a question like that (debunix) Tue 22 Jun 10 08:05
permalink #107 of 152: paralyzed by a question like that (debunix) Tue 22 Jun 10 08:05
The organic, unrefined sugar is still sugar, and just as bad for you, but if it is organically produced, is a little gentler on the earth.
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permalink #108 of 152: Evan Hodgens (evan) Tue 22 Jun 10 08:47
permalink #108 of 152: Evan Hodgens (evan) Tue 22 Jun 10 08:47
Really, sugar is sugar, period.
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permalink #109 of 152: Darya Pino (daryapino) Tue 22 Jun 10 09:22
permalink #109 of 152: Darya Pino (daryapino) Tue 22 Jun 10 09:22
I agree with everyone about sugar. Organic is simply better for the environment. But if you are only using it in your coffee you have nothing to worry about. Really it is the ungodly amount of sugar in processed foods that is the real problem. For a bit of perspective on the subject, check out this article (the most popular on my site ever). Notice that the LEAST sugary food is the Krispy Kreme doughnut. Some people mistakenly took this to mean doughnuts aren't that bad, but the message I'm trying to convey is that we KNOW doughnuts are bad, but did you know yogurt and salad can be bad?? http://summertomato.com/shocking-sugar-content-of-common-food-products/
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permalink #110 of 152: Darya Pino (daryapino) Tue 22 Jun 10 10:05
permalink #110 of 152: Darya Pino (daryapino) Tue 22 Jun 10 10:05
I will think more about the possibility of a Lustig video. At any rate I'm too busy to get to it for at least a few weeks. I'm interested in the fiber question as well...
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permalink #111 of 152: . (wickett) Tue 22 Jun 10 11:24
permalink #111 of 152: . (wickett) Tue 22 Jun 10 11:24
I'd *love* a Lustig video and interview on Inkwell! Dr. Lustig mentioned fats in his lecture on fructose, but too briefly. I'd very much appreciate a more comprehensive discussion--with biochemistry. A very healthy friend--who exercises vigorously, is active, thin, and eats well--has very high total cholestrol, wonderfully high HDL, low triglycerides, and long-lived thin parents, yet her physician wants to put her on Lipitor. My reaction was, basically, to ignore the total cholesterol and pay attention to all the positives. That reflects my current understanding of the issue, but I'd like to be more informed and grounded in the science of fat metabolism.
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permalink #112 of 152: descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Tue 22 Jun 10 11:39
permalink #112 of 152: descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Tue 22 Jun 10 11:39
> I'm trying to convey is that > we KNOW doughnuts are bad, but did you know yogurt and salad can be > bad?? I knew that as a principle but your web page brings it strongly home. The key thing for me is to choose when I eat sugar. A wondeful, "sinful" rich dessert once in a while is OK. Prepared food with piles of sugar is not. I'm not there yet, but much more than in the past I'm following Pollan's principle "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." The "not too much" is hard for me. Mostly plans turned out to be easier. It's too hard to avoid high fructose corn syrup. Avoiding packaged foods is easier and the limited amount we buy is screened for corn syrup.
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permalink #113 of 152: paralyzed by a question like that (debunix) Tue 22 Jun 10 11:41
permalink #113 of 152: paralyzed by a question like that (debunix) Tue 22 Jun 10 11:41
Making a lot of my own food does allow me to ensure that most of my sugar comes in the form of food with something extra--fruit with fiber, baked goods with less sugar than commercial products and at full whole grain fiber. It is disturbing to see how much similar products are full of sugar, over and above what I use for sweetening. Another fiber question: he points out that carbs should be eaten with fiber. For example, fruits naturally provide usually adequate fiber with their sugars. But for those of us who have certain beloved foods that are low fiber, how integral to the food does the fiber need to be to be of benefit? E.g., would chowing down on a spoonful of psyllium seeds or half a carrot before eating some chocolate be beneficial enough to be worth the gastronomical awkwardness ?
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permalink #114 of 152: . (wickett) Tue 22 Jun 10 12:12
permalink #114 of 152: . (wickett) Tue 22 Jun 10 12:12
Heh! Take your flax, dear, before your chocolate! "Shocking" is clear; some of the responses, alas, are confused. Luckily, I make my own yoghurt, bread, salad dressing, condiments, jams, and desserts. No sugar in my catsup, mustard, or relishes. Even canning a lot, I don't go through ten pounds of sugar a year for two. The preserves are quite healthy for sweets, as they are cooked-down long (and therefore are various shades of brown) with skins and pulp and, in the case of marmalades, with zest, as well (organic, of course). Even the idea of sugar in salad repels me, what with all the sweetness in lettuce and tomatoes and carrots and cukes.
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permalink #115 of 152: Gail Williams (gail) Tue 22 Jun 10 12:26
permalink #115 of 152: Gail Williams (gail) Tue 22 Jun 10 12:26
One of my questions about the video is to have some follow-up to his quick analogy to the effects of alcohol -- which is evidently a sugar-like compound. If you are planning to drink -- say going to a wedding or a wine tour or beer tasting event -- is it helpful to take extra fiber while drinking? Does cutting sugars at that time help mitigate the assault, say enjoy the fine wines and eschew the wedding cake, for example?
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permalink #116 of 152: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Tue 22 Jun 10 15:33
permalink #116 of 152: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Tue 22 Jun 10 15:33
<A very healthy friend--who exercises vigorously, is active, thin, and eats well--has very high total cholestrol, wonderfully high HDL, low triglycerides, and long-lived thin parents, yet her physician wants to put her on Lipitor.> A really bad idea in my opinion. Lipitor has horrible side effects, especially for women. I think cholesterol as a problem is highly over emphasized. A friend took Lipitor and ended up on 15 other medications to counteract the side effects of Lipitor. She had problems with her memory and intellectual capabilities. There is actually a class-action suit against the makers of Lipitor because of the horrible effects it has, especially with women. Another friend of mine did not want to take Lipitor and his doctor suggested he take Niacin because it has a similar effect on lowering cholesterol without the bad side effects. Just my opinion, of course.
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permalink #117 of 152: David Gans (tnf) Tue 22 Jun 10 16:03
permalink #117 of 152: David Gans (tnf) Tue 22 Jun 10 16:03
What are these horrible side effects? I take 80 mg Lipitor daily and I am doing fine.
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permalink #118 of 152: those Andropovian bongs (rik) Tue 22 Jun 10 16:07
permalink #118 of 152: those Andropovian bongs (rik) Tue 22 Jun 10 16:07
You're comparatively young and healthy, and you excercise. I'll be that most of the complaints are from people who aren't, who don't, and who have other problems as well.
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permalink #119 of 152: descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Tue 22 Jun 10 16:28
permalink #119 of 152: descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Tue 22 Jun 10 16:28
> A really bad idea in my opinion. We're living in a Jefferson Airplane "White Rabbit" prescription drug culture. But I won't take drugs unless there appears to be a good medical reason for them. Having a good reason is one thing, taking them just in case is quite something else. For me, an EBCT (coronary calcium) score over 500 (a flashing red light score) plus somewhat high BP was enough for me to agree to take both a statin and a BP drug. I've finally decided that the BP drug has given me insomnia (by process of elimination) and have some muscle foo from the statin so I'm now on another BP drug and taking a very much lower statin dose.
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permalink #120 of 152: Lena M. Diethelm (lendie) Tue 22 Jun 10 17:14
permalink #120 of 152: Lena M. Diethelm (lendie) Tue 22 Jun 10 17:14
That muscle foo can become lifethreatening. My elderly friend, Alice, ended up in the hospital because of it. She didn't realize she was having side effects, just thought it was all because she was old. then one day she couldn't walk. Ended up in the hospital. It's not clear if it was the statin or the Abilify or both. But now she's off of both of those, having a terrible time. She's on her second set of meds to replace the first two.
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permalink #121 of 152: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 22 Jun 10 18:27
permalink #121 of 152: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 22 Jun 10 18:27
> Lipitor has horrible side effects, > especially for women. Julie, could you please say more about this? I took 20mg of Lipitor for years until a couple of months ago when I switched to simvastatin as a cost-saving measure. I'm not aware of side effects, but it may be that I didn't ascribe them to Lipitor.
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permalink #122 of 152: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Tue 22 Jun 10 18:46
permalink #122 of 152: Julie Sherman (julieswn) Tue 22 Jun 10 18:46
Here are three links to articles about Lipitor and memory loss. Apparenly the kind of memory loss was different in women than in men. For men it was short-term memory loss but for women the effect was all over memory loss and cognitive ability. The third link is to an aritcle in the Wall Street Journal. <http://myheartsisters.org/2009/10/09/statin-side-effect/> <http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/97524.php> <http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB120277403869360595.html>
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permalink #123 of 152: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 22 Jun 10 19:47
permalink #123 of 152: Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 22 Jun 10 19:47
I have been complaining to my shrink about memory loss and aphasia for years now. Thanks for that, Julie.
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permalink #124 of 152: For Rosetti, wombats held a peculiar fascination (loris) Tue 22 Jun 10 22:03
permalink #124 of 152: For Rosetti, wombats held a peculiar fascination (loris) Tue 22 Jun 10 22:03
darya, what do you think about gary taubes' work?
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permalink #125 of 152: David Gans (tnf) Wed 23 Jun 10 09:14
permalink #125 of 152: David Gans (tnf) Wed 23 Jun 10 09:14
The two-week "official" run of this interview is over, but I would love to see the conversation continue. Will you stick around for while, Darya?
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